GTA Trilogy: The Definitive Edition Officially Announced - Coming Soon

[D-Tunez]

10 minutes ago, Zapper said:

And if I am not wrong the maps of GTA3, VC and SA combined are smaller than GTAV's map.

Really? Thats hard to believe for me haha, isnt San Andreas alone bigger than GTA V?

[modern2k16]

Wanna see GTA The Trilogy: The Definitive Edition midnight launch. A line of people in front of the store

[TahaWael]

Why Rockstar didn't remake GTA III and VC considering that T2 did remake Mafia and it release was 2 months before GTA VC and almost 1 year after GTA 3

[Zapper]

2 minutes ago, D-Tunez said:

Really? Thats hard to believe for me haha, isnt San Andreas alone bigger than GTA V?

According to this topic no.

 

[Alex Von Bronx]

11 minutes ago, D-Tunez said:

Really? Thats hard to believe for me haha, isnt San Andreas alone bigger than GTA V?

no. v's map dwarfs the original san andreas. 

this is how the map looks with no fog: 

[Space Cowboy]

11 minutes ago, D-Tunez said:

Really? Thats hard to believe for me haha, isnt San Andreas alone bigger than GTA V?

San Andreas does a really good job of masking it's small size with the fog, draw distance etc. Once you get rid of that, you would see how tiny the game map actually is.

[livesunderthelighthouse]

I think the reason is very simple. Money. Money and time. Mafia is a completely different game, smaller, set in an open city, but with a closed story-driven gameplay structure. Grand Theft Auto, on the other hand, is a big sandbox filled with extra content. It takes a lot of work. Too much considering that Rockstar is cooking VI in the meantime.

[MrBreak16]

15 minutes ago, D-Tunez said:

Really? Thats hard to believe for me haha, isnt San Andreas alone bigger than GTA V?

GTA San Andreas's map is only half the size of GTA V's map

[Pete4000uk]

1 hour ago, Len Lfc said:

Same, I started from GTA 1. I remember when GTA was just another PlayStation game lol

A very controversial PlayStation game.

[Orthur]

5 minutes ago, 0909090 said:

San Andreas does a really good job of masking it's small size with the fog, draw distance etc. Once you get rid of that, you would see how tiny the game map actually is.

True, it's magical what Rockstar pulled off on PS2. Smokes & mirrors

 

[LaszloR1]

9 minutes ago, Alex Von Bronx said:

no. v's map dwarfs the original san andreas. 

this is how the map looks with no fog: -snip-

It feels bigger with fog, but I'd still play if it had "infinite" draw distance. In fact I did some playthroughs with mods like that. It didn't look as bad as it did on youtube because I used many supporting mods for better tree draw distance and vegetation stuff. Also better night lights and it was a great experience to play like that. I don't get why people say it would ruin the experience to see everything.

Edited October 16, 2021 by LaszloR1

[Wesk_]

20 minutes ago, D-Tunez said:

Really? Thats hard to believe for me haha, isnt San Andreas alone bigger than GTA V?

no its smaller, but it feels bigger because of how the map is structed, draw distance fog etc 

 

GTA SA still has the best gta map though imo

Edited October 16, 2021 by Wesk_

[OOI]

34 minutes ago, Zapper said:

It's very much likely these three games will share the same animations, generic textures and effects, ambient sounds and other assets in a way that maintains a parity between the look and feel of them, which in term reduces the file size.

 

Now GTAV itself was 60GB game when it came out on PC back in 2015 and did contain a handful of online DLC packs, notably Heists, so let's say the SP portion of GTAV takes 50-55GB space on PC. And if I am not wrong the maps of GTA3, VC and SA combined are smaller than GTAV's map. So assuming they'll keep the scale of the maps same (which they will) around 40GB for 3 of them isn't unreasonable at all if they are trying to reach something close to GTAV visually. 

 

At the end of the day this is an arbitrary comparison since they're using different engines and compression techniques has evolved in last 5 years but it might just justify the file size requirements 

 

This is an answer I've found with information about the original GTA IV install size.

Don't know if it is correct (someone here might know), but it should give an indication of what to expect.

Just make a search for GTA IV in the text.

 

https://www.quora.com/How-much-space-does-each-feature-of-a-videogame-takes/answer/Rex-Spaulding

https://www.quora.com/How-much-space-does-each-feature-of-a-videogame-takes

 

There you go:

Spoiler

Next, let’s look at a much more graphically intense game: GTA IV (without the DLC, as it’s essentially a “copy” if you will - EFLC is 15GB, just like GTAIV folder.)

