World Trade Center

[Luis Vercetti]

I had seen a video about how 9/11 had changed gta 3 drastically, one thing mentioned in that video was that rockstar COMPLETELY removed the world trade center from the game and the building next to the "Rotterdam Tower" (It doesn't have an official name so why not call it that) how ever i havent seen a single model in the game of the world trade center. beta screenshots of staunton island also do not have the building in the photo so does anyone have any clue of what happened to the towers in the game? wouldn't it be safer for rockstar to keep the towers? because then it would seem that gta 3 took place AFTER they were destroyed.

[paperbagdude]

13 hours ago, Luis Vercetti said:

wouldn't it be safer for rockstar to keep the towers? because then it would seem that gta 3 took place AFTER they were destroyed.

No. Though that would seem logical, content that includes imagery or mentioning of the Twin Towers of other contemporary media and entertainment was excluded as well. Even Lilo & Stitch (2002) had a flight scene with one airplane chasing the other, flying dangerously close to skyscrapers which was almost completely remade to a remote airspace with several voice lines and cuts being removed that may be referring to the city they were originally located at. Though that scene had absolutely no reference to 9/11, it remained a time where the attack was still deeply embedded in the American people, being an obviously sensitive topic to discuss and process, naturally because of its tragic and traumatic nature.

 

Thus leaving the Twin Towers out of the game was for best of everyone.

[Luis Vercetti]

10 hours ago, paperbagdude said:

No. Though that would seem logical, content that includes imagery or mentioning of the Twin Towers of other contemporary media and entertainment was excluded as well. Even Lilo & Stitch (2002) had a flight scene with one airplane chasing the other, flying dangerously close to skyscrapers which was almost completely remade to a remote airspace with several voice lines and cuts being removed that may be referring to the city they were originally located at. Though that scene had absolutely no reference to 9/11, it remained a time where the attack was still deeply embedded in the American people, being an obviously sensitive topic to discuss and process, naturally because of its tragic and traumatic nature.

 

Thus leaving the Twin Towers out of the game was for best of everyone.

I guess that makes sense if people were traumatized from the attack but even in beta images it wasn't seen (before 9/11) and usually when rockstar removes something from a game they dont delete it completely they just remove it from sight. the feature of exploding airplanes was disabled in the game after 9/11 but its easily re-enabled by changing the script of the game. but somehow the twin towers are completely gone from the games files. The other weird thing is that rockstar said they removed buildings that looked like the twin towers. if you go to the rotterdam tower in gta 3 there is a building next to it that does actually look like the twin towers accept its not seperated (there is glass panes between the two structures) so what was rockstar even talking about?

[Luis Vercetti]

I FOUND THE WORLD TRADE CENTER IN GTA 3. apparently rockstar removed this when you actually go across the map but if you start the game in portland and look across the trade center is still visible! this affect is in vice city too with the "ghost building" bug that happens when you are at vercetti estate. at first i thought this was a random building but when i went to staunton i couldnt find any building taller than the rotterdam tower so this here is the world trade center (twin towers) https://photos.app.goo.gl/7YVqBE2Aken3CGnM9

[xSapphirePlayz]

28 minutes ago, Luis Vercetti said:

I FOUND THE WORLD TRADE CENTER IN GTA 3. apparently rockstar removed this when you actually go across the map but if you start the game in portland and look across the trade center is still visible! this affect is in vice city too with the "ghost building" bug that happens when you are at vercetti estate. at first i thought this was a random building but when i went to staunton i couldnt find any building taller than the rotterdam tower so this here is the world trade center (twin towers) https://photos.app.goo.gl/7YVqBE2Aken3CGnM9

Nope. There never was a WTC mockup in GTA III. The building you're talking about is the FBC Bank Building, it's actually taller than the Empire State thingy and is still present in the final game.

[Luis Vercetti]

13 hours ago, xSapphirePlayz said:

Nope. There never was a WTC mockup in GTA III. The building you're talking about is the FBC Bank Building, it's actually taller than the Empire State thingy and is still present in the final game.

oh damn from far it really did look like it but i just went to staunton and saw it lol. my bad

[IlyaKostygov]

Lips FM Twin Towers at Staunton (near the Callahan Bridge) - are most close to WTC ingame. And i dont know other references to original WTC in GTA3.

UPD: Here it is.

Edited August 11, 2021 by IlyaKostygov

[xSapphirePlayz]

2 minutes ago, IlyaKostygov said:

Lips FM Twin Towers at Staunton (near the Callahan Bridge) - are most close to WTC ingame. And i dont know other references to original WTC in GTA3.

There's also the Arched Building. It isn't tall but reminds me of WTC a lot.

[Jinx.]

On 8/9/2021 at 8:57 PM, Luis Vercetti said:

I had seen a video about how 9/11 had changed gta 3 drastically

It didn't. Rockstar said that about 1% of the game changed.

https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/25o241181oaa23/grand-theft-auto-iii-your-questions-answered-part-two-911-the-gh.html

 

On 8/9/2021 at 8:57 PM, Luis Vercetti said:

one thing mentioned in that video was that rockstar COMPLETELY removed the world trade center from the game and the building next to the "Rotterdam Tower" (It doesn't have an official name so why not call it that) how ever i havent seen a single model in the game of the world trade center. beta screenshots of staunton island also do not have the building in the photo so does anyone have any clue of what happened to the towers in the game? wouldn't it be safer for rockstar to keep the towers? because then it would seem that gta 3 took place AFTER they were destroyed.

