sefus Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 I always imagined the Ballas and Vagos, being based off the Latin Kings and Bloods, would they be multistate? Like for example would there be a east coast/Midwest set of the Ballas canon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 I dunno, but I remember seeing a Grove Street Families graffiti texture in Las Venturas (SA PS2 version). Make of that what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hong Meiling Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Well the Vagos has been confirmed to be multinational Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhettoJesus Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 17 hours ago, idontcareanymore said: I dunno, but I remember seeing a Grove Street Families graffiti texture in Las Venturas (SA PS2 version). Make of that what you will. Most likely just laziness on behalf of R* rather than an actual clue to these gangs existing outside of LS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CynicalMexican Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Given that there are Bloods and Crips across the world I say yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakka387 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) On 10/1/2021 at 11:46 AM, sefus said: I always imagined the Ballas and Vagos, being based off the Latin Kings and Bloods, would they be multistate? Like for example would there be a east coast/Midwest set of the Ballas canon? Vagos are NOT based on the Latin Kings... the Diablos in GTA3, GTA:A, & LCS are the 3D era equivalent of the Latin Kings. Spanish Lords in GTA 4 & CTW are the HD era equivalent of the Latin Kings. The only reason the Vagos wear yellow is to differentiate itself from IRL gangs as to not show favoritism on Rockstars part (Same reason Grove wears green, San Fierro Rifa wears Tourquise & Ballas wear Purple) Ballas are not based on the bloods, infact the Ballas are a combination of multiple gangs thrown into one, just like the Grove St Families. again, not to show favoritism. Infact, in GTA Vice City, the Bloods are specifically referenced on the in-game radio station K-Chat as existing in Vice City, being started by a guy who was inspired by one of the speakers (Thor). Edited October 2, 2021 by Wakka387 OREOBOREALIS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtafaninwest Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 I always assumed the Purple Nines was a splinter set of the Ballas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjmthe2nd Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Ballas are more like Crips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakka387 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 35 minutes ago, rjmthe2nd said: Ballas are more like Crips Wrong, Ballas are a mixture of multiple different Blood, Crip, Hoover gangs. Same with the Grove St Families. Game companies do this to avoid showing "Favoritism" to specific gangs 4 hours ago, gtafaninwest said: I always assumed the Purple Nines was a splinter set of the Ballas. They are a splinter group of the "South Side Hoods", just like the Red Jacks are. They have ZERO relation to the "Ballas" OREOBOREALIS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjmthe2nd Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Wakka387 said: Wrong, Ballas are a mixture of multiple different Blood, Crip, Hoover gangs. Same with the Grove St Families. Game companies do this to avoid showing "Favoritism" to specific gangs They are a splinter group of the "South Side Hoods", just like the Red Jacks are. They have ZERO relation to the "Ballas" Reason behind them being more like Crips and Families more like Bloods is because of the set names, the gang signs they throw up and the color. Grape St Crips wear purple, Tree Top Piru wear green, Rollin Heights Ballas = Rollin 20/60s Crips, there's more but I don't feel like going in depth atm. The neighborhoods are flipped around though. Edited October 9, 2021 by rjmthe2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakka387 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, rjmthe2nd said: Reason behind them being more like Crips and Families more like Bloods is because of the set names, the gang signs they throw up and the color. Grape St Crips wear purple, Tree Top Piru wear green, Rollin Heights Ballas = Rollin 20/60s Crips, there's more but I don't feel like going in depth atm. Again, it is a mixture, not limited to a single section. I have talked about this topic extensively on my other account before it was banned several years ago, there are multiple gang influences in each of the SA gangs, it is not just limited to "Bloods & Crips". Piru are also not "Bloods", they are their own thing, named after Piru st in Compton. They just have a long time alliance with Blood sets due to rivalries with Compton crip gangs. I could go hours talking about this. Besides, Bloods are part of the GTA Lore anyway, as I mentioned before, in Vice City there is a direct reference to a blood gang based there on the ingame radio. A video of which I linked above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjmthe2nd Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Wakka387 said: Again, it is a mixture, not limited to a single section. I have talked about this topic extensively on my other account before it was banned several years ago, there are multiple gang influences in each of the SA gangs, it is not just limited to "Bloods & Crips". Piru are also not "Bloods", they are their own thing, named after Piru st in Compton. They just have a long time alliance with