RDO Speculation & General Chat (Part II)

[Gettin up]

53 minutes ago, kcole4001 said:

I used to mod the vehicle handling files in GTA III, lots of crazy shenanigans to be had, but of course that was all perfectly harmless single player stuff back then.

I guess a lot of us modded GTA SA, it was very easy, and then GTA IV maybe.

Back from the modding to the actual topic. I hope they announce something inreresting about RDO, so I can re-install RDR2.

[SadieAdler]

I don't imagine RDO will receive another update until the Summer, thankfully I'll have Horizon Forbidden West to play in the coming weeks. I was hoping they'd give us our December 2021 DLC this month instead but it doesn't appear to be the case haha 

[Direwrath]

1 hour ago, kcole4001 said:

I used to mod the vehicle handling files in GTA III, lots of crazy shenanigans to be had, but of course that was all perfectly harmless single player stuff back then.

Cheating was the only way I would play GTA.

Chaos mode in San Andreas was my thing, although I could never get good at using the flying car cheats in any of the games. My daughter, on the other hand, used to use that cheat to do the taxi missions and stuff.

 

I'm all about cheating and modding a game when it's just single player or solo, I could tell so many stories about my antics with a modded Fallout 4 or Skyrim . But it's when players use the mods or the cheats to try and trick other players into getting into trouble, or because they feel like they don't have meat in the game and use them to out due other players by griefing them, that's when I start to dislike any sort of cheats.

If my computer wasn't so filled with my art stuff I would love to get RDR2 because I have seen that they have companion mods and the like, I want to play with those so bad.  Heck I saw one player that was able to get a mod and control the horses and they had an entire herd of them just running across the plains, man it was so pretty.

You know, if they made RDO offline, gave us the ability to play with mods like that on console, I could easily forgive them for their mistakes with online and I wouldn't say a word about it again.

 

57 minutes ago, Gettin up said:

Back from the modding to the actual topic. I hope they announce something inreresting about RDO, so I can re-install RDR2.

At this point I wouldn't be holding my breath, they aren't even trying to make an effort to answer for our concerns with that whole #savereddeadonline thing. I understand that on some sites people were getting out of hand with their complaints to the company, and I am not about trying to degrade anyone for anything, let alone a video game. But there are those of us who really do care about this game and feel that their silence is far more telling than their lack of updates.

 

 

 

[AdamNortonUK]

7 hours ago, Tez2 said:

The game does have the basic features of an anti-cheat to detect mod menu users without having to report them. It was only early last year when the most popular mod menu of Red Dead Online became detected. The owner was going wild issuing several updates to circumvent the new checks, but with no luck. Not sure what happened afterwards, but a few months after, Take-Two shut it down.

 

Rockstar did signature checking against this mod menu, which caused the users to get banned real quick. R* is constantly doing the same on GTA Online.

 

Cheat Engine is detectable, but depends on usage. Yes, even within a solo lobby. In fact, I would say most of R* prioritization goes to detecting money/gold methods. Most of what the cheaters abuse are legit elements of the game. Like a Trader Sale ...etc. Nowadays, however, cheaters may slip under the radar doing some dumb stuff due to less focus on RDO.

I was half asleep when I posted and also I wasn't good at explaining it either now that I've read it back now..

[Sephivader]

17 hours ago, Tez2 said:

The game does have the basic features of an anti-cheat to detect mod menu users without having to report them. It was only early last year when the most popular mod menu of Red Dead Online became detected. The owner was going wild issuing several updates to circumvent the new checks, but with no luck. Not sure what happened afterwards, but a few months after, Take-Two shut it down.

 

Rockstar did signature checking against this mod menu, which caused the users to get banned real quick. R* is constantly doing the same on GTA Online.

 

Cheat Engine is detectable, but depends on usage. Yes, even within a solo lobby. In fact, I would say most of R* prioritization goes to detecting money/gold methods. Most of what the cheaters abuse are legit elements of the game. Like a Trader Sale ...etc. Nowadays, however, cheaters may slip under the radar doing some dumb stuff due to less focus on RDO.

 

The biggest problem is the DDOS Attacks that many players have been suffering and Rockstar pretends it doesn't exist, and also the connection problems that still exist even after 3 years of playing.

 

It would be much better Dedicated Servers that would greatly avoid these various connection problems that thousands of players have, and these DDOS attacks that would be easier to detect, prevent, and banish those players who use DDOS Attacks.

[arisfelbonilla]

7 hours ago, Sephivader said:

 

El mayor problema son los ataques DDOS que muchos jugadores han estado sufriendo y Rockstar pretende que no existen, y también los problemas de conexión que aún existen incluso después de 3 años de jugar.

