Older GTAO Vehicles that deserve Revisions.

[wei wei]

7 hours ago, C-Rhee said:

I wish more cars received Spyder variants of the original model, much like with the 9F and 9F Cabrio. Convertibles seriously need more love.

 

Heck, they might not even have to do that. They could instead update a certain subsection of cars and give them the option to remove a portion of their roof like with that seen on some of the Coquette family and the Pfister 811. I don't see that being too hard to do. Just imagine a Jester Classic with a removable roof.

 

i've been saying this forever. IRL, i like moonroofs/sunroofs, T-Tops/Targa Tops, and Verts. we should see these versions in-game more often.

[C-Rhee]

15 minutes ago, wei wei said:

i've been saying this forever. IRL, i like moonroofs/sunroofs, T-Tops/Targa Tops, and Verts. we should see these versions in-game more often.

Precisely. You've also made me realize how much I want a Targa S2 now, so I'm upset that it doesn't exist and won't ever exist.

[MekhiSkyline]

9 minutes ago, C-Rhee said:

Precisely. You've also made me realize how much I want a Targa S2 now, so I'm upset that it doesn't exist and won't ever exist.

Frfr man, hopefully in the future tho, I also hope we get chinless bumper options for the ASP (And make splitters a separate option)

Etc, Of course a Convertible Option 

 

Also why not add a older SN95 Mustang @Tennyzulander

Spoiler

Convertible 

 

 

[79'Blazer4x4]

There are quite a few rust buckets in the game that deserve a non-rusty version. The Voodoo(technically there's the Benny's version, but it might as well be riding on walnuts with how small the wheels are on it), the Rebel(also has a clean version, but all the customization is limited to the rusty one for some reason), the Duneloader, the Injection, and possibly more that I can't think of right now.

[Bigglo145]

Let us take off the sunstrip off the vulcan nebula. And let us put a mesh grill on the gresley

[ddarko12]

9 hours ago, C-Rhee said:

I wish more cars received Spyder variants of the original model, much like with the 9F and 9F Cabrio. Convertibles seriously need more love.

I don't understand it tbh. When the game first came out, they did this. And then they started following the path of racing games and just adding one version of a car, usually the most performance oriented. Cars like the Tempesta could've had a convertible variant and they didn't bother.

 

They made a big deal with using the working convertible roofs feature as a gimmick, and then barely add any convertibles via DLC. What DLC cars have a working roof, that god awful Windsor 4-door drop and the new RT3000? It's a shame

 

Anyway onto more cars that need revisions:

 

When GTA V came out, obviously there was going to be way more premium/luxury cars than in GTA IV. With GTA IV, there were a lot of filler cars that existed to add realism. But they were usually based on cars irl that were mediocre and boring so it was fine.

 

But, outside of really low-end base trims, most premium/luxury cars have something special about them and more personality. But instead, GTA V treated them like plain traffic fillers. So we have a bunch of luxury cars roaming the streets that look half-assed, drive like sh*t, sound like sh*t, and nobody cares about them at all.

 

 

Rocoto for example. Based on a Porsche Cayenne, but badged as an Obey. It has a sh*tty plastic 90's interior, sounds like air, and is slow as sh*t. Even a base, lease spec Cayenne is better than that. And then you have the S, the GTS, the Turbo and the Turbo S. They could've, and should've based it on the GTS or Turbo and gave it a meaty but quiet V8 engine note, with 0-60 in 4.7s and a modern-ish interior.

 

 

Or the Serrano. This is a TBoGT car, but still. It has a swoopy 90's plastic dashboard and it has V12 and 6.5 Supercharged badges everywhere but sounds and performs NOTHING like that. It sounds like a crappy little 4 or 6 cylinder, and it drives like some horrible little Nissan Rogue. I mean come tf on. Is it too much to ask to make cars like this fun? If every car in this game had some level of care poured into it, with unique characteristics, most people would be happy to drive anything and would actually bother to steal cars off the street which is what makes GTA GTA.

 

This game is full with so many crappy ass cars like these. Most of them are from 2013, but still. Now, when we get SUVs we get stuff like the Rebla GTS. Where the stock version looks like an M-Sport X5 but then you can turn it into an X5M Comp. And the Novak is kind of lame but it sounds great and accelerates good. That's how it should've been from the get-go.

Edited August 21, 2021 by ddarko12

[C-Rhee]

9 minutes ago, ddarko12 said:

I don't understand it tbh. When the game first came out, they did this. And then they started following the path of racing games and just adding one version of a car, usually the most performance oriented. Cars like the Tempesta could've had a convertible variant and they didn't bother.

