How have the mighty has fallen….

[Quinn_flower]

Let’s get this straight I am a fan of r* I’m not bashing or anything but this is ridiculous this is worst than cyberpunk launch. Least the game still runs and not revoked after you bought it.

 

it a damn shame that r* has fallen from grace because they are focus in online and doesn’t show love like the previous games. 
 

I get that grove street games were probably crunched or forced by take 2 to make the end of winter quarter. But this is not how you do things r* and take 2

 

what was a respectful and renown company is now the laughing stock of social media and YouTube and gaming news.

 

angry joe says it better

 

 

Edited November 13, 2021 by Quinn_flower

[Americana]

Rockstar Games, a company which for the last 10 years produced four games, two of which I dislike.

 

Yeah, so - I'll stick with Ubisoft, but thanks for your... grace... Rockstar.

Edited November 13, 2021 by Americana

[Sniqer]

R* does make mistakes sometimes but the real cultprit here is TakeTwo.

The audacity this company has to send cease & desist letters to people who mod their own, purchased game, 

in front of the millions of players that love this franchise, knowing that they won't face any repercussions, is the worst part.

For Strauss Zelnick, a single dime of profit is worth more than the limitless fun people can have with mods.

Edited November 13, 2021 by Sniqer

[Lonely-Martin]

Firstly, B&M thread.

 

Secondly, RDR2 proves R* are still producing quality games.

 

Third, who cares what some attention seeking money chasing youtuber says. He's only there to get attention and paid, and it's a proven formula that criticism sells better than praise, bad news sells better than good. They're the laughing stock for hopping on the bandwagon for clicks, lol.

[Quinn_flower]

20 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

Firstly, B&M thread.

 

Secondly, RDR2 proves R* are still producing quality games.

 

Third, who cares what some attention seeking money chasing youtuber says. He's only there to get attention and paid, and it's a proven formula that criticism sells better than praise, bad news sells better than good. They're the laughing stock for hopping on the bandwagon for clicks, lol.

lol you do know that major gaming sites are posting bad pr for all those involved.

 

it might be up there with hot coffee if r* doesn’t give back people what they paid for like me and others. 
 

stop defending r* rdr2 sp great but online? That’s a failed project and all their efforts is focused on gta online

Edited November 13, 2021 by Quinn_flower

[Lonely-Martin]

4 minutes ago, Quinn_flower said:

lol you do know that major gaming sites are posting bad pr for all those involved.

 

it might be up there with hot coffee if r* doesn’t give back people what they paid for like me and others. 

 

Oh, I agree the issues on PC right now need sorting or refunding asap. 

 

But aside that, I don't care what gaming sites say. As I said, bad news sells and that's all those sites want is clicks so they'll print anything. 

 

Hell, one is looking to criticise San Andreas for OG Loc looking to kill the character that raped him in one article I read in the San An B&M thread. If that's what it's coming to, the reviewers are truly the laughing stock.

[Mingo6]

18 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

Firstly, B&M thread.

 

Secondly, RDR2 proves R* are still producing quality games.

 

Third, who cares what some attention seeking money chasing youtuber says. He's only there to get attention and paid, and it's a proven formula that criticism sells better than praise, bad news sells better than good. They're the laughing stock for hopping on the bandwagon for clicks, lol.

 

The AngryJoe bit was likely just a joke to demonstrate the community's sentiment to this horrific launch. that clip is from like five years ago, and he has not done any review or video on this release as far as I am aware. In regards to the current situation, I am really hopeful that this triggers a similar effect that the Star Wars Battlefront 2 debacle created back in 2017, where the criticism was so hard hintingly pervasive and widespread, it was all over the news. This forced EA to take PR saving measures, which generally appeased the community in the end. I would not put it past Take Two to force the button down harder on Rockstar, but I hope in the end we get something from this situation.

[Lock n' Stock]

The launch of the DE has been a unsurpassed disaster on levels I never thought imaginable. Between that, GTA V E&E, ModGate, and no VI announcement (which let's face it, is probably going to be sh*t anyway), I can confidently say that the decline of R* is in full swing.

[Lonely-Martin]

10 minutes ago, Mingo6 said:

The AngryJoe bit was likely just a joke to demonstrate the community's sentiment to this horrific launch. that clip is from like five years ago, and he has not done any review or video on this release as far as I am aware. In regards to the current situation, I am really hopeful that this triggers a similar effect that the Star Wars Battlefront 2 debacle created back in 2017, where the criticism was so hard hintingly pervasive and widespread, it was all over the news. This forced EA to take PR saving measures, which generally appeased the community in the end. I would not put it past Take Two to force the button down harder on Rockstar, but I hope in the end we get something from this situation.

