After Definitive Edition, how are your expectations for GTA VI?

[Badman_]

And do you think the problems of DE are going to somehow affect GTA VI?

 

I honestly don't know what to think. DE wasn't exactly developed by Rockstar main studio and it looks more like a filler to me. They're trying to fill the gap.

 

Their last "new" game, released not more than 3 years ago, was a masterpiece. Did they lose their touch in such a small time period?

[Donald Lov]

Their future as a company depends on it. It may not turn out to be the greatest, but I'm sure as hell they'll work their asses off. The question is: Is the creative spirit still as strong and perfection-seeking as it used to be?

[GrudgefromSanAndreas]

I hope it's released for ps6 or ps7 or never, hopefully this will give more time for rivals to seize the opportunity and beat gta the way fortnite beat pubg, or that one period when pes beat fifa. Basically, studios should dethrone gta and r* from their game if possible, hopefully volition will delay sr reboot for a few months and polish it enough it can outsell gta v sp and online combined, alas thats probably too far-fetched. Maybe even ubisoft can make it, however it also seems unlikely unless they release a 4th wd which would finally learn from all mistakes of previous titles and improve in rdr2 levels, which is also unlikely given the backlash of and propaganda in fc6 and their other titles.

Maybe we should not expect its release at all, maybe we should just build a rocket boy 

[NightmanCometh96]

Very low at this point. To be fair, I don't think the game will be a buggy, unoptimized glitch-fest like DE, but seeing how R* handled this release (celebrating GTA III's 20th anniversary by farming out "remasters" to a mobile developer for a quick buck), I'm expecting VI to have a barebones (at least by R* standards), by the numbers campaign (only for the sake of being able to fill out the "story mode" box on a "selling point" checklist, if that makes sense). The real attention will go into whatever micro-transaction infested, decade+ lasting mess that GTAO2 turns out to be. The departure of key R* members including Dan and Lazlow doesn't instill much confidence, either.

 

That's not to say I wouldn't play the game no matter what, though. But before the DE released, I would have been willing to purchase VI day-one, despite the increasingly scummy actions R*/T2 have taken over the past few years. However, now it has fallen into "wait for reviews and/or a deep sale" territory for me.

[DexMacLeod]

I don't think the trilogy remake really has any bearing on GTA VI. From what I understand the trilogy used that much hated San Andreas mobile port as its foundation which was heavily flawed from the start. Obviously, VI will be using another iteration of RAGE.

 

Also, it seems pretty clear that the trilogy was rushed to make the Anniversary. It's also pretty clear that they aren't rushing GTA VI in the slightest. It'll get all the time and money it needs.

 

Most importantly, Grove Street Games probably won't be anywhere near VI.

 

If the next version of GTA V is a rushed and buggy mess, maybe then we should worry.

[Middle Class Roadman]

After seeing how DE turned out, I personally am extremely worried about GTA VI.

[Jabalous]

DE is irrelevant to VI.

Edited November 16, 2021 by Jabalous

[VercettiGuy]

Since I doubt that DE had anything to do with VI, I would re-phrase the question:

 

"After GTA V/Online, how are your expectations for GTA VI?"

 

The answer is: Low.

[Jutland]

Presumably they farmed it out to GSG because all their own people are too busy working on … GTA VI.

 

Why on earth should R* put their own people on a 20 year old game? They want ALL their people working on the NEW game.

 

So I have no worries

[MrBreak16]

I am worried because of the direction Rockstar Games and Take-Two has taken these past few years and the leaving of Dan Houser as the lead writer. But on the bright side, I know that Rockstar Studios will be making the game and not Grove Street Games. And Rockstar Studios last game was a banger (Red Dead Redemption 2)

Edited November 17, 2021 by MrBreak16

[One of Wisemen]

Don't want to talk about DE, there's no point talking about the sh*thousery of DE when it will never be fixed.

 

Honestly, I'm no longer hyped for GTA VI. You can say that "but Rockstar didn't work on it, GSG did it", but Rockstar did approved this. They have set the quality bar too low that Rockstar can literally approve and release GTA VI in Cyberpunk's state, a buggy unfinished mess.

