San Andreas Definitive Edition Complaints & Criticisms Topic

[Mindshower]

10 hours ago, Papayamamba said:

My heart aches and at the same time, cries from joy seeing this:

 

 

 

It's insane how much better this thing looks, partly because of the fog / mist effects.

Rockstar really could've redefined the traditional remaster here if they treated it like their baby and rolled it out alongside E&E later on. What a shame, San Andreas is still an awesome game of enormous scope, to see people experience it for the first time without the magic is depressing.

[Midnight Dutch]

You would think with the growing amount of backlash there would be some attempt at damage control.  

 

Heh.  I said you *would* think.. this is Rockstar (in 2021) so, yeh.  

 

Perhaps they know there’s no saving it.

[IVCavalcade]

2 hours ago, Mindshower said:

Rockstar really could've redefined the traditional remaster here if they treated it like their baby and rolled it out alongside E&E later on. What a shame, San Andreas is still an awesome game of enormous scope, to see people experience it for the first time without the magic is depressing.

Yeah for sure.. the world feels so much more 'gamey' and less immersive without the fog especially - I did that mission where you parachute onto the dam, and you have to basically reach the height limit to hit the corona before you jump, it totally kills the vibe when there are no clouds and you see the entire perimeter of the map, it just feels like you're in a big box or toy town or something lol, very Truman Show.

[Ivan1997GTA]

So, have they fixed the missing fog in the sky yet, or not?

[sonnyC]

12 hours ago, Papayamamba said:

My heart aches and at the same time, cries from joy seeing this:

 

 

 

It's insane how much better this thing looks, partly because of the fog / mist effects.

Maccer representing the mods and fanbase at 1:48

[Need For Madness Auto]

 

Look, I like Paint as well, but as a company working for the "big", you should at least use Gimp

[Yoona]

 

[zakkaz]

7 minutes ago, Yoona said:

 

"dEfInItIvE eDiTiOn"

[LeoneDeLaRue]

56 minutes ago, Yoona said:

 

I'm starting to think the DE is unsalvageable, even with patches.....

 

I don't see how the modders can fix all this. They shouldn't have to either. Rockstar is a joke if they don't fix most of this, f*ck sake.

[j.hunt]

Its so sad how Rockstar became just another scammer company, just like Ubisoft or EA, and lately CdProjekt, they give zero f*cks about quality or content-

Without Leslie Benzies, Dan Houser or Jeronimo Barrera they are just another big team realeasing mid tier quality games , probably RDR2 was their last big good game

[SquoniX]

Thanks to a mod:

 

[Cutter De Blanc]

It seems like they changed the damage on all cars so it no longer goes from white smoke to black smoke to on fire, instead it just starts to smoke a little bit and then abruptly catches on fire

[EvilShadow]

11 hours ago, Big_Smiley said:

 

Forget the graphics part really based on what we have now in comparison. The original versions worked by "Rockstar Games" are extremely hard to top off. You play the original old PS2 version with that nostalgia orange sky and compare to the DE it brings tears to our eyes to see what this goddamn company has become. Literally speaking, the original XBOX versions of III,VC,SA were at one point one of the best versions to own on consoles on par with PC besides every awsome mod out there that could enhance things in these games. We really haven't had a "true" remaster from R* on these three gta's since 2005......ouch  

 

That excludes SA's horrendous HD remaster that WarDrum (now GSG) did years back that makes the DE look even three times as worse than it should've been. It boggles my mind why the f*ck R* cannot properly remaster their sh*t. It's hilarious in a very sarcastic way because they simply don't give a flying f*ck about anything other than making money off of the crap they have now. They easily could have came together and choose one of their affiliated R* companies and took the time to properly put such a phenomenal product that the 3D era deserved in a very special way but holy f*ck is that wishful thinking not even seen in our dreams. It's something almost non-existent these days.

 

III,VC,SA are the reason where R* are at now. Not because of V and its horrendous sh*tty GTAO aspect of it. No damn respect for their first three legendary titles that put them as top doggs in the video game industry. At this point in time R* oughta leave IV and its fantastic episodes the f*ck alone.

