San Andreas Definitive Edition Complaints & Criticisms Topic

[EvilShadow]

4 hours ago, Lioshenka said:

  

If you haven't seen this yet, then watch:

 

 

I LOVE THIS!!!

[Buckcote]

Was NPC drivers always that bad? Because i dont remember that bad. Npc cars constantly crashes to the walls, poles etc. 

[ElSaxo]

4 hours ago, Lioshenka said:

  

If you haven't seen this yet, then watch:

 

 

That close-up of CJ will haunt me in the sleep for life.

[sonnyC]

 

[Papayamamba]

My heart aches and at the same time, cries from joy seeing this:

 

 

 

It's insane how much better this thing looks, partly because of the fog / mist effects.

[KB24]

15 hours ago, Orthur said:

Maybe you and I have different standards for what's considered sh*t. For me the game is far from being sh*t. Sure, it has it's flaws and sometimes broken and buggy (though I've only encountered one bug in SA so far and I've done more than 10 missions).

 

It's literally a slightly better looking ps2 game with less music and worse bugs. And the ps2 version runs consistent but somehow in 2021 the game struggles on superior hardware. You were probably one of the ones hyping this disaster edition and can't admit that it's ass.

[Cheatz/Trickz]

The PS2 version is still the best one. The graphics may be of lower fidelity but they are more consistent in art style. 

 

I can’t see how people can look at these remasters and not think they are soulless.

[Darkel2001]

Time to stock up on backup PS2's I guess and possibly another CRT.

[SquoniX]

Major reason why the whole PC thing may have happened: I can hear most of the supposedly removed songs on my uh unofficial copy of the games. 'Video Killed the Radio Star' in VC, some songs in SA are also intact and working fine.

 

I think these might be removed if I try to use any patches later on. 

[KB24]

24 minutes ago, Darkel2001 said:

Time to stock up on backup PS2's I guess and possibly another CRT.

 

I've got a bc ps3 and the og ps2 copy of San Andreas. But man the controls are tough lol and it isn't the prettiest but at least I recognize Cj and crew.

[Lock n' Stock]

1 hour ago, Papayamamba said:

My heart aches and at the same time, cries from joy seeing this:

 

It's insane how much better this thing looks, partly because of the fog / mist effects.

We could have had it so good. 

 

But no, greed came first. F*ck R* and TT.

Edited November 15, 2021 by Lock n' Stock

[D9fred95]

35 minutes ago, Cheatz/Trickz said:

I can’t see how people can look at these remasters and not think they are soulless.

It's called being a "consoomer". Get hype for product, buy product, shill product, get hyped for next product, rinse and repeat.

 

If the Trilogy was on par with the 10th Anniversary/Steam edition of San Andreas, these people would still praise it.

[RaioMakuin]

1 hour ago, Papayamamba said:

My heart aches and at the same time, cries from joy seeing this:

 

 

 

It's insane how much better this thing looks, partly because of the fog / mist effects.

I can't watch that again

[Cheatz/Trickz]

 

48 minutes ago, Lock n' Stock said:

We could have had it so good. 

 

But no, greed came first. F*ck Rocksh*t.

 

To me, even that mod just looks soulless as well. It reminds me of the GTA 5 remaster, which was also soulless, and lacking in the distinctive, rough around the edges look of the original PS3 and 360 version. 

 

This isn’t nostalgia for lower res graphics, I can see how the fidelity of the mod is a massive jump in quality over a PS2 game, but in no way does that mod look remotely interesting.
 

I love me some amazing graphics but not at the cost of atmosphere and tone. 

Edited November 15, 2021 by Cheatz/Trickz

[Lock n' Stock]

3 minutes ago, Cheatz/Trickz said:

To me, even that mod just looks soulless as well. This isn’t nostalgia for the lower res graphics, I can see how the fidelity of the mod is a massive jump in quality, but in no way does that mod look remotely interesting.
 

I love me some amazing graphics but not at the cost of atmosphere and tone. 

I get your point. With some polish and refinement however, it could really be something special imo.

[Big_Smiley]

 

3 hours ago, KB24 said:

I've got a bc ps3 and the og ps2 copy of San Andreas. But man the controls are tough lol and it isn't the prettiest but at least I recognize Cj and crew.

