What are some of your headcanons?

[deathdealer]

The events of the 3d trilogy did occur in some form and fashion. Claude simply went off the grid after killing Catalina, most likely leaving Liberty city due to the heat from the other gangs with the gangs that were there being dissolved or chased out due to most off them being weakened at the end.

 

Can't really comment on tommy but I would assume he would be dead by the events  of GTA 4.

 

I would also assume salvatore made good on his threat eventually and assassinated CJ and his family. Likely shortly before Toni returned to liberty city with sweet being the last to die because he runs off.

[LowTierDude]

I'd like to think Ivan as of 2021 becomes the leader of a feared Alderney-based mob or street gang after the events of IV, if Niko spares him, judging by his random encounter.

Edited December 28, 2021 by sabitsuki

[Ivan1997GTA]

I personally think that Vincenzo Cilli, in addition to working with the Leone family, was also a secret informant for the LCPD who planned to rat some of the Leone members out to the cops. That would make sense, given his comment about being watched by the feds in the mission "Hot Wheels" and Toni being ambushed by the police moments after stealing the drug-filled Banshee. Once Toni accused Vinnie of setting him up, the LCPD cut ties with Vinnie, leaving him to unsuccessfully attempting to kill Toni in the mission "The Portland Chainsaw Masquerade".

 

It would be kinda funny, considering that Vinnie's voice actor, Joe Lo Truglio, would end up playing a police officer years later in Brooklyn Nine-Nine.

Edited December 28, 2021 by Ivan1997GTA

[Guest]

8 hours ago, Ivan1997GTA said:

I personally think that Vincenzo Cilli, in addition to working with the Leone family, was also a secret informant for the LCPD who planned to rat some of the Leone members out to the cops. That would make sense, given his comment about being watched by the feds in the mission "Hot Wheels" and Toni being ambushed by the police moments after stealing the drug-filled Banshee. Once Toni accused Vinnie of setting him up, the LCPD cut ties with Vinnie, leaving him to unsuccessfully attempting to kill Toni in the mission "The Portland Chainsaw Masquerade".

 

It would be kinda funny, considering that Vinnie's voice actor, Joe Lo Truglio, would end up playing a police officer years later in Brooklyn Nine-Nine.

That's actually an extremely plausible headcanon! If you check out LCS' old Flash website (https://classicgtasites.com/) you can find emails from various characters such as Maria etc. stating that he's hinted to be disloyal despite being the "blue-eyed boy" of Salvatore. Nice one.

[Mindshower]

I wouldn't say it's a personal canon for me, but I've always entertained the thought that the child Mallorie is pregnant with at the end of the game is Vlad's from their short affair. Also that Oleg Minkov accidentally discovered a human trafficking or general criminal operation happening near the Caspian sea that implicated the U.S government and Ray Bulgarin. Oh, and Billy was a fed meant to either get the club into serious trouble with heroin or outright murdered in a gang war. Either way, his release was contigent on the Alderney Chapter disintegrating, and he achieved that in death.

 

Johnny's death is canon, but so is option A for me. Michael burned everyone he ever knew, so it was a fitting end. Michael and Franklin become too similar to get along afterwards, I like that. B is too harsh and C is a fairytale spun by those afraid to look life in the eye, or something.

Edited December 29, 2021 by Mindshower

[VenusianDream]

I always headcanoned that option A is what really happened as well, until Online ruined things (Seriously, what was the point in even giving us options if R* was just gonna make C the canon choice?)

 

I liked the idea of Franklin taking after Michael and screwing him over in the end like he did to Trevor and Brad. It seemed like the most realistic ending to me. Franklin is a representation of the GTA 3D Era, where the protagonists usually end up betraying the people they work for. Lamar even talks about this, stating that that's how things are in the criminal life and that Franklin had also killed some guy he used to work for in the past. I always took that conversation as a subtle foretelling of him eventually doing the same to Michael.

Edited December 29, 2021 by VenusianDream

[The Journey]

1 hour ago, VenusianDream said:

I always headcanoned that option A is what really happened as well, until Online ruined things (Seriously, what was the point in even giving us options if R* was just gonna make C the canon choice?)

 

I liked the idea of Franklin taking after Michael and screwing him over in the end like he did to Trevor and Brad. It seemed like the most realistic ending to me. Franklin is a representation of the GTA 3D Era, where the protagonists usually end up betraying the people they work for. Lamar even talks about this, stating that that's how things are in the criminal life and that Franklin had also killed some guy he used to work for in the past. I always took that conversation as a subtle foretelling of him eventually doing the same to Michael.

Trevor def could've died. Ron mentions that he hasn't seen him for years in Smugglers Run and the last thing he remembers is him "running off to Vinewood" to become a "lifestyle guru".

Edited December 29, 2021 by J LaFleur

[Dave Mustaine 1998]

Devin Weston is based on Howard Hughes. Think about it. Both are billionaire businessmen with their hands in Hollywood, organized crime, and many other things, both are eccentrics, and both know they way with women. They also both seem to have a fascination with airplanes.

