Wasted vehicles?

[universetwisters]

There's threads for favorite vehicles and worst vehicles, but what about wasted vehicles? Vehicles that aren't particularly bad, but sorta a waste of space within the game. IMO the most wasted cars (in Vice City at least) are the Walton since it doesn't make sense for some old rural looking stakebed to be in an urban modern (for the 80s) city, the Sentinel XS is moot because there's already enough sport cars, and the FBI Washington because why have two FBI vehicles!?!?!?!? I feel like it was put together for that one mission where you have to help Cortez escape Vice City and the developers were like "lol lets hide it somewhere".

[H-G]

46 minutes ago, universetwisters said:

and the FBI Washington because why have two FBI vehicles!?!?!?!? I feel like it was put together for that one mission where you have to help Cortez escape Vice City and the developers were like "lol lets hide it somewhere".

Variation I suppose? Considering it works just like the FBI Rancher, they must've thought it'd be boring and repetitive to always have an FBI Rancher chasing you so maybe they wanted to make it spawn alongside the FBI Rancher? Anyway, there's a mod that does make use of this car nicely:

[CynicalMexican]

I wanna say the Phoenix and Euros because they literally don't spawn due to a coding error in GTA SA.

 

The Tow Truck in the HD Universe. Why would anyone use such an old rusty ass beater, it should be a modern design.

 

Maybe the Bullet. It has no business in GTA SA since it's a 2004 car.

[Ivan1997GTA]

40 minutes ago, universetwisters said:

There's threads for favorite vehicles and worst vehicles, but what about wasted vehicles? Vehicles that aren't particularly bad, but sorta a waste of space within the game. IMO the most wasted cars (in Vice City at least) are the Walton since it doesn't make sense for some old rural looking stakebed to be in an urban modern (for the 80s) city, the Sentinel XS is moot because there's already enough sport cars, and the FBI Washington because why have two FBI vehicles!?!?!?!? I feel like it was put together for that one mission where you have to help Cortez escape Vice City and the developers were like "lol lets hide it somewhere".

Funny thing is, that mission, "All Hands on Deck", actually used the STANDARD variant of the Washington, and not the FBI variant. You could probably say the same thing about the FBI Rancher in Vice City Stories, which doesn't even spawn in the game at all without cheat devices.

 

Anyway, in terms of wasted vehicles, the best example I can think of is the Sweeper from GTA San Andreas. It's a street sweeper that only spawns in two locations around the map and isn't used in the traffic (even in the industrial sections of the cities), it has strobe lights that don't do anything (they could've been used in a similar effect to the tow truck from Driver: Parallel Lines, where they'd turn on, but without a siren), and, to paraphrase Bart Simpson, "it's slow, it's ugly, it handles like a shopping cart". (not that I'd expect a street sweeper to be particularly fast, mind you).

[Guest]

III: Ghost or 'Ghost missing' boat (appears in Gone Fishing mission, nowhere else)
VC: FBI Washington (should've appeared alongside the FBI Rancher during 5 stars)
SA: FBI Truck (exists in the game files, never used)
LCS: Bus (exists in the game files, never used)
VCS: Rancher (exists in the game files, never used, even though there is a Gang variant)
IV: Police Maverick (has no fixed spawn location, only appears during 3+ stars)
TLAD: Tampa (appears in only one cutscene, drivable but inaccessible)
TBOGT: Police Cruiser, Buffalo variant (only used in multiplayer)
V: Multiple Police Cruiser variants (only one variant appears during chases)

Edited August 9, 2021 by Guest

[GhettoJesus]

This might be controversial but I think the Sandking in Vice City is a huge waste of space. You can only really use it on the beaches of the eastern part of the map and that's only fun for so long. It fits San Andreas a lot better where you can do more offroading.

 

Then there is the boat called Launch in SA. It can be seen during the mission Vertical Birds and even then you don't get to drive it. It even has a cool gun emplacement on the back which is unusable.

Edited August 9, 2021 by GhettoJesus

[CynicalMexican]

You know another one that bugs me?

 

In LCS there's a civilian version of the base car for Police/Taxi that only appears in one cutscene and it belonged to Ray Machowski. Pissed me off it couldn't be obtained without cheat device.

[RamsaySaint77]

All the cars on Legendary Motorsport in Gta V and Gta Online or Southern San Andreas Super Autos on Online

 

The Cheetah, Entity XF, Vacca, Cognoscenti Cabrio, Z type, etc all don't spawn in traffic or parked, It's such a waste to have them in the game and not being able to steal them, It's even more baffling when in pre release material you can see some of the cars in traffic like the Cognoscenti Cabrio in the reveal trailer back in 2011. According to the Gta wiki, the Cheetah was supposed to spawn in traffic but there was some error in the files and that's why It doesn't appear, It likely means all the other cars would've spawned being driven or parked but for some reason Rockstar removed them or forgot to put them in there, the only one that does spawn parked is the Adder and it only spawns in traffic during a switch scene as Franklin. The Turismo R and Zentorno were added to traffic in the Eighth gen version 

 

Gta Online has this problem especially, Rockstar have added so many new cars and they can only be bought on a website and not stolen off the streets because 2013-Present Rockstar is greedy

Edited August 9, 2021 by RamsaySaint77

[[Ambient]]

The Asea (normal variant) in the original release of GTA V. I completely don't get why Rockstar thought a counterpart of the Chevy Aveo (which is sold in the US, and it's got some decent popularity there) shouldn't spawn in traffic. Luckily, the issue was fixed with the remastered version.

