Spider-Vice Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 More info on Discounts and More on the R* Newswire Rev. Gnash, BJBooBoo, TheOriginalGunslinger and 2 others 5 GTANet | Red Dead Network | black lives matter | stop Asian hate | trans lives = human lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Gnash Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Hello, Mr. Pocket. kcole4001, OREOBOREALIS, WanteD1 and 3 others 2 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuNova Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Interesting. Free Roam Homestead robberies will be Stranger missions where the objective is an item. Like the Saint-Denis Robbery Telegram mission but in Free Roam. No "upfront expenditures"? This does not bode well for me, why would R* miss a chance to fleece people out of thirty Gold Bars to buy a Jewelled Dildo or whatever the pay wall is for the Role? This stinks of them being glorified Stranger missions like we said. JohnMcLoviin, TheOriginalGunslinger, Officer Friendly and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Viewbob Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 new update???? Rev. Gnash, WanteD1, Standard Deluxe 59 and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateAntic Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Glad they clarified its early summer. Should put a rest to the speculation that it would come out in September. WanteD1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcole4001 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, RyuNova said: Interesting. Free Roam Homestead robberies will be Stranger missions where the objective is an item. Like the Saint-Denis Robbery Telegram mission but in Free Roam. No "upfront expenditures"? This does not bode well for me, why would R* miss a chance to fleece people out of thirty Gold Bars to buy a Jewelled Dildo or whatever the pay wall is for the Role? This stinks of them being glorified Stranger missions like we said. I'm expecting Pass 6 to be monetized up the hoop (IE: more than the previous versions). Could be wrong, maybe there are going to be optional gold costs to doing robberies, like fancy guns/equipment, which might be worthwhile anyway. Possibly hidden cash costs like springing for lookouts, etc. during heists. Still nothing significant to buy with all our hard earned gold/money. Unfortunately that appears to be the road travelled as it is in GTA, more ways to make money with no real goal to look forward to. Snare new players who last until they realize there's nothing to do but make money/gold, then they get bored and leave. I'm thinking what is needed is perhaps buying a share in starting up a riverboat concern (because of border tensions, bribes are required to facilitate access, etc.) that allows travel to Mexico, where properties are available, both options costing major quantities of gold. Who among us wouldn't shell out whatever it takes to get that? A huge amount of people would certainly buy gold bars to do so. It would take something of that magnitude to redeem the game (and R*), in my opinion. I'll still give them sh*te for absolutely refusing to communicate with the community, however. Edited June 8, 2021 by kcole4001 spelling StyxTx, Rockstarsucks33 and Direwrath 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caffeination Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Cool, but when will they revert the nerf of daily challenges gold? Because seeing 0.1 instead of 0.2 and the dissolution of 28+ days streak is upsetting. Rockstarsucks33, Rev. Gnash and kcole4001 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surebrec Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, Caffeination said: Cool, but when will they revert the nerf of daily challenges gold? Because seeing 0.1 instead of 0.2 and the dissolution of 28+ days streak is upsetting. I don't see that happening at all. I think the way it is now, is how they intended it to be. Their mistake though, was taking as long as they did to address it, because leaving it as long as they did, players inevitably felt like something was taken away, something that maybe they were never intended to have had to begin with when they actually did get round to sorting it. kcole4001 and Rockstarsucks33 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Spark Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 4 hours ago, RyuNova said: ...why would R* miss a chance to fleece people out of thirty Gold Bars to buy a Jewelled Dildo or whatever the pay wall is for the Role? ... Never one to miss an opportunity, that's where the "...all new membership rewards club..." comes in. Direwrath and kcole4001 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBuffalo Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) This paragraph is underwhelming. I am not interested in random events in free roam. There are more than enough and there bull$h!t timers can f'off. If its a free roam event, huge pass. There are plenty of those as well, timer issues are just as bad or even worse for events. If it something that is triggered by the player, whenever a player chooses such as a mission in freeroam that could be interesting. Even so, its hard to imagine how this could be implemented being challenging and fun over a more than month. As many have said, thats a stranger mission. The game needs 3 new roles. Gambler, rancher, and outlaw. The other roles do not need expansion. But it seems we are not getting that...maybe they will add ornate crap to buy for our camp moonshine