RDO Speculation & General Chat (Part II)

[IzzyBlues]

2019 was such a promising year. The buzz from playing the singleplayer was still there because the game was still fresh. RDO was in a bad state then but the updates were so promising. I never thought we'd be in this position 2 years later...

[R a f a e]

14 minutes ago, IzzyBlues said:

2019 was such a promising year. The buzz from playing the singleplayer was still there because the game was still fresh. RDO was in a bad state then but the updates were so promising. I never thought we'd be in this position 2 years later...

 

This game was at its peak coming hot off 2019 and into 2020, reminds me of when GTAO had that monstrous year in 2016 with all the new businesses and then the update gap from Dec 2016 to June 2017 was one of my fondest memories with that game, grinding out all the businesses with crew members.

 

There was just so much added in 2016 that it felt right for R* to relax for a few months in 2017 and let us take it all in. That's what 2020 felt like for RDO (since there was so much added in 2019) until we went further into the year and Dec 2020 happened... and then Blood Money happened... and now look where we are. 

 

Imagine if GTAO peaked and stopped with Import/Export (That actually was the plan until it proved too financially profitable and generally popular lol) and we just got lackluster updates ever since and eventually no updates... oh man.

[Shadowfennekin]

7 hours ago, Chrom said:

But what i never understood is why they made guarma inaccessible. You can still go out of map everywhere but as soon as you enter the detailed area of guarma you will be teleported back to Saint Denis. Does it hurt anyone rockstar? Do you lose money because of it? Just make a fast travel point there even if there is nothing to do you can still just chill there or just add 1-2 stranger mission, 1-2 treasure chests, legendary animals and done. They can probably do it in 2 days but why bother right? 

You were supposed to be able to go back originally

[Nonfatcactus327]

When I think about low-res Guarma and the teleports back to St. Denis, the simple endless voids, etc blocking us from entering even low res areas.  I’m reminded by the fact the whole island was there during RDO Beta.  Even the NPCs.  Except for the ones from the Story Mission.

 

I also remember how the basement at Sisika was there in RDO Beta if you could glitch to the island.  Then after Beta for a while if you went there you fell into an endless void.  But, then a different basement replaced it in a shown down mode.

 

People always lament cut Guarma content, but the truth is, people put that kind of work into something and then leave it on the cutting room floor only when it is sup bar, only when the game is better off without it.   RDO could be good alternative to the cutting room floor and still give some ROI on an investment.

 

We’ve seen a lot of ‘cut content’ found over the years, (trinkets, Martelli) appear online.

 

People are always pleading for Guarma: “is already there!  it was there before just add it back.”   I don’t think that is lost on Rockstar.  They also have assets to use, including voice lines (those aren’t cheap).  They have written stranger missions, treasure maps, they’ve selected campsites and fast travel in the game files.  Maybe RDO is on ice forever, or maybe just a little while.  Guarma is possible, I think they removed it because if we get Guarma, it’s going to be different.   I also wonder if splitting the RDO and RDR2 depots on Steam could be about having 2 game maps.

 

Map expansion wouldn’t require as much work as creating a new role or adding a business and all the missions to go with it.  But it would feel huge.  I really believe they’ll play that card at some point.   I think they’d all the stuff they’ve already made before putting the game on ice.

 

However the LeClerk story line ends, you can get those missions and cut scenes are written.  They don’t want to have to negotiate with the actors to come back unless they have to, like for a sequel.  You film a TV series at once and then air the season.  That’s how hiring actors works.   

 

The horse thief business is in pretty much in the game files, and you’re introduced to those guys who say they’ll be ready to set up business soon.  Almost every data miner has found that. (You meet Marcel in the background of that cutscene too).  

 

Before we see the end of RDO, we’ll see all the things they’ve already made. 

