GTA Online Coming to PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S March 2022

[Lonely-Martin]

1 minute ago, RyuNova said:

 

It's been thrown around in the office if not implemented into the game. They know exactly how many people play in Invite Only and I bet it's a sizeable portion of them, they will want to drive people away from Cayo Perico Invite Only sessions. It would not even surprise me if they either nerf Cayo payouts or put a one or two hour cooldown on it.

 

 

The NAT Type "fix" freed me and my friend for a while but Cayo and Tuners dragged me back in as its Invite Only.

 

Yeah, the MTU thing works for both GTA:O and RDRO on PS4 and PS5 for now, but it would be a move I can't support and would put me off as I enjoy on call too much to use the MTU thing fully. I hardly play RDRO so wouldn't really miss that, but I do enjoy GTA:O but it would all but confirm to me that the RDRO way is the way forward, and that's where my online gaming with R* ends.

 

I think RDRO is a backward step in all but map, but that map is in story mode anyway, so I'll still enjoy it. Just would be a shame to see the freedom we have keep getting reduced and the choices compromised. There's vast room in both games to offer more IMHO. But it seems R* want to control how we play more with RDRO and I'd dread GTA:O following suit.

[RyuNova]

3 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

But it seems R* want to control how we play more with RDRO and I'd dread GTA:O following suit.

 

They don't want players to enjoy the game or at least the upper suits don't, they want to strangle and herd the player base into buying MTX's with more and more sh*tty Mobile game practices.

Edited September 14, 2021 by RyuNova

[Lonely-Martin]

1 minute ago, RyuNova said:

 

They don't want players to enjoy the game or at least the upper suits don't, they want to strangle and herd the player base into buying MTX's with more and more sh*tty Mobile game practices.

 

Yeah. The terms 'undermonitised' and 'freeloaders' remain strongly looming over these games. 

 

I'm not holding my breath for anything good in terms of freedom to come, but we'll see next year. I hope they don't but if they do, I had a good run in GTA:O, and it'll just confirm RDRO isn't for me going forward, finally. I want to know either way asap really. Shame the trailer didn't confirm anything like this either way. 

[RyuNova]

1 minute ago, Lonely-Martin said:

Yeah. The terms 'undermonitised' and 'freeloaders' remain strongly looming over these games. 

 

 

He should never be allowed to forget those words. If there was ever a time for people who too much time on their hands, the sort of people that do console war sh*t, to come together it should be to destroy (figuratively, not literally) him and R* for sh*t like that and the recent E&E trailer.

[Lonely-Martin]

2 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

He should never be allowed to forget those words. If there was ever a time for people who too much time on their hands, the sort of people that do console war sh*t, to come together it should be to destroy (figuratively, not literally) him and R* for sh*t like that and the recent E&E trailer.

 

It would be fantastic to see the community actually work together and the company embrace it. 

 

But with PC vs console, PvP vs PvE, and story vs online squabbles, these guys just enjoy profiting from splitting the audience. We could never be united, people would rather just get abusive and threatening on their own instead, and give developers no reason to want to engage even if they wanted. 

 

Not that they're showing too keen to talk of course, but as much as this trailer caused a stir, it has gone too far from 'us' too (I mean some gamers in general and not you and me, or anyone person specifically).

 

A shame really, it could be so much better in so many ways with the money earned and potential created. 

[SilverRST]

Lol, look at the amount of dislikes of the video

 

I can not comprehend this insane corporate greed. And that stupid cancerous sack of sh*t named Straus Zelnick is in meanwhile sueing the modders because the modders made a much much better versions of how remasters actually has to be done of the GTA3, VC and SA. What is this kind of insanity? This simply has no consent.

[DRS|PYRO]

The biggest mistake Rockstar has made is favoring PS players. This cock sucking on Sony is the most disgusting thing ever. These actions are extremely gamers unfriendly. I have always enjoyed playing GTAO. But I play it a week after each DLC and then throw the game back off the hard drive to make room. Rockstar's games have no game value in the long run.

Edited September 14, 2021 by DRS|PYRO

[Jenkiiii]

13 hours ago, awesomefoot said:

Take-Two is 100% a video game company. All their money is from gaming.

Whereas it's only 7.7% for Microsoft, I totally get it.

 

It feels like TaKe-Two Interactive are getting desperately greedy to maintain or even enhance income through GTA because that's realistically all they've got, whereas Microsoft can afford to invest heavily in quality of life updates instead of going for the revenue-based gaming jugular all the time.

 

Coupled with the incongruous relationship between Rockstar - who keep themselves to themselves until the last possible minute - and T2 - who constantly push for more profits for their shareholders - there seems to be a really weird dynamic that's revealing more stress-based cracks.

[RyuNova]

So....