Forget the graphics part really based on what we have now in comparison. The original versions worked by "Rockstar Games" are extremely hard to top off. You play the original old PS2 version with that nostalgia orange sky and compare to the DE it brings tears to our eyes to see what this goddamn company has become. Literally speaking, the original XBOX versions of III,VC,SA were at one point one of the best versions to own on consoles on par with PC besides every awsome mod out there that could enhance things in these games. We really haven't had a "true" remaster from R* on these three gta's since 2005......ouch  

 

That excludes SA's horrendous HD remaster that WarDrum (now GSG) did years back that makes the DE look even three times as worse than it should've been. It boggles my mind why the f*ck R* cannot properly remaster their sh*t. It's hilarious in a very sarcastic way because they simply don't give a flying f*ck about anything other than making money off of the crap they have now. They easily could have came together and choose one of their affiliated R* companies and took the time to properly put such a phenomenal product that the 3D era deserved in a very special way but holy f*ck is that wishful thinking not even seen in our dreams. It's something almost non-existent these days.

 

III,VC,SA are the reason where R* are at now. Not because of V and its horrendous sh*tty GTAO aspect of it. No damn respect for their first three legendary titles that put them as top doggs in the video game industry. At this point in time R* oughta leave IV and its fantastic episodes the f*ck alone.

 

Insane what money does to such companies, lmao. 

 

 

Edited November 15, 2021 by Big_Smiley

[KB24]

11 minutes ago, Big_Smiley said:

 

Forget the graphics part really based on what we have now in comparison. The original versions worked by "Rockstar Games" are extremely hard to top off. You play the original old PS2 version with that nostalgia orange sky and compare to the DE it brings tears to our eyes to see what this goddamn company has become. Literally speaking, the original XBOX versions of III,VC,SA were at one point one of the best versions to own on consoles on par with PC besides every awsome mod out there that could enhance things in these games. We really haven't had a "true" remaster from R* on these three gta's since 2005......ouch  

 

That excludes SA's horrendous HD remaster that WarDrum (now GSG) did years back that makes the DE look even three times as worse than it should've been. It boggles my mind why the f*ck R* cannot properly remaster their sh*t. It's hilarious in a very sarcastic way because they simply don't give a flying f*ck about anything other than making money off of the crap they have now. They easily could have came together and choose one of their affiliated R* companies and took the time to properly put such a phenomenal product that the 3D era deserved in a very special way but holy f*ck is that wishful thinking not even seen in our dreams. It's something almost non-existent these days.

 

III,VC,SA are the reason where R* are at now. Not because of V and its horrendous sh*tty GTAO aspect of it. No damn respect for their first three legendary titles that put them as top doggs in the video game industry. At this point in time R* oughta leave IV and its fantastic episodes the f*ck alone.

 

Insane what money does to such companies, lmao. 

 

 

 

Yes it's sad to see them crap on their best games of the series. No excuse why it shouldn't have been remade from the ground up and bring it to hd standards. All they care about is selling shark cards to 12 yr old idiots on gta online. And gta 6 is probably 4-5 yrs away and they'll pull the same crap as gta5 and release em on probably on Ps5 and 6 so a new one ain't coming till like 2040 smh.

[SageFan]

This game really did not need to be released. If it won't match the standards of a 2008 game, why even bother? 

Just port the games to current gen and fix the perceived flaws with the controls for console and that's all that needed to be done.

 

inb4 oh this a remaster

 

If they knew that they were selling an outdated product then why sell it in the first place? These games are still from the early 2000s. It'll take a little bit more than just flashy graphics to put them on par with new products. 

 

This just reeks of cash grab. Anyone who bought this is an idiot.

[RaioMakuin]

On 11/14/2021 at 2:51 AM, _MK_ said:

Respect to this guy unlike some well known from Youtube/Twitter sellouts keeping their mouth shut about this.

People aren't that dumb tho, Is not like the people who notice everything that is wrong with this remaster are only in this thread. 

 

This is from one of those comparison videos..

Edited November 15, 2021 by RaioMakuin

[_MK_]

10 hours ago, RaioMakuin said:

People aren't that dumb tho, Is not like the people who notice everything that is wrong with this remaster are only in this thread. 

 

This is from one of those comparison videos..

Indeed everyone knows how bad the Trilogy is, it's literally worse than Cyberpunk2077 so no surprise how noticeable it's going to be be, my point is some individuals on Twitter and some popular YouTube channels are staying quiet just so they remain on that Rockstar fanboy side instead of keeping it real informing people to stay away from this thing as it's total garbage at this point and doesn't deserve one single dollar.

 

True fans would advise everyone to stay away from this thing and get a refund if possible, Rockstar and Take2 need a lesson about doing such trash unfinished releases and the only way we can do that is with our wallets but hey according to some "the game is amazing" "lets do missions and comparisons and COMPLETELY ignore the sh*t ton of old and new bugs and every other unfinished lazy work for this over priced half assed remaster".

