The Red Dead Online B*tch & Moan Thread

[Leftover Pizza]

24 minutes ago, Ghetzi said:

Finally got around to getting that hunting wagon I've had my eye on for a while.  Took it out for a spin, loading up on 3 star deer and birds while counting the money Cripps and I were gonna make by the bucket.  In general, it was a grand old time...until I went over a tiny ledge I didn't see until the last minute, destroying my wagon and losing all of my cargo in the process.  I feel like the teenager who totals the car the first day he got his license.

 

F*ck you, foggy, snowy Heartlands.

 

Update:  Well wouldya lookit that?  Apparently you get to keep your carcasses after repairing the wagon and calling it out again.  Things are looking up, back in business, baby!

The only way to lose your cargo from the hunting wagon is to sell it or donate it to Cripps. That's the good thing of the wagon. Griefers can blow it up, but not destroy the cargo.

[Leftover Pizza]

4 minutes ago, Tha-Jamz said:

 

I did quit playing RDO for a long time and im back sinds a week or 2 now, i was fed up with the griefing and disconnects.

Its a bit better now with the defensive mode but still..., i do get griefed now and then.

So yes private sessions to solve that in the first place, i just wanna play with friends and friendly players and not with griefing baby's.

 

I was a very early beta player, from day 1, pre ordered the ultimate version and like i said in the beginning that i wouldnt mind invest in this game (gold bars) if i can play like i want to without the grief.

But if R* favors grief baby's over loyal and paying fans that could carry this game for a long time so be it.... then they can go F... them selves.

 

Excuse my French...

 

 

I criticize Rockstar a lot on the technical state of the game, but have to admit that I don't think they favor griefing much. QoL has improved a lot with Defensive Mode and recent nerfs of tonic usage. The times I got griefed since Defensive Mode launched, can be counted on 1 hand and I've played a lot. 
You can do a lot in Defensive Mode and solo too, which is bliss, imo. 
IMO, there is no need for Invite Only lobbies for griefer reasons. There is need for it for network reasons, though. Less players in the lobby means better wildlife spawns and less endless loading screens. 

[Tha-Jamz]

2 minutes ago, Leftover Pizza said:

I criticize Rockstar a lot on the technical state of the game, but have to admit that I don't think they favor griefing much. QoL has improved a lot with Defensive Mode and recent nerfs of tonic usage. The times I got griefed since Defensive Mode launched, can be counted on 1 hand and I've played a lot. 
You can do a lot in Defensive Mode and solo too, which is bliss, imo. 
IMO, there is no need for Invite Only lobbies for griefer reasons. There is need for it for network reasons, though. Less players in the lobby means better wildlife spawns and less endless loading screens. 

 

No not just for griefer reasons but personally i just want to play with friends and people i invite, and yes animal spawns, we had private lobby's in RDR 1 multiplayer, co-op and private lobby's are also in GTAV so why not in RDO.

That and its the 2nd most asked feature on the poll on the forum...

[Leftover Pizza]

2 minutes ago, Tha-Jamz said:

 

No not just for griefer reasons but personally i just want to play with friends and people i invite, and yes animal spawns, we had private lobby's in RDR 1 multiplayer, co-op and private lobby's are also in GTAV so why not in RDO.

That and its the 2nd most asked feature on the poll on the forum...

We don't get them, because Rockstar is convinced that we don't know what we really want and keep pushing forced public lobbies down our throats, knowing that a lot of players will resort to solo or invite only lobbies the second it gets launched. 
But hey, uncle Rockstar knows what's good for us. 

[Tha-Jamz]

3 minutes ago, Leftover Pizza said:

We don't get them, because Rockstar is convinced that we don't know what we really want and keep pushing forced public lobbies down our throats, knowing that a lot of players will resort to solo or invite only lobbies the second it gets launched. 
But hey, uncle Rockstar knows what's good for us. 

Im still not sure, there are a lot of references in the game files for private lobby's, so i still have hope we will get private lobby's.

 

Just watch this vid:

 

[Leftover Pizza]

1 minute ago, Tha-Jamz said:

Im still not sure, there are a lot of references in the game files for private lobby's, so i still have hope we will get private lobby's.

