San Andreas Definitive Edition Analysis & Comparisons Topic

[SquoniX]

5 hours ago, SageFan said:

 

None that you can use, but I expect detail out of Rockstar. CJ isn't using toy guns, he's bought those firearms from Ammu-Nation or picked them up from dead gangsters. 

 

Definitely, yeah, maybe reusing assets from the VR game too as the game's graphics would become more glaring once you're in first person mode and an upgrade in detail is needed. 

Edited November 1, 2021 by SquoniX

[SquoniX]

6 hours ago, Americana said:

Unfortunately, CJ doesn't turn the wheel.

 

 

I saw this too but maybe the wheel was back to the original position as I think he is done turning at that point? 

 

Anyway, not too hopeful as he has his hands like a metre above while sailing the boat, just like how it was. 

[Kote2345]

I compare screenshot of city with original. Found some improvements

Remaster:

 

 

Original:

 

 

Apparently in remaster will be added some details to buildings in form of new models, but apparently remodeled models of buildings with a better detalization of geometry is not in gta sa, at least according to this screenshot city

Edited November 1, 2021 by Kote2345

[SquoniX]

40 minutes ago, Kote2345 said:

I compare screenshot of city with original. Found some improvements

Remaster:

 

 

Original:

 

 

Apparently in remaster will be added some details to buildings in form of new models, but apparently remodeled models of buildings with a better detalization of geometry is not in gta sa, at least according to this screenshot city

 

Well, I should say good work firstly.

 

Secondly, I don't think either of three games have any geometry improvements. Maybe interiors, is that what you mean? As for that, all 3 games have had some improvement but it is not consistent across all 3 games or even one at a time.

[Kote2345]

19 minutes ago, SquoniX said:

Secondly, I don't think either of three games have any geometry improvements. Maybe interiors, is that what you mean?

I was referring to the external improvement of buildings, in original many buildings are boxes with stretched texture with windows. Ideally, would like to see a slight improvement in geometry of buildings, adding recesses in windows. 
Like here:

But it seems that such changes are not much, it seems to be only one screenshot from gta vc, where you can see improved model of building, in original protrusions at windows is not. In GTA 3 in one screenshot similar noticeable. And in screenshot of city from gta sa I did not see any improved buildings, pure retexture and adding new models

Edited November 1, 2021 by Kote2345

[SquoniX]

7 minutes ago, Kote2345 said:

I was referring to the external improvement of buildings, in original many buildings are boxes with stretched texture with windows. Ideally, would like to see a slight improvement in geometry of buildings, adding recesses in windows. 
Like here:

But it seems that such changes are not much, it seems to be only one screenshot from gta vc, where you can see improved model of building, in original protrusions at windows is not. In GTA 3 in one screenshot similar noticeable. And in screenshot of city from gta sa I did not see any improved building, pure retexture and adding new models

 

True, this screenshot seems to be one of the latest in development. Seems very HQ, looks like he is near the trijunction on the way to Malibu Club where the ramp and the VCPD building are. For GTA:SA, there aren't too many screenshots where a building with windows is close enough, so hopefully, it is just that.

 

On 10/26/2021 at 12:27 AM, SquoniX said:

BIG change, houses are of different colours and reflect light properly:

 

Before:

 

 

After:

 

 

Changes:

• New trees 
• Much better lighting
• New street light added
• Colour of the house changed for aesthetics
• New skybox
• Cables are now smoother and less jagged

 

In the trailer, the new lighting gives an appearance of better geometry even if it is not actually improved much.

[bashovski]

Idk if it's been posted already, but it looks like there are actual grass objects placed where there was only a grass texture.
It seems like it hasn't been placed everywhere, but having more vegetation would be highly appreciated.
 

[SquoniX]

1 minute ago, bashovski said:

Idk if it's been posted already, but it looks like there are actual grass objects placed where there was only a grass texture.
It seems like it hasn't been placed everywhere, but having more vegetation would be highly appreciated.
 

 

Yes, missing in screenshots but present in the trailer.

