Rockstar's silence is deafening

[IVCavalcade]

We really need a statement of intent from R* or GSG this week. Like really, they've had the weekend to 'celebrate' the launch, the public reaction is very clear - fans are unhappy, critics are unhappy - 5/10 from IGN is not acceptable for Rockstar. Their sales would have been cut in half (at least) if reviews came out before the product. It feels very calculated that they didn't send advanced copies to even the most reputable reviewers. Almost like they knew it wouldn't be favourably received. lol.

 

That GSG guy said he's enjoying the unparalleled levels of scrutiny on his studio or whatever the f*ck he said, well it's time they showed up and responded to it, because what fans enjoy is a good game. When we have to take to Twitter to scrutinise the studio, sorry bro, you f*cked up. Even just an acknowledgement of the issues and a message to state the scale of the fixes they plan would be a good start. It's a mess, but redemption is possible.

 

I'm aware there are probably frantic discussions going on about how to solve this crisis, but they need to act fast because the longer they stay silent, the more it looks like they opted for the cheap cash grab and have no plans for the game. These reviews are gonna hurt their Christmas sales, not to mention their reputation, so it's in their interests to improve it.

 

It's gonna cost them a lot of time and money to properly fix this, and part of me worries they will just release a mediocre patch that fixes game breaking bugs but leaves the core experience underwhelming and overpriced.

 

Pls R*, don't totally vanquish my faith in your company.

[Badman_]

I believe they knew how potentially bad the remaster was and were expecting for a low-key release with little fuss. Not sure if they're going to say anything in the near future (perhaps for the best). CDPR tried to "apologize" after Cyberpunk's release and it was awkward as hell. Maybe it's better for them to keep the silence (for now at least).

Edited November 17, 2021 by Wolfman_
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[Rm93]

Rockstar was already coming from a silence, lack of attention with RDO and a terrible trailer and delay for Expanded and enhanced until the Trilogy's announcement came, despite the enthusiasm, the release opened up for more problems.

There were 2 wrong shots, the third could and could be the launch of GTA V next gen .. and then we will have the complete vision.

Games launched hurriedly to cap neat, which served to open up the hole.

Besides the lost money and dislikes, I think the company's image is not possible to buy again, only with the announcement of the VI and quickly.

 

[universetwisters]

Big doubt they'd acknowledge it. For example, Eutechnyx/Deep Silver never said anything about the disaster of Ride to Hell: Retribution

[Orion3003]

From a corporate standpoint, for them its better to stay silent. I think the best course of action for R*, if they really do care about their reputation and their future is to do what Hello games did. Just shut up, grind, fix the mess that you caused in the first place and make something you can truly call a definitive edition. Perhaps this is asking too much but hey, we can all at least hope for it.

[SageFan]

I don't understand why people think Rockstar even care about their reputation. GTA IV's PC port was practically unplayable, Red Dead Redemption didn't even get a PC port, and we had to wait two years for a PC release of GTA V. They've done nothing for the past 8 years but live off microtransactions for a full priced game, and with every update the GTAO economy gets more grindy and forceful. They abandoned Red Dead Online, have treated their modding community like criminals and are now trying to dissuade people from refunding their faulty product with promises of updates and fixes, AFTER they took their launcher offline to remove the source code that THEY leaked in the game files. A faulty product might I add, that was marketed solely on a 50 second trailer consisting of nothing more than cutscenes, and handpicked screenshots and GIFs. Rockstar have probably violated several consumer rights regulations in the past week. And they could've prevented all of this before it actually happened by working on the remaster in-house, rather than giving it to a third party they know had failed them in the past with the San Andreas HD port. Doesn't seem like a company who cares much about their reputation, don't you think?

[Moth]

5 hours ago, universetwisters said:

Eutechnyx

They are pretty much dead at this point, they haven't released a game since 2015.

 

6 hours ago, Chazza354 said:

Pls R*, don't totally vanquish my faith in your company

It's really f*cking silly to have faith in a company nowadays, since they don't give a sh*t about you. if they need positive press coverage they'll do some BLM promoting or add a trans character, and the games media will just lap it up. Just look at Naughty Dog, for months people were hearing about how terrible it was to work for them, but since they had a trans, lesbian, a manly woman in TLOU2, they got massive praise from the gaming media. Won a game of the year award even. Even though it's a slightly expanded TLOU with a worse story and unlikeable, dumb and unsympathetic characters. 