 

Personally i ain't going to touch this thing, better get busy with other games until it gets properly fixed which I'm guessing is going to take several updates and that's if they intend to completely fix this thing at all, then just then i might consider getting this when it's on sale or I'll just give them the middle finger and get it for free.

Edited November 15, 2021 by _MK_

[MagicManGotNoJams]

I do understand people's complaints and every sh*t in this game is inexcusable but there is one thing that annoys about people is that they say "i paid 60 bucks for this game" and then is referring to only 1 game like no you paid 60 for 3 games which means if you were to buy only 1 game (if that was possible) you would pay 20 bucks. Like i didn't see people complain about paying 15 bucks for this game on the ps store when that was still there. That is literally the only point that annoys me about people's complaints otherwise the rest of the complaints are completely valid and i support a lot of them even tho i haven't encountered anything bad yet in the game personally and have been enjoying it a lot.

[Cheesy Vaginas]

Honestly, as much as I would hope they would patch this thing up, I feel they took the biggest shortcut of all from the very start when they decided to port the mobile versions. This thing was doomed from the beginning and there's no saving it at this point. Truly a shame what they have done to the GTA legacy. 

[_MK_]

10 hours ago, MagicManGotNoJams said:

I do understand people's complaints and every sh*t in this game is inexcusable but there is one thing that annoys about people is that they say "i paid 60 bucks for this game" and then is referring to only 1 game like no you paid 60 for 3 games which means if you were to buy only 1 game (if that was possible) you would pay 20 bucks. Like i didn't see people complain about paying 15 bucks for this game on the ps store when that was still there. That is literally the only point that annoys me about people's complaints otherwise the rest of the complaints are completely valid and i support a lot of them even tho i haven't encountered anything bad yet in the game personally and have been enjoying it a lot.

Oh really? then why is Rockstar forcing people to pay 60$ for the Trilogy as one game instead of giving the option to buy these three games separately?

 

Second it's not a new game.

 

Third what exactly did they do to charge 60$ for the Trilogy? all they basically did is replace vegetation, textures (some textures are upscaled fine, some are upscaled like dogsh*t and a few are replaced), shadows (they're not even that good), dogsh*t characters, lighting and something here and another there, not to mention the old bugs are there while adding ton of new bugs and everything else got ported just the same without a single change from the originals, basically it's a unfinished bugged half assed remaster done by a cheap amateur studio and this according to you deserves 60$? yeah right.

 

BTW think if you want to praise Rockstar for the 60$ rip off you're in the wrong thread.

Edited November 15, 2021 by _MK_

[Pedinhuh]

31 minutes ago, MagicManGotNoJams said:

no you paid 60 for 3 games which means if you were to buy only 1 game (if that was possible) you would pay 20 bucks.

Go on and tell us how can you buy GTA VC DE or III DE by just paying $20 then.

 

Spoiler alert: You can't.

 

34 minutes ago, MagicManGotNoJams said:

Like i didn't see people complain about paying 15 bucks for this game on the ps store when that was still there

That doesn't excuse how overpriced this trilogy is, also the version you speak of is the remastered garbage made by the same developers which was also ridiculously overpriced.

 

For reference, the original SA on Steam was going for $5 before it was taken down.

 

You're eating up the same kind of nonsensical argument that R* makes when they say that GTA Online is a separate GTA game from V that comes free with the purchase(at least up until they release the standalone version).

[MagicManGotNoJams]

2 minutes ago, Pedinhuh said:

Go on and tell us how can you buy GTA VC DE or III DE by just paying $20 then.

 

Spoiler alert: You can't.

 

That doesn't excuse how overpriced this trilogy is, also the version you speak of is the remastered garbage made by the same developers which was also ridiculously overpriced.

 

For reference, the original SA on Steam was going for $5 before it was taken down.

 

You're eating up the same kind of nonsensical argument that R* makes when they say that GTA Online is a separate GTA game from V that comes free with the purchase(at least up until they release the standalone version).

 

5 minutes ago, _MK_ said:

Oh really? then why is Rockstar forcing people to pay 60$ for the Trilogy as one game instead of giving the option to buy these three games separately?

 

Second it's not a new game.

 

Third what exactly did they do to charge 60$ for the Trilogy? all they basically did is replace vegetation, textures(some textures are upscaled fine, some are upscaled like dogsh*t and a few are replaced), shadows(they're not even that good), dogsh*t characters, lighting and something here and another there, not to mention the old bugs are there while adding ton of new bugs and everything else got ported just the same without a single change from the originals, basically it's a unfinished bugged half assed remaster done by a cheap amateur studio and this according to you deserves 60$? yeah right.

