Older GTAO Vehicles that deserve Revisions.

[Marciliojunior01]

54 minutes ago, Hong Meiling said:

 

Zirconium isn't even a Japanese car maker. Why would you have an issue with Annis being both Nissan and Mazda but not with Grotti, Pegassi and Lampadati doing the same exact thing?

Lampadati is already 3 brands into one 

[éX-Driver]

7 hours ago, Hong Meiling said:

 

Zirconium isn't even a Japanese car maker. Why would you have an issue with Annis being both Nissan and Mazda but not with Grotti, Pegassi and Lampadati doing the same exact thing?

95% of the cars under Grotti are either Ferrari or Ferrari stablemates, the same can be said for Pegassi. I’m using Zirconium as as a Japanese equivalent to Lampadati, as a sort of catch-all for any non-famous marque similar to how Lampadati is a wastebin marque for Italian cars that aren’t Ferrari/Lamborghini. I did change the manufacturer of a few Pegassis as well (FCR1000 for example) that you seem to have not cared about. 
 

we don’t know what Zirconium is, there’s only two vehicles in the game under the nameplate. One is a generic estate with Japanese styling cues, and the other is a bloody RV. 

[Marciliojunior01]

3 hours ago, éX-Driver said:

we don’t know what Zirconium is, there’s only two vehicles in the game under the nameplate. One is a generic estate with Japanese styling cues, and the other is a bloody RV. 

I would say zirconium is something like eagle or geo. An american brand that rebadges vehicles from other brands and resell them. The stratum would be something like a skyline wagon rebadged and slightly changed and the RV is more like something they though they could sell so they slaped a logo and called a day. 

[éX-Driver]

4 hours ago, Marciliojunior01 said:

I would say zirconium is something like eagle or geo. An american brand that rebadges vehicles from other brands and resell them. The stratum would be something like a skyline wagon rebadged and slightly changed and the RV is more like something they though they could sell so they slaped a logo and called a day. 

That’s pure speculation on your part, though. 

[ddarko12]

Branding in this game is so arbitrary it's hardly even worth debate anymore, because I just accept the fact that Rockstar does whatever the f*ck they feel like on any given day. They badged the older Jester and the Jester RR as Dinkas simply because they named that crappy ass excuse for a modern NSX a Dinka Jester back in the days when they would revive old names onto completely unfitting cars. There's no science to it, they're just inconsistent. That's why this whole focus on keeping everything "true to the lore" makes me cringe so hard that my teeth hurt. Zirconium... I don't even think Rockstar knows what that brand is. Or cares. It's kind of a throwaway brand. Sort of like Lampadati and Ocelot. Any obscure British car that isn't a Jaguar? Oh, just make it an Ocelot. Any obscure Italian car that isn't a Maserati? Lampadati. And let's put Pagani under the brand that's based off of Lamborghini. Don't even get me started on Karin.

 

They don't know what they're doing, don't care, and it is a complete waste of time to try and make any sense of it. I do think it's harmless to suggest rebrands in this thread however. For some reason that always seems to be a contentious topic, god knows why. It always boggles my mind how serious some people will take some fake ass unlicensed brands to where you can't even offer your thoughts onto why a car should be badged as something else.

Edited August 25, 2021 by ddarko12

[TobeyM71]

The Pegassi Osiris (Pagani Huayra) definitely needs an update/newer version (I believe a modder has already done this, but I hope Rockstar does it as well), and is the number 1 vehicle that I want revised for the current times.

Other vehicles I would want revised would be the Ocelot F620 (Jaguar XK/Maserati GranTurismo), a refreshed Dinka Jester (with some NSX Type-S cues), Enus Cognoscenti Cabrio, and the Cheval Picador (El Camino).

I'm sure someone else has thought of this, but it would be cool to merge the BF Weevil and the Injection, either giving us an off-road upgrade for the Weevil (my preference), or the other way around.

 

[BelegUS]

3 hours ago, TobeyM71 said:

Other vehicles I would want revised would be the Ocelot F620 (Jaguar XK/Maserati GranTurismo)

 

F620 is actually one of not many cars where mashing up two real cars into one created something unique and nice looking. I love F620 and don't think it needs much changes, apart from more mod options and better quality model.