 

The Flatbed in GTA III, because it looked way too close to the Barracks OL. Bonus point for spawning in the khaki color, which looked like civilians could get a military truck easily.

[universetwisters]

On 8/9/2021 at 1:35 PM, Ivan1997GTA said:

Funny thing is, that mission, "All Hands on Deck", actually used the STANDARD variant of the Washington, and not the FBI variant. You could probably say the same thing about the FBI Rancher in Vice City Stories, which doesn't even spawn in the game at all without cheat devices.

 

What the f*ck lol they fooled me!

 

On 8/9/2021 at 2:45 PM, GhettoJesus said:

This might be controversial but I think the Sandking in Vice City is a huge waste of space. You can only really use it on the beaches of the eastern part of the map and that's only fun for so long. It fits San Andreas a lot better where you can do more offroading.

 

True though the beach is stupidly f*cking gigantic and kinda makes sense there. Plus for an unlockable it makes sense for it to be a bit over the top imo but I get your point and stuff

 

On 8/9/2021 at 1:34 PM, CynicalMexican said:

The Tow Truck in the HD Universe. Why would anyone use such an old rusty ass beater, it should be a modern design.

 

I feel like a lot of TLAD vehicles were wasted. Either they only show up exclusively in missions or just not at all period. Only the Rhapsody and the towtruck spawned in traffic iirc and even then the towtruck had no usable features whatsoever

[Jeansowaty]

Many SA vehicles. You can see that R* were adding in many new cars just for the heck of adding in new stuff. For example Previon and Manana are almost the same, Intruder and Willard are almost the same, Super GT and Jester have a ridiculously similar rear, Sunrise and Sultan are also very similar etc. Most of these are not even used in missions or something, they're just "there". Or the opposite, there's way too many cars that are used briefly for one moment and never touched after like the Uranus (which was a nice treat to see since I played IV first, SA later), Euros, Phoenix etc. 

[Algonquin Assassin]

Surprised no one’s mentioned the weapon equiped JB700 in GTA V.

 

I have a distain for mission exclusive content, but this bastard pisses me off because it shows up in not just one, but two missions.. 

 

I would also say the Rhino in GTA V. In the 3D era it was near indestructible, but in GTA V it’s weak sauce.

 

[Ondr4H]

For me is wasted any mission specific car. For example hearse in Vice City. And cut vehicles sitting in game files.

 

Another wasted cars are euros and phoenix, they are obtainable luckily.

 

Another wasted cars are online cars for me because I never played online.

 

Yeah and emergency vehicles in GTA V are complete mess and wasted potential. 

[Lioshenka]

Probably none in III. III had a small selection of vehicles, all fitting nicely with the game setting.

 

Plenty of vehicles in SA:

- firstly, all the unused vehicles, like flower pot, SWAT van, Rancher with tinted windows, trailer attachments that can't be towed.

- secondly, vehicles that are only used very rarely - Euros, Tampa, Andromada

- thirdly, "normal" estate cars, can't even remember their names. But basically Ford Sierra kind of things, they all look very similar, just slightly different lengths. I would rather see these slots being used for something unique, like more tractors or offroad vehicles

[CynicalMexican]

As much as I understand the hate for some of the more "homogeneous" vehicles, it's nice that GTA SA largely reflects an early 90s traffic atmosphere. 

 

But why the f*ck do the Broadway and Hermes appear? These are old cars from 1947 that would have LONG been gone from traffic in 1992. They have NO reason to be in GTA SA and they are PAINFUL to drive. I rather would have had something from the 70s - 80s.

[Americana]

Most sport cars in Grand Theft Auto V, I don't even know their names. They look awful and there are too many of them.

 

Grand Theft Auto series needs normal cars, sedans and so on.

Edited August 11, 2021 by Americana

[CynicalMexican]

1 hour ago, Americana said:

Most sport cars in Grand Theft Auto V, I don't even know their names. They look awful and there are too many of them.

 

Grand Theft Auto series needs normal cars, sedans and so on.

This. GTA 5 felt so gimmicky. 

[universetwisters]

10 hours ago, CynicalMexican said:

But why the f*ck do the Broadway and Hermes appear? These are old cars from 1947 that would have LONG been gone from traffic in 1992. They have NO reason to be in GTA SA and they are PAINFUL to drive. I rather would have had something from the 70s - 80s.

 

idk I'm sure you could say the same about the Hermes and Oceanic/Glendale in VC. It'd be nice if they came as beaters though

[GTA-Biker]

Phoenix, Euros and SWAT tank in GTA SA.Phoenix and SWAT tank appear in one mission each,and I don't remember seeing Euros unless I used cheats or mods.

 

Tampa in GTA TLAD,from what I know it appears only in a cutscene.

 

Deluxo, Stromberg, Toreador, Ardent, JB700W and other armed cars in GTA 5.I don't get why couldn't they also make cheaper versions for those cars without gimmicks like weapons, flight or diving underwater,for those of us who just want cool looking classic cars.However,at least the JB700W doesn't have those unremovable fake guns on the hood like the regular JB700,so it looks nicer and cleaner.Also,all of the GTA 5 vehicles that don't spawn in traffic and can only be obtained by buying them from the website,I get the DLC vehicles in Online but there's no excuse for that in singleplayer.

Edited August 14, 2021 by GTA-Biker