 

Sería mucho mejor Servidores Dedicados que evitarían en gran medida estos diversos problemas de conexión que tienen miles de jugadores, y estos ataques DDOS que serían más fáciles de detectar, prevenir y desterrar a aquellos jugadores que usan Ataques DDOS.

Were those dedicated servers within reach of Rockstar games? if they wanted?

[infectedG636]

I like to listen to the soundtrack in the background while playing red dead online.  Y'all should try it.

 

https://open.spotify.com/track/7cqWFAUdvAs0cBu3dIXu58?si=17d0fc3ce08c43a9

 

[R a f a e]

Dead game

[Rev. Gnash]

[Sephivader]

On 1/28/2022 at 5:25 PM, arisfelbonilla said:

Were those dedicated servers within reach of Rockstar games? if they wanted?

 

Maybe they even thought about it, but Rockstar in recent years wants to do little to earn a lot, a proof of this is the GTA Trilogy "Definitive Edition" that was released full of bugs and very ugly.

[Spider-Vice]

Comparing the Trilogy to any other part of R* is unfair IMO. R* corp (and not dev) made mistakes in selecting Grove Street Games to do those remasters again (as the community already had a bad perception of them after the SA mobile port), but it's not representative of the quality of what their actual studios do.

[Caffeination]

Yeah, Rockstar is the type of corp to prioritize things that will grab people’s attentions and article headlines, like shrinking horse balls, over changing their fundamentals when it comes to game design.

 

For example, GTA V and RDR2 both have:

 

* a painfully annoying law enforcement system

* downgrade patches for the sake of their online counterpart’s stability

* both their online versions use P2P and have notorious cheater problems, for PC players at least

* though admittedly worse in GTAO, the reliance on counterintuitive player menus make some things as simple as using healing items a source of stress and annoyance

… Amongst a few other similarities I can’t bother typing. Anyway, Rockstar can put out good games which look and feel nice to play, and no other company can do what Rockstar can, but their persistent habit of putting in the same annoying issues in two consecutive games makes it clear they stopped being the type of company that learns as it grows like they did in the past. 

Edited January 31, 2022 by Caffeination

[VladTheToaster]

On 1/28/2022 at 4:21 PM, infectedG636 said:

I like to listen to the soundtrack in the background while playing red dead online.  Y'all should try it.

 

https://open.spotify.com/track/7cqWFAUdvAs0cBu3dIXu58?si=17d0fc3ce08c43a9

 

I've tried this and also playing with soundtracks from different western movies.

On 1/28/2022 at 8:31 AM, Sephivader said:

 

The biggest problem is the DDOS Attacks that many players have been suffering and Rockstar pretends it doesn't exist, and also the connection problems that still exist even after 3 years of playing.

 

It would be much better Dedicated Servers that would greatly avoid these various connection problems that thousands of players have, and these DDOS attacks that would be easier to detect, prevent, and banish those players who use DDOS Attacks.

Never understood why they're using p2p. I know it's a cost thing, but overall it's harmful to their brand.

On 1/28/2022 at 8:31 AM, Sephivader said:

 

The biggest problem is the DDOS Attacks that many players have been suffering and Rockstar pretends it doesn't exist, and also the connection problems that still exist even after 3 years of playing.

 

It would be much better Dedicated Servers that would greatly avoid these various connection problems that thousands of players have, and these DDOS attacks that would be easier to detect, prevent, and banish those players who use DDOS Attacks.

Never understood why they're using p2p. I know it's a cost thing, but overall it's harmful to their brand.

[Yoona]

In 22 days from now it's gonna be the longest period of no DLC for RDO.

 

Previous one was Bounty Hunter Expansion (1 December 2020) to Blood Money (13 July 2021) which was 224 days.

[Nerfgoth]

13 minutes ago, Yoona said:

In 22 days from now it's gonna be the longest period of no DLC for RDO.

 

Previous one was Bounty Hunter Expansion (1 December 2020) to Blood Money (13 July 2021) which was 224 days.

 

Wow!

[Yoona]

14 minutes ago, Nerfgoth said:

 

Wow!

 

Sorry, I was wrong. From Moonshiners to Naturalist it was 228 days, so 4 days longer.

 

So in 26 days we will have the longest period of no DLC for RDO.

[Lemoyne outlaw]

26 minutes ago, Yoona said:

In 22 days from now it's gonna be the longest period of no DLC for RDO.

