HD Trilogy Tommy Vercetti Replacement

[Platinum Card]

I like that you took inspiration from the concept art as well. So if you could save that as an alternate for later, that would be great. Love your work as always. Show Rockstar how it's done.

[almico]

Hey Platinum Card! Yeah forsure! Hope you're well homie

 

[almico]

We're back on track. New head model progress: Hol'Up, making big progress now. I've started again with Tommy's base mesh that I retopologized for sculpting. Everything is 95% accurate.

Edited October 30, 2021 by almico

[Claude_Lib]

Looking good!

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One thing that kinda bothers me a bit is that HD Tommy is looking up a little, while OG Tommy is looking just straight ahead.

Edited October 30, 2021 by Claude_Lib

[almico]

Honest Opinions.. I've created a new head and it's super accurate. I personally like it but Pedro doesn't like it. Let me know what you think? Keep or revert?

[almico]

Removing some pics

Edited November 2, 2021 by almico

[Claude_Lib]

35 minutes ago, almico said:

Honest Opinions.. I've created a new head and it's super accurate. I personally like it but Pedro doesn't like it. Let me know what you think? Keep or revert?

He does look like Tommy, for me personally, that's good enough.

Edited October 30, 2021 by Claude_Lib

[iAbokai]

On 10/30/2021 at 3:05 PM, almico said:

Honest Opinions.. I've created a new head and it's super accurate. I personally like it but Pedro doesn't like it. Let me know what you think? Keep or revert?

Yeeah... i think i'm gonna go with Pedro on this one.
I'm sorry to say this but, for me, your tommy model reached its ultimate peak when you made this:

Even tho the current model does look like tommy, i somehow like this wip the most.
The only things i liked from the sculpts you made after this was the more stylized hair and the more defined eyebrows, everything else just looked inferior compared to this.
This has like the perfect balance of accuracy and stylization.
I don't know... it just looks more natural to me.

[almico]

I get what you're saying. It has my own interpretation mixed with the original.. This is the new one, it's almost identical to the original. I don't know... I really like it.. It seems so faithful to the original. 

Edited October 30, 2021 by almico

[Claude_Lib]

Maybe somehow reduce that little smile in the corners of his mouth, the original dude looks more serious. Other than that, nothing I can really nitpick about.

Edited October 30, 2021 by Claude_Lib

[iAbokai]

Mixing your own interpretation with the original model is probably the best approach in this case.

The current model might be more accurate, but there's something about your previous sculpt that makes tommy look hell of a lot more natural.
I can't exactly point out why, but the current model just doesn't sit well with me.

[Piro]

1 hour ago, almico said:

Honest Opinions.. I've created a new head and it's super accurate. I personally like it but Pedro doesn't like it. Let me know what you think? Keep or revert?

Its hard to tell. I think I would have to see all of them next to each other including the original one from VC.

I looked at those 3 for now. In some ways the first one looks better than the second one, in other ways, its the other way around. But @iAbokai also has a point. The third one somehow looks the most like Tommy. Maybe because its just less detailed (+the haircut)? I don't know.



I think I just gonna mark parts of every face I like the most. I think mixing all of those features would give the best results (as long as you try to make it look like the last picture cause thats the most accurate one I think ) 

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edit: also just noticed, in the last picture his face isn't so wide. Maybe thats why he looks better? Original 3d model didn't had a lot of details so his face looked slim 


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53 minutes ago, almico said:

I get what you're saying. It has my own interpretation mixed with the original.. This is the new one, it's almost identical to the original. I don't know... I really like it.. It seems so faithful to the original. 

Yeah here it looks pretty accurate. I only see one issue. That part here might be a little bit too accurate. There's something uncanny about it, gives him that... neanderthal look
 

Maybe try making it just a little bit smaller? Maybe something like this? Tho I probably overdid here (I also slightly lifted his chin)

Edited October 30, 2021 by Piro

[BS_BlackScout]

Yeah, I kind of agree with the sentiment most people have. 

 

The details of the middle one are wonderful but the face seems to be straying away from what Tommy looked like, which I believe "wip"  (the third picture), looks more similar.
It's mostly the eyes and eyebrow region of his face I believe.
EDIT: The eyes, eyebrow are too low I think...

Edited October 30, 2021 by BS_BlackScout

[almico]

Version 4 incoming. Looks like accurate proportions to the original don't really work. At least I'm having fun testing!