What if, yea? Right, what if they "delayed" the E&E version in favour of selling the GTA Trilogy Remaster over Christmas? They know that E&E will sell, it will sell amazingly well but why compete with your self?

[Geisterfaust]

On 9/13/2021 at 5:57 PM, Spider-Vice said:

If you don't want it, it's not your thing and think it's a cash grab then that's what you should do - yelling isn't going to do that much other than annoy yourself, and others.

I disagree. It's not how public opinion works and public opinion is important in decision making both in industry and in the government. There's no reason not to be sound about your dissatisfaction and to transofrm your dissatisfaction to act together with others, this  is how low level political activism works. It is important not only not to buy it, but to say why you don't want it and it's equally important to talk with your friends and tell them about it, they may feel the same way. This forums are being watched by T2 BI analysts and they are taking notes. If we love GTA and want to see the franchise as the console-selling genre defining game and not some money grabbing crap like NBA we should not be silent. Although people could flame too much from time to time and it's getting annoying to mod, I agree. But come on, Spyder, yelling works.

[Hécate-II]

I would definitely recognize R* efforts if they made it 60FPS(solid, not just in a corner of the map in Chumash or Tatavian) for consoles. But from what I saw its catastrophic. In fact I must admit I myself widely, very widely conceived the eventuality to move on PS5, and re-start an account there, because I don't care that much about rank/money...despite all the time invested on my PC accounts. So I'm kinda disappointed. Ofc course the final result could be diametrically different from what the trailer featured in term of technical improvements for console. 

 

Its really bad. And don't tell me the game looks better in 30FPS and 0% scaling distance. Or whatever the PC setting. 

 

 

 

Edited September 14, 2021 by Hécate-II

[Cahill--EFC]

So having finally managed to reserve myself a Playstation 5,  after months & months of set backs of stores not stocking enough.

 

I should have it delivered in a weeks time,  after doing the setting up and transferring..... i wonder if its worth playing through GTA5 Story again, even though it would still be the PS4 edition until March 2022. 

[SilverRST]

I'll just leave it here:

 

 

[ACR]

Now that sh*tshow is kinda settled down a bit and given that what you saw in trailer is likely what you'll get in final E&E product, do some of you think that providing E&E for free to those who already own it on platforms they are playing on would somewhat rectify current situation?

 

Even though chances for that are slim given how they already announced that only online portion is free and for 3 months to ps5 only, maybe they'll follow same policy when it comes to pc/xbox although some speculate that visual "improvements" will only be available to consoles while pc will remain the same which also means no any purchase if you already have it. 

Personally, i don't see how they would charge full price or even any at all for basically same existing game on pc. Even with some graphical options added, i don't see how they will "sell" it as something new when it looks the same. Other than something one will have to purchase again just to have future updates support, there is no other reason and even that is scummy behaviour but we are talking about T2 anyway. 

 

Whereas situation for consoles is kinda different, they are getting improvements in tersms of framerates and resolution after all, that's something that was always available to PC depending on hardware players are running it on. 

[RyuNova]

2 hours ago, Geisterfaust said:

I disagree.

 

You would think the Mods of an "independent" GTA Fan Site would be more vocal when the fans of the game, which includes them, are getting f*cked over. But no, they are either silent or telling people to shut up and accept it.

[Geisterfaust]

1 hour ago, ACR said:

Now that sh*tshow is kinda settled down a bit and given that what you saw in trailer is likely what you'll get in final E&E product, do some of you think that providing E&E for free to those who already own it on platforms they are playing on would somewhat rectify current situation?

The thing is that R* fails in communication so bad that we don't even know what the E&E is. We have seen the trailer with the new plates, but we really don't know anything about what's under the hood. It could be literally fully reworked game or just a graphical overhaul for consoles and skeptic in me believes in latter, but the fact is that we don't know! And I personally don't care because Online is dèpassé. It's like playing San Andreas in 2011, completely ridiculous.

 

 

[ACR]

2 minutes ago, Geisterfaust said:

The thing is that R* fails in communication so bad that we don't even know what the E&E is. We have seen the trailer with the new plates, but we really don't know anything about what's under the hood. It could be literally fully reworked game or just a graphical overhaul for consoles and skeptic in me believes in latter, but the fact is that we don't know! And I personally don't care because Online is dèpassé. It's like playing San Andreas in 2011, completely ridiculous.

 

 

Jokes aside, we know those yellowy plates are just filter bug, i do think they gonna implement some background improvements, at least i hope so, those improvements could fix various bugs and make the game and framerates more stable. Other than that i can't see anything vastly better in terms of overall visuals, explosions and smoke effects look better, but that's about it. All of that is not enough to justify paying full or even any price at all for the same game. Updating traffic with never generation of previous car models, as well as exterior, billboards to 2021 would be nice and give minimal impression that they at least care about GTAO universe. But like you said, no communication and we won't know anything likely until month or less before release.

