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Take-Two changes the agreement, Modding Take Downs


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On 7/17/2021 at 8:46 PM, Rhoda said:

would a new game ease the pain that modders are no doubt feeling?

"a one step forward, 3 steps back"

 

and in this case they are taking a headstart on those backsteps

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will they block silent patch, widescreen fix and skygfx too? GTA III, VC and SA are unplayable without those mods!

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On 7/17/2021 at 1:56 PM, yaroslaviy said:

will they block silent patch, widescreen fix and skygfx too?

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On 7/17/2021 at 11:35 PM, Devdevi45 said:

After years of hard work on the mods .. The real question is why now ?

Maybe because they could be working on some new game/remaster?

Maybe CEO of take 2 decided today would be a fine day to fuque the fans of the series in th ars 

 

Why could they not be more like Valve etc and actually helping modders

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Of course T2 being the money whore scums they are, it's expected!

Who knows what other mods could be taken down?

You have DYOM, SAxVCxLC, SAMP, MTA.

 

These last two may get whiped too!

 

The worst part is that if they try to take down whole websites or 3dsmax modding tools not just mods! Like gtagarage, gtainside, kams script and many more! This is such a disaster for all of us mod fans!

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I'm confused... Didn't re3 and reVC just get put back up? And now they pull this crap? wtf is happening? Someone is clearly trying to flex their lawyer team.

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On 7/17/2021 at 12:44 PM, GhettoJesus said:

(...)It's not like people were selling these mods.

>mfw T2 and R* take down the free mods of older games and yet only managed to take down one PAID mod menu for GTA Online

 

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On 7/17/2021 at 11:16 AM, FutabaJakuzure said:

>mfw T2 and R* take down the free mods of older games and yet only managed to take down one PAID mod menu for GTA Online

Keeping online hacking mods is actually good for them, they ban the accounts which leads to the cheaters buying new accounts...profit, while keeping free unharmful mods that pull players away from GTAO? absolutely not.

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On 7/17/2021 at 7:46 PM, Rhoda said:

The question has to be asked, would a new game ease the pain that modders are no doubt feeling? I'm somehow doubtful, even if it would be lapped up by fans and critics. This recent move is a heartbreaking swipe to everybody involved in the scene, and it's a further stifling towards the creativity and expression of those who have spent the best part of two decades working on something they love for a franchise that up until fairly recently supported and encouraged these efforts. It's a great shame.

Modders wouldn't forget, but players who want action, I'm hoping they will keep our side.

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On 7/17/2021 at 2:05 PM, Devdevi45 said:

After years of hard work on the mods .. The real question is why now ?

Either E&E is a much bigger project than we realize (possible, but I personally don't think it will be), R*/TT see the removed mods as a conflict of interest with the rumored Trilogy remakes (if they are even real, which I personally doubt), or the success of GTAO has gotten to R*/TT's heads more than ever and they are trying whatever tactics they can to get more people to play it and/or buy shark cards. Despite being 8 years old as of this Fall, the game is still incredibly popular in terms of both copies sold and player retention, and has an upcoming second remaster (within less than a decade of the original release), so the third option would not at all surprise me.

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On 7/17/2021 at 11:50 PM, _MK_ said:

Keeping online hacking mods is actually good for them, they ban the accounts which leads to the cheaters buying new accounts...profit.

I think worse, they are the ones who made these mod menus

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Whatever the case, I just hope someone reaches out to Rockstar and they give an official statement on whatever the hell their stance is like they did back when they tried to take down OpenIV. Intentionally leaving it vague will just create more tension and more work for their lawyers.

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so they only take down like 2 mod menus (which i still think were exit scams) which are major concern for gta online and do absolutely no good for players. But these nice mods which caused no harm to anyone are taken down. I mean seriously this is so hypocritical. I don't even think that these are due to remasters at all because they aren't even announced or teased anywhere. Its just Take Two wanna show their power again, wanna feel the 2017 nostalgia huh? How about u take down mod menus that break so many agreements first.

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Well, it's time to dust off the old Anti-TakeTwo logo.