 

They made a big deal with using the working convertible roofs feature as a gimmick, and then barely add any convertibles via DLC. What DLC cars have a working roof, that god awful Windsor 4-door drop and the new RT3000? It's a shame

 

So many missed opportunities, and now they very very rarely release alternate versions of previously released vehicles. (Caracara 4x4, Drift Tampa, Comet Safari, Beater Dukes, etc.) Come to think of it, why does the Beater Dukes exist? Technically speaking, it's quite literally what we've all mentioned in this very thread: An OG vehicle updated to today's standards (At least in regards to customization so to speak.)

 

But it's treated as an entirely separate model from the regular Dukes. I mean yeah, I get the whole "Beater" motif but once you fix it up it's literally just a Dukes with significantly better customization is it not?.. Why not just I dunno.. update the original Dukes with all of these options? I mean I guess one could say Shark Cards but the Beater Dukes isn't that expensive in itself and it gives the original Dukes no real reason to exist beside being cheaper so why not just paste over it?

 

[HeliosAxitro]

 

 

 

An Improved Mamba with more parts, liveries, better performance and new interior. I literally wouldn't ask for anything else.

 

 

 

Spoiler

 

Except, maybe, a Benny's version based on the Daytona Coupe?

 

 

[Standard Deluxe 59]

The 811 needs a revision quite badly. The bulbous-ness needs to be shaved down a bit, the sides need to lose the roll of fat looking curves that connect to the spoiler and I think the windshield needs to slant back a bit more while the body itself needs to be a little wider.

[L3NN99]

Hi guys, loving the suggestions. I really hope reworking older cars is in R* agenda for E&E.

Existing vehicle models that I think should be reworked.

1)      Vacca (A pillar curves awkwardly. Air intakes need reworking)

2)      Cheetah (too far gone I’m afraid but the mod shown a couple pages back is a good start)

3)      Blista compact (rear wheel fitment)

4)      Buffalo & Buffalo S (remove body kit, allow us to choose mods)

5)      Carbonizzare (black interior)

6)      Locust (option to remove spoiler)

7)      Sentinal classic (fix proportions, looks tall and narrow)

      Surano (hardtop gullwing option, remove buick style side vents)

9)      Torero (Fix proportions, rear wheels seem small)

10)   Tornado custom (Allow hardtop option)

11)   Stratum (Rear overhang seems too long, allow all mods possible)

12)   Blade (fix stance, lower front)

13)   Faction (fatter tires)

14)   Hotknife (roadster option)

15)   Nightshade (remove wide body)

16)   Vamos (fix stance, lower front)

17)   Voodoo (fix proportions, looks too wide and short)

18)   Cognoscenti Cabrio (remove body kit, allow us to choose mods)

19)   Baller (tilt C pillar forward)

20)   Contender (increase wheel size, and allow bumper colors)

21)   Squaddie (fix cab proportions)

22)   Yosemite rancher (fix scale, seems small)

I got a bit carried away I think. 

[MekhiSkyline]

The Cognoscentis also need to be improved, they are starting to show there age, especially the 55 lol, and they need alot of customization and liveries.

 

Enus Cognoscenti 55 *Improved* (Maybach 57s)

Benny's Upgrade (Maybach 57s Coupe by Xenatec)

 

Enus Cognoscenti *Improved* (Maybach 62s, needs a Landaulet Option)

 

Spoiler

Some other minute things

 

Improved damage physics for E&E (Im pretty sure it was leaked if im not mistaken), the amount of force of certain crashes will either harm or kill the player. GTA 4 crash physics were definitely better than V's, although pixelated at times. E&E needs GTA 4 crash physics, just with more realism such as BeamNG, Burnout, etc. (Also its very annoying that you cant crush car roofs, making monster trucks somewhat useless in a way)

If R* adds the Annis Pinnacle, we could probably recreate that warehouse demolition derby scene from John Wick 2 with the new damage physics (hopefully).

Etc.

 

Edited August 22, 2021 by MekhiSkyline

[C-Rhee]

8 hours ago, Standard Deluxe 59 said:

The 811 needs a revision quite badly. The bulbous-ness needs to be shaved down a bit, the sides need to lose the roll of fat looking curves that connect to the spoiler and I think the windshield needs to slant back a bit more while the body itself needs to be a little wider.

 

I think it needs a new model all together. Call it the Pfister 912 or something, I dunno. Proportion wise I believe it suffers from what the Lampadati Novak does in being Wayyyyy too narrow because It hardly captures the sleek footprint of the 918. I think that making it wider and giving it a much more aerodynamic and lower sitting profile (Similar to the Itali RSX, for lack of a better comparison.) would help with most of it's issues.