[Geisterfaust]

19 minutes ago, ACR said:

All of that is not enough to justify paying full or even any price at all for the same game. Updating traffic with never generation of previous car models, as well as exterior, billboards to 2021 would be nice and give minimal impression that they at least care about GTAO universe.

I've played on 360, One and PC over the period from 2013 to late 2019 almost on daily basis. I can assure you, these things won't make your experience better because I've tried that with mods on PC, it only goes for a short period of time. Don't believe me? Just play in PC and make your own impression. Your mileage will vary, but one thing is sure: there's nothing that will make V/ Online a new game and there's no need to wait for it. The game is old and should not be around for that long. It's not good enough to be around for that long. The only reason it's around is because R* succeeds at postponing even announcing next GTA.

[ACR]

4 minutes ago, Geisterfaust said:

I've played on 360, One and PC over the period from 2013 to late 2019 almost on daily basis. I can assure you, these things won't make your experience better because I've tried that with mods on PC, it only goes for a short period of time. Don't believe me? Just play in PC and make your own impression. Your mileage will vary, but one thing is sure: there's nothing that will make V/ Online a new game and there's no need to wait for it. The game is old and should not be around for that long. It's not good enough to be around for that long. The only reason it's around is because R* succeeds at postponing even announcing next GTA.

Already play on PC for more than 3 years almost every day, i care about GTAO and i know some people want it to die and that's their preference. I'm looking forward to more updates even though i often get disappointed with content added, i still play it. I don't mind current graphics on PC, i play with almost everything on very high minus grass and advanced details. If they made graphical improvements i have a feeling they would either made a performance mess or bump system requirements and only way to play that mess would be to ''brute force'' it with expensive hardware, so as it is for now this turns out quite ok for my situation given how i don't have great gaming PC for years now. What i wanna know and that's gonna wait is will PC receive ''new version'' and in that case how much or if they gonna charge at all... Seeing how they mentioned only only free for 3 months for PS5 and no mention about other platform, i think they fully intend to sell same game yet again. They know they can behave that way because there are no competitors of this genre on the market and that's gonna continue for half a decade for sure.

[Geisterfaust]

4 minutes ago, ACR said:

Seeing how they mentioned only only free for 3 months for PS5 and no mention about other platform, i think they fully intend to sell same game yet again. They know they can behave that way because there are no competitors of this genre on the market and that's gonna continue for half a decade for sure.

Well, @Commander S is quite sure that we're not getting a new PC version and somehow I'm quite convinced with his line of reasoning, but it's in another topic. So PC players should get all the content for free, I think.

 

On 9/13/2021 at 9:37 PM, Commander S said:

Well, there's the fact that PC isn't getting it, for one thing - PC will get the new bonus items/vehicles/whatever, but the lack of a PC upgrade beyond that suggests that there's nothing coming that isn't already part of the PC version. For example, if PC were getting a comparable upgrade patch, I'd wonder if ray-tracing might be coming - but without anything new on PC, I reckon it's more likely just 'PC-equivalent settings on PS5/Xbox Series, maybe some GTAO stuff put into single-player, and that's about it'.

 

Personally, that's all I expected from "E&E", though: PC parity on new consoles, now that there are consoles able to run GTA V at 4K 60fps. Not really worth the upgrade if you already have the game, IMO (and they're having a laugh if they end up pricing it at $60 or higher), but I still think that "E&E" is as much aimed at new players coming into gaming this generation as anyone, and so it's worthwhile for R* to have a 'current gen' version of the game to target those customers. That's why they didn't bother with a free enhancement patch for PS4 Pro/Xbox One X: it's not about boosting performance for existing console players (because most people keep buying/playing the game just fine without), but instead about keeping GTA V on store shelves and in the Top 10 Physical Sales charts, rather than being dismissed as a 'last gen' game and put in the bargain bin.

[DRS|PYRO]

When fanmade trailers (1 april joke) kick more than Rockstar does xD

 

 

I wonder why Rockstar doesn't just give real modders a job instead of suing them. 

[RyuNova]

R* - "Lets port half the RDR1 map to RDR2, improve all the textures, lighting, add NPC paths etc and include it in the main game for free along with an entirely new chapter of the story that could have easily been DLC. Did we mention it was free?"

Also R* - "Port Liberty City to the PAID GTAV E&E Edition like the players want? Lol, f*ck you, buy E&E and keep playing the same 2013 map like a good little bitch"

Edited September 14, 2021 by RyuNova

[SilverRST]

21 minutes ago, DRS|PYRO said:

 

 

I wonder why Rockstar doesn't just give real modders a job instead of suing them. 

It's probably not R*, it's highly likely TakeTwo scums suing the modders. And the stupid thing is, they are suing the modders of the remastered or those who have reverse-engineered the GTA 3D era. They're trying to get the files from the modders to use them for their "remasters". I could be wrong but the timing is just way too perfect.