• GTA IV - 15.1 GB, as installed on my drive.
  • “common” - this folder contains much of the data used for how shaders work, how the characters, weapons, cars behave; etc. Mostly scripts. 90 MB - Only about 0.5% of total…
  • “movies” - this contains a few .bik files - used in the “TV” you can watch in your apartments.(Bink-encoded full-motion video files for games). 1.76 GB (12% total).
  • “pc” - this contains all the rest of the “magic” of the game: 13.1 GB (87%)
    • “anim” - animations of the characters, car door opening, guns firing, etc, 695MB. (5% total)
    • “audio” - all the SFX, the music, the radio stations, the dialogues. 6GB. (40% total)
    • “data” - a mashup of the maps, meshes, scripts for what things do, etc. 5.63GB (maps makes up 5.38GB alone) 37% total.
    • “html” - 30MB for the in-game Web… had to include that just because it takes up 30 freaking MB for a computer within a game…
    • “models” - all the models for the weapons, vehicles, pedestrians, etc. 819MB (pedestrian content being 661MB) 5% total
    • “textures” - all the miscellaneous textures not contained in the “data” and “models” .img files. 51MB
  • The other 1% is the .exe and .dll files, miscellaneous settings, etc.
  • This gives:
    • Movies (watch TV in apartments) - 12%
    • Audio (music, dialogue, sounds, etc) - 40%
    • “Data” (including the maps - where everything is placed, boundaries, trashcans, etc) - 37%
    • Models - 5%
    • Animations - 5%
    • Miscellaneous (textures, .exe, in game browser, minor scripts) - 1%

GTA IV, similar to Terraria, has a large chunk of space to sounds/music. The big difference is that GTA IV has a lot of 3D models, location data, etc. More graphics, in other words. Essentially sound and graphics take up the most.

If you explore the folders of other games, you’ll find a similar thing - sound and graphics (or movies) are the space-takers. And the reasoning behind this is simple: no matter how much scripting/programming you do - it’s all words, essentially in files similar to word docs. Even a million lines of code would be under 100MB.

But sound - you can’t compress that very much without severe loss in quality. So every spoken word, every “ugh” and “BAM,” every gunshot, every bullet casing hitting the floor, every fly buzzing - that’s all sound files that take up quite a bit of space.

Graphics, similarly, are more than just .jpgs these days. There’s all sorts of 3D meshes, the animations for them, the shaders, the 3D locations, etc. That takes up quite a bit of space.

 

Edited October 16, 2021 by OOI

[MWebb677]

20 minutes ago, modern2k16 said:

Wanna see GTA The Trilogy: The Definitive Edition midnight launch. A line of people in front of the store

I went to the Midnight Launch of GTA5 and it was the craziest thing. I almost saw someone die. It was at a Gamestop in a strip mall so they had a line of people that extended out the door, but then made a 90 degree turn otherwise it would have went out into the street. People were standing in the road regardless, but like right off the curb. Well when people were coming out after they got their copies, because of the line, they couldnt see traffic coming from their left. So this dude in this Corvette was all pissed off because people were in the street and being loud, so he thought it would be cool the floor it passed the front of the store, I'm sure he was going every bit of 55 mph, and this chick and her boyfriend almost stepped right out in front him. It was literally a matter of inches. Then 3 dudes who got their copies came out of the store screaming and yelling, and got into this jacked up pickup, and one of them got in the back and had this huge American flag and was waving it and screaming as they tore off. I'll never forget that night!

[Jabalous]

21 minutes ago, Alex Von Bronx said:

no. v's map dwarfs the original san andreas. 

this is how the map looks with no fog: 

 

True, and there's no comparison. But when you put both maps in their historical context, SA's was arguably groundbreaking relative to its time. The same cannot be said about V's, at least not to the same level of SA's.

Edited October 16, 2021 by Jabalous

[MaccerKuntPaul]

22 minutes ago, Alex Von Bronx said:

no. v's map dwarfs the original san andreas. 

this is how the map looks with no fog: 

Man, they really pulled some magic off to make that work right

[Americana]

Grand Theft Auto V's map is the biggest in the series, but - apart from Vice City - feels like it's the smallest.

[Alex Von Bronx]

Yeah. V's map is huge but it has very long render distance and straight highways that run the entire map

[IsaacDK503]

Vice City is the smallest one 

Edited October 16, 2021 by IsaacDK503
Grammar

[(Vip)Met]

VC's map is ridiculously small by today standards 

[HeyGta]

2 minutes ago, IsaacDK503 said:

Vice City is the smaller one 

Yet the best

[D-Tunez]

27 minutes ago, Alex Von Bronx said:

no. v's map dwarfs the original san andreas. 

this is how the map looks with no fog: 

Damn thats not big at all when I played it it always feels really big

[(Vip)Met]

Just now, D-Tunez said:

Damn thats not big at all when I played it it always feels really big

Vehicles speed, motion blur when driving and fog do the trick

[Zapper]

 

[HeyGta]

26 minutes ago, livesunderthelighthouse said:

I think the reason is very simple. Money. Money and time. Mafia is a completely different game, smaller, set in an open city, but with a closed story-driven gameplay structure. Grand Theft Auto, on the other hand, is a big sandbox filled with extra content. It takes a lot of work. Too much considering that Rockstar is cooking VI in the meantime.

Hangar 13 were also in a bad time. 

[IsaacDK503]

GTA V is the biggest but it is very empty and full of mountains 

[modern2k16]

GTA SA map is big and I hope that won't change by increasing draw distance in remastered version

[FaviousM]

1 minute ago, modern2k16 said:

GTA SA map is big and I hope that won't change by increasing draw distance in remastered version

I agree, I think the image posted a little while back without the fog is a great example of why increasing draw distance alone wouldn't necessarily be a good thing

[Prst]

12 minutes ago, (Vip)Met said:

Скорость автомобиля, размытость изображения при движении и туман делают свое дело

Rather, a competent layout of the city. 

[Jabalous]

Two figures that we'll stumble upon again! Careful out there!