Blood sets due to rivalries with Compton crip gangs. I could go hours talking about this. Besides, Bloods are part of the GTA Lore anyway, as I mentioned before, in Vice City there is a direct reference to a blood gang based there on the ingame radio. A video of which I linked above. Piru and Bloods split off from each other. No there isn't a blood gang in the GTA universe (not in the sense as a the African American street gang) you just know the base history via Google, you're not exactly educating anyone on anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakka387 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 30 minutes ago, rjmthe2nd said: Piru and Bloods split off from each other. No there isn't a blood gang in the GTA universe (not in the sense as a the African American street gang) you just know the base history via Google, you're not exactly educating anyone on anything. A. Piru were specifically separate from the Bloods, they did not split off. They have their own history, feel free to ask anyone from compton about it, they will explain it to you. In fact, I am pretty sure there are videos on youtube from people who grew up in compton that can also explain it to you. B. listen to the video linked above. It is obviously an african american male who states that he was starting a gang called "The Bloods". He uses a lot of 80s slang as well when expressing what it is he wants the gang to do. C. I assume you are some generic kid who wants to act like they are some kind of "Gang Expert" because you grew up with eminem and think its cool or whatever the f*ck it is you kids think these days. This ain't it, kid. Stop capping and grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-Biker Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) It would make sense for Families, Ballas, Vagos, Aztecas, Marabunta Grande, Spanish Lords and other GTA gangs to be present in multiple cities,but so far the only gang shown present in more than one city are The Lost MC,being shown in Liberty City and Alderney in GTA TLAD and in Los Santos in GTA 5 (and also the 3D universe Liberty City Italian mob,with Leones, Forellis and Sindaccos being present in Las Venturas,and Forellis trying to expand to Vice City in 1986) Edited October 9, 2021 by GTA-Biker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OREOBOREALIS Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) Spoiler Maybe who knows but,, I think ballas are more based on crips than blood and families are bloods or pirus. But probably their kind of fictive mix. Vagos are based on surenos (southern california mexican gangs), not latin kings. Rockstar games is just avoiding using real life gang colors. Los Aztecas are probably based on maravillas aka the Los Angeles mexican gangs who did not join the big collective surenos thing like most mexican gangs in LA). Marabuntas are based on el salvadorian mara salvatrutcha. San fierro rifa is based on northern california mexican gangs the nortenos. Edited October 14, 2021 by Mktz1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidzy Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) On 10/9/2021 at 1:12 AM, Wakka387 said: Again, it is a mixture, not limited to a single section. I have talked about this topic extensively on my other account before it was banned several years ago, there are multiple gang influences in each of the SA gangs, it is not just limited to "Bloods & Crips". Piru are also not "Bloods", they are their own thing, named after Piru st in Compton. They just have a long time alliance with Blood sets due to rivalries with Compton crip gangs. I could go hours talking about this. Besides, Bloods are part of the GTA Lore anyway, as I mentioned before, in Vice City there is a direct reference to a blood gang based there on the ingame radio. A video of which I linked above. The Piru Street Boys were the founding formation of the Bloods sets to combat the rising Crip alliances. Just like the Crips with no real direction, the Bloods split up and the Pirus went back to being Pirus. It's widely known that GSF are based on Bloods and the Ballas on Crips, it's smart business for Rockstar to publicly say they're not based on any. Edited October 10, 2021 by Fidzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Muffins Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) I think it's up for interpretation. There's no clear answer and both the Ballas and Families seem to share similarities with both Crips and Bloods. Of the main characters, Ryder is clearly inspired by Eazy-E and voiced by MC Eiht who were both part of Kelly Park Compton Crips irl. Sweet and CJ seem to be inspired by Dre and Ice Cube who didn't align with any gang but had associations with Crip members. But then Big Smoke and OG Loc seem to be based on Suge Knight and Tupac who were associated with Mob Piru Bloods. They're an amalgamation of both gangs. Done on purpose to avoid controversy and they use green and purple because GTA is a parody of real life and not an exact replica. I guess you could say that they chose green and purple because of Grape Street Crips and Lime Hood Piru but if GSF were supposed to be Bloods then that still doesn't explain why half the main characters are influenced by irl Crips. The concept of two African American street gangs fighting a turf war in LA is clearly inspired by the Crips and Bloods but they tossed in these contradictory references on purpose so you can't say which gang they are primarily influenced by. Edited December 2, 2021 by Jimmy Muffins lil vader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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