[Racecarlock]

Honestly, I'm looking for a different sandbox game company at this point. Don't know who it's going to be. Maybe lezlie benzies's new game "Identity" will be good, maybe dan houser might make something, or maybe a new developer will come out of nowhere with a great sandbox game. Or maybe GTA VI will somehow turn out to be good. Either way, rockstar's time at the top may be over.

[LjCool13]

low. very low. the fact that R* approved DE a remastered version of the games that made them who they are today (for better or for worse) and this is how it is is awful

[VCPR]

My expectations didn't changed, since I stopped expecting anything when E&E was shown

[Jakub1904]

13 hours ago, Jabalous said:

DE is irrelevant to VI.

Of course, there's no way VI could be anywhere near as bad as the Trilogy DE but still, it was Rockstar's decision to appoint GSG for the remasters. If that's the way they treat their legendary games which pretty much started it all, what makes you so sure about VI?

[Jabalous]

2 minutes ago, Jakub1904 said:

Of course, there's no way VI could be anywhere near as bad as the Trilogy DE but still, it was Rockstar's decision to appoint GSG for the remasters. If that's the way they treat their legendary games which pretty much started it all, what makes you so sure about VI?

 

GSG won't be appointed to develop VI. 

[MetroFloaty]

GSG and Rockstar aren't the same studio

[Jakub1904]

3 minutes ago, Jabalous said:

 

GSG won't be appointed to develop VI. 

Yeah, obviously. The point is that if they "care" about the Trilogy so much that they let GSG do those remasters instead of hiring a bigger studio or doing it themselves, what makes you so sure that they care about VI enough to make it a worthy successor to their previous mainline titles? To be clear, VI is still my most anticipated game right now. I can't say I'm not worried, though. 

 

11 hours ago, Jutland said:

Presumably they farmed it out to GSG because all their own people are too busy working on … GTA VI.

 

Why on earth should R* put their own people on a 20 year old game? They want ALL their people working on the NEW game.

 

So I have no worries

Why shouldn't they put their own people on a 20 year old game? If they are that busy with GTA VI, they shouldn't have bothered with those remasters at all. Or they could've hired a bigger studio. Furthermore, there seems to be no problem with them working on a re-release of GTA V, so why not the Trilogy? After all, until the reveal, everyone thought Rockstar Dundee was working on Trilogy DE.

[Midnight Hitman]

Its' SP campaign will take just a few hours. It will prepare the player for GTA VI: Online.

[lil vader]

There should be some glaring concerns about the quality of GTA VI, independent of defective edition, that mostly pertain to it's story due to Dan Houser and Lazlow's respective departures, though I doubt the current state of DE should at all be reflective of any project Rockstar is working on. GSG continue to prove themselves at being incompetent in doing anything except exclusive mobile ports but we're yet to see an actual product from R*. This will probably become apparent when they decide to drop a trailer for literally any other game besides GTA Online or RDO in 10 years.

[Lock n' Stock]

Rock-bottom, to put it lightly. Sure R* had little developmental input on the Defective Edition, but they were still 100% accountable for putting it out in the abysmal state it was. It's obvious that quality control is no longer a priority at that sh*thole.

[MetroFloaty]

2 hours ago, Jakub1904 said:

Why shouldn't they put their own people on a 20 year old game? If they are that busy with GTA VI, they shouldn't have bothered with those remasters at all. Or they could've hired a bigger studio. Furthermore, there seems to be no problem with them working on a re-release of GTA V, so why not the Trilogy? After all, until the reveal, everyone thought Rockstar Dundee was working on Trilogy DE.

 

The reason I believe they didn't hire another studio was that, despite their incompetence, GSG had previous experience working with the classic titles whereas any other studio wouldn't, and we would've probably gotten something just as bad as the current DE if any other studio did it 

[Jabalous]

6 hours ago, Jakub1904 said:

Yeah, obviously. The point is that if they "care" about the Trilogy so much that they let GSG do those remasters instead of hiring a bigger studio or doing it themselves, what makes you so sure that they care about VI enough to make it a worthy successor to their previous mainline titles? To be clear, VI is still my most anticipated game right now. I can't say I'm not worried, though. 

