The Red Dead Online B*tch & Moan Thread

[Shimmer]

gta online seems to be down too for me and my friends. Might be the snow coming back in both games.

[CMCSAVAGE]

3 minutes ago, Shimmer said:

gta online seems to be down too for me and my friends. Might be the snow coming back in both games.

I'm on GTAO right now, have been for like 2 hours.

 

[Shimmer]

5 minutes ago, CMCSAVAGE said:

I'm on GTAO right now, have been for like 2 hours.

 

gta is down for me and everyone else i know and on reddit people are reporting it down too.

https://gyazo.com/83351e3d22d92749417e2fad78570095

Edited December 31, 2019 by Shimmer

[Between3and22char]

On R* support says " Limited ", both RDO and GTAO

[Leftover Pizza]

1 minute ago, Between3and22char said:

On R* support says " Limited ", both RDO and GTAO

 

I think that's related to animal spawns on RDO servers.

 

It goes from:

animals left, right and center

to:

animals left.

 

   

[CMCSAVAGE]

Just now, Shimmer said:

gta is down for me and everyone else i know and on reddit people are reporting it down too.

I quit right after I posted, no idea if I could get back on though.

[eighthdoctor]

Thanks folks. What a shame as I may be about to lose yet another long dailies streak (100+ days). 

[kcole4001]

Stupid broken f*cking stupid f*cking server system of stupid potato balloon knot advanced f*ckery!!!!!!!!!!! 

 

Everything is listed as "limited" on R* support site except for Stadia, which is green: "OK".

 

Been a bumf*ckled potato festival for over an hour now, can't connect at all.

If this costs me my daily streak I'ma gonna be pissed  

[Shimmer]

It's back up on PC now

[Menstrual Deranged]

Just spent $1000 on express explosive ammo, read the pamphlet, saw the message in the corner saying I'd "learned" the recipe. Went to my camp to make it. Recipe nowhere to be found, even though the explosive slug recipe I bought at the same time was there.

 

Figured I'd restart the game and it would show up. Go to log back on. Servers down.

[Next-Gen Vercettis]

3 hours ago, Leftover Pizza said:

It's absolutely impossible to spend a game day in any of the 5 states and shoot nice and clear photos. Some towns seem covered in either fog or sandstorms permanently. Or when the sky clears up, it's night time again. Thanks for the realism by adding fog. Now tone it down a few notches. 

IIRC, at least one legendary bounty is (was?) time locked so no night/day cycle. 

I'm not sure if the weather remains dynamic though. 

54 minutes ago, eighthdoctor said:

Getting message [Error: 0x5000000a] about 5 times from just trying to log into Online tonight. Cannot get past the loading screen at all; anyone else get this today?

Yes, but was able to log in on the next try. 

 

Something I noticed.. I log in to my friend's profile every day to keep their daily streak going. I get disconnection issues with the error message quite often but when I play on my profile it is extremely rare (once every few weeks), even though I'm playing on the same console through the same router etc. 

Edited December 31, 2019 by Next-Gen Vercettis

[Next-Gen Vercettis]

34 minutes ago, Leftover Pizza said:

 

 

It goes from:

animals left, right and center

to:

animals left.

 

   

There are still animals left?! 

 

Where?? 

 

[Leftover Pizza]

2 minutes ago, Next-Gen Vercettis said:

There are still animals left?! 

 

Where?? 

 

nope, they left

[Next-Gen Vercettis]

27 minutes ago, kcole4001 said:

 

Been a bumf*ckled potato festival   

Liked your post just bc this part cracked me up. 

Hope it gets fixed and you don't lose your streak. 

26 minutes ago, Menstrual Deranged said:

Just spent $1000 on express explosive ammo, read the pamphlet, saw the message in the corner saying I'd "learned" the recipe. Went to my camp to make it. Recipe nowhere to be found, even though the explosive slug recipe I bought at the same time was there.

 

Figured I'd restart the game and it would show up. Go to log back on. Servers down.

If the ammo is full and/or (I think) you don't have the materials to craft it, you have to press something to go to another menu as the first list only shows items you have space/materials for. 

 

Sorry if you knew this already. 