They didn't replace anything. You can see in several pictures that nothing changed. It's only Sam who said that, not Dan or anyone else.

 

 

This map is from before the E3 clips, and Portland still had the old hospital, police building, and the tall tower with the bribe pickup in the alleyway is missing. Staunton has virtually no change in terms of buildings compared to final. Granted they did remove a statue (and retextured an ad in Shoreside), but there is no building that resembles the twin tower.

Edited August 12, 2021 by Jinx.

[Lioshenka]

On 8/12/2021 at 7:25 PM, Jinx. said:

This map is from before the E3 clips, and Portland still had the old hospital, police building, and the tall tower with the bribe pickup in the alleyway is missing. Staunton has virtually no change in terms of buildings compared to final. Granted they did remove a statue (and retextured an ad in Shoreside), but there is no building that resembles the twin tower.

There were even older renders where the airport was in Staunton, and I'm pretty sure that even then there was no WTC on the plans.

[Fenrill]

On 8/9/2021 at 10:57 PM, Luis Vercetti said:

I had seen a video about how 9/11 had changed gta 3 drastically, one thing mentioned in that video was that rockstar COMPLETELY removed the world trade center from the game and the building next to the "Rotterdam Tower" (It doesn't have an official name so why not call it that) how ever i havent seen a single model in the game of the world trade center. beta screenshots of staunton island also do not have the building in the photo so does anyone have any clue of what happened to the towers in the game? wouldn't it be safer for rockstar to keep the towers? because then it would seem that gta 3 took place AFTER they were destroyed.

Nah. Almost like just 1% of the game changed. (Even i don't trust Rockstar to that extent, but vadim m made a great movie about it) 

There it is. 

 

And please don't tell me you saw the one video from bossftw..... This guy is a liar. Don't trust him at all. 

Edited May 2, 2022 by Fenrill

[Fenrill]

On 8/12/2021 at 8:25 PM, Jinx. said:

It didn't. Rockstar said that about 1% of the game changed.

https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/25o241181oaa23/grand-theft-auto-iii-your-questions-answered-part-two-911-the-gh.html

 

They didn't replace anything. You can see in several pictures that nothing changed. It's only Sam who said that, not Dan or anyone else.

 

 

This map is from before the E3 clips, and Portland still had the old hospital, police building, and the tall tower with the bribe pickup in the alleyway is missing. Staunton has virtually no change in terms of buildings compared to final. Granted they did remove a statue (and retextured an ad in Shoreside), but there is no building that resembles the twin tower.

And i don't trust sam. He is the only one left these days and seem to be more focust on money. Maybe he thought it would be good pr...... 

[Jinx.]

1 hour ago, Fenrill said:

And i don't trust sam. He is the only one left these days and seem to be more focust on money. Maybe he thought it would be good pr...... 

You can trust whoever you want, it's literally a fact that it wasn't there, with or without Sam's word, simply based on footage. And what does his state nowadays have to do with it? I know Rockstar went downhill lately but that doesn't mean their word back in the day didn't mean anything.

Edited May 2, 2022 by Jinx.

[Fenrill]

On 5/2/2022 at 7:57 PM, Jinx. said:

You can trust whoever you want, it's literally a fact that it wasn't there, with or without Sam's word, simply based on footage. And what does his state nowadays have to do with it? I know Rockstar went downhill lately but that doesn't mean their word back in the day didn't mean anything.

Did you read both textes? I said it wasn't there. I still don't trust him. I didn't said, it was there. Typical, don't read all, just got triggered and then... Yeah. And yeah. Rockstar went downhill a while ago. It's just more obvious the last years....  I just wanted to say that i would believe, that there could be a possibility of telling stuff just because of pr. He is this kind of guy. 

Edited May 7, 2022 by Fenrill

[Jinx.]

23 minutes ago, Fenrill said:

Did you read both textes? I said it wasn't there. I still don't trust him. I didn't said, it was there. Typical, don't read all, just got triggered and then... Yeah. And yeah. Rockstar went downhill a while ago. It's just more obvious the last years....  I just wanted to say that i would believe, that there could be a possibility of telling stuff just because of pr. He is this kind of guy. 

I have to admit, I did indeed rush. I didn't even notice that other post, only the quoted one. My bad. Even then, that doesn't change my point completely. Their state nowadays != their state in 2001. Especially when in 2001 they used to communicate with smaller websites. But yeah, Sam did say his fair share of BS, though R* as a whole was legit most of the time.

Edited May 7, 2022 by Jinx.

[Fenrill]

25 minutes ago, Jinx. said:

I have to admit, I did indeed rush. I didn't even notice that other post, only the quoted one. My bad. Even then, that doesn't change my point completely. Their state nowadays != their state in 2001. Especially when in 2001 they used to communicate with smaller websites. But yeah, Sam did say his fair share of BS, though R* as a whole was legit most of the time.

It's ok. Don't worry. About my thoughts about Rockstar and Take2. Please read this....