shack. They usually mention this kind of stuff to build interest. Edited June 9, 2021 by CosmicBuffalo Direwrath 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direwrath Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 But I've already been kinda "robbing" homesteads? Unless they don't consider barging into these people's homes and stealing their jewelry, coffee, and canned corn robberies? I've also been so bold as to walk up to a woman on the front porch of her home and turn to look at her just before I steal her hairbrush off of the table next to her. Oh, I think I know a thing or two about doing robberies. My question is, will these free roam events work? kcole4001 and StyxTx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ring Dang Do Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 8 hours ago, RyuNova said: Interesting. Free Roam Homestead robberies will be Stranger missions where the objective is an item. Like the Saint-Denis Robbery Telegram mission but in Free Roam. No "upfront expenditures"? This does not bode well for me, why would R* miss a chance to fleece people out of thirty Gold Bars to buy a Jewelled Dildo or whatever the pay wall is for the Role? This stinks of them being glorified Stranger missions like we said. Depends how its added as in if its in missions or simply things we can now do in free roam. If the update allows us to rob npcs, shops, homesteads, coaches, horses and trains like we can in storymode then I fully welcome the update as the world in online is incredibly lacking and empty of things to do and needs to be fledged out in that department. I'm fed up with basic things like legendary animals being locked behind roles with no depth to them. I would rather Rockstar puts more effort into a role and give us something new and exciting rather than copy and pasting existing/basic game mechanics from storymode and slapping 30 Gold bars in front of it. To increase the replayability robbing places should include a chance to drop a item like a weapon or npc hat rather than just hard cash/gold. Just like robbing homes in story mode sometimes you would come across a unique weapon or the npc might have a hat you could steal and save. 1 hour ago, Direwrath said: My question is, will these free roam events work? If the homes/shop are not in a separate instance then they could work the same way as other free roam events and pop up like a moonshine roadblock or have a cooldown once done. 6 hours ago, kcole4001 said: I'm thinking what is needed is perhaps buying a share in starting up a riverboat concern (because of border tensions, bribes are required to facilitate access, etc.) that allows travel to Mexico, where properties are available, both options costing major quantities of gold. Who among us wouldn't shell out whatever it takes to get that? A huge amount of people would certainly buy gold bars to do so. It would take something of that magnitude to redeem the game (and R*), in my opinion. I'll still give them sh*te for absolutely refusing to communicate with the community, however. I agree we need something to spend our money/gold on however I see properties as end game and places like Mexico coming much later. There's still so much content lacking from the base game so increasing the map size would only make the situation even worse just now. Direwrath, kcole4001 and StyxTx 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerfgoth Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Direwrath said: My question is, will these free roam events work? 5 minutes ago, Ring Dang Do said: If the homes/shop are not in a separate instance then they could work the same way as other free roam events and pop up like a moonshine roadblock or have a cooldown once done. In the beginning I think R* will force spawn them and then they will be broken just like all other events! Direwrath 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ring Dang Do Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Nerfgoth said: In the beginning I think R* will force spawn them and then they will be broken just like all other events! It is a bit hit or miss sometimes but when they work it really does make the world feel more alive. I can leave Tumbleweed and right outside of town there will be a moonshine roadblock and just down the road from that there will be a naturalist event with 2 locked up animals to free, if you hit both of them one after the other then come across a 3rd event it really does feel like a the world is alive. I dread to think how basic and bare online is right now with no roles purchased and only coming across a man stuck up in a tree once in a blue moon. Rockstarsucks33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowfennekin Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 It's in FREE ROAM! YES!!!! Now let us rob stores! "bUt I wAnNa ShOp In PeAcE" You can buy from a f*cking magazine in your camp! Let us have fun! Rev. Gnash, Direwrath and Nerfgoth 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerfgoth Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Ring Dang Do said: It is a bit hit or miss sometimes but when they work it really does make the world feel more alive. I can leave Tumbleweed and right outside of town there will be a moonshine roadblock and just down the road from that there will be a naturalist event with 2 locked up animals to free, if you hit both of them one after the other then come across a 3rd event it really does feel like a the world is alive. I dread to think how basic and bare online is right now with no roles purchased and only coming across a man stuck up in a tree once in a blue moon. Now that you mentioned it is boring. We only got ambushes or help someone in need. Oh and that dog one too and hideouts. The rolls added about 7 new ones if my math is correct. So with this update we get some more. If they are not connected to any roll the chances are high that they will pop up as dailies. 