[Tha-Jamz]

On 12/29/2019 at 8:05 PM, Jason said:

Companies say a lot of things, what they do is what matters. Even then, they absolutely did learn stuff from GTAO, which is why GTAO content shifted towards free roam content like businesses over things like contact missions. RDO started with this philosophy from day 1 with things like stranger missions being set in the free roam and just in general a smaller emphasis on instanced content and of course they've doubled down on this design approach more recently with the roles.

 

There you go again with the word engine, I don't think you understand what a game engine is or what it does. Regardless, they are open world games with shooting from the same developer, no one is trying to argue that there aren't plenty of similarities but to suggest they are exactly the same is a bit silly.

 

As someone with hundreds of hours in the game, plenty of it works like a charm and has done for a long time. There still issues, some serious like animal spawns, which should be fixed by now regardless but lets not get hyperbolic and move this discussion to the easy "wah wah they only care about microtransactions" because it's the video game equivalent of ad hominem these days.

 

Nonsense would be someone making claims with factually incorrect information or just vagueness as they don't have any actual proof of their claims, or just show a general lack of understanding about what they are talking about. I've done none of those things.

 

winkyface

I did not say exactly the same, dont put words in my mouth.

A game engine is what it is and every game engine has its limits, if they learned so much from gtao it wouldnt be the sh*tshow it was in the early beta, imo they tryed to maximize profit the way they handle it by implementing the store as the very first thing, everything is build around that.

 

Animal spawns broke... or intended ? now people are pushed towards gold bars cause we cant make money with hunting ingame.

Because you got hundreds of hours in the game doesnt make you the authority on everything, take two is known for monetizing games, trying to wave that away with your ad hominem argument is cheap talk.

 

If plenty works like a charm then why is the bitch and moan topic so big ? with a lot of problems that still exist from day 1 ? disconnects, infinite loading screens, black screens, even blue screens...,

But if on your end everything works fine and peachy then all players that complain here must be talkin out of their asses right ?

All i see you do here is downplaying every single complaint.

 

I agree that there are improvements but on the other hand still way to many game breaking bugs after a year, "There still issues, some serious like animal spawns" you say ?! really ? its one of the most important features ingame to make money, to cook food, for the trader role, to buy unlocked stuff from the roles etc.

 

They had to double down on content ingame cause it was way to little in the first place.

Dont get me wrong i love this game and i would like to invest in it, even with gold bars but not when important features dont even work properly.

 

And of course its all about making money and thats okay, when it works..., or do you think people rather send support tickets and bitch and moan over here instead of playing the game ?!

 

 

 

 

 

[Stoakzee]

*Defensive mode*

 

"Missions without player conflict are prioritized."

 

Stranger 1: Horse theft

Stranger 2: Bushwhack

Stranger 3: Player assassination

 

[Nerfgoth]

6 hours ago, Tha-Jamz said:

I did not say exactly the same, dont put words in my mouth.

A game engine is what it is and every game engine has its limits, if they learned so much from gtao it wouldnt be the sh*tshow it was in the early beta, imo they tryed to maximize profit the way they handle it by implementing the store as the very first thing, everything is build around that.

 

Animal spawns broke... or intended ? now people are pushed towards gold bars cause we cant make money with hunting ingame.

Because you got hundreds of hours in the game doesnt make you the authority on everything, take two is known for monetizing games, trying to wave that away with your ad hominem argument is cheap talk.

 

If plenty works like a charm then why is the bitch and moan topic so big ? with a lot of problems that still exist from day 1 ? disconnects, infinite loading screens, black screens, even blue screens...,

But if on your end everything works fine and peachy then all players that complain here must be talkin out of their asses right ?

All i see you do here is downplaying every single complaint.

 

I agree that there are improvements but on the other hand still way to many game breaking bugs after a year, "There still issues, some serious like animal spawns" you say ?! really ? its one of the most important features ingame to make money, to cook food, for the trader role, to buy unlocked stuff from the roles etc.

 

They had to double down on content ingame cause it was way to little in the first place.

Dont get me wrong i love this game and i would like to invest in it, even with gold bars but not when important features dont even work properly.

 

And of course its all about making money and thats okay, when it works..., or do you think people rather send support tickets and bitch and moan over here instead of playing the game ?!

 

 

 

 

I I´m in the same boat as you! Would happily buy gold bars IF it ended up in better game performance! Like a patch at least once a month, servers and network that can handle the basic stuff (animal spawning).