 

BTW think if you want to praise Rockstar for the 60$ rip off you're in the wrong thread.

did you guys miss where i said that IF it was possible that it would be 20 bucks each? like i clearly know it's not available separately which is a sh*t practice i was clearly just stating that people didn't bat an eye at buying the old games for 45 bucks in total that's literally all i was saying. I still hate Rockstar and they are bottom-bottom-bottom sh*t tier of a company also i never said that it's good that we had to pay 60 i'm just saying it was 60 for 3 games that is literally all i was saying. Also me mentioning that it's 60 for 3 games =/= praising Rockstar literally has no correlation 

[elmaso69]

Shattered its total dogsh*t, glad I didn’t pay for San Andreas though. If that’s regarded as the best of the 3, how terrible is III and VC? 
asides a seizure inducing rain cycle (I know it’s been said 100000 times) but f*ck me, it’s like watching and feeling a thousand needles stab you in they eyes. 
 

but I must say the absolute worst is the vehicles, the f*cked up sounds that splutter from them as they stop accelerating, the windows that look painted on the tail lights that only become lit when braking? That’s just not giving a f*ck.

the brake lights come on when hitting the hand brake for f*ck sakes, last I remember pulling up the handbrake in my car the f*cking taillights didn’t come on.  
 

man R* and GSG can run naked backwards through a field of dicks. 
 

 

[paddymcg]

There was a time when Rockstar cared about the quality of the product that they put their name on.

 

Those days are long gone now as far as I'm concerned. The fact that they would even consider giving GSG another shot after how badly they f*cked up SA before just proves they don't care at all.

 

I'm officially done with Rockstar now, they will never get another penny off me as long as I live. Even if their next release is the greatest game to ever exist I will look to get it through alternative means.

 

In the words of George W Bush "Fool me once, shame - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again"

[Lock n' Stock]

1 hour ago, Cheesy Vaginas said:

Honestly, as much as I would hope they would patch this thing up, I feel they took the biggest shortcut of all from the very start when they decided to port the mobile versions. This thing was doomed from the beginning and there's no saving it at this point. Truly a shame what they have done to the GTA legacy. 

Yeah, no amount of patches will EVER fix this thing, it's a lost cause. Anyone who says otherwise is at best deluding themselves and at worst defending a cynical cash-grab of the worst kind. You'd figure Rockstar would've done a little more for the games that practically MADE them who they are today, but no, they simply just don't care anymore. Sad times to be a GTA fan indeed.

Edited November 15, 2021 by Lock n' Stock

[Tycek]

2 hours ago, Cheesy Vaginas said:

Honestly, as much as I would hope they would patch this thing up, I feel they took the biggest shortcut of all from the very start when they decided to port the mobile versions. This thing was doomed from the beginning and there's no saving it at this point. Truly a shame what they have done to the GTA legacy. 

That's the thing that baffles me the most in this whole sh*tshow. We know and they probably should, that mobile port wasn't anything worth writing home about. It introduced more bugs than it fixed and practically brought noting good to the table (except separated fingers for characters). So why GSG didn't use literally every other version of GTA to base their "remaster" on it? They have original PS2, PC, Xbox made by R* Vienna (with much better models for cars and characters). Instead they chose messed up foundations, built cheap building on it and now there is big surprise that walls are skewed and roof is leaking. How amateurish they can be? 

 

Only reason are the songs that were already cut from mobile version of the game, but it's not life change that couldn't be made again, especially that we already know, that additional songs were just blocked via simple script. 

Edited November 15, 2021 by Tycek

[Matt_STS]

43 minutes ago, Tycek said:

That's the thing that baffles me the most in this whole sh*tshow. We know and they probably should, that mobile port wasn't anything worth writing home about. It introduced more bugs than it fixed and practically brought noting good to the table (except separated fingers for characters). So why GSG didn't use literally every other version of GTA to base their "remaster" on it? They have original PS2, PC, Xbox made by R* Vienna (with much better models for cars and characters). Instead they chose messed up foundations, built cheap building on it and now there is big surprise that walls are skewed and roof is leaking. How amateurish they can be? 

 

Only reason are the songs that were already cut from mobile version of the game, but it's not life change that couldn't be made again, especially that we already know, that additional songs were just blocked via simple script. 

When the remasters were first teased, I was hoping they would use the great Xbox versions as the base and further improve upon them, I guess that was just too logical.

It's quite sad to see that this is how these games are now