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How is Rockstar Games woke?


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universetwisters

They aren't sleeping anymore, they're woke. Wake up Rockstar, you're late for an appointment!

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Literally no one says that any of the GTA games were woke. But the remaster and the next GTA will likely be woke bs because that's whats trendy now

11 hours ago, MrBreak16 said:

These days, people say that everything is woke. People are stupid

 

These days everything is woke, you just have to compare current movies, shows, games with the ones 10+ years ago and the difference is obvious

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They were the first gaming company to include a racially diverse cast of playable characters (half of which were female) in a crime game before being woke was even a thing, showing that everybody, no matter the race, ethnicity, or gender, is equally as able to become a lowlife degenerate and commit the most violent crimes known to humanity. That's woke in levels that even the most woke self-proclaimed Social Justice Warrior®  belonging to the highest number of oppressed minorities (accepted as such according to the current 2021 woke sjw narrative standards) who is part of the safest of the safest safe spaces can't even begin to comprehend.

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4 hours ago, Valiant ENT CEO said:

They blacked out the gta online servers like a year ago or something? I think it was only for a few hours to "protest" against police brutality and stand with the black community... How woke can you get? 🤢

They always have been.

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What's funny is that the whole "woke" thing just seems to be a buzzphrase for something that already existed. IMO, to me it boils down to perception... and bias.

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10 hours ago, CynicalMexican said:

 

I think it's a knee jerk reaction that was partly influenced by the disastrous Saints Row rebrand. It just gets thrown around to incite anger or complain about political correctness.

 

This isn't Ghostbusters 2016 or Saints Row though. The games largely look the same. It was one minor detail that seemingly became the whole argument. 

 

We don't have more than what we've been shown, so it's hard to make a judgment.

 

I think it's worth pointing out that much of the offensive content in the Mafia series has been left intact.

 

Unpopular opinion but a twist on WW2 isn't such a bad thing. Because you might as well have the same boring WW2 game.

 

That, and the Soviet Union did have field female soldiers on the front. It's not such a crazy idea, really.

I agree, a twist on WW2 games is something that breathes fresh air into an otherwise overly done topic (the WW2 shooter boom of the 2000s comes to mind)

 

Also the United Kingdom & United States both had female Anti-Air & Auxiliary units respectively, many women died in combat during world war two, which is an unfortunately overlooked part of history. Not to mention the female European resistance fighters that fought in occupied countries.

 

Japan also had an all female defense unit during the battle of okinawa, many of them died in combat & through suicide.

 

  

7 hours ago, Valiant ENT CEO said:

They blacked out the gta online servers like a year ago or something? I think it was only for a few hours to "protest" against police brutality and stand with the black community... How woke can you get? 🤢

 

So, the take away from how you worded it and added that sick emoji is that, you hate the black community?

 

  

5 hours ago, Journey_95 said:

Literally no one says that any of the GTA games were woke. But the remaster and the next GTA will likely be woke bs because that's whats trendy now

 

These days everything is woke, you just have to compare current movies, shows, games with the ones 10+ years ago and the difference is obvious

 

No, not really...

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_and_video_games

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_nasty

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entertainment_Software_Rating_Board

 

There are way more f*cked up games, movies, etc now a days compared to the past.

 

this game would have been outright banned in the 90s/00's, yet was able to be released around 6 years ago due to the relaxing of regulations compared to 10 years ago.

 

Not to mention the amount of pr0n games that exist publicly now, compared to 10, 20, 30 years ago.

 

 

  

2 hours ago, Zello said:

They always have been.

 

That was an ingame representation on a real life event that the game was depicting (Tenpenny's acquittal) which mirrored the Rodney King Police acquittal that ended up leading to the 1992 LA Riots.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots

 

 

 

  

2 hours ago, CynicalMexican said:

What's funny is that the whole "woke" thing just seems to be a buzzphrase for something that already existed. IMO, to me it boils down to perception... and bias.

 

Indeed, it is something that is parroted through out the world wide web, mainly among those who weren't alive through the hellscape that was the 90s.

 

 

 

 

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@Wakka387 I hate the way some corporations and public figures tried to "Rush to the support of" the black communities in general after George Floyd died at the hands of the police. No I don't hate black communities. It just felt weird.. Like why didnt you care before? Kinda hard to explain.

 

If I were black? I'd be really f*ckin sick of certain "leaders" and heads of country and state... Etc.. This conversation here is pointless so nevermind. You can just think what you want.

 

I'll know for sure if Rockstar is WOKE after playing through this trilogy remaster. Which will be the real kicker for me. 🤢

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1 hour ago, Valiant ENT CEO said:

@Wakka387 I hate the way some corporations and public figures tried to "Rush to the support of" the black communities in general after George Floyd died at the hands of the police. No I don't hate black communities. It just felt weird.. Like why didnt you care before? Kinda hard to explain.