When in a solo lobby I could just sit on my horse in the Heartlands enjoy the wildlife. Best part I have seen so far was a fox hinting a rabbit!

Edited December 31, 2019 by Nerfgoth
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[kcole4001]

Proper servers would be a HUGE step in the right direction, but that would be admitting they made a mistake in the first place.

Also there may be technical/financial implications which they aren't willing to accept.

10 hours ago, Next-Gen Vercettis said:

Liked your post just bc this part cracked me up. 

Hope it gets fixed and you don't lose your streak. 

……….

I did finally get on and got time to do 4 dailies, thanks!

I could have done more with more time, of course.

I downloaded Three Kingdoms while I was waiting, so maybe after all these years I'll uninstall Rome II finally 'cause I'm running out of HDD space.

[Nerfgoth]

Just now, kcole4001 said:

Proper servers would be a HUGE step in the right direction, but that would be admitting they made a mistake in the first place.

Also there may be technical/financial implications which they aren't willing to accept.

That would be cool of them just to publish a video where they apologise and how they are going to fix main issues!

[kcole4001]

1 minute ago, Nerfgoth said:

That would be cool of them just to publish a video where they apologise and how they are going to fix main issues!

They'd NEVER hear the end of that, so yeah, not gonna happen. 

[Tha-Jamz]

I really hate the snow ! its killing immersion, when does it go away ?

1 hour ago, kcole4001 said:

Proper servers would be a HUGE step in the right direction, but that would be admitting they made a mistake in the first place.

Also there may be technical/financial implications which they aren't willing to accept.

I did finally get on and got time to do 4 dailies, thanks!

I could have done more with more time, of course.

I downloaded Three Kingdoms while I was waiting, so maybe after all these years I'll uninstall Rome II finally 'cause I'm running out of HDD space.

The only financial implication is greed.

[kcole4001]

Anything that reduces profits is likely off the table, I'm sure.

It's not that they can't afford it.

[Leftover Pizza]

Loading into the game with option "camp".......... 80% loading for 10 minutes already.....

[ALifeOfMisery]

2 hours ago, kcole4001 said:

Also there may be technical/financial implications which they aren't willing to accept.

I'd absolutely love it if R* pulled the old "dedicated servers are expensive" excuse after making around $8bn off 2 releases in 6 years.

 

RDO should be on dedicated servers and whatever online GTA VI brings should definitely be on dedicated servers, VI would take $1bn opening weekend if R* stealth dropped it.

[Talisman_83]

1. Solo lobby. Tons of animals. Great.

The only problem is, I'm now firmly in the place where I don't actually expect any animals to exist in this game, so its just weird.

 

2. Still in solo lobby. Start a moonshine sale, with a take of $227 or thereabouts.

About 6 waves of enemies come at me. Seriously R*?

And I manage to lose 2 bottles over NOTHING. Didn't hit any rocks or anything and I shot the enemies before they got to me.

That $227 is now somehow $100.

WTF? How can 2 bottles out of 20 be worth $127?

Honestly, f*ck Moonshiner.

 

 

Edited December 31, 2019 by Talisman_83

[Jason]

8 hours ago, Tha-Jamz said:

A game engine is what it is and every game engine has its limits, if they learned so much from gtao it wouldnt be the sh*tshow it was in the early beta, imo they tryed to maximize profit the way they handle it by implementing the store as the very first thing, everything is build around that.

You're not wrong that they didn't apply everything they should have learned from in GTAO. PC is a prime example of this with things like how easy it is to hack still. I'm not trying to to deflect criticism away from them I'm trying to direct it into the right places. Blaming things like engine is off the mark because engines can be upgraded and modified to suit their need. The game would be no different on another game engine, it'd quite possibly be worse because RAGE is tailor made for what they need to build their games.

 

8 hours ago, Tha-Jamz said:

Animal spawns broke... or intended ? now people are pushed towards gold bars cause we cant make money with hunting ingame.

Because you got hundreds of hours in the game doesnt make you the authority on everything, take two is known for monetizing games, trying to wave that away with your ad hominem argument is cheap talk.

