GTA Trilogy: The Definitive Edition Now Available for Pre-Order - Coming Nov 11

[Spider-Vice]

1 hour ago, Nikhilmao said:

Next time when making comparisons, try using the official screenshots found on the new Trilogy site:

 

 

As you can see, Tommy does not look as bad as you make it out to be in the first image, which is edited to make him look fatter in both stomach and sides. His hair is also altered to make it look more like a doll. This post got 43 likes, 43 people who got baited and possibly have their views on the game altered because of someone editing an image to make it look worse than the official screenshots. I really hope you didn't edit this.

Yeah, that's... The official screenshot doesn't do that in Tommy's stomach, the button is even stretched. Regardless, it won't change anything, Tommy still has his issues for a lot of people. Benefit of the doubt says maybe they got this from Reddit or something. Hopefully.

 

16 hours ago, Kalvin said:

Made a few edits to our old boy Tommy. Honestly, he's not too far off - this didn't take much time to transform. I'd like to see modding cracked not long after release and tweak stuff like this for real.

 

 

[TenLucas]

2 hours ago, Prst said:

I have already discussed this in Vice City topic. This is probably due to the fact that each screen can be from a different build of the game.

[IVCavalcade]

1 minute ago, Spider-Vice said:

Tommy still has his issues for a lot of people

This cartoony character style is definitely growing on me, I think it could all look quite cool in motion. Also the way he looks a bit like a toy keeps making me think they should release a 20th anniversary Tommy collectible figure in this style, like the one they released of Claude for the 10th anniversary lol.

 

On another note, I haven't seen much HUD info - I know they're using the V weapon wheel, I hope they don't consolidate the entire HUD to be uniform with what we see in V. I really hope they keep that iconic cluster of icons in the top right of the screen and don't try to trim it down too much to look 'sleek' or something.

[Spider-Vice]

23 minutes ago, Piro said:

Orange Tommy

Based on other scenes/screenshots that kinda looks like it's the lighting inside the apartment tho.

[TheBitsGuy]

6 minutes ago, Chazza354 said:

This cartoony character style is definitely growing on me, I think it could all look quite cool in motion.

I agree with this.
I think my biggest concerns now are the Gameplay and the Music.

[joe1606]

I'm sure we will have an option to toggle to old graphics. The fidelity is way too high for not having this option.  The fact that there is the two versions of the sanchez (VC and SA) make me think all the original assets and modelisations are available for us to switch to. 

 

And I think the 3 screenshots of Tommy, Claude and CJ ('3 epic stories' part) are from early build. The release is soon but I think we'll get more materials that are close to what we'll get ingame. Remember Arthur face on trailer  2 was a bit weird compared to the gameplay and lunch trailer. Michael face too.

 

Maybe they wanted to communicate months before but choose to not to. But the media materials was made and they didn't see the point to make them all over again to match the most recent build.

Edited October 25, 2021 by joe1606

[(Vip)Met]

6 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

Having had some time to settle and think about it all. It's a mixed bag. So much of it looks great, such as the improved draw distance, texture quality and environments. But there are others that just look a little off, such as some of the colouring/saturation in places. Many characters look overly cartoonish (Avery). Even the improved lighting has its downside, such as the tine or vibe feeling different than GTA III.

 

I still overall like it, but I don't prefer it. I'm a purist, and I'll always prefer the OG look ( I play Halo 1 & 2 in classic mode, for example). I really need to play it for myself and have a good look around. I'm sure it will end up feeling like 'the definitive versions' of those games. But I don't think it will ever look it.

I just never want to make any knee-jerk comments or reactions.

I think 90% of people feel the same way. 
The ones that "accuse" others of saying that there are no improvements or graphical difference are straight up taking it all wrong, sure there's people that are strangely convinced that there's no improvement whatsoever but it's such a tiny percentage in my opinion that might as well consider them trolls.

Most people, me included and I'm happy that others seem to be realizing, believe that everything looks great except some aspects of the characters (for example no one is complaining about the vehicles which have the same artistic style of the characters) and that they do need some rework. They need to find the sweet spot between the models looking like the originals and adapting them in a modern looking environment, and that's a not easy task.