 

That god awful Front end absolutely needs to cease to exist, no question about that. I actually quite like the rear end though because it resembles a modern version of the Comet Retro's (Despite how random that design choice is.), but it could probably still use some revisions back there too. It of course needs to retain it's removable roof and it Absolutely needs some Livery Love:

 

[darkmaster234]

The 811 ffs, the zentorno, the turismo r, the osiris, all the supercars from pre 2014. 

[Tennyzulander]

5 hours ago, darkmaster234 said:

The 811 ffs, the zentorno, the turismo r, the osiris, all the supercars from pre 2014. 

The Osiris is 85% most pagani hyura except the front end which is from a laferrari. The bodystyle shape and even the rear end is from a hyura. Orisis is fine the way it is. The others do need a redesign. 

[awesomefoot]

Someone mentioned in the favorite original vehicles thread, but the Picador really needs an update. Phoenix too could use some love.

 

Also I kind of wish most of those vintage cars would get removed from traffic spawns. If they have to make it so you see a dozen or more Picadors, Phoenixes, Peyotes, etc. driving around within a block or two, just pull them and make them for sale on the website or if possible rare spawns like parked in someone's garage. Replace them with some more stuff that you'd regularly see in traffic.

[Marciliojunior01]

2 hours ago, awesomefoot said:

Someone mentioned in the favorite original vehicles thread, but the Picador really needs an update. Phoenix too could use some love.

 

Also I kind of wish most of those vintage cars would get removed from traffic spawns. If they have to make it so you see a dozen or more Picadors, Phoenixes, Peyotes, etc. driving around within a block or two, just pull them and make them for sale on the website or if possible rare spawns like parked in someone's garage. Replace them with some more stuff that you'd regularly see in traffic.

Current American traffic is way too boring. If they were going full realistic there would be only suvs and trucks and your occasional 90s sh*tbox. 

[HeliosAxitro]

I like the looks of the vanilla Issi, but a hardtop version with more options, tuning and liveries would be very nice.

 

(Mod by Vanillaworks, it's not the best implementation of it but you get the idea)

http://s3.motoringfile.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/car_photo_374575_25.jpg

 

 

And speaking of Issi,

 

Really Rockstar? THIS is what you came up with?! I'd remove this POS and add a regular, more modern Issi with the same design, but without the race bits:

 

 

 

The hardtop regular Issi can just be called the "Weeny Issi S", and the non-race Sport can just be "Weeny Issi ST".
 

 

 

[ddarko12]

22 hours ago, Marciliojunior01 said:

Current American traffic is way too boring. If they were going full realistic there would be only suvs and trucks and your occasional 90s sh*tbox. 

Eh, it highly depends on where you go. I've done a lot with modifying to popgroups in my single player version of the game, it's honestly been one of my biggest focuses along with carvariations. To go full realistic you kind of have to go on a neighborhood by neighborhood basis and I think GTA IV used to be that way, but GTA V carvariations is more based on poor, middle and rich which has some irritating limits. It's so boring how things are set up in the base game, especially GTA:O which still uses a sh*tty ass popgroups from 2013.

 

To be realistic, areas like Richman, Vinewood, etc would have everything. A focus on premium cars and exotics ofc, but also vintage cars, classic muscle, JDM, etc. The basic middle class areas would be where you see just a bunch of SUVs and trucks and the basic boring suburb sh*t. And there should be certain cars you can only find in certain areas in regard to the culture of that neighborhood/part of the map. I've kept this in mind when building my popgroups and it really changed the atmosphere of the whole map.

 

And it may seem like real life American traffic is boring but, I do a lot of car spotting as a hobby and trust me, it's not unless you just stay in the suburbs then of course it's gonna be relatively boring.

[turbobenzina]

20 hours ago, HeliosAxitro said:

I like the looks of the vanilla Issi, but a hardtop version with more options, tuning and liveries would be very nice.

 

(Mod by Vanillaworks, it's not the best implementation of it but you get the idea)

http://s3.motoringfile.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/car_photo_374575_25.jpg

 

 

And speaking of Issi,

 

Really Rockstar? THIS is what you came up with?! I'd remove this POS and add a regular, more modern Issi with the same design, but without the race bits:

 

 

 

The hardtop regular Issi can just be called the "Weeny Issi S", and the non-race Sport can just be "Weeny Issi ST".
 

 

 

100% agree! What a missed opportunity. Hardtop Issi with proper R50/R53 parts would've been amazing. I hope they give it some love in the Enhanced version. Although, the Issi model is called issi2 in the files, so it means they planned hardtop version aswell which sadly has never been released.

 

I still can't understand what the fvck the person who designed the Issi Sport was thinking about... why forcing those dumb arches? Wouldn't it have been better making them as an option? Or if it had to be forced, atleast make a proper wheel fitment...