 

Edited February 13, 2022 by Nonfatcactus327
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[Shadowfennekin]

1 hour ago, Nonfatcactus327 said:

When I think about low-res Guarma and the teleports back to St. Denis, the simple endless voids, etc blocking us from entering even low res areas.  I’m reminded by the fact the whole island was there during RDO Beta.  Even the NPCs.  Except for the ones from the Story Mission.

 

I also remember how the basement at Sisika was there in RDO Beta if you could glitch to the island.  Then after Beta for a while if you went there you fell into an endless void.  But, then a different basement replaced it in a shown down mode.

 

People always lament cut Guarma content, but the truth is, people put that kind of work into something and then leave it on the cutting room floor only when it is sup bar, only when the game is better off without it.   RDO could be good alternative to the cutting room floor and still give some ROI on an investment.

 

We’ve seen a lot of ‘cut content’ found over the years, (trinkets, Martelli) appear online.

 

People are always pleading for Guarma: “is already there!  it was there before just add it back.”   I don’t think that is lost on Rockstar.  They also have assets to use, including voice lines (those aren’t cheap).  They have written stranger missions, treasure maps, they’ve selected campsites and fast travel in the game files.  Maybe RDO is on ice forever, or maybe just a little while.  Guarma is possible, I think they removed it because if we get Guarma, it’s going to be different.   I also wonder if splitting the RDO and RDR2 depots on Steam could be about having 2 game maps.

 

Map expansion wouldn’t require as much work as creating a new role or adding a business and all the missions to go with it.  But it would feel huge.  I really believe they’ll play that card at some point.   I think they’d all the stuff they’ve already made before putting the game on ice.

 

However the LeClerk story line ends, you can get those missions and cut scenes are written.  They don’t want to have to negotiate with the actors to come back unless they have to, like for a sequel.  You film a TV series at once and then air the season.  That’s how hiring actors works.   

 

The horse thief business is in pretty much in the game files, and you’re introduced to those guys who say they’ll be ready to set up business soon.  Almost every data miner has found that. (You meet Marcel in the background of that cutscene too).  

 

Before we see the end of RDO, we’ll see all the things they’ve already made. 

 

I sincerely hope they wrap up the story line but I'm convinced the game is dead

[Drimes]

This is it, there's not gonna be any groundbreaking DLCs anymore. With the ''announcement'' of GTA 6, the bug fixing on the GTA Trilogy Definitive Edition, and especially with the focus going into E&E as we speak, you can all forget about Red Dead Online being prioritized at all. GTA is the golden goose, unfortunately

Edited February 13, 2022 by Drimes

[*Lola]

The crystal ball says we'll get more dlc.

https://www.crystalballfree.com/crystal-ball

[R a f a e]

28 minutes ago, *Lola said:

The crystal ball says we'll get more dlc.

https://www.crystalballfree.com/crystal-ball

 

[Rm93]

I want adventures in Mexico! and score by Master Woody Jackson

 

[Shadowfennekin]

3 hours ago, *Lola said:

The crystal ball says we'll get more dlc.

https://www.crystalballfree.com/crystal-ball

[Direwrath]

5 hours ago, *Lola said:

The crystal ball says we'll get more dlc.

https://www.crystalballfree.com/crystal-ball

 

 

Indeed, but will it be worthwhile DLC, or just small additions to what's already in the game?

[Rev. Gnash]

5 hours ago, *Lola said:

The crystal ball says we'll get more dlc.

https://www.crystalballfree.com/crystal-ball

 

 

I hope so.