 

If I were black? I'd be really f*ckin sick of certain "leaders" and heads of country and state... Etc.. This conversation here is pointless so nevermind. You can just think what you want.

 

I'll know for sure if Rockstar is WOKE after playing through this trilogy remaster. Which will be the real kicker for me. 🤢

You fail to understand the injustices that were done against black people in the history of american culture and why it was important for visibility to be placed on the african american communities that were dealing with systematic racism in the mid 2010s.

 

It is better late than never in this case, also it had less to do with "George Floyd" and more to do with the situation being a "Tipping point". Not to mention that it was the death of "Michael Brown" and subsequent

 

Through out the 2010s there were MANY black people getting killed by police

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Freddie_Gray

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Michael_Brown

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Mohamed_Bah

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Rekia_Boyd

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_John_Crawford_III

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Ronald_Greene

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Timothy_Russell_and_Malissa_Williams

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Barry_Deloatch

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Eric_Garner

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_John_Geer

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Javier_Ambler

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Bijan_Ghaisar

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_shooting_of_Eric_Harris

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Aiyana_Jones

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Charles_Kinsey

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Holley

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elijah_McClain

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Laquan_McDonald

 

All of these, in combination with the death of George Floyd are an example of poor policing in the United States, and why protests have been happening.

 

It should not be a political issue, it is a civil rights & systemic issue, and yet, Dipsh*ts have made it such.

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6 minutes ago, SageFan said:

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This was him in VCS

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11 hours ago, universetwisters said:

They aren't sleeping anymore, they're woke. Wake up Rockstar, you're late for an appointment!

In social context, "woke" is such an ugly word. I prefer "extrayal". The X makes it sound cool.

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I don't know how certain people would react to this particular mission from VCS if Rockstar made it now for GTAVI.

Remember, this is Rockstar from 2006.

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It's been fairly civil so far, but it's just getting a little tetchy between a few contributors.

 

I'm not going to offer a second warning, I'm just locking it!  We're not having arguments over a topic that is designed to create them....

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10 minutes ago, Uncle Sikee Atric said:

It's been fairly civil so far, but it's just getting a little tetchy between a few contributors.

 

I haven't seen anybody lose their sh*t at all unless posts were deleted lol 

 

3 hours ago, Wakka387 said:

You fail to understand the injustices that were done against black people in the history of american culture and why it was important for visibility to be placed on the african american communities that were dealing with systematic racism in the mid 2010s.

 

I don't think it was bad that they expressed solidarity, but at the same time most companies really couldn't give a f*ck about civil rights issues and do it just for PR. 
Given that R* has always been against police brutality, I'm leaning towards thinking that their sentiment might actually be genuine, but I honestly believe posting black squares on social media isn't the way to change things. 

Going out to vote, protest and start petitions is how you change things, and if companies really cared that much, I think they'd do more for the cause. 

 

13 hours ago, Journey_95 said:

Literally no one says that any of the GTA games were woke. But the remaster and the next GTA will likely be woke bs because that's whats trendy now

 

R* has removed confederate flags from GTA 5 years ago and left the rest of the game untouched. 
I don't think the removal of the flag is reflective of any significant changes. I agree it's absurd but we don't have enough evidence yet to say that Rockstar might've gone overly PC. 

I don't even know if that decision was R* or Dundee, considering they seem to be quite the progressive studio.

 

13 hours ago, Journey_95 said:

These days everything is woke, you just have to compare current movies, shows, games with the ones 10+ years ago and the difference is obvious

 

Not everything. I also f*cking despise the out-of-touch millennial writing in movies and shows where they try to shoehorn in "unusual" characters that just end up being a stereotype and incredibly cringy and unfitting dialogue about the patriarchy.

I agree, a lot of new shows employ this bullsh*t unrealistic writing to pander to Twitter kids, but it's not all of them, I think those are just a minority that sticks out like a sore thumb, and we have no reason to believe any new R* games will follow that line until proven otherwise. 

I don't give a sh*t if they remove the confederate flag from Phil's shirt as long as they don't touch much else in the game, I only expect them to make believable characters and dialogue in their next games, and I don't have a reason to believe they won't.

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3 minutes ago, MetroFloaty said:

I haven't seen anybody lose their sh*t at all unless posts were deleted lol

 

That's what happened....

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37 minutes ago, MetroFloaty said:

 

I haven't seen anybody lose their sh*t at all unless posts were deleted lol 

 

 

User I was having a discussion with not so subtly said "If you don't like it, go back to africa" along with other bad takes, after my previous post about the police brutality stuff.