 

Just watch this vid:

 

AFAIK, they use the same engine and base code as GTAO. Their answer in some interview months ago, was that they will keep lobbies public and improve Defensive Mode. If all fails, they'd still consider different lobby types. To be honest, it didn't fail.
This interview was from before the FP update and griefing has decreased a lot, so Rockstar won't see much reason to implement private lobbies. 
Now, a good few months and 2 updates later, the hardest griefing I experience is from the technical state of the game. If the lobbies are full, it's broken af. If lobby size = < 16, it's fine. If you somehow get into a solo lobby and stay there, it's bliss. 

 

[Tha-Jamz]

13 minutes ago, Leftover Pizza said:

AFAIK, they use the same engine and base code as GTAO. Their answer in some interview months ago, was that they will keep lobbies public and improve Defensive Mode. If all fails, they'd still consider different lobby types. To be honest, it didn't fail.
This interview was from before the FP update and griefing has decreased a lot, so Rockstar won't see much reason to implement private lobbies. 
Now, a good few months and 2 updates later, the hardest griefing I experience is from the technical state of the game. If the lobbies are full, it's broken af. If lobby size = < 16, it's fine. If you somehow get into a solo lobby and stay there, it's bliss. 

 

 

Sigh..., thanks for hammering down my hopes on X-mass time... (lol just kiddin)

But R* said a lot in the past that wasnt true or changed later.

But it doesnt mean that there isnt much grief anymore because you didnt encounter griefers anymore or not so much anymore.

Im back for two weeks now and i got griefed still more then you encountered.

 

Same for the disconnects, thats something that doesnt happen to me anymore, well really sometimes, in these 2 weeks ive had this 3 times...

[Leftover Pizza]

8 minutes ago, Tha-Jamz said:

 

Sigh..., thanks for hammering down my hopes on X-mass time... (lol just kiddin)

But R* said a lot in the past that wasnt true or changed later.

But it doesnt mean that there isnt much grief anymore because you didnt encounter griefers anymore or not so much anymore.

Im back for two weeks now and i got griefed still more then you encountered.

 

Same for the disconnects, thats something that doesnt happen to me anymore, well really sometimes, in these 2 weeks ive had this 3 times...

 

It's not only my experience that griefing has decreased a lot. Many others have also experienced this. If you've been away for a long time, what rank are you now? Below 90? if so, they probably go after you, because they think you don't have access to explosive ammo or dynamite arrows to retaliate. 

I get taken shot at from time to time, but I don't count that as griefing and I don't always answer a first shot, unless there are no animals or other players in sight and their dot turns red. 

 

[Assblaster]

I don't think griefers take the time to look up your rank. They often just wander the streets of town, taking shots at anyone who wanders in. The griefing has let up a lot and is worst around dlc drops and weekends/holidays. Sometimes towns are a complete warzone, but most of the time it's easy-going and peaceful. There are rare times when the asshats are out to terrorize a session en masse, mostly though it's pretty good out there nowadays. Even if you don't have explosives, you can take care of yourself well enough with a shotgun to the chest...first blast stuns, second blast kills...usually. And the defensive mode boost is very helpful, saved my life more than once.

[Tha-Jamz]

18 minutes ago, Leftover Pizza said:

 

It's not only my experience that griefing has decreased a lot. Many others have also experienced this. If you've been away for a long time, what rank are you now? Below 90? if so, they probably go after you, because they think you don't have access to explosive ammo or dynamite arrows to retaliate. 

I get taken shot at from time to time, but I don't count that as griefing and I don't always answer a first shot, unless there are no animals or other players in sight and their dot turns red. 

 

Im rank 27.

They just found a new way, head shots you when you stand still, looking up your benefits or place a waypoint in map etc, Shooting my horse, throwing dynamite.

Its less then before (the grief) i just said that it happened to me more times then you already in 2 weeks now.

And often or not its still annoying.

 

It cost time, disturbs what im doing, and time is $$$ in this game.

 

[Leftover Pizza]

2 minutes ago, Tha-Jamz said:

Im rank 27.