[IceHeartache]

Receiving an update would be fine i guess, but believing that after GTAV E&E RDO is going to be on priority again is a little to much don't you think? it wouldn't make any sense E&E is the new way R* and T2 could milk GTAV again until VI arrives, if they are going to focus in content it would be for the new GTAV because they can make current gent player entertained and they can test new ways to improve the experience  for GTA VI online while RDO can stay in a limbo, after all  they are s u r p r i s e d with the RDO numbers so for they the current state is okay and also give them easy money 

 

it is what it is, RDO time has pass, it doesn't mean that they abandoned the project but for sure with GTAVI and E&E GTAV in the process, taking care of RDO is not a top priority anymore and it never be at this point, the sooner we accept it the better we can deal whit it, i just wonder if this marks a change ,maybe now we are only going receive a new update per year instead of two, but well at this point better something than nothing i guess

 

But hey at  the end i'm totally okay to eat my words and see R* doing the opposite, this game deserves to shine, and i hope to be wrong and see one last chance for RDO in the future

[Nerfgoth]

4 hours ago, IceHeartache said:

Receiving an update would be fine i guess, but believing that after GTAV E&E RDO is going to be on priority again is a little to much don't you think? it wouldn't make any sense E&E is the new way R* and T2 could milk GTAV again until VI arrives, if they are going to focus in content it would be for the new GTAV because they can make current gent player entertained and they can test new ways to improve the experience  for GTA VI online while RDO can stay in a limbo, after all  they are s u r p r i s e d with the RDO numbers so for they the current state is okay and also give them easy money 

 

it is what it is, RDO time has pass, it doesn't mean that they abandoned the project but for sure with GTAVI and E&E GTAV in the process, taking care of RDO is not a top priority anymore and it never be at this point, the sooner we accept it the better we can deal whit it, i just wonder if this marks a change ,maybe now we are only going receive a new update per year instead of two, but well at this point better something than nothing i guess

 

But hey at  the end i'm totally okay to eat my words and see R* doing the opposite, this game deserves to shine, and i hope to be wrong and see one last chance for RDO in the future

 

I got the feeling that R* using/used RDO to test things out for GTAVI....

[Drimes]

4 hours ago, Nerfgoth said:

 

I got the feeling that R* using/used RDO to test things out for GTAVI....

The developers are incompetent, it's as simple as that

[YNNEL]

It’s a silly situation that could be resolved quickly by Rockstar.

[*Lola]

The wizard says we'll get some larger rdo updates on the PS5 version of rdo.

http://ifalcon.smaa.org/ask-the-magical-wizard.html

 

https://imgur.com/a/RF8VkVB

Edited February 14, 2022 by *Lola

[TheOriginalGunslinger]

 

[Shadowfennekin]

17 hours ago, IceHeartache said:

Receiving an update would be fine i guess, but believing that after GTAV E&E RDO is going to be on priority again is a little to much don't you think? it wouldn't make any sense E&E is the new way R* and T2 could milk GTAV again until VI arrives, if they are going to focus in content it would be for the new GTAV because they can make current gent player entertained and they can test new ways to improve the experience  for GTA VI online while RDO can stay in a limbo, after all  they are s u r p r i s e d with the RDO numbers so for they the current state is okay and also give them easy money 

 

it is what it is, RDO time has pass, it doesn't mean that they abandoned the project but for sure with GTAVI and E&E GTAV in the process, taking care of RDO is not a top priority anymore and it never be at this point, the sooner we accept it the better we can deal whit it, i just wonder if this marks a change ,maybe now we are only going receive a new update per year instead of two, but well at this point better something than nothing i guess

 

But hey at  the end i'm totally okay to eat my words and see R* doing the opposite, this game deserves to shine, and i hope to be wrong and see one last chance for RDO in the future

E&E definitely has more people working on getting it out, but I suspect Online is going back to the RDR2 lead up days where not many people are working on it. Which makes sense if Contracts really are the new 'Heists', they just reuse old assets and interiors for the most part

 

Some could be routed back to RDR2 too but I suspect VI is the priority 

[Direwrath]

13 hours ago, *Lola said:

The wizard says we'll get some larger rdo updates on the PS5 version of rdo.

http://ifalcon.smaa.org/ask-the-magical-wizard.html

 

https://imgur.com/a/RF8VkVB

Never trust a wizard!