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On 7/18/2021 at 12:25 AM, CluckinGuy69 said:

Well, it's time to dust off the old Anti-TakeTwo logo.

lets call them Take-Down from now on

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On 7/17/2021 at 8:30 PM, zanesix said:

Whatever the case, I just hope someone reaches out to Rockstar and they give an official statement on whatever the hell their stance is like they did back when they tried to take down OpenIV. Intentionally leaving it vague will just create more tension and more work for their lawyers.

Depends on the initial backlash. If there's large enough outcry and media outlets get involved, then yes, R* not saying anything would cause some serious PR problems for them.

Then again, timing is anything but accidental here - Tuners DLC's gonna be released the upcoming tuesday. Take 2 clearly decided to execute their sickening plan during the weekend, knowing well that most media outlets will resume their work on monday, so just one day before GTA Online's on everyone's mouths for the remaining part of the week.

They want to wipe this scandal under the rug, and may very well succeed, considering most of the media is nothing but reactionary clickbaiters who want to be on good terms with corporations and contribute to the hype/FOMO culture. How often do you hear about Ubisoft's sexual harrassment, Naughty Dog's inhumane worker exploitation and hospitalizations, CDPR's worker right abuses or Activition's Bobby Kotick, whose existence alone is a proof we've failed as civilization? Take 2 waging a war against us wouldn't even make the top 5 of the worst industry scandals that SHOULD be covered and repeated like a broken record, but are not.

If they get it their way and this situation isn't picked up by people with actual reach and influence, R* won't have to say anything, because everyone will be too distracted with shiny new cars in GTA Online to care.

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You know what's funny? There are lots of FiveM servers with map conversions. (At least from what I can remember, I played in one at least (LC from GTA IV))
So are they just going after FiveM again, the servers, how does that dynamic work?

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Good grief this is shocking to see, this is so awful of those scumbags

Maaaaan now I'm worried that RELCS is gonna be taken down

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Absolutely crazy - as former contributor to one of the oldest mods hit, I cannot believe this. GTA: Vice City is 18 years old, "of legal age" - yet no mods are allowed?

 

Did T2 hire too many lawyers in 2021 by mistake and now they're bored out of their minds and need something / anything to do?

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On 7/17/2021 at 8:08 PM, RRT94 said:

Maaaaan now I'm worried that RELCS is gonna be taken down

it already was.

 

even the thread for it was nuked from the forum for some reason

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On 7/18/2021 at 1:12 AM, WildBrick142 said:

it already was.

 

even the thread for it was nuked from the forum for some reason

AAAAAAAAHRRGFHHHBGGHGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH f*ck YOU TAKE TWOOOOOOO

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On 7/18/2021 at 1:18 AM, H-G said:

 

Well, those are my reactions for the day...

same here brother

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I've always been a console player but I truly do feel for you all that invest time and effort into making these amazing mods. It is an art form that requires so much patience to get right. Without you GTA V and past GTA titles would not be nearly as popular as they have been and continue to be. Hopefully something changes for the better soon as this is plain bullsh*t.

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This is genuinely so depressing, some of the greatest mods just gone. Even if it's for potential remasters, that shouldn't mean they have to take down mods for older Grand Theft Auto games, what difference would it make if they stayed? Really sad about all this, I feel for the people who put years into the mods, just for it to come to this. What a pathetic company. 

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Im so done with this company, Zelnick is most scummy person from game industry.

 

They are constantly pushing GTA beyond negative line for me. They are doing things against players and they are not even hiding it.

 

RDR2 is last purchased game from me for full price after year of waiting.

 

They are diversive and inclusive in screwing players, thats all!

 

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On 7/17/2021 at 6:54 PM, DeltaV20 said:

hot-coffee mod drastically decreased San andreas sales but still it sold more than 25M copies  , SA got rated adult only , copies got removed from more than 80% retailers etc etc this pretty much proves R* & T2 hella hates modding community (probably north too or maybe not), i will say the sh*t is coming from R NYC and T2 since they make most of all decisions 

Hot coffee is not even mod, that was minigame from rockstar fully fleshed in mechanics.

 

Its like changing 0 to 1 value to be biggest modder ever. It is their own fail!

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