 

My criticism of youtubers wasn't aimed at anyone specific, just speaking generally. They're all just gonna do whatever makes them money, simple as really.

 

But alas, I can't see how they'll change things to please more. Of course, fixing the current PC issues will help, but aside a couple of bug fixing patches, there's not much to be done really. It's not like that Star Wars game where DLC or readjusting ranking up/in-game economy or whatever happened there could be of any help here like it could for a new release like that was when the sh*t hit the fan.

 

Plus R*/T2 have an easy 'out' on this if it does get crazy. They can just blame it on the other developers involved and say they'll not work with them again if they fear their future projects will be impacted. Not that this re-release and any rightful criticism will stop GTA:O from thriving or a GTA VI selling like hotcakes when it comes. Again, look at the criticism of GTA:O, but RDR2 sold very well indeed.

 

Besides, I feel these games are ok. Just a bit of fun really, I don't take it to heart like others as nothing can replace the years I had with these 3 games when they originally released. They're just re-released with a few graphics changes and I was never one to expect all the stuff others seemingly did. I may have wanted swimming in III/VC for example, but it fits the original games not to have added it, and isn't a deal breaker for me.

 

All I expected was a bit of jazzing up but essentially the same games, that's what we got. No biggie for me. Though again, the current launcher issues on PC need addressing asap of course.

[Tony V]

1 hour ago, Quinn_flower said:

lol you do know that major gaming sites are posting bad pr for all those involved.

 

it might be up there with hot coffee if r* doesn’t give back people what they paid for like me and others. 
 

stop defending r* rdr2 sp great but online? That’s a failed project and all their efforts is focused on gta online

 

LMAO all y'all do is bitch and moan and bitch and moan.

 

Rockstar just gave us some content while we wait for GTA 6, and rumors of redoing RDR & GTA4. 

 

Do y'all want a brand new game or the old ones? 

 

Everyone needs to calm down forreal. 

[flex1911]

Every time you think you're stupid, remember - there are people who STILL defend Trilogy: The Scam Edition even after its disastrous launch 

[Donald Lov]

3 hours ago, Lock n' Stock said:

The launch of the DE has been a unsurpassed disaster on levels I never thought imaginable. Between that, GTA V E&E, ModGate, and no VI announcement (which let's face it, is probably going to be sh*t anyway), I can confidently say that the decline of R* is in full swing.

I agree, the decline is evident, but for the time being I wouldn't rush to conclusions in regards to VI. Whatever it is they're preparing, they have all the time and money in the world to spend on it. Paradoxically, albeit being a billion dollar company, their fate depends wholly on this one game. If they fail to deliver, they're done for, no doubt about it. It isn't exactly the same as putting out a half-assed remastered to silence the shareholders and fans for some time.

[VCPR]

1 hour ago, Notorious_Jack said:

I agree, the decline is evident, but for the time being I wouldn't rush to conclusions in regards to VI. Whatever it is they're preparing, they have all the time and money in the world to spend on it. Paradoxically, albeit being a billion dollar company, their fate depends wholly on this one game. If they fail to deliver, they're done for, no doubt about it. It isn't exactly the same as putting out a half-assed remastered to silence the shareholders and fans for some time.

whatever, that whole debacle in fact made Zees and Big Jim Xenoxes right

and I wouldn't be shocked if next GTA won't be up to quality of older games

[Donald Lov]

3 minutes ago, VCPR Official said:

and I wouldn't be shocked if next GTA won't be up to quality of older games

Me too, in fact I'm pretty certain about it. But I think if it's destined to be as such, it will be not due to a lack of care or effort, but, rather, talent and creativity. In other words, something like The Last Of Us 2 - a well-made game that is at the same time shallow and off-putting.

[VCPR]

3 minutes ago, Notorious_Jack said:

In other words, something like The Last Of Us 2 - a well-made game that is at the same time shallow and off-putting.

nah, you can't go lower than TLoU2 in that regard

[Copcaller]

4 hours ago, Tony V said:

 

LMAO all y'all do is bitch and moan and bitch and moan.