They just found a new way, head shots you when you stand still, looking up your benefits or place a waypoint in map etc, Shooting my horse, throwing dynamite.

Its less then before (the grief) i just said that it happened to me more times then you already in 2 weeks now.

And often or not its still annoying.

 

It cost time, disturbs what im doing, and time is $$$ in this game.

 

 

Rank your ass up fast doing the Collector role. At rank 27 you're a sitting duck to griefers.  

[Leftover Pizza]

18 minutes ago, Assblaster said:

I don't think griefers take the time to look up your rank. They often just wander the streets of town, taking shots at anyone who wanders in. The griefing has let up a lot and is worst around dlc drops and weekends/holidays. Sometimes towns are a complete warzone, but most of the time it's easy-going and peaceful. There are rare times when the asshats are out to terrorize a session en masse, mostly though it's pretty good out there nowadays. Even if you don't have explosives, you can take care of yourself well enough with a shotgun to the chest...first blast stuns, second blast kills...usually. And the defensive mode boost is very helpful, saved my life more than once.

I don’t rank someone shooting up a town, including random players, a real griefer.

A griefer, imo, is someone who takes it out on players who they know can’t fight back much and keep killing those over and over again.  
But, that’s from my personal perspective, which may differ from many.

 

[Tha-Jamz]

19 minutes ago, Leftover Pizza said:

 

Rank your ass up fast doing the Collector role. At rank 27 you're a sitting duck to griefers.  

Your assuming i got that role and have enough money to buy stuff to do everything quickly for that role... lol

Im a old gaming fart and not that fast anymore... hahahha

[Nick1020]

Griefers are the reason why I'm always in a group fighting and never solo. Too many using slow and steady builds chugging tonics and using all of their explosive or incendiary ammo. When you play their game that's when they quit. 

[Leftover Pizza]

1 minute ago, Tha-Jamz said:

Your assuming i got that role and have enough money to buy stuff to do everything quickly for that role... lol

Im a old gaming fart and not that fast anymore... hahahha

 

Surprise! You're a youngster compared to me. I'm 9 days from celebrating my 65th winter  

 

If there is any role you don't need speed for, it's collecting.  

[Tha-Jamz]

7 minutes ago, Leftover Pizza said:

 

Surprise! You're a youngster compared to me. I'm 9 days from celebrating my 65th winter  

 

If there is any role you don't need speed for, it's collecting.  

Well i could be over rank 90 if i didnt get disconnected every 15 minutes in the beginning of RDO, its sinds the last update that this dont happen anymore, well rarely now.

I just wanna play in peace so thats why i still hope for private lobby's.

[Leftover Pizza]

2 minutes ago, Tha-Jamz said:

Well i could be over rank 90 if i didnt get disconnected every 15 minutes in the beginning of RDO, its sinds the last update that this dont happen anymore, well rarely now.

I just wanna play in peace so thats why i still hope for private lobby's.

 

Yeah, I get where you're coming from. Technical issues are the worst to deal with in this game. I'm hoping for private lobbies too, but I'm not much convinced that Rockstar will implement these soon, or at all. 

[Tha-Jamz]

3 minutes ago, Leftover Pizza said:

 

Yeah, I get where you're coming from. Technical issues are the worst to deal with in this game. I'm hoping for private lobbies too, but I'm not much convinced that Rockstar will implement these soon, or at all. 

Well if enough people keep asking for it, it still might happen, again its the 2nd most asked feature in the poll on this forum (gtaforums) regarding RDO.

[hotrats773]

2 hours ago, Leftover Pizza said:

We don't get them, because Rockstar is convinced that we don't know what we really want and keep pushing forced public lobbies down our throats, knowing that a lot of players will resort to solo or invite only lobbies the second it gets launched. 
But hey, uncle Rockstar knows what's good for us. 

Hence why GTA can go suck a bag of dicks. The stuff I'd like to do is locked behind forced public sessions. I have full warehouses on EVERYTHING that have been sitting for six months (managed to fill them by just by owning the nightclub) but I'll be damned if I'm going to buy into R*'s fascination with forced public play and try to sell them. Public servers in GTA are gaming cancer of the anus.