 

And the other stupid sh*t is they c&d the GTA maps mods. And for what?! Remember what TakeTwo did to OpenIV? R* doesn't care really that much because they know modders makes their games alive and thriving and R* even posted mods on their newswire years ago. It's just the T2 scums f*cking it up for everyone.

[PkUnzipper]

On 9/9/2021 at 5:06 PM, joel15cat said:

f*ck off Los Santos.

 

No.

 

f*ckity f*ck da f*ck offs

 

Seriously.  I can't believe the number of fan boi likes to OP post. THIS is the reason why R* will never feel inspired to make a new and decent GTA 6. 

 

Why waste millions of resources in dev time and effort when you can be Bugthesda's Bottom Bitch? Basically milk the franchise teat dry. Re-release the nth remaster of the same damned game -- with lighting tweaks  and ZERO NEW GAME PLAY --- over the next decade?

 

And esepcially when you've got 100% absence of market competition (YES SAINTS ROW [email protected] I'M LOOKING AT YOU). And that's before you factor in blind fan boi devotion, drip feed junkie crack heads, and whale shark card groupies who insist of buying R* digital cancer currency.  This basically sums up how I feel. Being bitch slapped while being gang raped by R* execs.  Seems R* has finally dropped the act pretending they don't believe the fanbase is dumber than a rock. The last remaining Houser brother is alreay laughing his greedy @$$ all the way to the bank

 

 

Exactly HTF will  re-releasing the same damned game on next gen PS improve the GTA franchise?? Wait... no....don't care.  Will be interesting to see how creative black hat modders will get trying to hack the game on PS5

Edited September 14, 2021 by PkUnzipper

[KonaSquid]

13 hours ago, DRS|PYRO said:

The biggest mistake Rockstar has made is favoring PS players. This cock sucking on Sony is the most disgusting thing ever. These actions are extremely gamers unfriendly. I have always enjoyed playing GTAO. But I play it a week after each DLC and then throw the game back off the hard drive to make room. Rockstar's games have no game value in the long run.

It's business. They were contractually obligated to make a PlayStation Exclusive game (Agent) but never did. So now Sony has marketing rights.

[Shadowfennekin]

13 hours ago, RyuNova said:

R* - "Lets port half the RDR1 map to RDR2, improve all the textures, lighting, add NPC paths etc and include it in the main game for free along with an entirely new chapter of the story that could have easily been DLC. Did we mention it was free?"

Also R* - "Port Liberty City to the PAID GTAV E&E Edition like the players want? Lol, f*ck you, buy E&E and keep playing the same 2013 map like a good little bitch"

The thing is they could easily double dip here.

Remake Liberty City for GTA V AND make a GTA IV remaster!

 

Liberty City would certainly fulfill the "Expanded" quota which so far remains unfilled. It's just 'enhanced', barely any difference between console versions despite XBX and PS5 leaving XB1 and PS4 in the dust with hardware

7 hours ago, KonaSquid said:

It's business. They were contractually obligated to make a PlayStation Exclusive game (Agent) but never did. So now Sony has marketing rights.

Nope. Sony's trying to compensate for their micro penis by buying 'exclusive' timed sh*t left and right!

 I hope the CEO f*cking chokes on a cock and dies.

Edited September 15, 2021 by Shadowfennekin

[RyuNova]

@Shadowfennekin

 

An entirely new (to GTAV) map to explore, new business opportunities, new events, new characters etc. 

[Lonely-Martin]

38 minutes ago, Shadowfennekin said:

Nope. Sony's trying to compensate for their micro penis by buying 'exclusive' timed sh*t left and right!

 I hope the CEO f*cking chokes on a cock and dies.

 

Na, they're just copying what Microsoft did with GTA IV and how they got the DLC earlier through some circle jerk agreement.

 

I do agree it all sucks, but if Sony are guilty, Microsoft are just as bad.

[Kiethblacklion]

So many comments on here that I agree with. 

 

It wouldn't be quite so bad if Rockstar made significant changes to the map or or fixed some of the features so that everything is a bit more balanced; ie, revamp vehicle prices so that older, outdated vehicles don't cost as much as the newer ones, let us play the Balsaq Market, etc. But the reality is, they are just doing the bare minimum to be able to call it an E&E version and players are going to have to buy an Xbox X/S and buy a new copy of GTA5/O in order to continue playing because eventually, support on the Xbox One version will be shut off like they did with the 360 version and I doubt they will wait as long as they did with the previous generation. Frankly, I'm not looking forward buying the same game for a third time, just so I don't lose all the progress that I have made in Online over the past 8 years.

[Big Molio]

I would bet any money that they don't even bring the Online map up to the level of detail that the Story map has, with greater population density, more traffic congestion, rubbish bags outside houses, litter everywhere etc