 

So yeah, don't hold your f*cking breathe. Hell read the USA Today article they gave, where they tried to say everything graphically in the "remasters" was part of the plan. Rockstar and Take2, don't give a f*cking sh*t about you. 

Edited November 18, 2021 by Moth

[universetwisters]

16 minutes ago, Moth said:

They are pretty much dead at this point, they haven't released a game since 2015.

 

I mean ride to hell came out in like 2013 but aite

[Moth]

1 minute ago, universetwisters said:

 

I mean ride to hell came out in like 2013 but aite

I know, but you might as well say that Ride to Hell and that final Nascar game killed them. 

[universetwisters]

6 minutes ago, Moth said:

I know, but you might as well say that Ride to Hell and that final Nascar game killed them. 

 

Yea but even if those were the games that killed them, they never released any statements about the game being sh*tty post release

[REVENGE777]

52 minutes ago, universetwisters said:

 

Yea but even if those were the games that killed them, they never released any statements about the game being sh*tty post release

And they died. Nuff said.

[BadaBing_1996]

 

The backlash is HUGE. I can't tell who's getting the bigger (albeit well deserved) scrutiny right now, Rockstar Games or Travis Scott.

[universetwisters]

25 minutes ago, BadaBing_1996 said:

 

The backlash is HUGE. I can't tell who's getting the bigger (albeit well deserved) scrutiny right now, Rockstar Games or Travis Scott.

 

Prob Travis Scott cuz people are actually dead

[Lock n' Stock]

It's a sorry situation for sure, the fan backlash is probably worse than it's ever been. They simply don't give a f*ck though, they'll just carry on with their GTA and RDR Online newswire posts as if nothing happened, until they eventually squeeze out their next turd (E&E). 

 

As far as Eutechnyx are concerned, I'd honestly be surprised if those guys were still around. There's no recovering after you've developed a gigantic piece of sh*t like Ride to Hell, though I'd say Deep Silver was just as much to blame.

[Moth]

2 hours ago, universetwisters said:

Prob Travis Scott cuz people are actually dead

Didn't he also have a new shoe that came out the very next day? Yeah, he's a f*cking scumbag. 

[D9fred95]

6 hours ago, Orion3003 said:

From a corporate standpoint, for them its better to stay silent. I think the best course of action for R*, if they really do care about their reputation and their future is to do what Hello games did. Just shut up, grind, fix the mess that you caused in the first place and make something you can truly call a definitive edition. Perhaps this is asking too much but hey, we can all at least hope for it.

It seems like every game company wants to do what Hello Games did, simply be quiet and make the game the best you can be, but very few actually succeed in doing so. They also fail to realize that Hello Games was an indie studio put into AAA shoes by Sony, so they had some breathing room to work with when it came time to be quiet and work. Companies like Rockstar or CDPR are already massively well known and popular so staying quiet is alot harder to do for them which is why I wonder why they attempt it at all. 

[universetwisters]

1 hour ago, Moth said:

Didn't he also have a new shoe that came out the very next day? Yeah, he's a f*cking scumbag. 

If you have a McDonald’s meal named after you you’re prob a scumbag

[Moth]

9 minutes ago, universetwisters said:

If you have a McDonald’s meal named after you you’re prob a scumbag

Don't let the K-Pop stans hear you say that, or you are going to find a knife in your back by a BTS fan. 

[PsyWarVeteran]

13 hours ago, Chazza354 said:

Pls R*, don't totally vanquish my faith in your company.

 

You still have faith after all this?

[Americana]

[StarJet905]

18 minutes ago, Americana said:

Replace GSG with R* and maybe we can get somewhere 

Anyway, they'll never say anything. This kind of thing is irrelevant to them as long as GTA Online makes money. And make money it will.

[Piro]

R*, GSG and T2:

[Ivan1997GTA]

I think this whole backlash against the Definitive Edition is starting to turn into another scandal, something like GTAGate, or Gate Theft Auto.

 

Remember when DRIV3R was hyped up back in 2004 and launched to negative reviews because it was buggy and unfinished, to the point where it spawned its own scandal, known as Driv3rgate?