 

The mod that issued the warning yeeted his post.

 

37 minutes ago, MetroFloaty said:

 

I don't think it was bad that they expressed solidarity, but at the same time most companies really couldn't give a f*ck about civil rights issues and do it just for PR. 

Given that R* has always been against police brutality, I'm leaning towards thinking that their sentiment might actually be genuine, but I honestly believe posting black squares on social media isn't the way to change things. 

Going out to vote, protest and start petitions is how you change things, and if companies really cared that much, I think they'd do more for the cause.

 

Maybe so, but it is still great for visibility to have these issues laid out into the open by corporations with large followings. The black squares thing was pretty lackluster, I agree. 🤷🏾‍♂️but beggars cannot be choosers in this sort of thing.

 

There are many homegrown movements that have gained traction due to the amount of awareness generated by the corporate social media posts. While it may be a PR move, it does help in the long run.

1 hour ago, Zapper said:

I don't know how certain people would react to this particular mission from VCS if Rockstar made it now for GTAVI.

Remember, this is Rockstar from 2006.

I honestly don't think people would care all that much considering they are being painted as antagonist.

At most you would probably have some weird person claim that "They are trying to say it is ok to kill whites" or whatever other dog whistle fits their narrative. 🤷🏾‍♂️

 

 

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Jezus Holy Christ

I encourage every internet fascist reading this to take five minutes out of their busy workday of hating women and minorities online, to google "statue of happiness". There's no way you've played that Rockstar game and still call them woke.

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1 hour ago, Jezus Holy Christ said:

I encourage every internet fascist reading this to take five minutes out of their busy workday of hating women and minorities online, to google "statue of happiness". There's no way you've played that Rockstar game and still call them woke.


GTA IV came out like 13 years ago, lots of things were different back then and liberals didn't worship Hillary Clinton as much. No way would something like that happen now, only one who has trashed her since 2016 are Trump supporters. The next GTA game will  just make fun of Trump non stop

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6 minutes ago, Journey_95 said:


GTA IV came out like 13 years ago, lots of things were different back then and liberals didn't worship Hillary Clinton as much. No way would something like that happen now, only one who has trashed her since 2016 are Trump supporters. The next GTA game will  just make fun of Trump non stop

 

Wait Hillary Clinton is still relevant?

 

I just hope they make fun of Pena Nieto and AMLO. If not, I'm suing R* games!

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13 minutes ago, Journey_95 said:

GTA IV came out like 13 years ago, lots of things were different back then and liberals didn't worship Hillary Clinton as much. No way would something like that happen now, only one who has trashed her since 2016 are Trump supporters. The next GTA game will  just make fun of Trump non stop

 

I don't know about worshipping but she was considered the Democrats' "favorite" in the primaries wasn't she?

And Trump jokes are already played out. Milked to death.

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IMO there is a thin line between self-aware and 'woke', in the way one pushes a viewpoint.

Most of Rockstars' games have been self-aware in some form, but I would say that RDRII got the closest to that thin line.

The issue is that as the older devs retire or leave, the younger, more ideologically charged generations will take their places, and what might be a slow drift suddenly becomes a fast shift.

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7 minutes ago, jje1000 said:

The issue is that as the older devs retire or leave, the younger, more ideologically charged generations will take their places, and what might be a slow drift suddenly becomes a fast shift.

Exactly. And there's an extremely high chance that the "younger, more ideologically charged" generations are more easily offended.

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13 minutes ago, jje1000 said:

IMO there is a thin line between self-aware and 'woke', in the way one pushes a viewpoint.

Most of Rockstars' games have been self-aware in some form, but I would say that RDRII got the closest to that thin line.

The issue is that as the older devs retire or leave, the younger, more ideologically charged generations will take their places, and what might be a slow drift suddenly becomes a fast shift.

care to give out some examples?

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I just hope GTA VI will make fun of both Democrats and Republicans not just Republicans like many western games do nowadays (looking at you Ubisoft)

 

2 hours ago, Jezus Holy Christ said:

I encourage every internet fascist reading this to take five minutes out of their busy workday of hating women and minorities online, to google "statue of happiness". There's no way you've played that Rockstar game and still call them woke.

Saying people are fascist and women/minorities haters for not liking woke idealogy is worth of reporting your post.

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5 minutes ago, Yoona said:

Saying people are fascist and women/minorities haters for not liking woke idealogy is worth of reporting your post.

 

And the report is noted, but compared to what was hidden earlier, believe me, it's tame....

 

The entire geopolitical system is due a damn good ribbing from the next GTA, no matter the wing and leaning.  Besides, going too easy on one side will just get the others angry that they're the butt of the joke.

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