Do you want Arthur Morgan in RDR 3?

[billiejoearmstrong8]

6 hours ago, Middle Class Roadman said:

Anyone think Landon Rickets could be the protagonist in RDR3? Even if they veer away from the VDL gang they'll still be involved somehow and Landon Rickets probably would have crossed paths with Dutch, Hosea and possibly Arthur at some point - not to mention he had involvement in the Blackwater massacre. It would actually make a ton of sense for him to be the next protagonist. 

 

I feel like it's less likely since the actor who played him is dead. They could get another actor especially as he'd be much younger but idk, his voice was a very distinctive part of the character.

[Middle Class Roadman]

2 hours ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

 

I feel like it's less likely since the actor who played him is dead. They could get another actor especially as he'd be much younger but idk, his voice was a very distinctive part of the character.

 

Yeah I thought that but I'm pretty sure they could find someone with a similar voice - like you said he'd be much younger so there would need to be some slight differences in his voice. Also Uncle had a different voice actor in RDR1.

[billiejoearmstrong8]

2 hours ago, Middle Class Roadman said:

 

Yeah I thought that but I'm pretty sure they could find someone with a similar voice - like you said he'd be much younger so there would need to be some slight differences in his voice. Also Uncle had a different voice actor in RDR1.

 

Yeah it could still be done. Just makes it less likely imo

Edited December 21, 2021 by billiejoearmstrong8

[Middle Class Roadman]

I kinda feel the people who want to see an entirely brand new set of characters are forgetting that RDR is not GTA. Thats always been a staple of GTA - with every new game comes a new cast of characters, new location and new storylines. The RDR franchise is probably always gonna revolve around the VDL gang in some way shape or form - feel like I'm the only person who thinks abandoning them and implementing an entirely new set of characters would feel strange. Would be like Naughty Dog releasing TLOU3 but completely abandoning the core characters that made the first two games so great. 

[billiejoearmstrong8]

13 hours ago, Middle Class Roadman said:

I kinda feel the people who want to see an entirely brand new set of characters are forgetting that RDR is not GTA. Thats always been a staple of GTA - with every new game comes a new cast of characters, new location and new storylines. The RDR franchise is probably always gonna revolve around the VDL gang in some way shape or form - feel like I'm the only person who thinks abandoning them and implementing an entirely new set of characters would feel strange. Would be like Naughty Dog releasing TLOU3 but completely abandoning the core characters that made the first two games so great. 

 

I think the difference with Red Dead is that Red Dead Redemption should probably always be about the same characters/story, but there's also the option to do Red Dead [something else] and make it something separate/new, as established with the first game Red Dead Revolver. If it's Red Dead Redemption 3 then I agree with you but they could go the other way with it.

[Ironside]

On 12/23/2021 at 1:15 PM, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

 

I think the difference with Red Dead is that Red Dead Redemption should probably always be about the same characters/story, but there's also the option to do Red Dead [something else] and make it something separate/new, as established with the first game Red Dead Revolver. If it's Red Dead Redemption 3 then I agree with you but they could go the other way with it.

Yes, this exactly. Make a Red Dead Revenge or something with other characters in a fictional version of the old west that is not dying. Like the timeframe 1865-1885 would be nice, gold rush in the Black Hills could be an inspiration. The late timeframe of RDR1 and RDR2 is too late for my taste actually, RDR2 is still probably my favorite game ever but I know there are better timeframes for even better westerns that could and should be made by Rockstar. I would love to play a “Cullen Bohannon” type of character with a gang of ex s confederate soldiers that faces the morality of the war, both the bad their side stood for and the bad the other side has inflicted upon the southern states. One could even better be a black ex-confederate soldier that is now a free man in a gang of mixed ex union soldiers and ex confederate soldiers that is damaged by the war and united in their quest for meaning. It could be called Red Dead Revolution. 

[JB1982]

So after some debate with myself I have voted for "Should be close with the main character and be playable in the Epilogue (like John in RDR 2)".

 

I am voting for this based on the idea that RDR3 is another prequel about the Van Der Linde gang. If that's the route that they go, I think it would be good symmetry with both RDR1 and RDR2. I think there's a lot of potential in telling further stories about this group. RDR2 is rich in detail when it comes to characters talking about the past, making mention of the characters they lost prior to the game such as Jenny and the Callander brothers but even hints that there were others with them at various points. And if you think about it, that makes sense because Arthur makes mention that he was with Dutch and Hosea for at least 20 years so who knows how many people came and went from the gang over that period. For me, there's definitely potential there for something.

 

But I'd also be equally happy with the other options. I'd love to play as Arthur again in a full game but I can't see Rockstar doing that. They tend to prefer creating new protagonists for games so I think it's more likely that Arthur is going to be playable in the Epilogue only at best. But I'd be happy to see him involved in a NPC way, even just a cameo. And if he's not involved at all... well, that's okay too. I can always replay RDR2 if I am missing Arthur.

[IzzyBlues]

I don't understand the idea of people being done with the OG gang.