[Haruko Haruhara]

I'm late to the party about Trevor dying, but I like to think he died differently:

 

Years after the option C ending, he finally expanded his business to Hove Beach, like how he told Ron in Minor Turbulence. All goes well until he pisses off Kenny Petrovic. Now he spends his days chilling in the depths of the Humboldt River, if you catch my drift.

[Guest]

Towards the end of GTA3's storyline, Liberty City begins to suffer from intense traffic jams.

 

The lack of ferries puts all the workload onto the roads, bridges and Porter Road Tunnels. The subway and L-Train systems are only used by people who don't own cars and the ban on motorbikes doesn't help either as people are forced to buy a car in order to travel, which only worsens the situation by the day.

 

Mayor O'Donovan eventually realizes shutting down the ferries was a bad idea (when people finally get fed up and protest about it), and orders for the reconstruction of three new ferry terminals in the city.

 

27 minutes ago, Eugene H. Krabs said:

I'm late to the party about Trevor dying, but I like to think he died differently:

 

Years after the option C ending, he finally expanded his business to Hove Beach, like how he told Ron in Minor Turbulence. All goes well until he pisses off Kenny Petrovic. Now he spends his days chilling in the depths of the Humboldt River, if you catch my drift.

Nah, he's found living in a swamp-enclosed redneck trailer park somewhere in the everglades during GTA6's intro and the first appearance of our new Latino protagonist begins with him shooting Trevor in the head. Common R* logic.

Edited April 18, 2022 by H-G

[Silver]

I like to think that Bully is part of the 3D universe.

[Dave Mustaine 1998]

18 minutes ago, Legomanarthur said:

I like to think that Bully is part of the 3D universe.

Agreed. Same with both Manhunt games.

1 hour ago, Eugene H. Krabs said:

I'm late to the party about Trevor dying, but I like to think he died differently:

 

Years after the option C ending, he finally expanded his business to Hove Beach, like how he told Ron in Minor Turbulence. All goes well until he pisses off Kenny Petrovic. Now he spends his days chilling in the depths of the Humboldt River, if you catch my drift.

Neat theory, man. Do you suppose that Michael and Franklin also died years after the option C ending?

[Guest]

18 minutes ago, Legomanarthur said:

I like to think that Bully is part of the 3D universe.

AFAIK Bully and MH1+2 should be both canon across all GTA universes. There are references to Carcer City and Bullworth in IV and V too.

[Silver]

3 minutes ago, H-G said:

AFAIK Bully and MH1+2 should be both canon across all GTA universes. There are references to Carcer City and Bullworth in IV and V too.

I may be wrong about this but I can't think of any reference to Bullworth in IV other than in "Final Interview" with Niko's resume mentioning Bulford Academy instead of Bullworth (although I read that it used to say Bullworth but was changed after a patch apparently). I don't know about any mention of Bullworth in V though.

Still, I also think it can coexist in both universes but I'm more partial towards the 3D universe mainly because of the overall style of the game.

 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Legomanarthur said:

I may be wrong about this but I can't think of any reference to Bullworth in IV other than in "Final Interview" with Niko's resume mentioning Bulford Academy instead of Bullworth (although I read that it used to say Bullworth but was changed after a patch apparently). I don't know about any mention of Bullworth in V though.

Still, I also think it can coexist in both universes but I'm more partial towards the 3D universe mainly because of the overall style of the game.

 

In IV you can see shots of the Bullworth Academy while watching TV, and in V there's a dialogue from Micheal where he said he robbed a bank just outside Carcer City (reading the latter off the wiki, mind you, so heavy citation needed).

Edited April 18, 2022 by H-G

[Silver]

6 minutes ago, H-G said:

In IV you can see shots of the Bullworth Academy while watching TV, and in V there's a dialogue from Micheal where he said he robbed a bank just outside Carcer City (reading the latter off the wiki, mind you, so heavy citation needed).

Oh yeah I forgot about that one.

As for Carcer City, it's definitely part of both the 3D and HD universe. There's plenty of references in IV, like that ped saying "This is Liberty not f*cking Carcer!" when shocked. I remember Michael mentioning Carcer on the road to Paleto Bay before the Paleto score. Now when it comes to the events of both Bully and Manhunt, I like to think that they took place in the 3D universe, but it's just my opinion.

[Guest]

Following the events of VC, Diaz' two "useless" guys who follow Tommy around for help in the "Bar Brawl" mission plan to overthrow him by throwing him into the water while he's sleeping, but Ken overhears them and tells Tommy about it.

 

Tommy then decides to learn how to swim and the two useless dudes' plan backfires epically on the mansion's jetty.

[JetNormalGuy]

My headcanon is that the event from the 3D era more or less happened in the HD universe just because it makes its less depressing to think about how all the crazy sh*t we've pulled off in older gta games is disregarded in the sequels.

[universetwisters]

1 hour ago, ThatBenGuy1998 said:

Do you suppose that Michael and Franklin also died years after the option C ending?

 

Franklin literally showed up like 9 years later in GTA Online

[JetNormalGuy]

On 4/18/2022 at 10:08 PM, universetwisters said:

 

Franklin literally showed up like 9 years later in GTA Online

Who said its THE Franklin huh? maybe its the not yee-yee ass haircut, no bitches on his dick, lives alone in a mansion Franklin we played as in story mode. And to top it all off...