 

I think R* does indeed not care about DE otherwise they wouldn't have outsourced it to a 3rd party studio. I don't need to assume or imagine whether VI will be given a proper treatment because I can see the record/output of R* Studios, with Redemption 2 being the latest one. That game was so good and the same studios are working on VI, so I believe VI will be as good.

Edited November 17, 2021 by Jabalous

[Jakub1904]

21 minutes ago, MetroFloaty said:

 

The reason I believe they didn't hire another studio was that, despite their incompetence, GSG had previous experience working with the classic titles whereas any other studio wouldn't, and we would've probably gotten something just as bad as the current DE if any other studio did it 

Sorry, but that's just a lame excuse. Do you really believe there is no studio besides GSG that ever stood a chance of properly remastering these games? I love Rockstar's games, but I refuse to pretend that this is okay. Three legendary titles are now a laughing stock all over the Internet and you can't even buy the original versions anymore.

[Geisterfaust]

After doesn't imply direct causation in this case, but my overall expectations were and are low, mostly because of possible online-only gameplay.

[Lemoyne outlaw]

i still think gta 6 should be good. i consider rdr2 to be the game of the decade. it would be hard to think that gta 6 would be so horrible after an amazing game. but at the same time. we already lost a lot of the rockstar veterans that made these games so good. and while im sure there are other great writers and developers. i just really hope it has that same quality and amount of content. im also worried that the story mode will be very small and be treated as bad as gta 5 and rdr2. i dont expect any story dlc or post launch content. so i really hope the story mode has as much or more content than rdr2 has when it releases. but im sure their main focus is multiplayer and microtransactions. and i hate that. i have a feeling that the gta 5 e&e is gonna be a weak cash grab. and looking at the trailers its not impressive. i really hope its not an indication of how gta 6 will be. but only time will tell.

[Midnight Dutch]

8 years later and I still can’t get into the story of GTA V.  V has it’s ups and downs, but I was so isolated from the story the only enjoyment I get from the game is online and sometimes Director mode.

 

I do believe the GTA series as a whole has lost it’s identity.  I still think GTA 6 will be good, but my expectations constantly lower.    I do long for a day when a rival studio can top the GTA series, but the gaming golden age is over and I think that window has closed.

[José_Sócrates]

Let's be honest. My expectations have been low ever since GTA V. They did release RDR2, which gives me hope, but come on, even then there were still some problems with that game which would be magnified if they appeared in a GTA. Besides, if Dan Houser has nothing to do with the game, then my expectations are definitely out the window. People in these forums don't learn. The DE fiasco could be seen from a mile away. The users who have their eyes open knew this was coming. Hell, I knew this was coming, I predicted this, and the only surprise I got was that the games managed to be worse than what I expected. I was still seen as a pessimist, as someone "raining on other's parades", and my opinion was dismissed by all of the fanboys in these forums. You ask how are my expectations for GTA VI? Who even has any good expectations for GTA VI? Come on, think about it. It's 2021, not 2011. The only good thing we got from Rockstar in the past few years was RDR2, and that was already 3 years ago and Rockstar seems to be getting worse every year. How can someone genuinely and reasonably expect Rockstar to deliver at this point? Literally how? Based on what? I really want to know.

[Cyper]

I honestly don't know.

 

My expectations for RDR2 was really low, but after watching gameplay on youtube, and reading user reviews on metacritic, I thought ''This is it. This is everything that GTA V was not. This is the type of game I want and I want it NOW.'' I bought the game plus Xbox One X the next day just for RDR2 and truth to be told it's the best game I ever have played.

 

So, I don't know what to expect from GTA VI. One thing is for sure though: I won't pre-order it and I wont buy it until i've seen the user reviews and gameplay on youtube.

[rjmthe2nd]

On 11/16/2021 at 1:48 PM, Notorious_Jack said:

Their future as a company depends on it. It may not turn out to be the greatest, but I'm sure as hell they'll work their asses off. The question is: Is the creative spirit still as strong and perfection-seeking as it used to be?

 

They needed the Benz for RDR so I don't know man ..