I have 3 Issi Sport, spec'd them as I'd spec a Mini, but the wheel fitment kills me everytime. I will never sell them, but please fvcking fix them Rockstar.

[Hong Meiling]

On 8/15/2021 at 3:06 PM, éX-Driver said:

•Zirconium

Savestra - rebadged Annis Savestra

ZR350 - rebadged Annis ZR350, include more classic tuner/time attack mods and single exhaust options

 

Why the hell are you rebadging the cars that are under the correct brand in the first place to the wrong brand now?

Edited August 24, 2021 by Hong Meiling

[lnterloper]

On 8/22/2021 at 2:07 PM, L3NN99 said:

12)   Blade (fix stance, lower front)

 

B.. but.. but.. the Blade is a Gasser, you know, you put a beam axle, it takes more space in the engine bay, you lift the engine, you put a bigger engine, you lift the body in the chassis, and you know, you get the gasser look, these things where for drag racing, all the blade need is some high resolution engine models, and to be wider, at least in my view.

Edited August 24, 2021 by lnterloper

[MitchMaljers]

5 hours ago, ddarko12 said:

Eh, it highly depends on where you go. I've done a lot with modifying to popgroups in my single player version of the game, it's honestly been one of my biggest focuses along with carvariations. To go full realistic you kind of have to go on a neighborhood by neighborhood basis and I think GTA IV used to be that way, but GTA V carvariations is more based on poor, middle and rich which has some irritating limits. It's so boring how things are set up in the base game, especially GTA:O which still uses a sh*tty ass popgroups from 2013.

I've been perfecting this for hours in GTA IV. So that you don't see Schafters or Cavalcades etc everywhere. 
I try to look at real life locations and what most likely would be seen in such neighbourhoods
No more rare muscle cars such as the Dukes and Sabre GT everywhere. Bohan for example now mostly consists of Japanse cars, older cheaper American cars, worker class SUV's/Pickup's and the rare occasional luxury car.

[79'Blazer4x4]

1 hour ago, lnterloper said:

 

B.. but.. but.. the Blade is a Gasser, you know, you put a beam axle, it takes more space in the engine bay, you lift the engine, you put a bigger engine, you lift the body in the chassis, and you know, you get the gasser look, these things where for drag racing, all the blade need is some high resolution engine models, and to be wider, at least in my view.

I'm all for updating the engine models, but it needs a non-gasser version as well. I want a stock Falcon without gasser suspension.

[L3NN99]

1 hour ago, lnterloper said:

 

B.. but.. but.. the Blade is a Gasser, you know, you put a beam axle, it takes more space in the engine bay, you lift the engine, you put a bigger engine, you lift the body in the chassis, and you know, you get the gasser look, these things where for drag racing, all the blade need is some high resolution engine models, and to be wider, at least in my view.

Yes a proper gasser would be cool too. Maybe they could split it into 2 variants like the peyote gasser and a bennys custom. 

[Need For Madness Auto]

Bring the update Dinka Blista.Or just put Blista to BF since its a Polo

[lnterloper]

I promised that I would get more Photoshops for the fine fellas here in this topic, and I will deliver, this time I didn't spent too much time in finesse, but you can see the overall goal here.

 

The Blade, around 5% wider, with bigger wheels in the back, the high res engine from the Peyote, with a few minor touches here and there, and a plateless front bumper option, because we are kingpins Rockstar, is just like the cop scene from John Wick, we murder several people, the cop arrives, and we ask, "noise complain?", everyone nods the head, and the cops go away.

 

Edited August 24, 2021 by lnterloper

[andyyapi]

A proper Comet retro without the RWB kit would be nice.

[éX-Driver]

4 hours ago, Hong Meiling said:

 

Why the hell are you rebadging the cars that are under the correct brand in the first place to the wrong brand now?

Annis is Nissan, Zirconium is nothing. I prefer the idea of making Zirconium into a Mazda/‘non Japanese big-3’ marque rather than haphazardly throwing Mazdas under the Nissan banner. 

[MekhiSkyline]

30 minutes ago, éX-Driver said:

Annis is Nissan, Zirconium is nothing. I prefer the idea of making Zirconium into a Mazda/‘non Japanese big-3’ marque rather than haphazardly throwing Mazdas under the Nissan banner. 

I think Zirconium is supposed to be Saturn or something.

[Hong Meiling]

2 hours ago, éX-Driver said:

Annis is Nissan, Zirconium is nothing. I prefer the idea of making Zirconium into a Mazda/‘non Japanese big-3’ marque rather than haphazardly throwing Mazdas under the Nissan banner. 

 

Zirconium isn't even a Japanese car maker. Why would you have an issue with Annis being both Nissan and Mazda but not with Grotti, Pegassi and Lampadati doing the same exact thing?