 

Real Frankiln doesn't have kids. checkmate losers, get your GTA lore right 

[universetwisters]

11 minutes ago, JetNormalGuy said:

Who said its THE Franklin huh? maybe its the not yee-yee ass haircut, no bitches on his dick, lives alone in a mansion Franklin we played as in story mode. And to top it all off...

 

Real Frankiln doesn't have kids. checkmate losers, get your GTA lore right 

 

bro I know for a fact its the same franklin because theres only one person named franklin in the world

[billiejoearmstrong8]

On 4/3/2022 at 6:56 PM, ThatBenGuy1998 said:

Devin Weston is based on Howard Hughes. Think about it. Both are billionaire businessmen with their hands in Hollywood, organized crime, and many other things, both are eccentrics, and both know they way with women. They also both seem to have a fascination with airplanes.

 

More like he's based on Strauss Zelnick

Edited April 21, 2022 by billiejoearmstrong8

[Guest]

38 minutes ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

More like he's based on Strauss Zelnick

Then it's interesting how R* jokes about Strauss in two consecutive games (Devin in GTA V, Leopold Strauss in RDR 2)

[Guest]

9 hours ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

 

More like he's based on Strauss Zelnick

They need to parody sharkcard buyers next, would make for a great deal of harm to GTAO playerbase size.

 

OT:

 

According to LCS' instruction manual, the game's storyline should begin on the 30th of October in the year 1998, and going by the logic of each mission taking place one day after another (e.g: first mission on the 30th, second on the 31st, third on the 1st of November, fourth on 2nd November etc.), the game's storyline ends up with much of it's mid-story missions taking place during late-November and nearly the whole of December.

 

So that, and the fact that LCS' game engine can render snow particle effects, it safe to say that it canonically snows during the storyline of LCS.

 

The same can be said for GTA3 with the storyline starting on the 3rd of October in 2001, although it's storyline may bound to end earlier than December if you happen to only do the main missions that get you closer to the final mission (e.g: using the trick mentioned in this post).

Edited April 21, 2022 by H-G

[Jeansowaty]

If GTA LCS and VCS fared even better, Rockstar would have made GTA Los Santos Stories, set in 1987 only in Los Santos, released on PSP and PS2.

 

If GTA LCS and VCS fared even better, plus IV's developement cycle would've been started later, R* would have released GTA San Andreas Stories, on PC, Xbox 360 and PS3, a step up from GTA San Andreas in most departments and also in terms of graphics, but still below GTA IV, which in this reality would've been released in 2009-2010.

[Shadowfennekin]

On 4/18/2022 at 4:08 PM, universetwisters said:

 

Franklin literally showed up like 9 years later in GTA Online

And Lamar, Michael and Trevor were all confirmed to be alive and in Los Santos at the end of 2021.

They'd never make C canon, face it.

 

I hope they come out and say "Roman surviving is canon" someday. I've never played Revenge cause it felt out of character, plus... bros before hos, especially hos that don't put out

[drcherrybomb]

Toni DID NOT kill CJ.

[Going_To_Aruba_01]

Toni blowing up Fort Staunton was the 3D Universe GTA equivalent to 9/11 which in turn led to the economic decline and inflation in GTA III leading to the corrupt CIA pushing SPANK in conjunction with the cartel and explains why the first half of the 3D universe timeline (VCS, VC, SA and the first half of LCS) is relatively bright and cheerful compared to the dark dreary terrifying sh*thole of a second half (end of LCS, GTA III, Manhunt 1&2). To put a long story short Toni crippled the economy leading to Liberty City becoming the dank polluted kip it was always destined to be and common thugs over in Carcer having to participate in snuff films for money.

[drcherrybomb]

-I like to think that the hitman that were butchered by Tommy were, not Leone or Sindacco, but Forelli members. This is to fit even further with Sonny's betrayal.

-After the events of GTA III, the Yakuza found out that Claude was in fact, the person behind Kenji Kasen's death. His fate? Probably dead meat or flee'd away from Liberty City considering all gangs (except for the Jacks, they didn't really have actual enemies apart from the Nines anyway) are after him now.

-The made man (Yes, a made man, a f###ing Italian mobster from a powerful Italian organization, nothing related to CJ at all) Toni killed was part of the Sicilian Mafia.

-Canonically, it is Victor who died during the ambush. But since this doesn't make any logical sense at all, seeing as he kept having moral objections towards drugs in VCS, I consider that is Pete who died, and not Vic. Lance thought he could heal Pete with coke and weed (credits to @Jeansowaty for the joke), causing Pete to unintentionally get into the drugs game.

 

[roo_fus]

Roman's cab business is constantly in jeopardy due to his compulsive gambling and only appears to be successful because Niko is always bailing him out behind the scenes with his crime money. This is why Niko keeps whinging about "I HAVE TO KEEL I NEED THE MAHNEY" despite having a luxury apartment, several sportcars, and $100000 cash sitting around.