 

 

[Caffeination]

Be honest, all of you. Would you rather the game never gets updated at all, or go to the same asinine length as GTAO?

 

Neither of those are a good thing, by the way, but no content is better than a Pegasus that poops carpet bombs and fires insta-kill rainbows from its horn.

Edited February 15, 2022 by Caffeination

[Drimes]

1 hour ago, Caffeination said:

Be honest, all of you. Would you rather the game never gets updated at all, or go to the same asinine length as GTAO?

 

Neither of those are a good thing, by the way, but no content is better than a Pegasus that poops carpet bombs and fires insta-kill rainbows from its horn.

Knowing how ''well'' the RDO developer team operates so far, I can guarantee you those silly things will come before heists and robberies come along. Have you seen the Naturalist outfits? Or the fake bandana beard? 

[Sephivader]

#SaveRedDeadOnline

#FixRedDeadRedemption2
In addition to dropping Red Dead Online, Rockstar is making Single Player Mode all buggy.

[Nerfgoth]

Silly question but any limited stuff?

[diperro]

4 hours ago, Sephivader said:

#SaveRedDeadOnline

#FixRedDeadRedemption2
In addition to dropping Red Dead Online, Rockstar is making Single Player Mode all buggy.

Man... I should be laughing this off, but honestly this sh*t is just sad. R* have probably the best open-world single player game EVER, yet they still find ways to f*ck it up with their incompetence. Now I feel the urge to look for info about every thing that has been broken with online updates, only to not screw up my single player campaign. I installed the game in my PC but haven't gone through it because of the fear of finding game-breaking or absurd bugs like this one. I haven't even updated the game to get DLSS, even tho my pc needs it for high preset settings...

[DarksunDaFirst]

10 hours ago, Caffeination said:

Be honest, all of you. Would you rather the game never gets updated at all, or go to the same asinine length as GTAO?

 

Neither of those are a good thing, by the way, but no content is better than a Pegasus that poops carpet bombs and fires insta-kill rainbows from its horn.

I would take a quarter of the content provided by GTAO at this point.  It seems we have small slivers of what essentially 3 updates: Executives and Criminals (VIPs and VIP Missions), Further Advances in Finance and Felony (CEO Businesses), and Biker Update (multiple businesses with multiple types of missions).  But we only get bits and pieces of those, tiny compared to GTAO.  There is just soooo much more functionality to every part of those updates compared to RDO updates (and im not even considering the vehicles).  

 

And while I'll agree with your second comment to a point...there is a WIIIIIIIIIIDE gap between no content and a Pegasus that poops carpet bombs...

Edited February 15, 2022 by DarksunDaFirst

[TheOriginalGunslinger]

9 hours ago, Sephivader said:

#SaveRedDeadOnline

#FixRedDeadRedemption2
In addition to dropping Red Dead Online, Rockstar is making Single Player Mode all buggy.

[Shadowfennekin]

14 hours ago, Caffeination said:

Be honest, all of you. Would you rather the game never gets updated at all, or go to the same asinine length as GTAO?

 

Neither of those are a good thing, by the way, but no content is better than a Pegasus that poops carpet bombs and fires insta-kill rainbows from its horn.

Honestly I just want them to wrap up the story, I'm convinced Horley was the true killer and was going to go traitor on us at the end. Be nice to know if theories like that were true

[roggek]

8 minutes ago, Shadowfennekin said:

Honestly I just want them to wrap up the story, I'm convinced Horley was the true killer and was going to go traitor on us at the end. Be nice to know if theories like that were true

 

And I will be able to sell "any decent horses you find, wel'l buy them" as Clay Davies promised us...But that was three years ago... 

[Shadowfennekin]

1 hour ago, roggek said:

 

And I will be able to sell "any decent horses you find, wel'l buy them" as Clay Davies promised us...But that was three years ago... 

First thing I did was steal a horse and try to sell it...

Major disappointment.