You can't make gold through hunting outside of deliveries which happen once every 1-3 hours, oh an also awards ofc but they cap out after a whille. If me avoiding the easy "it's all about monetisation" talk is cheap then your trying to push this towards monetisation based on things like animal spawns is I don't even know what. The best gold makers in the game are awards, PvP, maps and daily challenges. Since launch they have only improved gold payouts on these things (except for maps, I guess), daily challenges are generally regards by most players that I've seen as the best way to make gold and the reason why veteran players sit, like my self, on hundred of gold bars. Basically, gold is easier to make than ever and at this moment in time and and since one of the patches mid last year, has not had any issues outside of the challenge streaks resetting when the Frontier Pursuits update launched.

 

9 hours ago, Tha-Jamz said:

If plenty works like a charm then why is the bitch and moan topic so big ? with a lot of problems that still exist from day 1 ? disconnects, infinite loading screens, black screens, even blue screens...,

But if on your end everything works fine and peachy then all players that complain here must be talkin out of their asses right ?

All i see you do here is downplaying every single complaint.

B&M topics are always massive for any game even ones that actually do work like a charm. People like to moan and it is always a vocal minority. GTAforums, the RDO subreddit and the Twitter replies every time Rockstar tweets something are not the majority of the playerbase. As per with virtually every other game out there most people are just playing the game and if they have issues they deal with them in-game or avoid them. This isn't speculation either, this is actual fact.

 

As for downplaying every complaint, no. If you've seen my posts on here since RDR2's launch you would know that I have been highly critical of Rockstar for many different reasons and for many of the decisions in RDO, things like communication, no dedicated server support, their patch frequency, their stance on PvPvE, controls, free aim, balancing, the list goes on. However, I prefer to put my criticism on things that are a bit more tangible than wild speculation and cheap like say, saying animals don't work because it means people will buy more gold bars. This is a problem in the gaming community in general these days, despite players having countless legitimate reasons to criticise developers for people have the tendency to make up reasons or just throw tinfoil hat stuff at them because everyone else is doing it.

 

9 hours ago, Tha-Jamz said:

I agree that there are improvements but on the other hand still way to many game breaking bugs after a year, "There still issues, some serious like animal spawns" you say ?! really ? its one of the most important features ingame to make money, to cook food, for the trader role, to buy unlocked stuff from the roles etc.

Yea I do say. What you do you want me to do? Type it out in sparkly giant letters with glitter? Drape it in tinsel? I called it a serious issue which where I'm from means it's a serious issue. You don't need to type out a paragraph of bollocks to describe an issue with the game as serious.

 

Here, if you want a B&M from me it's that I'm sick of Rockstar taking 3-4 months to take 1 stab at fixing an issue, like animal spawns, because they only ever patch around the release of a content patch so if it doesn't get fixed then we have to put up with it for months until they take another go at fixing it, meanwhile there's other big games that can put out biweekly patches with new content, balancing changes and fixes. It took them a f*cking year to fix outfit slots on saddlebags. Hell, if we're talking about stuff they didn't learn from GTAO then outfit slots is another one. They learned that people want loads of them cause people like making outfits, so knowing that they RDO started on 3 (technically 5, if saddlebags worked) but even now only has 7. Next update no doubt will raise that to 10 like they're doing us a favour.

[Nerfgoth]

43 minutes ago, Tha-Jamz said:

I really hate the snow ! its killing immersion, when does it go away ?

The only financial implication is greed.

I was surprised it was on whole map! I was seeing it be more dynamic when the teased about it, like the bayou and New Austin not getting anything and north of Heartlands, West Elizabeth and Roanoke looking like Colter!

[Jason]

4 minutes ago, Nerfgoth said:

I was surprised it was on whole map! I was seeing it be more dynamic when the teased about it, like the bayou and New Austin not getting anything and north of Heartlands, West Elizabeth and Roanoke looking like Colter!

It is a little bit dynamic, I dunno if you played a few days before Christmas but there was slightly less snow on the ground than on Christmas Eve and day.

 

I really, really, really want them to make it an actual rare weather effect that lasts for a day or something but only pops a few times a year, maybe once a month. More reason to buy and use cold weather clothing the better man, it's some of the best clothing.

[kcole4001]

I'd really like full on seasons.

Sure, storms are inconvenient for hunting at times, but so is the fog we get currently.

More immersion is better.

That's what this game does right.

[Boozey St John]

Does it bother anyone else that we can't close our fecking coats?