27 minutes ago, Shadowfennekin said: It's in FREE ROAM! YES!!!! Now let us rob stores! "bUt I wAnNa ShOp In PeAcE" You can buy from a f*cking magazine in your camp! Let us have fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuNova Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 9 hours ago, Dark Spark said: Never one to miss an opportunity, that's where the "...all new membership rewards club..." comes in. This does not bode well for me either. Is this another "Club" on top of The Outlaw Pass? Is it going to be some stupid thing like a "Gentleman's Club" in Saint-Denis or something where you pay a daily or weekly Gold fee and get bonuses like Solo Lobbies which I predicted a long time ago. Something like the Fallout 1st Pass in FO76. 6 hours ago, Ring Dang Do said: I would rather Rockstar puts more effort into a role and give us something new and exciting rather than copy and pasting existing/basic game mechanics from storymode and slapping 30 Gold bars in front of it. Said this as well. We need more "basic" content that's not locked behind absurd paywalls. Like notice boards that give randomly generated jobs like "Hunt ten Squirrels and return to Dave at Emerald Ranch" or "Deliver a letter to Rhodes". Each board should be instanced for that area as well so you are not being sent halfway across the map for an errand. They could even use this to add stuff like Sheep Herding as a notice board mission. Some people dont want to be criminals or Moonshine Empire Lords. 6 hours ago, Ring Dang Do said: To increase the replayability robbing places should include a chance to drop a item like a weapon or npc hat rather than just hard cash/gold. Just like robbing homes in story mode sometimes you would come across a unique weapon or the npc might have a hat you could steal and save. This is a good idea, have a small chance for players to steal clothing items or "coupons" for stuff like discounts on weapon metal changes or saddles. Bruyamang2, Ring Dang Do, kcole4001 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnDekkers Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) Let me guess, Rockstar noticed the backlash and now they decide to throw us a chewed-up bone, to see where not to cross the line. In other words "Minimal Dripfeed"! Edited June 9, 2021 by JohnDekkers Direwrath 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StyxTx Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Direwrath said: My question is, will these free roam events work? That's the million dollar question. What's the point of adding more free roam events if most of what they have now don't work, not on PC anyway. Smaller (8 players or less) or solo lobbies would fix the spawn issue but that won't be part of the update. Edited June 9, 2021 by StyxTx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuNova Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Just now, StyxTx said: That's the million dollar question. What's the point of adding more free roam events if most of what they have now don't work, not on PC anyway. They wont be "Free Roam Events" they will be Stranger Missions, exactly how SM work now where it loads the actual event when you activate the NPC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StyxTx Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, RyuNova said: They wont be "Free Roam Events" they will be Stranger Missions, exactly how SM work now where it loads the actual event when you activate the NPC. Ok. I stopped doing stranger missions long ago. First, there's no challenge to them. Second, I've done so many of them I'm just burned out. Now, if they'd actually make them difficult I'd hop on them. If it's like the ones in the game now, forget it. Edited June 9, 2021 by StyxTx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuNova Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 minute ago, StyxTx said: Ok. I stopped doing stranger missions long ago. First, there's no challenge to them. Second, I've done so many of them I'm just burned out. Now, if they'd actually make them difficult I'd hop on them. If it's like the ones in the game now, forget it. Why bother? The payouts vs time/energy spent is atrocious, and the timers can suck my balls. This game would be a hundred times better if stuff was not timed. I cant enjoy the game with my friends if all we do is constantly rush from one place to another to beat some arbitrary timer that makes no f*cking sense. Why plan out a Bounty take down when after spending ten minutes riding across the map or hunting them down we have two minutes left on some invisible timer? StyxTx, kcole4001, TheOriginalGunslinger and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StyxTx Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, RyuNova said: Why bother? The payouts vs time/energy spent is atrocious, and the timers can suck my balls. This game would be a hundred times better if stuff was not timed. I cant enjoy the game with my friends if all we do is constantly rush from one place to another to beat some arbitrary timer that makes no f*cking sense. Why plan out a Bounty take down when after spending ten