 

Rockstar just gave us some content while we wait for GTA 6, and rumors of redoing RDR & GTA4. 

 

Do y'all want a brand new game or the old ones? 

 

Everyone needs to calm down forreal. 

I want new games like gta 6 and bully 2

[Lexiture]

After further thought I'm no longer excited about any future R* output. And you can't mention RDR2 since it was in development for about 5 years before GTA Online started to gain popularity. 

 

It will have a serviceable story and be like another Red Dead Online - With dual currency, battle pass, peer to peer and having to pay real money for cars and stuff. Take Two Style.

 

Most people don't think about this they just want VI even though they fail to see the road it's gonna take. 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 13, 2021 by Lexiture

[Quinn_flower]

5 hours ago, Tony V said:

 

LMAO all y'all do is bitch and moan and bitch and moan.

 

Rockstar just gave us some content while we wait for GTA 6, and rumors of redoing RDR & GTA4. 

 

Do y'all want a brand new game or the old ones? 

 

Everyone needs to calm down forreal. 

Lol no one is talking about the games.

 

 

im talking about how the pr department or upper is handling things.

 

taking away something that me and people paid for is wrong is must be illegal in consumer protection laws.

 

we paid for a product and now we can’t use said product. 
 

do you see the problem  here? 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 13, 2021 by Quinn_flower

[Lonely-Martin]

7 hours ago, Quinn_flower said:

stop defending r* rdr2 sp great but online? That’s a failed project and all their efforts is focused on gta online

 

Cute edit, lol.

 

It's not about defending them, it's about keeping expectations realistic. They get plenty of deserved criticism from me for things, I agree regarding RDRO, major missed opportunity IMHO. But each their own. Anyone that's read my posts in either online section knows I can be very critical where I feel it's warranted. And though some is for this trilogy, it's gotten daft and makes this place hard to visit. Won't stop me having fun in games though.

 

I don't mind/care if they use the online modes to gain extra masses of cash, never bothered me. I just want stuff to play, and though RDRO hasn't drawn me in like it could, GTA:O has found a return to form after all that public only crap. So I'll enjoy it no matter how much it pisses others off or what they want to call me, I don't care how others feel if all they've got is 'don't defend them' 'fanboy' or whatever nonsense. If I like something, I'll play it.

 

But RDR2 does show their new story modes are still capable of magic, and that's where I care. If GTA VI turns out crap, then I'll judge them on that, RDR2 delivered and all their story modes have before that, so I'm more than willing to wait and see before bitching about the company.

 

You could be right that the future is grim, but until we get there, who knows. 

 

You say your a fan but all you do it drop in with throwaway cheap shots damn near everywhere or knock people for enjoying their gaming just because you aren't (it's why it's hard to take you seriously TBH). Seems silly to me. But again, I do agree this trilogy deserves the criticism of how the PC release has gone, but it's just another reason for me to never touch a R* game with my PC but I learned that years ago with how GTA:O went. 

24 minutes ago, Quinn_flower said:

im talking about how the pr department or upper is handling things.

 

taking away something that me and people paid for is wrong is must be illegal in consumer protection laws.

 

we paid for a product and now we can’t use said product. 
 

do you see the problem  here? 

 

See, that I agree with.

 

Though I don't think it's illegal to remove these but certainly would be not to offer full refund. I'm not up to date on digital media laws so could be wrong.

 

If anything, if it's true about the music, it would be illegal for R* to sell these with copyrighted material and no licence so they're backed into a corner. But they should have checked this before release of course.

Edited November 13, 2021 by Lonely-Martin
Wording.

[SageFan]

Hopefully they weren't actually expecting people to buy this, and when it occurred to them that people will eat whatever sh*t they put out no matter what, they decided to revert course and remove it from existence forever. 

 

Maybe that would be the Rockstar who respected our intelligence though. 

[The Made Man]

Anyone who buys this at full price is a moron and deserves to get scammed.

[Journey_95]

10 hours ago, Americana said:

Rockstar Games, a company which for the last 10 years produced four games, two of which I dislike.

 

Yeah, so - I'll stick with Ubisoft, but thanks for your... grace... Rockstar.

Ubisoft is even worse tbh. Just releasing rehashed garbage every year. Rockstar is getting damm lazy with this low effort remaster and the "enhaced" edition of GTA V, not to mention milking Online but GTA V and especially RDR2 were still amazing games. But sadly they are declining now

 

1 hour ago, Lexiture said:

After further thought I'm no longer excited about any future R* output. And you can't mention RDR2 since it was in development for about 5 years before GTA Online started to gain popularity. 