[Jenci]

swat van looks dark blue to me than black maybe its just me 

[Havi]

Did they remove this or is it just so coincidentally covered by the trees? That is the most unlucky thing then. But I don't even see a pixel or pink color

Edited November 1, 2021 by Havi

[boomboom5950]

1 hour ago, Havi said:

Did they remove this or is it just so coincidentally covered by the trees? That is the most unlucky thing then. But I don't even see a pixel or pink color

definitley just blocked by the much nicer, denser trees. The old trees were this pixelated texture displayed twice in an X 

[Jabalous]

8 hours ago, Kote2345 said:

I compare screenshot of city with original. Found some improvements

Remaster:

 

 

 

Original:

 

 

Apparently in remaster will be added some details to buildings in form of new models, but apparently remodeled models of buildings with a better detalization of geometry is not in gta sa, at least according to this screenshot city

 

lol at the outdoor units in the original game. They're just part of the texture. Black-grey splash and we thought it's fine back in the day, haha.

[Havi]

Leaked Trilogy gameplay footage

 

[Peteryeeter]

Ok so i dont know how true this is but apparently the trilogy has been in development for a little over 2 years

https://screenrant.com/gta-trilogy-definitive-edition-developer-two-years/

[TTGMR]

On 10/23/2021 at 4:01 AM, SquoniX said:

Why is there a big ass tree in the middle in the upper pic? 

The PS2 version didn't have that tree

[Flipswix]

8 hours ago, Peteryeeter said:

Ok so i dont know how true this is but apparently the trilogy has been in development for a little over 2 years

https://screenrant.com/gta-trilogy-definitive-edition-developer-two-years/

If you think about it.. that's about as long as the original GTA San Andreas

[CynicalMexican]

8 hours ago, Flipswix said:

If you think about it.. that's about as long as the original GTA San Andreas

 

Fun fact: the domain name "gtasanandreas.com" was registered in May 2002, and if I'm not mistaken, development began in late 2002 (the early screenshots look a lot like Vice City)

[Anda7x1]

Why no one is talking about fat CJ? I can't wait to see fat CJ in 4k

[PhilPerlmutter]

44 minutes ago, Anda7x1 said:

Why no one is talking about fat CJ? I can't wait to see fat CJ in 4k

 

Well actually, I have played GTA San Andreas a lot, but I had CJ never fat.

I think it even took me until like 2 years ago to discover  that there are lets say consequences in the jetpack mission of Truth if he is fat.

[suicidehummer]

15 hours ago, CynicalMexican said:

 

Fun fact: the domain name "gtasanandreas.com" was registered in May 2002, and if I'm not mistaken, development began in late 2002 (the early screenshots look a lot like Vice City)

 

What were these early screenshots? Now I'm curious...

[Flipswix]

 

I remember seeing this in a magazine and losing my sh*t.. Can't find screens really looking like VC though

[CynicalMexican]

6 hours ago, suicidehummer said:

 

What were these early screenshots? Now I'm curious...

 

The one I particularly remember was the Beta Ryder one featuring the drive by mission, it's pretty easy to find.

[Peteryeeter]

Gta sa will reportedly be roughly 23gb minus the day one patch. 

[Spider-Vice]

9 hours ago, suicidehummer said:

 

What were these early screenshots? Now I'm curious...

 

[SquoniX]

6 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

 

 

Map looks like SA alright, one guy at the bottom looks like a VC guy.

Edited November 3, 2021 by SquoniX

[suicidehummer]

Has anyone ever recreated them with the finished game to compare the differences? Nothing really stands out to me but it's been a while since I played SA.

[turbocharger]

I can't wait to ride out to Bone County and visit Lil Probe Inn bar, been a while since I played some pool with that guy in the white sweater.

Also I hope they updated its exterior, it'd be pretty disappointing to find out it still has a very low poly pavement around it with only an updated texture.

 

The fact that the remaster runs on a completely different engine piques my curiosity and I have so many questions. Can't wait to get my hands on it to start uncovering it all.

 

It is going to be so weird to experience the same game on a new engine after having played it on RenderWare for so long.

Edited November 4, 2021 by turbocharger

[Jenci]

i wonder what they will do with interiors that dont match the exteriors in sa remove interiors or change them or change exterior? 

[GhettoJesus]

2 hours ago, Jenci said:

i wonder what they will do with interiors that dont match the exteriors in sa remove interiors or change them or change exterior? 

Good question.

 

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.18172-8/463645_342182465880241_334164423_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=9267fe&_nc_ohc=Eiq8DHmxPcoAX8bRlGj&_nc_ht=scontent-vie1-1.xx&oh=49e64a8ceb48ce4e12ec269c873630eb&oe=61AA894C

 

This place is pretty problematic in that regard. So far we know that we can see inside some interiors (like CJ's house) and that they also utilize parallel interiors. I think they might darken the glasses of these buildings. That seems like the simplest solution.

[Spider-Vice]

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