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Carts following the trail while shooting


zPhoenix
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I remember being able to shoot at enemies while driving a cart and the horses following the trail by themselves.  I returned recently to RDO and every single time the horses slam into trees instead of following the trail.

 

Is the functionality broken, or was there a trick I forgot for to how to make them stay on the trail and moving while I shoot?

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Make sure you're on the trail before you turn around and start shooting and yes miraculously, the cart horses become 100% smarter once the shooting starts but put down your weapons and they'll run you right off of a cliff.

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FRIDA_KAHLO

And don't touch the left joystick, let it loose while you do your aiming, or you'll be caterwauling down the mountainside in no time if you try to steer while turning around (maybe more possible if direction is horse relative mode though).

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Maybe I should mention that I am playing on PC with mouse and keyboard.  All I press while shooting is W and it still drifts off the trail.  It happens even if I don't release the zoom in.  This did not use to be a problem.

 

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barcelona1968

Just did a wagon delivery and it worked as normal for me on Xbox.

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FRIDA_KAHLO

 

Hey I've been saying it wrong I think let me revise this. First of all I'm also on PC but just use an xbox paddle. 

 

I am not able to get the solo horse to follow the set course on the map at all outside of cinema view which precludes shooting. Tried with keyboard mouse and with my paddle and also with keyboard mouse while the paddle was unplugged just to be sure of no interference.

 

I read a couple of articles online that suggest you should hold the giddyup / spur button such as LSHIFT on your keyboard or A button  on my controller. It does not seem to follow the trail at all this way that I can see except when in a wagon and while aiming or in the item wheel that I can tell. Weird

 

So anyway on BOTH, I am not convinced it's working right. However in the wagon only I do get it working by aiming. For an easy test that I just ran through, I approach the red line trail of the course at an angle where if the horse follows it or crosses it can be seen quickly, and zig zag back and forth to avoid having to back up.

 

Approach the line, aim your weapon, and let go of all other buttons. In other words do not push W OR LSHIFT at this time and if your wagon behaves like mine, then it (horse pulling wagon), starts following the trail. I do not think this is supposed to be how it works but that is my observance.  And it wouldn't work on all on the solo horse.

 

 

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Thank you, I will try the no button at all approach on my next delivery.

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FRIDA_KAHLO

Hey yeah I hope it works for you, I've been using it reliably (but didn't realize it was malfunctioning). Here I put the joystick control panel in front so you can see exactly what I'm pushing and the working run is at like 2:35 in this video, where I just hold the aim. Now I'm so new I would be hesitant that I am not doing it wrong somehow, but, I hope some other PC user confirm on this.

 

The button 1 it shows is my giddyup button, "A" on the controller, also note the X/Y/Z output is well axis X is the left and right triggers (when it goes right I'm squeezing aim button, left trigger - ask MicroSoft why that makes sense though). And the Y and Z axis are the right joystick (directional aiming / looking around).

 

 

 

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On 7/22/2021 at 4:00 PM, zPhoenix said:

Maybe I should mention that I am playing on PC with mouse and keyboard.  All I press while shooting is W and it still drifts off the trail.  It happens even if I don't release the zoom in.  This did not use to be a problem.

 

I haven't done it in a while, but holding the rt mouse button to aim always kept the wagon on the yellow trail and at whatever speed I left it at.

 

It's very awkward while using a scope, but works well enough for other arms.

 

Shotgun often has weird dead zones though, maybe that's only on missions where you're actually 'riding shotgun' rather than driving.

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How does one aim without using the left joystick if they aren't using autoaim?

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Hold down the right click on the mouse,  worked for me just like on the joystick does then (except, no aim correction). It may be harder to manage in a shootout on keyboard, but at least it works for a test, hold down right click the horse abides the course just the same.

 

Here it is actually directly. I see the dudes, pull iron, spin around and aim, and just leave it aiming except for moments between shots, let it go for a moment to point at the next dude. Sometimes, when they are spread out or on all sides, you have to spin around to the other side during such a moment, but just be quick that the horse didn't get off the trail during the moment before resqueeze aim. Starring Frita Kellogg as ACTION JACKSON.

 

 

I think this is NOT supposed to be this way and this is just a chance workaround for it malfunctioning. Well let's ask the support. I have not much expectation but I will see what they say. Hmm

 - FRITA

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On 7/23/2021 at 12:14 PM, FRIDA_KAHLO said:

Hold down the right click on the mouse,  worked for me just like on the joystick does then (except, no aim correction). It may be harder to manage in a shootout on keyboard, but at least it works for a test, hold down right click the horse abides the course just the same.

 

Here it is actually directly. I see the dudes, pull iron, spin around and aim, and just leave it aiming except for moments between shots, let it go for a moment to point at the next dude. Sometimes, when they are spread out or on all sides, you have to spin around to the other side during such a moment, but just be quick that the horse didn't get off the trail during the moment before resqueeze aim. Starring Frita Kellogg as ACTION JACKSON.

 

 

I think this is NOT supposed to be this way and this is just a chance workaround for it malfunctioning. Well let's ask the support. I have not much expectation but I will see what they say. Hmm

 - FRITA

I don't use keyboard. Myu fingers are too clumsy and I can't remember all the keys I need to use for stuff.

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On 7/23/2021 at 10:19 AM, StyxTx said:

I don't use keyboard. Myu fingers are too clumsy and I can't remember all the keys I need to use for stuff.

 

Same here. Do you mean, you use a joystick but with manual aim? I think you stlil squeeze left trigger to aim correct or do you always shoot from the hip? Just hold down left trigger?

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On 7/23/2021 at 12:27 PM, FRIDA_KAHLO said:

 

Same here. Do you mean, you use a joystick but with manual aim? I think you stlil squeeze left trigger to aim correct or do you always shoot from the hip? Just hold down left trigger?

I use free aim. I hadn't thought about shooting from the hip. I always forget about that. 😕

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FRIDA_KAHLO

So, six days it took and support gets back and tells us what we already know. (I haven't stated this but I think we all know it, it's just not related to shooting). The support rep happily pointed out that it works in cinema mode. We know it works in cinema mode that's just not what we're talking about that doesn't help in a fight. (although sometimes I do that, go into the map, and drop out when red dots come around - but I still require my horse to keep running on the trail while I shoot!).

 

Is this documented anywhere how it is supposed to work? I guess I am having a hard time finding the right manual on it and that would probably help.

 

I find a lot of 3P references describing that the horse SHOULD follow the trail without all this malarkey by holding (some say X, some say A, forward, both). There is mixed references to just keeping abreast of the other horse and actually following the trail.

 - FRITA

 

P.S. Did find the manual and see no mention of this in it https://media-rockstargames-com.akamaized.net/rockstargames-newsite/img/manuals/en_us/RDR2-PC-MANUAL-EN.pdf

 

v1 manual https://media-rockstargames-com.akamaized.net/rockstargames-newsite/img/manuals/en_us/RDR_360_CLASSICS_MANUAL_ENG.pdf

 

It's weird I think at this point we may be deluding ourselves that it used to follow trails outside of cinema mode, but I just dunno.

 

 

 

 

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