 

 

That is very similar to what the Definitive Edition of the GTA trilogy is going through at the moment. Though, I think the saddest part is that DRIV3R looks way more finished and stable than the so-called "Definitive" Edition of the GTA trilogy that it competed against back in the day.

Edited November 18, 2021 by Ivan1997GTA

[Americana]

Damn, this game had such good graphics, too.

[Journey_95]

Rockstar won't say sh*t. They will just act like this sh*tty remaster never happened and hope people forget about it. 

There won't be any substantial patches and also no apologies.  I suppose Grove Street Games won't do any remaster in the future, that's about it

[Jezus Holy Christ]

5 hours ago, Ivan1997GTA said:

I think this whole backlash against the Definitive Edition is starting to turn into another scandal, something like GTAGate, or Gate Theft Auto.

 

Remember when DRIV3R was hyped up back in 2004 and launched to negative reviews because it was buggy and unfinished, to the point where it spawned its own scandal, known as Driv3rgate?

 

 

That is very similar to what the Definitive Edition of the GTA trilogy is going through at the moment. Though, I think the saddest part is that DRIV3R looks way more finished and stable than the so-called "Definitive" Edition of the GTA trilogy that it competed against back in the day.

 

Wasn't that because of people getting paid to write positive reviews? I don't see how these two are related. Trilogy DE has pretty awful reviews and coverage for a R* release so far.

[Ivan1997GTA]

10 minutes ago, Jezus Holy Christ said:

 

Wasn't that because of people getting paid to write positive reviews? I don't see how these two are related. Trilogy DE has pretty awful reviews and coverage for a R* release so far.

Yeah, but the Definitive Edition of the GTA trilogy suffered from the opposite problem of DRIV3R before release, in that Take-Two or Rockstar didn't send any review copies to professional reviewers, which, to me, is just as shady as sending a preview copy of the game before its launch to a magazine in exchange for good review scores. Let's not forget, when DRIV3R did launch two months after PSM2 and Xbox World's reviews were published, the game received bad reviews, like from GameSpot (5/10) and Eurogamer (3/10), the latter of which called the game "the biggest gaming letdown of all time".

Edited November 18, 2021 by Ivan1997GTA

[ZaxxerDog]

I think that if you look around and see what the people who actually know a lot about the inner workings of these games think then the picture becomes quite clear:

This is just not fixable, it seems to be broken at its core and while 3 and VC are somewhat better than SA the overall experience feels the same. Even if you look around the community there are only absolute fanboys and some sociopaths defending this release, that usually happens when something this inexcusable sees the light of day.

 

Personally? I'm done with this company, I'll just keep replaying the old stuff and that will be it.

Edited November 18, 2021 by ZaxxerDog

[Snesgamer83]

And just to think - the concept they're working on right now.... is a VR version of San Andreas... AGAIN.

 

At this point, Rockstar needs to be EXTREMELY forthcoming with whatever might be happening behind the scenes with GTA 6.

 

If it hasn't even been started yet - they need to at least acknowledge they've been f'ing up and it's time to get serious and begin work.

 

If it has - at least confirm progress is being made.

 

But silence is no longer an option at this juncture.

[Jason]

12 minutes ago, Snesgamer83 said:

And just to think - the concept they're working on right now.... is a VR version of San Andreas... AGAIN.

 

At this point, Rockstar needs to be EXTREMELY forthcoming with whatever might be happening behind the scenes with GTA 6.

 

If it hasn't even been started yet - they need to at least acknowledge they've been f'ing up and it's time to get serious and begin work.

 

If it has - at least confirm progress is being made.

 

But silence is no longer an option at this juncture.

 

What on earth does GTA DE's troubles have to do with info about GTA VI?

 

Do we all of a sudden want early game announcements again simply cause they bungled a game launch? Do we all of a sudden enjoy waiting what could be 2-3 years between announcements and games? I certainly don't lol. We benefit in absolutely no way from some knee jerk reaction from R* to show or talk in anyway about VI until they're ready. Hell, you can damn well bet if they did what you suggest we'd immediatelly have a load of people saying they're deflecting attention away from the DE trilogy mess.

 

Reading some of these posts it's like some of you guys are trying to one up each other in anger about the DE trilogy lol.

 

Also, the best course of action to show your disappointment in a company is, as it always has been and always will be, to simply not purchase their products - or play their products, cause piracy creates more problems than it solves despite what some idiots think.