KiloZulu Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 R* made some progress in curbing cheating this summer, but things are getting bad again. For weeks now, there hasn't been a day that goes by that I'm not blown up by explosions at my feet at least once. Last night was especially bad, wherein I was blown up, and in the process switched to offensive, max hostility, and tagged for griefing. I just had to give up for the night. Today, I logged in and was blown up the second my character appeared on screen. Switched servers, and managed to complete one bounty before it started again. This time, my computer blue-screened, and I do not think that was coincidence. I fully believe it was a direct result of whatever hacks were being run. R* needs to find a way to crack down more. 78 lil red express 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBuffalo Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 You could try a Red M server to avoid the issue completely. I think most people advise using a VPN to play pc as the cheaters can see you the instant you log on. R* is not going to fix the problem anytime soon. As I understand it, PC players trade getting griefed for having better graphics. Meaning if they continue to play at all, they just accept that mod menus are always going to be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerfgoth Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 @KiloZulu Found this: "The General Data Protection Regulation is a European Union law that was implemented May 25, 2018, and requires organizations to safeguard personal data and uphold the privacy rights of anyone in EU territory. The regulation includes seven principles of data protection that must be implemented and eight privacy rights that must be facilitated. It also empowers member state-level data protection authorities to enforce the GDPR with sanctions and fines. The GDPR replaced the 1995 Data Protection Directive, which created a country-by-country patchwork of data protection laws. The GDPR, passed in European Parliament by overwhelming majority, unifies the EU under a single data protection regime." Source https://gdpr.eu/faq/ Hackers/modders are saving peoples IP numbers means that they are breaking the agreement on GDPR and no encryption between players makes R* breaking this rules by not safeguarding our personal information! IzzyBlues 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRIDA_KAHLO Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Nerfgoth said: > by not safeguarding our personal information! No encryption between players? Is the traffic on port 6672 not encrypted? There appeared to be an HTTPS control channel to rock star and a bunch of UPD to the other players in the session peer to peer. Are the hacks commonly based on the program not validating its local files, or do they modify these kinds of traffic, does it have a security issue? Yeah it's really bad cockamamie scheme to be directly peer to peer IP anyway, but I took some comfort that to my eye the payloads look encrypted hmm anyway this comment, curious is it not encrypted Edited October 19, 2021 by FRIDA_KAHLO AmyStone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerfgoth Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 4:07 PM, FRIDA_KAHLO said: No encryption between players? Is the traffic on port 6672 not encrypted? There appeared to be an HTTPS control channel to rock star and a bunch of UPD to the other players in the session peer to peer. Are the hacks commonly based on the program not validating its local files, or do they modify these kinds of traffic, does it have a security issue? Yeah it's really bad cockamamie scheme to be directly peer to peer IP anyway, but I took some comfort that to my eye the payloads look encrypted hmm anyway this comment, curious is it not encrypted Sorry, no! How GTA:O works ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dedicated servers Recommend tho to watch the entire video! Non Funkable Token 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRIDA_KAHLO Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) Yes it's not what I meant; but my question takes for granted that it is peer to peer and we have one anothers IP addresses, which is indeed bad enough and inexcusable practice to begin with, although it is not "unencrypted" or "insecure traffic", it is an insecure practice. And it would be better for security and should be better for performance, if they have their wits about them, to connect the UDP channel to a regional rockstar endpoint, went across their own global mesh, out the other endpoints to the other gamers. And they really must take measures to prevent tampering with the local program it seems. Your youtuber was commenting how some of the mod menu hacks have anti tampering measures (irony!!!?) For now, in the 3 little piggies story metaphor, they seem definitely Strawstar or at best Woodstar in their security house. Edited October 21, 2021 by FRIDA_KAHLO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gettin up Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Interesting. When I first sas this topic I thought this was about GTA Online. Cheating in RDO is seems really rare compared to GTA Online. Maybe you just get thrown to the bad gaming sessions because your from US and prob using US IP as well. Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyStone Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 On 10/21/2021 at 2:37 AM, FRIDA_KAHLO said: Yes it's not what I meant; but my question takes for granted that it is peer to peer and we have one anothers IP addresses, which is indeed bad enough and inexcusable practice to begin with, although it is not "unencrypted" or "insecure traffic", it is an insecure practice. And it would be better for security and should be better for performance, if they have their wits about them, to connect the UDP channel to a regional rockstar endpoint, went across their own global mesh, out the other endpoints to the other gamers. And they really must take measures to prevent tampering with the local program it seems. Your youtuber was commenting how some of the mod menu hacks have anti tampering measures (irony!!!?) For now, in the 3 little piggies story metaphor, they seem definitely Strawstar or at best Woodstar in their security house. When I was playing on the ps4 it was fairly common to get kicked offline (happened every coupe of months) by some upset players who would pay for a service that would ddos you. It would usually only last a couple of hours (but was never really a problem because I just switched over to my phone for internet). But since getting the ps5 that has never happened. It could be just a coincidence but it seems to me that Sony have found a way to prevent it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyStone Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 8 hours ago, Gettin up said: Interesting. When I first sas this topic I thought this was about GTA Online. Cheating in RDO is seems really rare compared to GTA Online. Maybe you just get thrown to the bad gaming sessions because your from US and prob using US IP as well. Who knows? I've encountered far more cheating in RDO than GTAO. Right now off radar seems to be the most common (and rockstar really need to fix the