 

Previous one was Bounty Hunter Expansion (1 December 2020) to Blood Money (13 July 2021) which was 224 days.

that's very sad. i hope that by then they could at least give us some info on a new dlc. either that or just officially announce the games death. i never thought i would say it but i actually miss the naturalist dlc. it had its negatives harriet being the worst part. but i would love to have another naturalist sized dlc again. it would be better than nothing at least. but it seems like rockstar is too lazy and cheap to do that. very pathetic.

[arisfelbonilla]

19 minutes ago, Lemoyne outlaw said:

eso es muy triste Espero que para entonces al menos puedan darnos alguna información sobre un nuevo DLC. o eso o simplemente anunciar oficialmente la muerte de los juegos. Nunca pensé que lo diría, pero en realidad extraño el dlc naturalista. tenía sus aspectos negativos siendo Harriet la peor parte. pero me encantaría volver a tener otro dlc de tamaño naturalista. sería mejor que nada al menos. pero parece que rockstar es demasiado perezoso y tacaño para hacer eso. muy patético

there is a simple problem that people have

who does not know how to wait since they always announce contents of both gta online and red dead games almost close to summer like May or so and it is released on those dates

they think they will release something in spring
you are very bad XD

Rockstar was always like this
and surely they are doing something in red dead online

Edited January 31, 2022 by arisfelbonilla

[R a f a e]

Can't wait for Tuesday

[SadieAdler]

56 minutes ago, Yoona said:

So in 26 days we will have the longest period of no DLC for RDO.

 

[No Homing]

So 1 of 2 things will happen tomorrow....

Either C* responds to the SaveRDO movement or the internet will explode.

[Spider-Vice]

They most likely will never respond directly to the hashtag, especially with how deranged it all became in the end, but a status update on RDO is possible within the next week or so, before the 7th Feb. I think even saying "we have put RDO on hold for the tie being, as we have our developers focusing on getting higher priority upcoming big projects over the fence" or something of the sort would calm some minds down, but:

1. This would confirm a new R* project almost directly (I guess that's no surprise though).
2. Most wouldn't be satisfied anyway.

The problem I see with this "save RDO" movement is though, even if R* surprise-dropped a larger update with some QoL changes, I would bet money that a lot of people would still complain, still clamour that RDO needs to be "saved", despite the fact that they would have gotten an update - just because it's not exactly what they want. I think there'll never be a situation where everyone is satisfied.

 

I suppose if RDO is on hold due to R* focusing their efforts on bigger higher-priority projects, it would be a great opportunity to tease something like T2 have done mere months before RDR2 was announced...

http://www.dualshockers.com/rockstar-games-revealing-exciting-projects-soon-take-two-releases-financial-results

[YNNEL]

I think they might give us a few free items and be a bit more generous then they usually are and that will be their way of acknowledging the hash tag. People just want to know their intentions with the game. If they aren’t planning on supporting it further just tell us so we can all move on. That’s what Ubisoft did with WDL. I actually respect that. People just want transparency. This whole silent act isn’t doing them or us any favours. Is that really too much to ask from them? This whole situation is just silly and unnecessary and completely avoidable.

 

As long as they don’t publicly say they are stopping supporting it, people will think there is going to be more updates and some of those people will continue to buy gold bars. It’s about money. It’s ALWAYS about money.
 

 

Edited January 31, 2022 by YNNEL

[awanderers1877]

Any of you level 300+ up for another 50% coupon on a repeater 

[CosmicBuffalo]

There is simply no way R* will cave to this mob mentality at this point.  It will not be addressed directly. If they do cave and address it directly, the twitter mob to reveal gta 6 will be twice as large.  They made their bed with the secrecy and until 6 or whatever is next is revealed they will be in this PR limbo.  RDO is not going to be the game where they become more transparent. People should just refuse to buy their games and quit playing promoting their online games.  This hurts them way more than any twitter mob.

[Yoona]

3 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

They most likely will never respond directly to the hashtag, especially with how deranged it all became in the end, but a status update on RDO is possible within the next week or so, before the 7th Feb. I think even saying "we have put RDO on hold for the tie being, as we have our developers focusing on getting higher priority upcoming big projects over the fence" or something of the sort would calm some minds down, but:

1. This would confirm a new R* project almost directly (I guess that's no surprise though).
2. Most wouldn't be satisfied anyway.

The problem I see with this "save RDO" movement is though, even if R* surprise-dropped a larger update with some QoL changes, I would bet money that a lot of people would still complain, still clamour that RDO needs to be "saved", despite the fact that they would have gotten an update - just because it's not exactly what they want. I think there'll never be a situation where everyone is satisfied.

