DYOM and the GTA Definitive Edition

[ArCana]

So, we all know that the Definitive Edition for the golden trilogy is coming. From what I heard, the developers began taking down most of the mods for GTA San Andreas (at least the graphical ones, in order to push people to buy the remaster).

DYOM is already dead enough as it is. The release of a remastered game on a new engine can either mean it will be killed off officially, or it can mean a new beginning for it.

As we know, the creators of DYOM have stopped working on it. They also don't want people to edit DYOM in any way. We already have people releasing addons for DYOM which are very good and show that they're working on it.

The Definitive Edition will be made in Unreal Engine, which from what I heard is pretty easy to mod, so perhaps the people making addons can come forward and create a whole new DYOM mod for the Definitive Edition.

What's your opinion on this? Will some of you stick to the old version of San Andreas for DYOM? I know I will just cause my computer can't run the Definitive Edition lol.

[Horus Publishing]

Yes, because shi** ass TakeTwo would ban mods immeditely from the game, game will be probably no-mod friendly so there's no way (or maybe people will find a way to install mods but idk how) and people who made DYOM are unactive rn so don't expect / wish there will be new DYOM release. Maybe somebody else but idk, everyone is afraid of TakeTwo suing them.

 

I'll only buy GTA 3 because never played it (only saw it)

Edited November 10, 2021 by Horus Publishing

[The John David]

I couldn't agree more! Sticking to the old version is more better than remastered one. I don't care if the developers taking all the mods down in every website, including this DYOM, as long as the old game exist like San Andreas, it's more than enough to me. Honestly, it's such a shame that some third-party mods can resolve countless bugs and issues in three games and even adds some most exciting fun part that imaginative or expert coding people they're creating, makes the game delivers more fun and experience unique gameplay styles.

 

I'm fine for me if they want to reset everything. Only if this Trilogy or whatever edition is this, must resolve countless issues and bugs they didn't bother to fix did in the old versions, without installing any third-party mods. If not, and just remastered three 3D era of GTA's for "money" and doesn't care fixing everything? Then screw that? I can't afford to purchase that Trilogy Edition. This kinda reminds me from CAPCOM developers being controversial for their fans selling a literal broken games like RE5 or the remastered one without modding, no offense. Glad I move on out there!

[zeko]

take town wont take the mods made in the trilogy as they want their old school fanbase to move to the new 

plus, itll take a good while aka literal years to have something like DYOM is today in the old version

so modders shouldnt worry if they decide to move to the trilogy, which is exactly what take two wants because it makes them profit

 

 

[M316]

Tbh only way i see DYOM even functioning on DE is if some Russian advanced coder and moder decides to do that for us, nothing against them lmao it is just kind of the meta cough cough SIZZ & SKICC cough cough

But hey, i wont even suggest cracking the games unless modders find their way into it and decides to add new models instead of the plastic barbie ones we have, better textures, reflections, bug fixes, and quality of life stuff that we have in the OG one like modloader, CLEO among other stuff but optimized for DE. Cant believe RE3, REVC, United, and Underground died for this piece of crap, smh.

Edited November 11, 2021 by M316

[ZeroRaxo]

17 hours ago, ArCana said:

I know I will just cause my computer can't run the Definitive Edition lol.

idk your specs, but you most likely can run it at least below 60 fps in low settings and 720p

[TPaXePa]

Doubt we should have DYOM in the new GTA DE. Remember what the T2 did with the modifications. I don't know what you have, but on a popular Russian-language site, several mods for GTA 4 were recently deleted.
 

About what DYOM should be created by our guys from Russia. I am personally acquainted with them and I know that they are unlikely to do it.
After all, they are also unhappy with the remaster and the current modding situation.

(sorry if my translation is wrong)

[Horus Publishing]

8 hours ago, TPaXePa said:

Doubt we should have DYOM in the new GTA DE. Remember what the T2 did with the modifications. I don't know what you have, but on a popular Russian-language site, several mods for GTA 4 were recently deleted.
 

About what DYOM should be created by our guys from Russia. I am personally acquainted with them and I know that they are unlikely to do it.
After all, they are also unhappy with the remaster and the current modding situation.

(sorry if my translation is wrong)

 

It's actually very, very good. Yeah, it's a bad idea. None of the less, if somebody's brave enough to not to be sued by Take Two, go ahead. 

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take town wont take the mods made in the trilogy as they want their old school fanbase to move to the new 

plus, itll take a good while aka literal years to have something like DYOM is today in the old version

 

I don't think so. They're unpredictable - they can ban anything. If anything i want GTA LC Stories to be released on PC (believe its the same engine that GTA:SA uses) so somebody would be able to do DYOM there maybe, idk. That would be cool for us.

 

[EDIT] Yeah, Take Two took another mod out. Nice Take Two!  

 

Edited November 12, 2021 by Horus Publishing

[ArCana]

On 11/11/2021 at 5:36 AM, M316 said:

Tbh only way i see DYOM even functioning on DE is if some Russian advanced coder and moder decides to do that for us, nothing against them lmao it is just kind of the meta cough cough SIZZ & SKICC cough cough

But hey, i wont even suggest cracking the games unless modders find their way into it and decides to add new models instead of the plastic barbie ones we have, better textures, reflections, bug fixes, and quality of life stuff that we have in the OG one like modloader, CLEO among other stuff but optimized for DE. Cant believe RE3, REVC, United, and Underground died for this piece of crap, smh.

