GTA Trilogy: The Definitive Edition Officially Announced - Coming Soon

[Silen]

1 hour ago, (Vip)Met said:

Obviusly if Rockstar is going with this style the games will have PBR texture like... it's a no brainer lol

 

Highly doubt it though, they'd have to rework way too many things and it'd be a radical change, whilst they have stated the games will keep their classic look. If they aimed for more realistic, PBR materials, they'd have to remake almost all of the textures (it goes without saying creating materials today is nothing like it was in the early 2000s and takes up a lot more work), which would also be pointless unless they also remade most of the models. Basically, it'd have to be almost a complete remake. Just not gonna happen. 

Edited October 19, 2021 by Silen

[RedDagger]

7 hours ago, Ash_735 said:

OK, controversial question time.

 

What if Rockstar do not announce any physical merchandise for the anniversary but instead launch a range of NFTs?

Special in-game outfits that you only get if you own the NFT! Additional features exclusive to those who own a corresponding NFT! cheat codes? That's right, you need to buy a cheat code NFT, and each effect is slightly different so each effect is unique*

 

*imagine! A thousand invincibility cheat code NFTs, all the way from 1s of invincibility to 1000s of invincibility!

[JoeFury1997]

Aircraft in San andreas when they tap a lamppost.

 

I do hope aircraft aren't as fragile in San andreas. They should keep the explosions though to surprise new players.

[Alex Von Bronx]

8 minutes ago, Pete Love said:

 

I'm not expecting a new game. To me, the inclusion of bikes, swimming, new cars, NPCs, helicopters etc into GTA3 wouldn't stop it being GTA3. It would just enhance it, using modern technology to basically grow the inventory of stuff that they either hadn't thought of, or couldn't include in the original. In my mind, they already released "enhancements" for the PS4 and android ports for example, which were downright lazy and buggy. All I am saying is, if they want this game to sell, they really should give us a reason to buy it. Updating the controls and basic textures after 20 years of technological innovation is slap in the face to a loyal base IMO.

 

I agree with you, all I was saying is a line has to be drawn somewhere. But all the achievements point to the game's features being the same (no indication of bikes/helis/clothes in 3, outfits working the same way in VC, and generally only referencing things we already have working the way they did before).

What I'm saying is, this new version won't be bad if we don't get these things if what we already have gets good improvements.

[Demysted]

15 minutes ago, Silen said:

 

Highly doubt it though, they'd have to rework way too many things and it'd be a radical change, whilst they have stated the games will keep their classic look. If they aimed for more realistic, PBR materials, they'd have to remake almost all of the textures (it goes without saying creating materials today is nothing like it was in the early 2000s and takes up a lot more work), which would also be pointless unless they also remade most of the models. Basically, it'd have to be almost a complete remake. Just not gonna happen. 

I'm personally expecting them to remake most textures and models. There's no way they'd use even the source images from back then, as they simply would not fit in a game with modern proper lighting techniques. There's also a ton that basically look like real photos slapped onto a building, or are square textures stretched like hell to fit a wide shopfront, like the Pikachu texture from GTA SA that was posted within the last few pages.

[Volvagia]

21 minutes ago, Alex Von Bronx said:

 

I agree with you, all I was saying is a line has to be drawn somewhere. But all the achievements point to the game's features being the same (no indication of bikes/helis/clothes in 3, outfits working the same way in VC, and generally only referencing things we already have working the way they did before).

What I'm saying is, this new version won't be bad if we don't get these things if what we already have gets good improvements.

Part of me thinks we're not getting Bikes/Helicopters/Swimming in 3 or even other skins (like GTA3 on PC being able to use custom skins) - seems too good to be true. I think Bikes in GTA3 would honestly change a lot... but so would GTAV style controls which are apparently all but confirmed... So if Claude can climb terrain like CJ or later protagonists.... then the game is already severely different. Won't even be a challenge to play what is essentially car to ledge hopscotch for new players to get the 9MM at the start of the game on the side wall if you can just climb up.

 

If it is 'GTAV style controls' I wonder if you can now use a 9MM in a drive-by... Probably not. Part of me doubts you'll even have GTAIV/GTAV style drive by controls...