[Hong Meiling]

6 hours ago, ddarko12 said:

Branding in this game is so arbitrary it's hardly even worth debate anymore, because I just accept the fact that Rockstar does whatever the f*ck they feel like on any given day. They badged the older Jester and the Jester RR as Dinkas simply because they named that crappy ass excuse for a modern NSX a Dinka Jester back in the days when they would revive old names onto completely unfitting cars. There's no science to it, they're just inconsistent. That's why this whole focus on keeping everything "true to the lore" makes me cringe so hard that my teeth hurt. Zirconium... I don't even think Rockstar knows what that brand is. Or cares. It's kind of a throwaway brand. Sort of like Lampadati and Ocelot. Any obscure British car that isn't a Jaguar? Oh, just make it an Ocelot. Any obscure Italian car that isn't a Maserati? Lampadati. And let's put Pagani under the brand that's based off of Lamborghini. Don't even get me started on Karin.

 

They don't know what they're doing, don't care, and it is a complete waste of time to try and make any sense of it. I do think it's harmless to suggest rebrands in this thread however. For some reason that always seems to be a contentious topic, god knows why. It always boggles my mind how serious some people will take some fake ass unlicensed brands to where you can't even offer your thoughts onto why a car should be badged as something else.

Rebranding is fine if the original branding was clearly erroneous in the first place to begin with like the Kuruma being under Karin and not Maibatsu or the Supra based cars being under Dinka. What I have issue is when the car is already under the correct brand and someone decides to rebrand them under a completely wrong brand, literally making a mistake when there wasn't one to begin with.

 

Also, Pegassi already has Pagani influence since GTA IV.

[darkmaster234]

Watchdogs 2 fiammetta is literally what the turismo r should have looked like in this game. Thats how you portray a ferrari.

Edited August 25, 2021 by darkmaster234

[ddarko12]

3 hours ago, Hong Meiling said:

Also, Pegassi already has Pagani influence since GTA IV

That's merely a design cue on the Infernus which is primarily Murcielago.

 

It would be like badging a Ferrari as a Dewbauchee just because most Dewbauchees have a few design cues taken off of Ferraris (and they do actually, Super GT was part 550 Maranello, Rapid GTs have California exhaust and other bits, Massacro has F12 features, Seven-70 has many more F12 features, etc). The Osiris is just Pagani with some LaFerrari influence, no Lambo in it whatsoever.

Edited August 25, 2021 by ddarko12

[MekhiSkyline]

I always felt like the Ocelot Lynx's design could be improved a little bit, especially with the rear.

 

And hopefully the Ellie gets the Dominator GTT treatment (Alot of ppl didn't really like the Ellie since it was too squarish, probably the same case with the 2nd Gen Stanier)

[Marciliojunior01]

1 hour ago, MekhiSkyline said:

I always felt like the Ocelot Lynx's design could be improved a little bit, especially with the rear.

 

And hopefully the Ellie gets the Dominator GTT treatment (Alot of ppl didn't really like the Ellie since it was too squarish, probably the same case with the 2nd Gen Stanier)

 

From what i was told the ellie is more squarish because the eleanor itself has copyright that belongs to the movie studio instead of Ford, and movie studios tend to take copyright a lot more aggresivelly than car manufacturers. 

About the lynx the exterior is fine, just give it the colourable FMJ interior (for real the interior is the only thing that puts me away from buying this car, and for some reason they used the same interior for the tailgater S instead of using the FMJ or Nero ones) and the highly customizable v8 and we are good to go. 

[svilen87]

8 hours ago, MekhiSkyline said:

I always felt like the Ocelot Lynx's design could be improved a little bit, especially with the rear.

I think it's more likely they'll add the facelifted F-Type instead of revisiting the old one.

[Tennyzulander]

The Rumpo should be a Vapid, not a bravado because it's a Ford Econoline cargo van. 

Ford Econoline 

 

 

Stock form

 

[MekhiSkyline]

2 minutes ago, Tennyzulander said:

The Rumpo should be a Vapid, not a bravado because it's a Ford Econoline cargo van. 

Ford Econoline 

 

 

Stock form

 

EXACTLY!!!!!!

[MekhiSkyline]

Updated Vacca & Infernus anyone?