 

I'm strongly of the opinion that RDR3 should follow the route of another prequel with the gang in their tight knit/golden days. Not only would it exemplify and give even more substance to RDR2's tragic story of how the gang fell apart, but it would also make a lot of sense because there are a full cast and array of characters to explore even more on a deeper level, and we will also be able to see past gang members that weren't there before and some of the OG cast join in at the time, such as Jenny and Micah. Have Arthur and John present, but as cameo's as the story won't be so focused on John.

Edited January 22 by IzzyBlues

[Edward RDRIII]

2 hours ago, IzzyBlues said:

I don't understand the idea of people being done with the OG gang.

 

I'm strongly of the opinion that RDR3 should follow the route of another prequel with the gang in their tight knit/golden days. Not only would it exemplify and give even more substance to RDR2's tragic story of how the gang fell apart, but it would also make a lot of sense because there are a full cast and array of characters to explore even more on a deeper level, and we will also be able to see past gang members that weren't there before and some of the OG cast join in at the time, such as Jenny and Micah. Have Arthur and John present, but as cameo's as the story won't be so focused on John.

Who do you think that should be the protagonist of the next game if it's the final story about the Van der Linde Gang then? Dutch himself, Mac Callander (since him, Jenny and someone else who was a traitor and got killed in camp are the only ones we haven't seen physically) or someone else?

[IzzyBlues]

1 hour ago, Dudu RDRII said:

Who do you think that should be the protagonist of the next game if it's the final story about the Van der Linde Gang then? Dutch himself, Mac Callander (since him, Jenny and someone else who was a traitor and got killed in camp are the only ones we haven't seen physically) or someone else?

One of the Callander boys, yes. Probably Mac as it follows on from the river/lake dynamic that was explained/theorized in that YouTube video a while back.

[Edward RDRIII]

41 minutes ago, IzzyBlues said:

One of the Callander boys, yes. Probably Mac as it follows on from the river/lake dynamic that was explained/theorized in that YouTube video a while back.

I also think that Mac Callander will be the protagonist of a possible Red Dead Redemption 3, but unlike what Agent Milton says and what most of us think, I don't believe Mac is dead, but actually that he is being protected by the Pinkerton Detective Agency in a sort of Witness Protection Program and probably got a different name now too (just like Michael Townley/De Santa in GTA 5) and maybe he is even working as a spy to help the Pinkertons track down his former gang without being detected by them of course, having some real close calls where he is just about to be noticed, but manages to hide somehow. This approach would be interesting because for the first time ever in the Red Dead series we would play as the actual rat of the game, being behind everything which causes the Van der Linde gang to be destroyed, and if the game will be set in the same locations as Red Dead Redemption 2, then they can expand the actual map's scale to be more realistic, making settlements, towns, cities, counties and states bigger than they already are, while also adding more locations to the map. For a idea such as this one to work, the game would rely heavily into stealth mechanics, at least after the Blackwater events unfolds, having major shootouts prior to it where Mac obviously would showcase his talent as a gunslinger and after the ferry robbery, the missions would become more and more based on stealth/spionage, well, Mac could even be watching Arthur, Jack and Agents Milton and Ross during the mission "A Fisher of Man" from the top of one of those hills around the Dakota River, the possibilities are endless and only Rockstar Games knows what's next, but it's always cool to speculate.

Edited January 22 by Dudu RDRII
Comment corrected.

[JumpingKentFlash]

Of course I want both Morgan and Marston in a potential RDR3.  They simply have to make it. It’d be a misstep to not make that game, set earlier and ending with the failed Blackwater heist. Instead of going north as a map expansion (RDR2), they could go further south and expand on Mexico. Imagine a protagonist that’s a survivor of the Mexican-American war, who ends up in Dutch’s gang.

He could of course die in the end of the game, but you wouldn’t be able to control Arthur after, since he fled with Dutch. It’d be awesome to have a whole game in Mexico that goes to New Austin and go to Blackwater in the end. 
 

My God, I’d play the sh*t out of it.

[Gettin up]

No I don't really want Arthur or John in RDR3.

As much as I liked to play as Arthur, I think no.

Should appear only in a stranger side mission or a random event.

[VenusianDream]

Assuming the next game is another prequel, I think Arthur should just be another member of the gang like Javier, Bill, and John was, except this time we don't play as him in the epilogue. We can interact with him and do a few missions and activities with him but that's all.

 

As for the next protagonist, I think Mac would be the best choice and then we can maybe play as Davey in the epilogue or even have a dual protagonist switching system similarly to GTA V.

Edited January 31 by VenusianDream

[Cutter De Blanc]

I've said in another topic, it'd be interesting if we played as a lawman trying to bring down the Van Der Linde gang in their heyday. It would be fascinating to have our beloved gang of outlaws cast as the plot-armored antagonists. Especially Arthur.

Edited January 30 by Cutter De Blanc

[Lemoyne outlaw]

1 hour ago, Cutter De Blanc said:

I've said in another topic, it'd be interesting if we played as a lawman trying to bring down the Van Der Linde gang in their heyday. It would be fascinating to have our beloved gang of outlaws cast as the plot-armored antagonists. Especially Arthur.

no i don't think that would be very good. i am all for playing as a lawman. but going after the van der linde gang would not be very good. because we already know how most of them die. like you said having all those characters have plot armor would be boring. i think it would be better to have the lawman go after a new gang that we don't know.