R* clings to this fantasy that somehow forced public sessions will encourage a spirit of cooperation and/or that having all your sh*t destroyed is in the spirit of online play. That fantasy is alive and well here in RDO. Not even providing an option pretty much tells you where their spirit is.

[NChabb]

5 minutes ago, hotrats773 said:

Hence why GTA can go suck a bag of dicks. The stuff I'd like to do is locked behind forced public sessions. I have full warehouses on EVERYTHING that have been sitting for six months (managed to fill them by just by owning the nightclub) but I'll be damned if I'm going to buy into R*'s fascination with forced public play and try to sell them. Public servers in GTA are gaming cancer of the anus.

R* clings to this fantasy that somehow forced public sessions will encourage a spirit of cooperation and/or that having all your sh*t destroyed is in the spirit of online play. That fantasy is alive and well here in RDO. Not even providing an option pretty much tells you where their spirit is.

It’s a shame that the only way to not lose your mind is by glitching solo lobbies. It’s not normal.

 

That said, afaik the latest update introduced something in the Arcade that allows to manage things in Private lobby. Still not sure if it’s a bug or intended but it does save some headaches.

Edited December 23, 2019 by NChabb

[Leftover Pizza]

3 minutes ago, hotrats773 said:

Hence why GTA can go suck a bag of dicks. The stuff I'd like to do is locked behind forced public sessions. I have full warehouses on EVERYTHING that have been sitting for six months (managed to fill them by just by owning the nightclub) but I'll be damned if I'm going to buy into R*'s fascination with forced public play and try to sell them. Public servers in GTA are gaming cancer of the anus.

R* clings to this fantasy that somehow forced public sessions will encourage a spirit of cooperation and/or that having all your sh*t destroyed is in the spirit of online play. That fantasy is alive and well here in RDO. Not even providing an option pretty much tells you where their spirit is.

 

GTAO is easy to glitch a solo public lobby in by lowering MTU to 710 on console. One can forget about that in RDO, sadly. But yeah, uncle Rockstar knows what's best for us.......

[hotrats773]

13 minutes ago, Leftover Pizza said:

 

GTAO is easy to glitch a solo public lobby in by lowering MTU to 710 on console. One can forget about that in RDO, sadly. But yeah, uncle Rockstar knows what's best for us.......

LOL. I thought the MTU workaround was patched! Time to revisit

[RyuNova]

You can also buy the Master Control Terminal in the Arcade and sell your businesses inside an Invite Only Lobby. R* actually added a legit way.

[Leftover Pizza]

43 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

You can also buy the Master Control Terminal in the Arcade and sell your businesses inside an Invite Only Lobby. R* actually added a legit way.

I thought that was patched day#1? Or have they turned it back on again?

[RyuNova]

6 minutes ago, Leftover Pizza said:

I thought that was patched day#1? Or have they turned it back on again?

 

Its been patched?

[Leftover Pizza]

9 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

 

Its been patched?

I remember it being patched within a few hours already. Unless that was a mistake that got rectified, it’s only usable in a public session. 

[RyuNova]

1 minute ago, Leftover Pizza said:

I remember it being patched within a few hours already. Unless that was a mistake that got rectified, it’s only usable in a public session. 

 

VAT DA FAAAAK!

[Leftover Pizza]

32 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

 

VAT DA FAAAAK!

 

I even think I read it on the forums here......

 

Here it is:

 

 

Edited December 23, 2019 by Leftover Pizza

[Between3and22char]

My camp keeps changing location by it self, so annoying.

[Tha-Jamz]

5 hours ago, Leftover Pizza said:

 

Rank your ass up fast doing the Collector role. At rank 27 you're a sitting duck to griefers.  

Collector role, so im trying that, dig sites are bugged or i am doing something wrong, yes i got the shovel and using eagle eye.

changed session, rebooted my game, rebooted ps4, nothing...

So much for rankin up fast, animal spawns are f*cked up, its still a sh*tshow....

 

Thanks R* sigh...