 

Insane what money does to such companies, lmao. 

 

 

This! THIS!! Thank you, sir!

[Ondr4H]

2 hours ago, zakkaz said:

"dEfInItIvE eDiTiOn"

Definitive in 2004 already.

now in 2021 its

Defective edition.

Rockstar you lost all my respect...

Edited November 15, 2021 by Ondr4H

[Jezus Holy Christ]

 

 

Reminds me of iOS 4's fire emoji.

Edited November 15, 2021 by Jezus Holy Christ

[Ondr4H]

Whats my biggest problem with SA DE, they "fixed" that hilarious car pileup feature.

 

 

I was fascinated with when I first discovered this feature, amount of randomness was off limits.

[Mister Pink]

9 hours ago, Tycek said:

So why GSG didn't use literally every other version of GTA to base their "remaster" on it?

A very logical question and I totally agree with the sentiments. Apparently the only way they do remasters is from the PC version because supposedly some of the same bugs are inherited from the PC version - that's according to some other YouTuber I was watching. 

 

Rockstar have had more let-downs than wins lately. It's tipped more about 4 out of 5 things is a total L for Rockstar. Shark Cards... microtransactions in a freemium online game about pursuing money... re-releasing GTA V.. again.. disaster San Andreas mobile port replacing the original San Andreas, disastrous GTA Trilogy Definitive edition done by the same guys that completely botched the first SA mobile port. 

 

And what stage does Rockstar/T2 go.. Grove Street Games, you f*cked up.. again? Why doesn't such a rich company actually do the remaster themselves or pay for a reputable developer (if they must outsource it) to do it. 

 

Then they shut down mods that are doing a much better job. I'm really done with GTA. No wonder Houser, Lazlow and Benzies bailed or were squeezed out. I think something very nefarious is going on over there. Someone is call shots and making a string of incompetent decisions and whoever it is must have majority power because I can't see how anyone with anyone with an iota of respect for the Rockstar name would look at the trilogy and go "yep, that's great" or think Shark Cards was a good idea for the gamer. 

 

All these decisions don't sound like someone with a coherent mind, more like someone who's been on the nose bag. Like Kleinfeld from Carlito's Way, sniffing the white, making all these crazy decisions and just throwing away a really good thing away. 

 

The only win Rockstar has had in the last 8 years is RDR2 single player. 

[EvilShadow]

14 minutes ago, Mister Pink said:

I think something very nefarious is going on over there.

Man, my thoughts exactly!!!!! I mean, Dan Houser left, I remember thinking R* would dissolve or something like that when I heard he left

WTF I'M DEAD 

[Big_Smiley]

6 hours ago, Yoona said:

 

Lmaoo....Brought some tears to my eyes. Can't wait to watch everyones own version of why the DE sucks major f*cking ass. Damn near  beautiful to see all these negative reactions I tell ya   

 

26 minutes ago, EvilShadow said:

WTF I'M DEAD

I just can't enough how f*cking awful these models look, lmao. They did the Homie Tarnell from GSF so damn dirty peeps are comparing him to Patrick pin head star from Spongebob. Absolutely ridiculous. The one thing I'll say though we're having plenty of good ol' laughs with all of this outcome, lol. Keep em' coming lads  

[EvilShadow]

20 minutes ago, Big_Smiley said:

I just can't enough how f*cking awful these models look, lmao. They did the Homie Tarnell from GSF so damn dirty peeps are comparing him to Patrick pin head star from Spongebob. Absolutely ridiculous. The one thing I'll say though we're having plenty of good ol' laughs with all of this outcome, lol. Keep em' coming lads  

I can't react to posts again for a couple hours  
Denise was IT for me, but even Tarnell, I mean what the actual f*ck, should we expect to see Mr Krabs soon?  Maybe in that so-called *leaked* gta 4 remaster some people have been talking about on youtube?