 

The AK-47 is already incredibly broken in GTA3 on Portland, can't imagine how powerful it is with modern style controls (you can essentially snipe targets from very far radius' in the original game in Triads and Tribulations without even having to enter the fish factory) ... I don't think I'll ever enjoy doing Bomb-Da-Base Act II without a mouse and keyboard though... sniper controls are unmatched on PC.

Edited October 19, 2021 by Volvagia

[rbix]

I'd be a bit disappointed if we won't be able to swim and climb in GTA 3 and Vice City. Here, I said it.

Edited October 19, 2021 by rbix

[Alan Wake]

55 minutes ago, Alex Von Bronx said:

I don't know about you but videogames help me fix my mental issues

They help me forget the harsh reality.

[Capt.Bojangles]

3 hours ago, rbix said:

I'd be a bit disappointed if we won't be able to swim and climb in GTA 3 and Vice City. Here, I said it.

i expect those kinda things to be the same.
cause it's became part of the lore kinda? like how John Marston can't swim.
now i think of it a lot of Rockstar Characters can't swim.
can Rockstar swim?

[Volvagia]

1 minute ago, rbix said:

I'd be a bit disappointed if we won't be able to swim and climb in GTA 3 and Vice City. Here, I said it.

3 has some lore as to why you can't swim, I don't remember what Vice City's excuse is. If I recall correctly, the water is so polluted that no human could swim in it without fatal reprecutions (the water looks like sh*t also lmao, especially compared to Vice City).

 

I can't really see Rockstar undoing this, as much as I'd like them to... not without putting an instant, San Andreas/GTAIV like wanted level, on the other islands. (This wasn't a thing in III and VC, you can get to the other islands without getting the cops on you via bugs if you knew how)...

 

Although getting to Staunton early isn't a big deal, as a casual you can't really get back very easily to where you're supposed to go. The tunnel and the bridge is out. I couldn't see them being OK with the player just swimming between the islands. Maybe if they implemented Vice City Stories style swimming where you can't stay in the water long, it'd be OK.

[Capt.Bojangles]

if i ever get the chance to talk to Dan or Sam Houser that will be the first thing i ask them.
" Can you guys swim? "

[Alex Von Bronx]

"No."

[Melm]

can't wait to drive thru rodeo in sa, fort carson also damn what about you peeps?

Edited October 19, 2021 by Melm

[Capt.Bojangles]

i really hope they can renew the licenses to the music in the games
i mean they are remastering these games and lets face it nostalgia sells really well.
and the music is a big part of the games. probably just wishful thinking.

[DJS]

5 minutes ago, Volvagia said:

Maybe if they implemented Vice City Stories style swimming where you can't stay in the water long, it'd be OK.

My previous opinion was that no way would they add swimming to the games but this I can get behind. It fixes the gameplay problem of accidentally falling into the water and instantly dying without ruining the lore reasons or enabling access to the other islands early in the game. Would be a good quality of life improvement to the games.

[SickteddyPT]

2 minutes ago, Melm said:

can't wait to drive thru rodeo in sa, fort carson also damn what about you peeps?

Hope this time don't lose the damn train

[TahaWael]

1 hour ago, Plebyxail said:

Do you guys think there will be ragdoll physics?

 

Probably They will be using Euphoria Physics since Rockstar has purchased its license 

[Alex Von Bronx]

Yeah I don't want full blown swimming/diving in LC/VC because they would break the game, but a VCS style system where you can't swim indefinitely would be a nice middle ground.

[Andreas915]

48 minutes ago, Capt.Bojangles said:

TOMMY VERCETTI IS A LIZARD HUMAN HYBRID IT'S CONFIRMED.

 

If enough people say it, it must be true.

[Panzermann11]

16 minutes ago, Volvagia said:

3 has some lore as to why you can't swim, I don't remember what Vice City's excuse is.

Vice City's waters are supposedly full of sharks, but in-game there doesn't seem to be anything indicative of that.

Edited October 19, 2021 by Panzermann11

[Capt.Bojangles]

3 hours ago, DJS said:

My previous opinion was that no way would they add swimming to the games but this I can get behind. It fixes the gameplay problem of accidentally falling into the water and instantly dying without ruining the lore reasons or enabling access to the other islands early in the game. Would be a good quality of life improvement to the games.

those painful days of Vice City when trying to jump from a boat to a Dock and fall and miss completely to only lose all guns you've bought
use to make my ass itch! lmfao

[Volvagia]

I think the biggest thing GTA3 needs is dive out of the car, honestly. I think newer fans will really struggle with some stuff if they can't bail.

