How have the mighty has fallen….

[Donald Lov]

It is indeed surprising how little was changed besides the visuals. Spent some time watching KZ_Frew's(a relatively well-known GTA speedrunner) Vice City remastered stream a few days ago and got quite amazed at how most speedrun glitches and exploits of the original still work as effectively. The question is: What demographic were they aiming for with the game? The newer generation of gamers will mostly reject it as the archaic feel of the originals is still very much there; the older generation will mostly reject the changes and stick to the originals. Who's left? 

I guess it might explain the removal of the originals and the heavy purge of the modding community. They want to make their money in the long run by not offering the consumer any other options. Somebody would want to replay the trilogy in a few years from now and what are they going to do? They didn't get a hold of the originals when they had the opportunity to do so. "Wanna replay the classics? Sorry dude, we only offer the remastered versions, but they're better! That'll be 60 bucks, take it or leave it." 

[Tony V]

5 hours ago, Quinn_flower said:

Lol no one is talking about the games.

 

 

im talking about how the pr department or upper is handling things.

 

taking away something that me and people paid for is wrong is must be illegal in consumer protection laws.

 

we paid for a product and now we can’t use said product. 
 

do you see the problem  here? 

 

 

 

 

Ok so they clearly stated there was an issue with files and pulled the game to fix it and then they will put it back.

 

Same thing they used to do back in the day with hard copies if there was an issue they would pull discs from the shelves from music to games to movies.

 

Only difference now is that its digital and when they pull the game from the store it removes all copies. Ok I can understand why people are upset but they did it for a reason. You guys act like they want to do sh*t like that. 

 

My thing is this, if people weren't satisfied with the pictures and trailers from DE why the f*ck pre order it or even buy it & then complain?

 

I'm starting to think the age demographic on this server is 15 & younger because no common sense is here. 

 

Thats the problem with this generation everything hand delivered on a silver spoon and y'all still fix y'all mouth to complain and sh*t on something. 

 

Edited November 13, 2021 by Tony V

[Carbonox]

9 minutes ago, Tony V said:

 

Ok so they clearly stated there was an issue with files and pulled the game to fix it and then they will put it back.

 

Same thing they used to do back in the day with hard copies if there was an issue they would pull discs from the shelves from music to games to movies.

 

Only difference now is that its digital and when they pull the game from the store it removes all copies. Ok I can understand why people are upset but they did it for a reason. You guys act like they want to do sh*t like that. 

 

My thing is this, if people weren't satisfied with the pictures and trailers from DE why the f*ck pre order it or even buy it & then complain?

 

I'm starting to think the age demographic on this server is 15 & younger because no common sense is here. 

 

Thats the problem with this generation everything hand delivered on a silver spoon and y'all still fix y'all mouth to complain and sh*t on something. 

 

Expecting basic consumer rights in an increasingly corporate world is now a 15-year-old thing? Cool, whatever.

 

Sure is convenient that content is only ever getting pulled in order to remove stuff.

[Badman_]

Youtubers are just reacting and they're not to blame for any fiasco. The responsiblity is all up to the game developer (in this case it is Rockstar).

[rbix]

If people already downloaded the games from the launcher, why R* won't let them play? OK, no new purchases and no downloads, but if someone already has the files, why just won't let him play?

[Tommyvercettii]

I don't understand this one thing, that when GTA E&E's trailer dropped everyone disliked that trailer on youtube, but the trailer of GTA Trilogy-DE has 570k likes at the moment, which means people were excited about this game but now when we look at the metacritic's rating of this game, it is less than 1.0.

 

What went wrong?

[Tony V]

24 minutes ago, Carbonox said:

Expecting basic consumer rights in an increasingly corporate world is now a 15-year-old thing? Cool, whatever.

 

Sure is convenient that content is only ever getting pulled in order to remove stuff.

 

Please dude stop it.

 

https://www.rocketlawyer.com/gb/en/quick-guides/consumer-rights-when-purchasing-digital-content

 

Corrupted Digital Content

Please bear in mind, that the Consumer Rights Act gives consumers protection when it comes to digital downloads that fail to work (ie digital downloads that are corrupt). Consumers are entitled to a repair or replacement if the digital content is faulty and even compensation if other downloads or devices are affected.

 

Nothing was violated since Rockstar is giving back the game once the files are removed. 

 

& They are still giving refunds for people that simply don't like the game when they could tell people kick rocks. 

Edited November 13, 2021 by Tony V

[Quinn_flower]

10 minutes ago, Tommyvercettii said:

I don't understand this one thing, that when GTA E&E's trailer dropped everyone disliked that trailer on youtube, but the trailer of GTA Trilogy-DE has 570k likes at the moment, which means people were excited about this game but now when we look at the metacritic's rating of this game, it is less than 1.0.

 

What went wrong?

What they did to the Pc people they are removing the game we paid for and we can’t even play it because of the launcher. Hense cracked. Is the way to go now.