problem where killed player bounties can return off radar and attack you). Not sure if it was just because it wasn't around a couple of years ago but Cronus is quite common in RDO but I never saw that used in GTAO. Showdowns are completely infested by it. Another is where players use lag to gain an advantage. As far as you can see you're getting headshots but they don't register because the game thinks they are somewhere else. Most of that won't affect PvE players. About the only cheat I saw in GTAO (apart from the rank 8000s who had invisible body parts but were otherwise harmless) were wall glitches where players could camp out and never get killed. But that's all PlayStation. From what I've seen on here RDO seems to be full of cheaters on PC. Are you saying it's even worse in GTAO for PC? Do not Bogart that, Nerfgoth and Gettin up 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerfgoth Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, AmyStone said: I've encountered far more cheating in RDO than GTAO. Right now off radar seems to be the most common (and rockstar really need to fix the problem where killed player bounties can return off radar and attack you). Not sure if it was just because it wasn't around a couple of years ago but Cronus is quite common in RDO but I never saw that used in GTAO. Showdowns are completely infested by it. Another is where players use lag to gain an advantage. As far as you can see you're getting headshots but they don't register because the game thinks they are somewhere else. Most of that won't affect PvE players. About the only cheat I saw in GTAO (apart from the rank 8000s who had invisible body parts but were otherwise harmless) were wall glitches where players could camp out and never get killed. But that's all PlayStation. From what I've seen on here RDO seems to be full of cheaters on PC. Are you saying it's even worse in GTAO for PC? Something like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gettin up Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 On 10/25/2021 at 12:00 PM, AmyStone said: I've encountered far more cheating in RDO than GTAO. Right now off radar seems to be the most common (and rockstar really need to fix the problem where killed player bounties can return off radar and attack you). Not sure if it was just because it wasn't around a couple of years ago but Cronus is quite common in RDO but I never saw that used in GTAO. Showdowns are completely infested by it. Another is where players use lag to gain an advantage. As far as you can see you're getting headshots but they don't register because the game thinks they are somewhere else. Most of that won't affect PvE players. About the only cheat I saw in GTAO (apart from the rank 8000s who had invisible body parts but were otherwise harmless) were wall glitches where players could camp out and never get killed. But that's all PlayStation. From what I've seen on here RDO seems to be full of cheaters on PC. Are you saying it's even worse in GTAO for PC? It's been much worse in GTAO on PC. I hardly come across cheaters in RDO, maybe because I do not play so many showdowns? But it's really rare to get teleported, to be killed immediately, or whatever. And if you get teleported you can always ALT+F4 so you disconnect from the game. If you in GTAO join a public lobby with more than 20 players, it is more than likely that you will find at least one cheater. Both games seem to have far less players per session in the mornings, obviously because most have school / work to go in the mornings. So it would be the best time to play if you have night shift at work, or just a day off, or whatever. IDK about consoles, but speaking about PC in general cheating never bothered me too much in RDO compared to GTAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyStone Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/25/2021 at 10:07 AM, Nerfgoth said: Something like this? No, not like that. One thing I can do quite consistently is get headshots. When I miss the head then I know it's a miss. 99% of battles with players things work as expected but there's the 1% of players where I know I'm hitting the head multiple times but the shots just don't register. Sometimes you even get the flash to indicate a hit (when it's on the head then it should be a kill) but they don't die. In the extreme cases I've been approaching players and firing at them only for them to vanish and appear to the side or behind me instantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDeadWolfe Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 New player. Was gifted RDO so My sons and I could play together. Not a single session goes by that isn't interrupted by the explosion hack. How the F do you let this happen in a game? How many people quit playing for this reason? Poor customer service and poor business behavior on RockStar's part. I'll never understand how anyone enjoys ruining someone else's play time like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSinclar Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) Hi, Maybe you should use a VPN and connect to european servers... got annoyed whith modders / cheaters less than 30 minutes in my last 300 hours of game. That's ridiculous! Edited December 11, 2021 by BobSinclar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gettin up Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Do US players really get often abused by cheaters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggek Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) Rule of thumb no 1: Never ever, play any R* online title (GTAV or RDO) on a PC!!! It's begging for trouble (unless you can play "alone in a solo session"...) Edited December 12, 2021 by roggek Nerfgoth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatzeFive Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 We started playing again three days ago - and we haven't really met anyone we could truly say was cheating (although we may have met one - but not sure) But then we had a really good day today - when three eastern europeans (don't know where they came from, but they had a non-russian language) came up and asked if we would help them get started - they were rank 8 to 10 .. We invited them to our posse - fed them with special stew - showed them how to fill their belts with ammo - and took them with us at a trader run, and a bounty hunt .. They did enjoy it - and participated with all what they got - and earned 600 $ and a bit of gold - and they were so grateful, and thanked us (and we also had a lot of fun out of it) This is how RDO should be played - with respect for the game and the players - earning the rank, and the money .. It's so much more rewarding .. KatzeFive smokeless6, FRIDA_KAHLO and kcole4001 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gettin up Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 On 12/13/2021 at 1:20 AM, roggek said: Rule of thumb no 1: Never ever, play any R* online title (GTAV or RDO) on a PC!!! It's begging for trouble (unless you can play "alone in a solo session"...) I don't know how I avoid it, but I have almost 3000 hours playtime on both of the games on PC without major issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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