[Muller147]

9 hours ago, Midnight Dutch said:

You would think with the growing amount of backlash there would be some attempt at damage control.  

 

Heh.  I said you *would* think.. this is Rockstar (in 2021) so, yeh.  

 

Perhaps they know there’s no saving it.

I think it's possibly they know they don't really have to for the majority.

The fact shark cards are still making them so much tells you how many people out there mindlessly play, give money to and don't question anything with a Rockstar logo on it.

I think all the big companies now see passionate gamers in the same way their shills do, 'whiny' 'entitled' and 'hating' because we dare to have some standards and ridiculously expect something in 2021 to be better than something from 2001/2002/2004.

You only have to look at other big games to see the general standard of gaming has gone downhill massively, bug riddled releases, crap soulless content, 'live service' and don't get me started with how piss poor AI in most big games is now.

[Lock n' Stock]

11 hours ago, Yoona said:

 

My lord, what have they done to these games? Such disrespect to the legacy, it's almost like a bad nightmare I can't wake up from. And the worst part about it is that Cockstar will pretend it's a success and carry on as if nothing happened.

[Bigglo145]

Why did they remodel clothing models and half ass them? They couldnt even make actual buttons, they just put yellow dots where they should be. This character 100% looks better in the original, like many other models. 

[PkUnzipper]

On 11/14/2021 at 3:47 AM, APB said:

Todd Howard is responsible for the greatest game ever made! Skyrim! If you don't buy it, you're just a hater! Skyrim inspired every game known to man, including GTA San Andreas...

 

And Alexa, Echo Dot, your IntelliSense Toaster/fridge/coffee maker/any IntelliSense appliance in your house, My Lil' Pony, TMNT, Transformers, Spiderman, Saints Row Reboot, and lately #[email protected]%&! GTA Demonic Edition to date 

[Kerminator369]

14 hours ago, Ivan1997GTA said:

So, have they fixed the missing fog in the sky yet, or not?

this is honestly one of my biggest complaints with the remaster of SA. Why can you see mt Chiliad from grove street? It just ruins the atmosphere the original games were aiming for being able to see all of the map with no haze, fog, or light refraction

2 hours ago, Bigglo145 said:

Why did they remodel clothing models and half ass them? They couldnt even make actual buttons, they just put yellow dots where they should be. This character 100% looks better in the original, like many other models. 

he looks like Aunt Jemima 

[Super Grunt 281]

23 hours ago, Big_Smiley said:

Literally speaking, the original XBOX versions of III,VC,SA were at one point one of the best versions to own on consoles on par with PC besides every awsome mod out there that could enhance things in these games. We really haven't had a "true" remaster from R* on these three gta's since 2005......ouch 

The Xbox version of GTA IiI was outright the best version of the 3 plateforms, with the way the characters are build on Xbox being the biggest thing in my opinion (vehicle models are also a strong point) . Vice City didn't received the same work as GTA III I believe.

 

That's called a god-tier port and R* Vienna members at the time can be proud, they should have done the trilogy if R* Vienna still existed.

[DarkLink1308]

They changed the color of the locked property model from red to blue... but the radar icon is still red!! What's the point of changing the locked property model to blue then???

 

[DarkLink1308]

Overall I  liked the implementation of the interior mapping technique (I don't know if this is the correct name for this technique, please correct me if I'm wrong), but they should be more careful when using this technique in interiors which we know very well what they look like. The interior mapping of Zero's store is showing the appearance of a Didier Sachs clothing store. Really that no one during the development noticed this? Feels like it was rushed, that's a big oversight.

Edited November 16, 2021 by DarkLink1308

[DarkLink1308]

They forgot to add the new HD map radar in the races menu, it still uses the original map radar in the original low resolution. Again, feels like it was rushed...

 

 

Edited November 16, 2021 by DarkLink1308

[RoughD]

Does the most famous franchise in the world deserves this kind of remaster? 

UPD: It was FAKE.

Edited November 16, 2021 by RoughD