[Cutter De Blanc]

48 minutes ago, Lemoyne outlaw said:

no i don't think that would be very good. i am all for playing as a lawman. but going after the van der linde gang would not be very good. because we already know how most of them die. like you said having all those characters have plot armor would be boring. i think it would be better to have the lawman go after a new gang that we don't know.

I don't think they'd work as the MAIN antagonists (that wouldn't be very satisfying). Maybe chasing the Callander brothers or something though

Edited January 30 by Cutter De Blanc

[JB1982]

12 hours ago, Cutter De Blanc said:

I don't think they'd work as the MAIN antagonists (that wouldn't be very satisfying). Maybe chasing the Callander brothers or something though

Could be an interesting idea. The redemptive arc of the game could be centred on why the lawman is chasing the gang. What have they done to him/her that has the protagonist chasing them all over the new map. 

 

But maybe it would need to be someone new still as although we never saw the Callander brothers, we know their fate. So having the lawman chase another previously unheard of member of the gang (given that Dutch and Hosea rode together for over 20 years, there's a good chance that there have been others in the gang over that time that we have potentially yet to meet) would allow for the gangs inclusion but also provide some mystery over the games outcome. Does our protagonist succeed in capturing/killing the antagonist, do they fail etc. 

[Peckinpah]

I want to be a corrupt Lawman, no Van Der Linde gang though, please. 

[Rez090]

So no future sequels, just prequels? Red Dead will truly be a dead series by then.

[DenjiChainsawman]

Yea if we’re still having the main focus as the Dutch gang but before Rdr2

[Sean800]

Only as a cameo or a secondary character.

[OceanSpray]

I WANT AUTHOR MORGAN AS A PLAYABLE MAIN CHARACTER IN RD3! I will gladly not play the series again if the legendary Author Morgan is not a playable main character! The way he died in game was horrible, and I would love to see him back, he is the only reason I played the game. I feel like he should continue to be a main character, honestly he made rd2 what it is in my opinion. So yeah @Rockstargames_dev please bring author Morgan back as a main character, he deserves it. And plus I feel that his story was patchy and incomplete.

[OceanSpray]

On 1/23/2022 at 3:45 AM, JumpingKentFlash said:

Of course I want both Morgan and Marston in a potential RDR3.  They simply have to make it. It’d be a misstep to not make that game, set earlier and ending with the failed Blackwater heist. Instead of going north as a map expansion (RDR2), they could go further south and expand on Mexico. Imagine a protagonist that’s a survivor of the Mexican-American war, who ends up in Dutch’s gang.

He could of course die in the end of the game, but you wouldn’t be able to control Arthur after, since he fled with Dutch. It’d be awesome to have a whole game in Mexico that goes to New Austin and go to Blackwater in the end. 
 

My God, I’d play the sh*t out of it.

Author has to make it!

[Old Man With No Name]

We had Clint Eastwood Style protagonist in Red Dead Revolver & Red Dead Redemption (John Marston & Red Harlow)

We had Charles Bronson Style protagonist in Red Dead Redemption 2 (Arthur Morgan)

Now we need Lee Van Cleef Style protagonist in future Red Dead Game

 

[The Artist]

On 2/7/2022 at 12:06 PM, Rez090 said:

So no future sequels, just prequels? Red Dead will truly be a dead series by then.

They can't go forward in time though. Then it will no longer be Red Dead

[Sean800]

I'd like Otis Miller to be RDR3 protagonist, honestly. He never actually appears during the game but I love his character and what is told about him. He's considered to be one of the greatest legends of the West, thanks to novels, but the hard truth is that his last years were a nightmare to him. As Black Belle says, don't confuse what's famous with what's true. In his last years Otis Miller was constantly afraid of being killed by those who searched for him (the law, I guess), and at the end he was killed by the Tatum brothers, the only people he trusted. This is the true face of the Wild West. 

 

As for Arthur, he was a teenager in 1882 (presumably when Miller was slain, since he's based on Jesse James). So he could still appear as a secondary character. 

[Dick Justice]

I would like for the protagonist to be the man who kills Lyle Morgan, connecting the two protagonists in a small but meaningful way. 
 

now picture the scene of a young boy picking up Lyle Morgan’s gambler hat and putting it on and tell me you don’t want this too. 

 

[Edward RDRIII]

On 5/25/2022 at 10:03 PM, Dick Justice said:

I would like for the protagonist to be the man who kills Lyle Morgan, connecting the two protagonists in a small but meaningful way. 
 

now picture the scene of a young boy picking up Lyle Morgan’s gambler hat and putting it on and tell me you don’t want this too. 

 

I'd rather play as Lyle Morgan himself or Micah Bell II, also no one said someone killed Lyle, Arthur just said he watched him die.

[Jabalous]

No, and this also applies to any major character in Redemption and Redemption 2.