 

I suppose if RDO is on hold due to R* focusing their efforts on bigger higher-priority projects, it would be a great opportunity to tease something like T2 have done mere months before RDR2 was announced...

http://www.dualshockers.com/rockstar-games-revealing-exciting-projects-soon-take-two-releases-financial-results

 

That's some real weird logic there considering RDO players have been telling Rockstar for years that they want heists, there's plenty of banks around the map and we could have some underground planning room in Saint Denis basement or something.

 

People have been telling Rockstar for years we want more activities where we can be the actual outlaws, how will not vast majority of players be satisfied with that? This game's failure is all Rockstar's own fault.

Edited January 31, 2022 by Yoona

[bevlian89]

58 minutes ago, CosmicBuffalo said:

There is simply no way R* will cave to this mob mentality at this point.  It will not be addressed directly. If they do cave and address it directly, the twitter mob to reveal gta 6 will be twice as large.  They made their bed with the secrecy and until 6 or whatever is next is revealed they will be in this PR limbo.  RDO is not going to be the game where they become more transparent. People should just refuse to buy their games and quit playing promoting their online games.  This hurts them way more than any twitter mob.

That’s the saddest part about this whole thing! Twitter, the most derogative place on the internet gets used to promote something heartfelt (albeit somewhat mob based) towards a popular game, but unless it’s political it won’t ever gain serious traction, because money is the true law to big game developers, not their die-hard fans with hours well beyond what they envisioned. A sad truth.

 

I wish it would change dev’s minds more often, case in point Activision and their recent comments about the quality of their games. Regular communication is all that is needed. That’s not so difficult, and as a business how you can get away with not communicating is wild especially now in this tech dependant era. Then you have the Twitter account for Rockstar replying with emojis like some bot algorithm is running the show it’s just, wow. No words.

 

If it was the nineties and they were still fresh faced off the back of GTA1 or GTA2 I bet they’d be well into funnelling development for RDO. The earnings for RDR2 speak for themselves so it would only be natural to continue nourishing their second best IP. As it is they can skirt the line of non-communicative non-productive attitudes, brazenly pull in MTX from both titles, and all the while pedal marketing spiel to gaming news sites to appear busy. It’s all become a facade. That 5 year gap between V and RDR2 compared to their previous powerhouse of releases is bad. It’s just bad. Where’s the risk taking creativity gone? To indie studios?

[Buddy Hightower]

So, some moders can slap together a server with awesome new systems but rockstar can't be bothered???

OMG!

 

 

So, I assume this is part of 5M, I guess?

I play on xbox but my wife bought me a copy for PC when it was on sale but I've only played a little on PC.

I will fire that right back up and connect to 3rd party servers all day.

I can't believe a public server has more content than Rockstar's own game...

Edited January 31, 2022 by Buddy Hightower

[Direwrath]

7 hours ago, Buddy Hightower said:

So, some moders can slap together a server with awesome new systems but rockstar can't be bothered???

OMG!

If this was on the Xbox I would be playing everyday.

 

11 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

The problem I see with this "save RDO" movement is though, even if R* surprise-dropped a larger update with some QoL changes, I would bet money that a lot of people would still complain, still clamour that RDO needs to be "saved", despite the fact that they would have gotten an update - just because it's not exactly what they want. I think there'll never be a situation where everyone is satisfied.

That's true, but it is kind of their fault.

R* has a whole lot of catching up to do after they let the world grow stale and stagnant for so long, this is supposed to be an online "growing" world and it hasn't moved an inch for months. 

 

They could have easily remedied this by creating small updates, communicating with the player base regularly, and by giving us new cosmetics more than once a year.  Doing something, anything to show us that they still have the will to put an effort into this game. Instead we get silence from the company along with hurried newsletters bearing the same boring "gifts" that we've all seen hundreds of times already because all they do is circulate them.

I don't think many of us are under the impression that they are going to make RDO what we want it to be 100%, mainly because from what we've seen, they aren't even trying to make it anything anymore. They've all but given up, unfortunately the players are still clinging on because we weren't given the same memo.

 

 

 

[fryday]

14 hours ago, Buddy Hightower said:

So, some moders can slap together a server with awesome new systems but rockstar can't be bothered???

OMG!

 

 

So, I assume this is part of 5M, I guess?

I play on xbox but my wife bought me a copy for PC when it was on sale but I've only played a little on PC.

I will fire that right back up and connect to 3rd party servers all day.

I can't believe a public server has more content than Rockstar's own game...

I think its RedM .

 

Here in Germany RDO RP Server are trending atm. These Servers are what Rockstar should have created....