 

Spoiler

Also Updated Cognoscenti & Cognoscenti 55? (Needs liveries and more customization, Especially for the Armoured Variants)

Benny's Upgrade for 55 (Maybach 57s Coupe by Xenatec)

 

R* PLZ ADD A LANDAULET OPTION FOR COGNOSCENTI PLZ

 

Also an Updated 2nd Gen Oracle 

 

 

Edited September 4, 2021 by MekhiSkyline

[gekko94]

On 8/20/2021 at 4:09 AM, Robin1996ify said:

Since the thread is alive again, i would present you a car that desperately needs a makeover.

 

Monroe, the Italian car that had double identity (or identity crisis) as a 1960's American car (Ford GT-40, duh).

 

 

Where to begin?

 

1. The front need to be replaced with a more appropriate Miura looking one, then put the old front to the new Bullet classic (if R* plans to make one for E&E)
2. The rear is pretty ok except to replace the Corvette inspired rear light with the one from the Rapid GT classic.
3. The overused classic, wood-trimmed interior needs to be replaced with the one from the Rapid GT classic (honestly it looks similar to the real one).

The changes for this thing is pretty minimal since it was well proportioned to the real one and Monroe has been one of my favorite sports classics car.

 

 

EDIT: Almost forgot that the wheels needs to be changed to the Toreador one.

 

 

 

Honestly it was reproduced much better in Driver Parallel Lines than in GTA V.

Edited September 5, 2021 by gekko94

[Pedinhuh]

5 hours ago, gekko94 said:

 

 

 

Honestly it was reproduced much better in Driver Parallel Lines than in GTA V.

I really miss this game.

[MekhiSkyline]

6 minutes ago, Pedinhuh said:

I really miss this game.

Same, I literally played the hell outta Parallel Lines, its so underated.

[Robin1996ify]

2 hours ago, Pedinhuh said:

I really miss this game.

 

My favorite car in the game, the Cerva. Based on the 1971 "boattail" Buick Riviera.

 

 

If only R* added those...

 

[Econobrick]

This Doesn't apply to PC players, I guess, but here's an easy one for them...

take this:

and just do the maximum of 2 hours of work to make it this again:

99% of the work is already done for them... (the interior is already updated to current standards)

 

Of course, an '82 Malibu sedan or '81 Pontiac LeMans / 82-86 Bonneville would be way cooler (in my opinion) or a mid-80's Lincoln Continental... but they'd never do any of those things.

 

This is the least they could do to add a car of this type.

They could do it even quicker by simply wiping the snow off it and taking the chains off the tires, but why even bother bringing up rockstar's bizarre aversion to letting players own a car that even remotely resembles a police vehicle?

Edited September 6, 2021 by Econobrick

[Marciliojunior01]

@Econobrick

Using the model from gta 4 and porting it to V is a lot easier than removing the snow and other police bits from the esperanto. They could do the whole process in less than a day, if they haven't yet is just because they don't want to. 

We can point out many reasons as to why, the main one to me is that simply adding a car like this would be so below their current standards that the community would be completely pissed off. In order to add this they would have to give it a new interior, a new engine bay and most important customization on pair with most recent cars (im not even talking about the tuner dlc ones). Making all these customization options for a lowish poly 13 yo 3D model simply isn't worth the effort. At this point is much easier to create the car from scratch. 

But what about the futo GTX ? Yes the Futo is an exception but my guess is that it was so requested by the community to have a trueno corolla that they decided to revise the whole thing and i can bet you it was harder to make that old 3D model to be on pair with the current standard than to make the annis remus from nothing. 

[Econobrick]

19 minutes ago, Marciliojunior01 said:

@Econobrick

Using the model from gta 4 and porting it to V is a lot easier than removing the snow and other police bits from the esperanto. They could do the whole process in less than a day, if they haven't yet is just because they don't want to. 

We can point out many reasons as to why, the main one to me is that simply adding a car like this would be so below their current standards that the community would be completely pissed off. In order to add this they would have to give it a new interior, a new engine bay and most important customization on pair with most recent cars (im not even talking about the tuner dlc ones). Making all these customization options for a lowish poly 13 yo 3D model simply isn't worth the effort. At this point is much easier to create the car from scratch. 

But what about the futo GTX ? Yes the Futo is an exception but my guess is that it was so requested by the community to have a trueno corolla that they decided to revise the whole thing and i can bet you it was harder to make that old 3D model to be on pair with the current standard than to make the annis remus from nothing. 

I agree completely. But... as long as it was included in an upcoming large update similar to the most recent one with so many other new vehicles, who would complain?