Other stuff like some guns and textures need to be relooked at because they are way too clean or have problems (light poles have repeated textures, the Vinewood sign, roads are too clean) 

[TheBitsGuy]

6 minutes ago, joe1606 said:

I'm sure we will have an option to toggle to old graphics. The fidelity is way to high for not having this option.  The fact that there is the two versions of the sanchez (VC and SA) make me think all the original assets and modelisations are available for us to switch to. 

I'd love this to be the case, would make both sides of the same coin happy.

[just Gesha]

I'm sorry but even then Tommy no longer looks like a badass. How is anyone supposed to fear a plastic doll? For comparison, here's a simple GTA VC mod:



The games were cartoonish, yes, but in their own way. They didn't look like Fortnite or The Sims. I am acutally pleased with most of what was shown except the character models. That's my only real complain so far.

Edited October 24, 2021 by just Gesha

[Piro]

29 minutes ago, dimiusko said:

The video in question doesn't do that much of a job though.

Considering that on one side you have a fan made video with a budget of 0$ (only the power of editing and mods on their side) vs one of the biggest gaming companies in the world? Yeah I think the video in question did a better job than R*. At least they preserved the vibe of those games (one of the most important things you could argue) instead of ruining it by turning them into something that looks more like a bad ripoff parody with fortnite art style... 

They should hire them to edit some trailers if you ask me. And If I could choose, I surly would prefer to play those canceled mods that got destroyed by T2. This "Enhanced" Edition with Sims characters? Yeah, no tnx. I'd wouldn't want to play that even if they payed me to do it. I don't want it to ruin my memories.

But hey, there's a bright side of it. Maybe in like a year or so, there will be mods that will fix all of those disney characters. Best of both worlds.
 

12 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Based on other scenes/screenshots that kinda looks like it's the lighting inside the apartment tho.

They have "apartment lightning" when he's on a yacht? I would say its just the issue with lightning in general (/ maybe a filter they used in VC? Who knows). Something that definitely needs to be fixed before release.

But even in GTA 3 Cloud looks like a blow up doll. His face is shiny AF.

Edited October 24, 2021 by Piro

[Donald Lov]

I finally figured out what is so off about the new Tommy(besides the weight). The OG Vercetti's eyebrows are located in such a way that, along with the narrowed eyes, it makes him look grumpy 95% of the time. This combination also makes him look phlegmatic, always calm and in control. 

Compare the "It's my money, Tommy" phonecall scene: 

1. The situation is disastrous, but Tommy, as always, remains visibly calm and focused.

2. Here, Tommy looks distinctly nervous and even scared(which was never the case with the OG one; he was often angry, but never scared).

 

Weirdly enough, a different screenshot does it right:

 

The theory about the trailer being compiled of different versions of the game starts making the most sense to me. I can't explain the obvious differences otherwise. Could they screw up Tommy's appearance in the cutscenes, while having the "gameplay" version of him look just fine? 

[TheBitsGuy]

7 minutes ago, Notorious_Jack said:

The theory about the trailer being compiled of different versions of the game starts making the most sense to me. I can't explain the obvious differences otherwise. Could they screw up Tommy's appearance in the cutscenes, while having the "gameplay" version of him look just fine? 

Sch, i guess they used the same trick with GTA SA where the Cutscene models have more bones so they can be more expressive.

[(Vip)Met]

We need a gameplay video from the latest version or we will be talking about this until release.

[TenLucas]

A little funfact for people who would doubt that the screens are from an older build of the game: Remember Mafia Definitive Edition? Well, gameplay trailer of this game released in August was originally ready for E3, which was supposed to take place in June, and the scenes in it were recorded in March / April build.

[(Vip)Met]

 

[MaccerKuntPaul]

1 hour ago, CommanderBlack said:

I agree with that, but IMO Gypsy complaints to much for me. I agree with some things he said and i am sorry for him that people insult him with the new look from Tommy but these are just some haters or kids that want to be funny

??? Most people here dont like the way tommy looks. It has nothing to do with being a kid, it just looks wrong lmfao

[TheBitsGuy]

6 minutes ago, (Vip)Met said:

We need a gameplay video from the latest version or we will be talking about this until release.