 

I'm assuming we're at least getting that with the mentioned "GTAV style controls".

 

I fully expect the core game things to be changed in 3 though:

 

- Dive out of the car

- Auto Save after mission

- Mission Replay feature

- GTA V Style aiming, targetting and weapon switching.

- Ammunation changed to be a universal style thing not the old laying on the ground style.

- Pay N' Spray to allow color choice. (wishful thinking honestly, even SA didn't do this without mod garages)

- Phone Call missions fixed (these would repeat later in the game)

- Leone Mafia Family to no longer carry shotguns in Saint Marks (post Farewell Salvatore is a death sentence in Saint Marks)

- Waka Gashira Wipeout goons to still have Uzi's instead of the M16/AK47's they did on PS2. (PC nerf to these gang members, this mission destroyed your car on PS2)

- Replay bug on PC to be fixed for Firefighter.

- Hobo Duplication glitch in the Portland Tunnel to be fixed for security reasons.

- Ghost Town nowhere to be found, hidden away from in-game state.

- GPS way points

- A map when you hit pause with a full legend.

Edited October 19, 2021 by Volvagia

[Alex Von Bronx]

4 minutes ago, TahaWael said:

Probably They will be using Euphoria Physics since Rockstar has purchased its license 

no keep thats its funny

[Capt.Bojangles]

" Tommy Vercetti is a innocent man.....that can't swim. "

[Ondr4H]

I called this guy a wizard, he called GTA SA: Definitive edition

One year prior Mafias DE

Two years prior GTAs DE

Without knowing anything! Guys in R*/T2 probably watch some of these videos...

Edit he actually come with Definitive edition idea four years back, just mindblowing.
 

 

Edited October 19, 2021 by Ondr4H

[DuPz0r]

If the shooting mechanics is going to be more like GTA V. Does anyone think we'll see a new cover system now?

Edited October 19, 2021 by DuPz0r

[Capt.Bojangles]

3 hours ago, Volvagia said:

I think the biggest thing GTA3 needs is dive out of the car, honestly. I think newer fans will really struggle with some stuff if they can't bail.

 

I'm assuming we're at least getting that with the mentioned "GTAV style controls".

 

I fully expect the core game things to be changed in 3 though:

 

- Dive out of the car

- Auto Save after mission

- Mission Replay feature

- GTA V Style aiming, targetting and weapon switching.

- Ammunation changed to be a universal style thing not the old laying on the ground style.

- Pay N' Spray to allow color choice. (wishful thinking honestly, even SA didn't do this without mod garages)

- Phone Call missions fixed (these would repeat later in the game)

- Leone Mafia Family to no longer carry shotguns in Saint Marks (post Farewell Salvatore is a death sentence in Saint Marks)

- Waka Gashira Wipeout goons to still have Uzi's instead of the M16/AK47's they did on PS2. (PC nerf to these gang members, this mission destroyed your car on PS2)

- Replay bug on PC to be fixed for Firefighter.

- Hobo Duplication glitch in the Portland Tunnel to be fixed for security reasons.

- Ghost Town nowhere to be found, hidden away from in-game state.

- GPS way points

- A map when you hit pause with a full legend.

you know what would really suck?
that the things you listed off are easy quality of life fixes they could add
but they don't. that would suck so bad.
but realistically i see them adding these kinda touch ups,  the leaks and even Rockstar their self said " Modern up to date enhancements. "

[Volvagia]

5 minutes ago, Ondr4H said:

I called this guy a wizard, he called GTA SA: Definitive edition

One year prior Mafias DE

Two years prior GTAs DE

Without knowing anything! Guys in R*/T2 probably watch some of these videos...

Edit he actually come with Definitive edition idea for years back, just mindblowing.
 

 

....he called Vice City definitive edition with his video on Vice far earlier than this, also..

 

 

[galgor]

Anyone else really keeping their expectations low? Like, so low they're not expecting even any autosave features?

 

Some of your suggestions are top notch and really, R* could make these games absolutely incredible. But will they? Guess we'll see...

[Americana]

I don't know, I just hope they don't f*ck around with Kuruma.