 

i am a buyer I damn well should be able to use what I bought. 
 

Its like buying a used car advertised as working but when you take it home you got a lemon.

 

idc. If r* need to delete a file I want to play the game I paid $60 for

 

 

i haven’t heard anything about refunds giving from r* yet

Edited November 13, 2021 by Quinn_flower

[BadaBing_1996]

5 minutes ago, Tommyvercettii said:

I don't understand this one thing, that when GTA E&E's trailer dropped everyone disliked that trailer on youtube, but the trailer of GTA Trilogy-DE has 570k likes at the moment, which means people were excited about this game but now when we look at the metacritic's rating of this game, it is less than 1.0.

 

What went wrong?

"OOOOOOH shiny new thing me likey" - smoothbrains upon gazing at the DE trailer.

 

Not defending E&E either, f*ck the both of them and Rockstar/T2 in general.

[Americana]

I mean, what scores can they expect? We can't even buy these games on PC - and people who bought them can't download or play them.

 

Bruh.

[Lonely-Martin]

43 minutes ago, jaoxiden said:

Keep shilling buddy, you're doing great.

 

If all you've got is petty name calling, you've obviously got nothing to offer. 

 

Unlike some, I don't need some random on the web to tell me how and what I should have fun with in gaming. I'm enjoying these and aside the aforementioned PC launcher problem, all it is is overblown bitching and moaning. 

 

I make no apologies for not hoping on the bandwagon. But alas, I hope you find some joy in life one day that you move past this and stop trying to rain on another's parade.

Edited November 13, 2021 by Lonely-Martin
Autospell fail.

[Americana]

To be honest, I'd like to try these games myself, but as I've mentioned above...

[Tommyvercettii]

31 minutes ago, Quinn_flower said:

What they did to the Pc people they are removing the game we paid for and we can’t even play it because of the launcher. Hense cracked. Is the way to go now.

 

i am a buyer I damn well should be able to use what I bought. 
 

Its like buying a used car advertised as working but when you take it home you got a lemon.

 

idc. If r* need to delete a file I want to play the game I paid $60 for

 

 

i haven’t heard anything about refunds giving from r* yet

Rockstar didn't have to remove the games after shutting down the servers for so many hours. If they wanted to remove some files they could have done it so in few hours. But they are just being lazy or maybe they don't want people to refund their games.

27 minutes ago, Americana said:

I mean, what scores can they expect? We can't even buy these games on PC - and people who bought them can't download or play them.

 

Bruh.

Yeah, I know people are pissed at R* right now. But do you think this score will change, if R* solves this issue and let everyone play the game, or do you think that metacritic score would still be low because the remasters are not that impressive?

[Lock n' Stock]

13 hours ago, Carbonox said:

I'll say this much: I honestly have no beef with Grove Street Games. For all I know, they might all be nice down-to-earth people who just have a misguided vision, or were downright forced into downgrading the games by the higher-ups.

 

Rockstar and especially Take-Turd are our downright enemy at this stage, though. Their attitude towards game preservation tells you everything you need to know - they'd rather have all their games always online and susceptible to being taken away from you whenever they please. In particular, that undesirable scum Strauss Zelnick is, out of all the people in the planet, possibly the most unfit person that could call the shots for a series like this. Guarantee the motherf*cker couldn't even name three (3) Grove Street Families members or any other basic-ass information that's embedded into the brains of genuinely passionate fans, because all he ever gives a sh*t about is filling the shareholders' pockets and forbidding creative fun because it won't buy him an extra yacht to have coke parties on with other snot-nosed abusive billionaires. It's kinda like Devin Weston getting involved in the movie business just to f*ck things up for his own gain, now that I think about it.

Maybe I'm just too compassionate, but I refuse to demonise GSG in spite of the Definitive Edition's quality. The way I see it, they simply did a job they were contracted to do, nothing more and nothing less. It's obvious they were trying to bite off more than they could chew for a project this size, not to mention that R* probably imposed unreasonable deadlines on them without ensuring the quality properly, when they could have saved so much trouble by simply hiring one of their own in-house studios.

 

As far as Take-Two and that repugnant twat Zelnick are concerned, they can just go and eat a bag of dicks.

Edited November 14, 2021 by Lock n' Stock

[Carbonox]

28 minutes ago, Lock n' Stock said:

Maybe I'm just too compassionate, but I refuse to demonise GSG in spite of the Definitive Edition's quality. The way I see it, they simply did a job they contracted to do, nothing more and nothing less. It's obvious they were trying to bite off more than they could chew for a project this size, not to mention that R* probably imposed unreasonable deadlines on them without ensuring the quality properly, when they could have saved so much trouble by simply hiring on of their own in-house studios.

 

As far as Take-Two and that repugnant twat Zelnick are concerned, they can just go and eat a bag of dicks.

Grove Street's CEO does seem pretty smug in response to the criticism, but at least that's just one confirmed rotten apple out of ~100 or so.