19 days of Bitching and Moaning over these ballooned up Sims npcs that will probably look fine on release let's goooooooooo

[WizzNL]

Had a busy weekend so haven't been reading a lot since the trailer dropped, is there any news regarding the soundtracks? It's the only bit of info that keeps me from pre-ordering.

 

[Demysted]

38 minutes ago, Piro said:

I really wish more people complained about Orange Tommy.

I think the most common complaint right now is of how Tommy looks.

[TenLucas]

2 minutes ago, (Vip)Met said:

 

I don't know. They look similar, but different enough to be a coincidence. 

[Predoquinh4]

2 minutes ago, WizzNL said:

Had a busy weekend so haven't been reading a lot since the trailer dropped, is there any news regarding the soundtracks? It's the only bit of info that keeps me from pre-ordering.

 

Still nothing. We'll probably see something about it on the next two weeks/release.

Edited October 24, 2021 by Predoquinh4

[WizzNL]

1 minute ago, Predoquinh4 said:

Still nothing. We'll probably see something about it on the next two weeks/release.

 

Alright , thanks!

[dimiusko]

12 minutes ago, just Gesha said:

I'm sorry but even then Tommy no longer looks like a badass. How is anyone supposed to fear a plastic doll? For comparison, here's a simple GTA VC mod(yellow tint is due to SkyGfx):

Really looks like a good-natured guy. Probably goes to church on Sundays.

[Piro]

1 minute ago, Demysted said:

I think the most common complaint right now is of how Tommy looks.

Yeah, but for R* to actually acknowledge it, it would have to really go viral, you know?

But hey, even if they won't fix it, I'm sure the modding community can do it. Maybe a year or two after release I will be able to play those games without cringing about this new "art style"

[Demysted]

7 minutes ago, (Vip)Met said:

 

That one's a bit of a stretch. Different location, different weather, cop car chase.

Just now, Piro said:

Yeah, but for R* to actually acknowledge it, it would have to really go viral, you know?

As far as I can tell, pretty much most people talking about the GTA Trilogy have commented on how Tommy looks. I'm sure Rockstar Games and GSG are well aware of it by now. Anyway, they still have time to tweak such a thing before release.

[Spider-Vice]

21 minutes ago, joe1606 said:

Remember Arthur face on trailer  2 was a bit weird compared to the gameplay and lunch trailer.

Oh god yeah, there was a lot of debate about that. I was also looking back at when people gave a GTA V screenshot so much sh*t because the bushes by Michael's house, in people's words, "looked like menhirs"   Among many other things...

[Predoquinh4]

4 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Oh god yeah, there was a lot of debate about that. I was also looking back at when people gave a GTA V screenshot so much sh*t because the bushes by Michael's house, in people's words, "looked like menhirs"   Among many other things...

I've never thought that Michael had monoliths at his house 

Edited October 24, 2021 by Predoquinh4

[rollschuh2282]

19 minutes ago, Notorious_Jack said:

Weirdly enough, a different screenshot does it right:

hmm i wonder if they will have some simple facial expressions during gameplay.
like looking angry while "in action", calm when just standing around in idle etc.
 

[hulkie]

28 minutes ago, joe1606 said:

I'm sure we will have an option to toggle to old graphics. The fidelity is way to high for not having this option.  The fact that there is the two versions of the sanchez (VC and SA) make me think all the original assets and modelisations are available for us to switch to. 

 

And I think the 3 screenshots of Tommy, Claude and CJ ('3 epic stories' part) are from early build. The release is soon but I think we'll get more materials that are close to what we'll get ingame. Remember Arthur face on trailer  2 was a bit weird compared to the gameplay and lunch trailer. Michael face too.

 

Maybe they wanted to communicate months before but choose to not to. But the media materials was made and they didn't see the point to make them all over again to match the most recent build.

Doubt it,if there was an option for both,they would have mentioned it in the trailer. If it does have both options, rockstar is nuts for not mentioning it. They are cannibalizing sales.

[TheBitsGuy]

Sometimes i wish Graphics weren't such a bigger priority over Gameplay and QoL features for gamers (and devs alike)
Otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion in the first place.

This Sims sh*t is likely going to age better than your average photo realistic next gen experience by your cocky, selfish AAA western studio and it's gonna take 10 years for people to accept it.

Edited October 24, 2021 by TheBitsGuy