 

It will have a serviceable story and be like another Red Dead Online - With dual currency, battle pass, peer to peer and having to pay real money for cars and stuff. Take Two Style.

 

Most people don't think about this they just want VI even though they fail to see the road it's gonna take. 

 

 

 

 

 

Not to mention with Dan Houser gone the writing will suffer. He gave the GTA series a unique identity and delivered one of the best video game stories with RDR2.

Edited November 13, 2021 by Journey_95

[Americana]

I'd take absolutely amazing and atmospheric Watch Dogs 1 over overhyped Grand Theft Auto V any day.

[Carbonox]

I'll say this much: I honestly have no beef with Grove Street Games. For all I know, they might all be nice down-to-earth people who just have a misguided vision, or were downright forced into downgrading the games by the higher-ups.

 

Rockstar and especially Take-Turd are our downright enemy at this stage, though. Their attitude towards game preservation tells you everything you need to know - they'd rather have all their games always online and susceptible to being taken away from you whenever they please. In particular, that undesirable scum Strauss Zelnick is, out of all the people in the planet, possibly the most unfit person that could call the shots for a series like this. Guarantee the motherf*cker couldn't even name three (3) Grove Street Families members or any other basic-ass information that's embedded into the brains of genuinely passionate fans, because all he ever gives a sh*t about is filling the shareholders' pockets and forbidding creative fun because it won't buy him an extra yacht to have coke parties on with other snot-nosed abusive billionaires. It's kinda like Devin Weston getting involved in the movie business just to f*ck things up for his own gain, now that I think about it.

[RECO-BEAVER-BURGERS]

8 hours ago, Lock n' Stock said:

The launch of the DE has been a unsurpassed disaster on levels I never thought imaginable. Between that, GTA V E&E, ModGate, and no VI announcement (which let's face it, is probably going to be sh*t anyway), I can confidently say that the decline of R* is in full swing.

I installed GTA III & Vice City from R* Launcher and played both games until I reached the second City I had no major bugs or glitches aside from a few awkward free gun animations also I noticed that music people said was cut was actually still playing in the games radio so far my only major issue is that all three of my games are no longer in my Library but they are still installed on my SSD which is weird.

Edited November 13, 2021 by RECO-BEAVER-BURGERS

[VCPR]

19 minutes ago, Carbonox said:

Rockstar and especially Take-Turd are our downright enemy at this stage, though.

hell, R* is their own enemy es well

[BadaBing_1996]

1 hour ago, Journey_95 said:

Not to mention with Dan Houser gone the writing will suffer. He gave the GTA series a unique identity and delivered one of the best video game stories with RDR2.

You can tell the writing already sh*t the bed pretty badly with every SINGLE bit of dialogue from recent GTAO DLCs.

 

Particularly Diamond Casino & Resort, Diamond Casino Heist, Cayo Perico, and Tuners update. It's all cringe-inducing, absolutely f*cking awful verbal diarrhea.  A 12 year old deviantart furry fanfic writer from some nook of the world can probably come up with better material than the dumb c*nt that's currently in charge of the writing department.

Edited November 13, 2021 by BadaBing_1996
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[MekhiSkyline]

1 minute ago, BadaBing_1996 said:

You can tell the writing already sh*t the bed pretty badly with every SINGLE bit of dialogue from recent GTAO DLCs.

 

Particularly Cayo Perico and Tuners update, absolutely f*cking awful.

Exactly it's just so cringeworthy.

[Jabalous]

2 hours ago, The Made Man said:

Anyone who buys this at full price is a moron and deserves to get scammed.

 

I won't even play it for free, haha. Time is precious, too, and I won't waste it on sh*tty games. Either do a proper revisit/redevelopment of the original games like Mafia DE (complete rebuild from scratch), or don't bother. Mixing new with old gets us what's known as GTA DE, or as some call it DF (Definitive Failure). 

 

Many mods out there are much better, some of which even implement ragdoll animations and such.

Edited November 13, 2021 by Jabalous

[Americana]

I mean, these games are so outdated - I hoped that these remaster would improve on certain aspects as shooting and driving - but no, it's 100% the same. Also, why did they keep these outdated HUDs?

 

Yes, it's a remaster not a remake - so why not remaster the worst aspects of these games?