minutes riding across the map or hunting them down we have two minutes left on some invisible timer? I was thinking about the timers. Maybe those were added because the job is so easy. Timers do add a bit of a challenge. I wouldn't take that route though. I'd just make everything more challenging. The NPCs in this game are atrocious and boring as hell. The timer in the stranger missions, except for maybe the mail deliveries, is absurdly long though and you have to sit and drain the clock to get maximum payout? That's ridiculous. The bonus should come from the quickness that the job is done. Anyway, for me, I need challenges. I get that from all the other games I have and that's what makes them fun to me. That just isn't there in RDO. Does anyone ever feel threatened by NPCs? Edited June 9, 2021 by StyxTx Krommer and kcole4001 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarksunDaFirst Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Well now my alt account will have as much money as my primary (I stopped accumulating around $80K). Maybe it’s time to cash in those sets now, just in case R* starts charging more money for everything. Seriously - Collector Role broke RDR economy. 3 hours ago, StyxTx said: Ok. I stopped doing stranger missions long ago. First, there's no challenge to them. Second, I've done so many of them I'm just burned out. Now, if they'd actually make them difficult I'd hop on them. If it's like the ones in the game now, forget it. I mainly only accept the PvP Stranger Missions now (Shaky and The Boy) and jump on every player bounty I see. StyxTx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StyxTx Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 6 hours ago, DarksunDaFirst said: Well now my alt account will have as much money as my primary (I stopped accumulating around $80K). Maybe it’s time to cash in those sets now, just in case R* starts charging more money for everything. Seriously - Collector Role broke RDR economy. I mainly only accept the PvP Stranger Missions now (Shaky and The Boy) and jump on every player bounty I see. The jailbreaks when it's only you and not a posse trying to keep the dude alive can be tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direwrath Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 18 hours ago, Ring Dang Do said: If the homes/shop are not in a separate instance then they could work the same way as other free roam events and pop up like a moonshine roadblock or have a cooldown once done. I would just like more of a chance of having these types of events happen than another revenue agent road block, which is typically what I see when I play. 18 hours ago, Nerfgoth said: In the beginning I think R* will force spawn them and then they will be broken just like all other events! This is what I am worried about, finally they bring us something fun and it's a hit and miss if we'll ever be able to do it. StyxTx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowfennekin Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Hopefully they reward gold and not just cash, lord knows we've got TOO much cash and too few cash purchases to be made... And decent XP cause I'd like to rob to progress the new Pass Direwrath 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krommer Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) On 6/8/2021 at 4:28 PM, kcole4001 said: I'm expecting Pass 6 to be monetized up the hoop I expect it to be like 5, where if you bought it right away you got the entire amount of gold back from doing it. I was OK with that, since I finished it pretty fast just by doing dailies. I just hope these "free roam homesteader" things are not like hideouts are now, where you can't find one when you want to I've not read anywhere that they will be "stranger missions" for SURE; where has anyone read that? You can't ever tell with Rockstar. It is kind of bad, either way. If it is a stranger mission, you can bet there will be a long cool down before you can do another homestead robbery. If it is just a random "find" thing, then you can bet they'll be hard to bump into (even using the jeanropke map/whatever.) Edited June 10, 2021 by Krommer kcole4001 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowfennekin Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Krommer said: I expect it to be like 5, where if you bought it right away you got the entire amount of gold back from doing it. I was OK with that, since I finished it pretty fast just by doing dailies. I just hope these "free roam homesteader" things are not like hideouts are now, where you can't find one when you want to I've not read anywhere that they will be "stranger missions" for SURE; where has anyone read that? You can't ever tell with Rockstar. It is kind of bad, either way. If it is a stranger mission, you can bet there will be a long cool down before you can do another homestead robbery. If it is just a random "find" thing, then you can bet they'll be hard to bump into (even using the jeanropke map/whatever.) That is how 4 was too. Nowadays it seems that if you want to buy the Pass at all, do it week 1. The 'discount' that people wait for and think is precious? It's always a pathetic 5 gold off... so you still lose 5 gold, not 10. Doing it week one ensures you get all that gold back Waiting on a discount worked when you actually made your gold back with progress but not anymore Edited June 10, 2021 by Shadowfennekin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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