 

Way different than Take-Turd, who haven't shown the slightest sign of humanity this past year, and have their lawyer team filled to the brim with absolute maggots that make Thomas Williamson look like a saint.

Edited November 13, 2021 by Carbonox

[Shrek Realista]

Unfortunately, the truth must be told: RDR2 was the last masterpiece from R*, it was a love letter from Dan House to us before he quit.

 

The golden age of R* is over and don't get any hope for GTA VI, the game will be as sh*t as this f*cking trilogy.

Edited November 13, 2021 by Chief_Forasteiro

[Badman_]

15 minutes ago, Chief_Forasteiro said:

Unfortunately, the truth must be said: RDR2 was the last masterpiece from R*, it was a love letter from Dan House to us before he quit.

 

The golden age of R* is over and don't get any hope for GTA VI, the game will be as sh*t as this f*cking trilogy.

 

Handling the remasters to GSG was a poor decision, but since the last "new" game was RDR2 I like to think there's still hope for GTA VI.

[mute!]

 

[S1aveUnit]

I can't believe this. I was actually the game up until the point where it was completely removed from RGL. Yeah I saw some glitchy problems in game, but I didn't think it would get this bad to where we bought the game and now we can't even play it.

18 hours ago, Lonely-Martin said:

Firstly, B&M thread.

 

Secondly, RDR2 proves R* are still producing quality games.

 

Third, who cares what some attention seeking money chasing youtuber says. He's only there to get attention and paid, and it's a proven formula that criticism sells better than praise, bad news sells better than good. They're the laughing stock for hopping on the bandwagon for clicks, lol.

There are some valid complaints though. I think some are going overboard. But we expected a product, we bought the product and now we don't even have said product. And who knows how long this will go on. 

Edited November 13, 2021 by S1aveUnit

[Lonely-Martin]

24 minutes ago, S1aveUnit said:

There are some valid complaints though. I think some are going overboard. But we expected a product, we bought the product and now we don't even have said product. And who knows how long this will go on. 

 

I agree. I mentioned this further into the thread that the PC issues are a mess.

[Moth]

6 hours ago, rbix said:

If people already downloaded the games from the launcher, why R* won't let them play? OK, no new purchases and no downloads, but if someone already has the files, why just won't let him play?

Cause the game files have the expired music licenses that were supposed to have been removed. The record companies are f*cking crazy when it comes to the licenses. It's why so many songs are missing from these games in the first place.

 

1 hour ago, Wolfman_ said:

but since the last "new" game was RDR2 I like to think there's still hope for GTA VI

I don't. Rumors are saying they have restarted development more than once. And now without their captain, they are going to hit an iceberg. 

[Badman_]

6 hours ago, Tony V said:

 

Please dude stop it.

 

https://www.rocketlawyer.com/gb/en/quick-guides/consumer-rights-when-purchasing-digital-content

 

Corrupted Digital Content

Please bear in mind, that the Consumer Rights Act gives consumers protection when it comes to digital downloads that fail to work (ie digital downloads that are corrupt). Consumers are entitled to a repair or replacement if the digital content is faulty and even compensation if other downloads or devices are affected.

 

Nothing was violated since Rockstar is giving back the game once the files are removed. 

 

& They are still giving refunds for people that simply don't like the game when they could tell people kick rocks. 

 

Not sure if they violated any consumer rights by taking down the games on launcher, but it surely is an unethical action to take. Not illegal, but unethical.

[Picklez]

The censorship already lost my interest. Everything else has just been a train so wrecked, CJ could follow it.

[VCPR]

9 hours ago, Moth said:

And now without their captain, they are going to hit an iceberg. 

but they did it already

[Moth]

2 minutes ago, VCPR Official said:

but they did it already

Nah, the iceberg is GTA VI, since they didn't actually make this sh*tmake. Of course, them not making sure it wasn't sh*t doesn't look good. 

[VCPR]

27 minutes ago, Moth said:

Nah, the iceberg is GTA VI

you forgot about E&E

[mute!]

On 11/12/2021 at 9:07 PM, Quinn_flower said:

Let’s get this straight I am a fan of r* I’m not bashing or anything but this is ridiculous this is worst than cyberpunk launch. Least the game still runs and not revoked after you bought it.

 

it a damn shame that r* has fallen from grace because they are focus in online and doesn’t show love like the previous games. 
 

I get that grove street games were probably crunched or forced by take 2 to make the end of winter quarter. But this is not how you do things r* and take 2

 

what was a respectful and renown company is now the laughing stock of social media and YouTube and gaming news.

 

angry joe says it better

 

 

Speaking of Angry Joe, I pray he reviews this game.

[AmethystViper]

 

Hahahaha. Karma couldn't be sweeter for Take-Two and Rockstar.

[Carbonox]

They're officially heading straight for the bottom of the toilet bowl.

 

 

[Mister Pink]

Zelnick loves money. That's all he cares about. No problem with that. Just when it affects quality of games is when I care. I'm not surprised he's got a hard on for NFT's.