[almico]

I love this take on Tommy. Anyone agree/disagree?

[Jinx.]

 

You should try using the texture used on the third Tommy. Also make the smile and the hair look more like on the third one. The new model seems fairly identical to the vanilla model which is good.

 

  

Just now, almico said:

I love this take on Tommy. Anyone agree/disagree?

I think you should stick to the original model and eventually the concept art, to be honest.

Edited October 31, 2021 by Jinx.

[slimeball supreme]

is it possible to do multiple versions? one closer to the original game and one more stylized perhaps

[almico]

Hey Jinx, it's been a while buddy. I'm using the 3rd as a base for the new version as everyone was happy with that one. Hopefully we nail it and most people are happy with the next version. I've just been testing to see which people like as I want the community to like how he looks. 

[Jinx.]

1 minute ago, almico said:

Hey Jinx, it's been a while buddy. I'm using the 3rd as a base for the new version as everyone was happy with that one. Hopefully we nail it and most people are happy with the next version. I've just been testing to see which people like as I want the community to like how he looks. 

Good to see you too, you aced Tommy in all renditions regardless of the style differences

 

It would be cool to see your take on Claude and CJ too

Edited October 31, 2021 by Jinx.

[almico]

  

Just now, slimeball supreme said:

is it possible to do multiple versions? one closer to the original game and one more stylized perhaps

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. I think people like it more when I do my own thing with the face. I have him visualized in my head now and the next one is going to be great. I know people like the older hair style and certain features from each model. This one has hit closest with everyone.

[Piro]

45 minutes ago, almico said:

I love this take on Tommy. Anyone agree/disagree?

Yeah its all right. I love Patrick Brown, I fallowed him for years. He can really capture the essence of those characters

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Edited October 31, 2021 by Piro

[almico]

1 minute ago, Piro said:

Yeah its all right. I love Patrick Brown, I fallowed him for years. He can really capture the essence of those characters

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It's like the characters proportions are way off, yet he captures their likeness somehow.. It's great. Like you said, he captures their 'essence'

[Piro]

And since we just talked about Patrick Brown, new artwork:





 

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https://www.deviantart.com/patrickbrown/art/GTA-The-Trilogy-Definitive-Edition-fan-art-896643529

[almico]

Sorry for no update guys, my damn graphics tablet has broken.. No sculpty sculpts. I am going to invest in a new intuos cintiq, a new one releases in the uk this week. Big investment, but besides this, I'm going to start building my portfolio. Maybe I'll apply to Rockstar in 6 months. We will see. 

[iAbokai]

Sad to hear about your tablet, tho i wish you the best of lucks with your portfolio, i'm pretty sure rockstar will gladly have you in the team!

[almico]

There's this reality tv star in the UK who always reminded me of how I envisioned Tommy. I got a pic of him and did some minor crappy editing. What do you think? 

[Saikou]

This new Tommy is coming along great. My first thought when I saw the new one was that hopefully R* will allow modding to change the character models, lol.
 

14 hours ago, almico said:

There's this reality tv star in the UK who always reminded me of how I envisioned Tommy. I got a pic of him and did some minor crappy editing. What do you think?

Not bad, I;d personally go with what some have suggested of one that looks very similar to the original, and then one sylized in your vision. The one you've got going so far is so good it'd be a shame to just abandon it.

[ADropInTheOcean]

I feel like this might have been said in this thread multiple times, but it two guys can make this in the span of a week then there's basically zero excuses to how dogsh*t the models of Vice City TDE look.

[ValterUdarnik]

On 10/30/2021 at 10:00 PM, almico said:

I get what you're saying. It has my own interpretation mixed with the original.. This is the new one, it's almost identical to the original. I don't know... I really like it.. It seems so faithful to the original. 

 

It's the eyes chico, the eyes never lie.

Try pushing the eyes more up to hide the eyelid AND pull down the iris.

It will work like magic, believe me.

Edited November 7, 2021 by ValterUdarnik

[Platinum Card]

On 10/30/2021 at 6:15 AM, almico said:

Hey Platinum Card! Yeah forsure! Hope you're well homie

 

I'm good, hoping all is well that way mutually. Looking forward to more updates. Honestly I wouldn't mind holding off getting the game until we have decent character models lol.