 

I mean, yeah... somebody invariably would. But, consider it a bonus, even if it didn't have many or even any new modification options or upgrading the model's quality.

 

I mainly brought this up because it's one of the easiest possible things they could do to add a "new" car. (and it just happens to be one of my favorite cars from GTA IV... but I know most people don't care about it)

In this case, I think the reason that they haven't done it already is because they never thought about it! And who could blame them?? Considering the amount of people that work in a company that large, the turn-over and how few (if any) of the same people who worked on the game 8 years ago are still there and remember this car that is only used in one sequence of the game.

 

Some fans do... very few, of course. But some.

Edited September 6, 2021 by Econobrick

[III-Blackbird_]

The Obey 9F need a modern version ! A ultra customisable R8 model like Benny's level

[Marciliojunior01]

19 minutes ago, Econobrick said:

I agree completely. But... as long as it was included in an upcoming large update similar to the most recent one with so many other new vehicles, who would complain?

 

I mean, yeah... somebody invariably would. But, consider it a bonus, even if it didn't have many or even any new modification options or upgrading the model's quality.

The only way i can see this work is if they add the car at a absurdely cheap price like 10k or just add it to the traffic pool (which needs an update desperately) without people noticing. Which are two behaviours that rockstar never had in the past. 

The last time they added a vehicle with zero customization and regular price was when the revolter released and we all know how that one went.

17 minutes ago, III-Blackbird_ said:

The Obey 9F need a modern version ! A ultra customisable R8 model like Benny's level

I don't see an R8 with Bennys customization ever happening, if they ever added a new R8 it woud be based on the newer generation and have supercar standard customization level like some splitters, spoilers, exaust, the usual stuff. 

[Econobrick]

13 minutes ago, Marciliojunior01 said:

The only way i can see this work is if they add the car at a absurdely cheap price like 10k or just add it to the traffic pool (which needs an update desperately) without people noticing. Which are two behaviours that rockstar never had in the past. 

The last time they added a vehicle with zero customization and regular price was when the revolter released and we all know how that one went.

1. They don't give a sh*t one way or the other about how that went.

2. Keep arguing on the behalf of a multi-million dollar company against a drunk autistic guy on labor day weekend who has nothing better to do and gave up giving a sh*t about what he was saying halfway through the last reply.

Edited September 6, 2021 by Econobrick

[Marciliojunior01]

37 minutes ago, Econobrick said:

1. They don't give a sh*t one way or the other about how that went.

2. Keep arguing on the behalf of a multi-million dollar company against a drunk autistic guy on labor day weekend who has nothing better to do and gave up giving a sh*t about what he was saying halfway through the last reply.

I apologize if it seemed like i was defending them, i was just trying to discuss the most likely scenario, didn't intend to come off as a white knight or something. 

I do agree with your statement that we should have the esperanto and all the other cool gta 4 cars in 5 like the 80s version of the sabre or the uranus. 

[MekhiSkyline]

8 hours ago, III-Blackbird_ said:

The Obey 9F need a modern version ! A ultra customisable R8 model like Benny's level

 

Definitely 

 

And a Stock Jugular

[lnterloper]

Glad to see that this thread is still alive, this made me do another of those Photoshops after seeing that people are still rating those up, and talking about improving the looks of some cars, and I saw some people talking about the X80 in another Topic about the "ugliest cars in GTA".

 

First of all, the X80 is a Hypercar, and those tend to have function over form, second, as always, I try to not change too much as the point is fixing rather than making a new car. My biggest problem with the X80 Proto is the visible shocks, I hate them, looks like something that kids would think as cool, something you would see in a Hot wheels model; doesn't look realistic since you can easily imagine those coils and shocks being jettisoned inside the cockpit during an accident and that thing would never receive any type of homologation. So in order to accommodate this shocks, we have an unnecessary big windshield that in my view is detrimental to the looks and proportions of the car, and even after reducing it a lot, still looked weird, so I gave it a sunshade effect around the edges.

 

[MekhiSkyline]

I wish the Dubsta's fenders didn't look too big and the front bumper was smoothed out 

 

A bit off topic, but R* really needs to improve Damage physics, the current physics we have in the game dont really feel right, you can t-bone someone and there wont be a dent on there car wtf. Even Mafia 2 had good damage physics.

Also with Mafia 2, the crashes would either harm or kill the player, here some other examples.

And etc.