Honestly. I was just going to download united after months because I was in the mood of making some united dyom missions, and when I get on the site I find out it was taken down months ago. The remaster isn't even that good. After so many years, they have finally achieved the impossible: they ruined the golden GTA trilogy.

[Horus Publishing]

11 hours ago, ArCana said:

Honestly. I was just going to download united after months because I was in the mood of making some united dyom missions, and when I get on the site I find out it was taken down months ago. The remaster isn't even that good. After so many years, they have finally achieved the impossible: they ruined the golden GTA trilogy.

 

We need to remember that not Rockstar broke it, Grove Street Games (a.k.a War Drum Studios a.k.a people who broke PS3 / XBOX version) broke it. Honestly idk if Rockstar even care about those games being remastered that way, they just want money so they approve every garbage they put out, and here we go - now its taken out of PC because of bugs (read eurogamer article)

[ArCana]

On 11/13/2021 at 10:37 AM, Horus Publishing said:

 

We need to remember that not Rockstar broke it, Grove Street Games (a.k.a War Drum Studios a.k.a people who broke PS3 / XBOX version) broke it. Honestly idk if Rockstar even care about those games being remastered that way, they just want money so they approve every garbage they put out, and here we go - now its taken out of PC because of bugs (read eurogamer article)

I just hope they do the right thing and put the classic versions back on sale. Out of the new ones, the only one I'd probably buy would be Vice City.

[Springfield]

The great evolution of GTA:SA modding community took years to figure out new implementations. I doubt it if definitive edition would get the same attention of modders as the standard one, but hey, we are already watching some fixes there already; the standard version would still play a vital role here to give directions to the modders revamping all those mods to make it compatible with definitive edition or even better (since Definitive Edition supports a whole new engine). 

 

Now coming to the point here, Would there be a new DYOM for DE? No one is sure about that, but we have seen something familiar with other GTAs (like GTA V build your own mission). Even if there is such a mod that allows us to make new missions, I doubt if it would get an independent "sub-forum" here just like DYOM. On the other hand, the 40k+ missions and almost 2k storylines... most authors out there have potato PCs so the idea of running DE has already been faded away for them. 

 

[Horus Publishing]

On 11/18/2021 at 9:32 PM, ArCana said:

I just hope they do the right thing and put the classic versions back on sale. Out of the new ones, the only one I'd probably buy would be Vice City.

 

Rockstar already apologized and they'll bring back old versions, so ez. Take Two stocks went down so they need to do something

Edited November 20, 2021 by Horus Publishing
Many mistakes LOL

[Horus Publishing]

They just released CLEO for Definitive Edition, so maybe..

 

 

[Rytuklis]

Hey there folks,

 

Long time no see.

 

It is 2021. San Andreas is old. Heck, even the most popular SAMP servers are dying out these days. The SAMP creator himself has abandoned the project and state "it is not worth creating a new SAMP server by now". The community I played since 2009 is currently pretty much dead or on life support. People are getting better hardware, and moving on to better games. Frankly, people who stuck with SA back when IV was released because they had incapable PCs probably got better computers by now and moved on.

 

SA was still very popular when IV was released because IV was really graphically groundbreaking at the time, and required a very powerful PC to play. It is no wonder that a sizeable part of the community did not have a good enough PC back then and stuck with SA, hence why mods like DYOM and SAMP still maintained popularity.

 

But now, with GTA V being out for almost seven years now, I doubt there are a lot of people left who can no longer run the newer games, so they moved on. 

 

Now, why would you want DYOM for DE at all? It's essentially the same game, looking a little better, but playing much worse. I doubt that any modding scene (other than the fixes already available) is going to appear for those games, seeing how they are essentially just the classics. I think with time maybe some sort of compatibility layer that will port mods over to the DE versions will appear. Do note that DE modding seems to be much easier and doesnt require to replace source files.

 

The question here is why hasn't this community moved over to V yet. There are actually more than one mod for that game that do the same thing that DYOM does, only that it does not seem to have any community around it like DYOM. By actually creating a community for it, we could build on a much bigger player base and enjoy mods that are actually supported to this day, no longer antiquated and are not abandoned by their creators. "Build A Mission" and "Mission Maker" are two of the most robust examples, and I think there are even a few more out there.

 

 

Edited November 28, 2021 by Rytuklis

[Stardust101]

 

Edited because I no longer agree with Rytuklis' opinion.

Edited January 23 by Stardust101

[Shantanu08]

On 12/3/2021 at 5:22 AM, Stardust101 said:

I'll still have to pay money for the game itself.

Ah you should've bought the game when it was listed free on Epic Games. It was not necessary to download it right away. You just had to confirm the purchase

[Stardust101]

5 hours ago, Shantanu08 said:

Ah you should've bought the game when it was listed free on Epic Games. It was not necessary to download it right away. You just had to confirm the purchase

 

I didn't have a PC to run the game at the time genius... And I still don't have it...

[VankeX]

People still play DYOM and their community in discord is pretty active even if definitive edition of SA is out. So because of SA's new unreal engine modders say it will be pretty hard to mod the game. So people still play normal SA and game along with DYOM is Definitely not dead.