What are some of your headcanons?

[The Journey]

I have one about Lamar stealing that final car for Devin Weston in GTA V. Originally it was supposed to be Franklin, and he stole it from none other than Brucie from GTA IV. 

 

So IMO it was the same circumstances but with Lamar, who stole it from Brucie while he was distracted by Lifeinvader.

[GhettoJesus]

Mine is Rosenberg never being sent to rehab. I always liked to imagine that Tommy and Ken continue a fruitful business relationship in Vice City and they live happily ever after.

Edited April 19, 2021 by GhettoJesus

[String]

GTA V is not canon

 

sorry couldn't resist  

 

I think the law agencies came down really hard on Vic Vances drug empire post VCS and there ended up being a huge conflict between the law and the Vance crime family which resulted in the Vance crime family taking heavy losses forcing Vic and Lance to flee Vice City for a time which resulted in all his empire assets getting seized and razed to the ground so that's why they don't exist during the events of GTA Vice City

 

They do come back few months before the deal with the Forellis and are looking to reestablish themselves in Vice City so that's why in the beginning of VC Ken Rosenberg tells Tommy 'the suppliers are very keen to start a business relationship' with them. 

[universetwisters]

My headcanon is that V is canon and Johnny is dead.

 

 

 

[Americana]

In Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, just after the last cutscene, FBI agents arrive and arrest everyone in the Johnson's House.

 

CJ was lucky to get out just in time.

[ViceKing]

Mine headcannon is 

Toni Cipriani whacked Cj after end of the game.

[The Journey]

3 hours ago, ViceKing said:

Mine headcannon is 

Toni Cipriani whacked Cj after end of the game.

I've been thinking this, too. No way the mob just forgets about the man who pretty much single-handedly destroyed their operations in Las Venturas.

 

Sure, Sal talks about Toni whacking a "made man", but what if it was not only a made man in Liberty City, but also several other loose ends around the country, and that's why he had to flee for four years?

 

[B Dawg]

Gta v is non canon 

[Lord Criminal]

Dimitri Rascalov had an alliance with Kenny Petrovic, and the latter wanted the hired gun (Niko) who killed his son dead even after killing Faustin.

 

This isn't confirmed in the game, but it perfectly explains Dimitri's rise in power so quickly (sided by his alliance with Bulgarin). Moreover, Dimitri already had some ties with Petrovic prior to Faustin's death (through his cousin, who was the girlfriend of Petrovic's son, Lenny). Not to mention that a ruthless mob boss wouldn't just agree to spare the hired gun who killed his son had he killed the one who ordered the murder.

[The Journey]

Trevor found out about Brad because he threatened an employee of the FIB who worked for Dave Norton/Steve Haines. After doing all of these heists for them and STILL not having Brad released from Bolingbroke, Trevor went crazy and confronted them on his own offscreen. 

 

They confessed to Trevor about the deal Michael made and how he was supposed to be killed but it ended up being Brad instead. Trevor then goes to Michael's house, acting friendly at first but with the ulterior motive of finding out the truth from HIS mouth. Then the rest is history.

 

This is why Steve and Dave wanted him dead.

 

 

Edited April 19, 2021 by The Journey

[billiejoearmstrong8]

Niko ended up with Alejandra from the internet cafe and they lived happily ever after

[Phil McCrevis]

The topic title make me think of AT-ATs from Star Wars. I don't know why

[Guest]

III - After Catalina's death, the US government sued the Maibatsu car company so hard for banning motorbikes in Liberty City and giving Liberty Tree a $2 million bribe for upholding the bike ban petition in 1998 that it ended up filing for bankruptcy and it's CEO committed suicide, thus bringing bikes, bicycles and tricycles back to the streets of LC and sending a clear message to all other car-manufacturing companies out there. Not to mention, Liberty Tree was forced to shut down after the public learned about Maibatsu bribing the company and did some huge protesting, which caused LCN to start up their own newspaper establishment. Moreover, the mayor decided to bring the ferries back into the city by laying foundation stone for three new ferry stations, one on each island. Oh, and a certain Yakuza dude came out of hiding to snitch to the FBI about Toni Cipriani's involvement in the Fort Staunton bombing, which resulted in his arrest and eventual public execution at the hands of the mayor Miles O'Donovan for committing terrorism in the city. As for Claude, he shot Maria in the head and escaped to Getaway (that tropical place he has a poster of in his Portland safehouse) where he built a little house by the sea and lived a calm, peaceful, clean and legit life.

Edited April 25, 2021 by Staunton Assassin

[LowTierDude]

Vic Vance smoked the best Cohiba cigar in his life right after leaving the Mendez building with Lance and the experience was so otherworldly that it changed his accent completely by 1986.

Edited April 22, 2021 by DownInThePMs

[sefus]

Red dead and GTA are connected

[Guest]

VCS - After the epilogue, Vic hacked some random toaster to transform it into a cloning machine and cloned himself. The clone got partially fried halfway through while coming out because of the aluminum foil and microwave radiation which resulted in major differences in skin tone, voice, clothing, shoes, hairstyle and walkstyle. When the clone was ready, Vic stealthily fled to his native country, the Dominican Republic, and started a legit life in which he lets people use his shiny and overly-reflective bald head like a mirror for $100, leaving the clone and Lance to die.

Edited April 24, 2021 by Staunton Assassin

[Copcaller]

On 4/19/2021 at 11:55 AM, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

Niko ended up with Alejandra from the internet cafe and they lived happily ever after

This also that cjs dad was a black panther and the families were meant to be a neighborhood militia like the Panthers. 

[TheSantader25]

 

V - The Lost MC is completely wiped out and doesn't exist anymore. 

[naughtygawdxci]

CJ and his family exists in the HD universe. Sweet stayed in the hood until he he got sentenced to life due to RICO charges in the early 00s. The Grove Street set loses it's power due to Sweet's imprisonment eventually being overtaken by the Ballas set "Original Covenant Ballas". Kendall and Cesar had a baby girl in 1994, both moved out of San Andreas to escape Cesar's former gang. CJ became a successful business man, owning various business in the West Coast. Still alive currently married to a woman 20 years younger than him, has 4 kids from previous relationships. 

[Guest]

VC - The DEA and VCBI eventually caught up with Tommy not long after he cut his ties with Ken before the events of SA. Due to the lack of Ken's expertise, Tommy landed himself quite a heavy prison term but managed to get it halved through his extreme influence.

 

SA - Toni whacked CJ after the end of SA's events as what Salvatore Leone calls "just another loose end tie-up."

 

LCS - In 1994, Salvatore found out that a made man in the Leone Family is a rat and an average soldato (Vincenzo) is looking to get up in the hierarchy, so he had Toni whack this made man and then shipped him out of town to Palermo in Sicily to lay low for four years.

[.Ryan.]

-In “Revenge” Niko ends up killing Dimitri and Bulgarin in that order, but if you choose “Deal” Bulgarin ends up killing Dimitri himself instead of Pegorino and you still kill Bulgarin.

 

As great as GTA IV’s story is the fact Bulgarin is saved for Luis has always bothered me so this is how I’ve always pictured the endings to be.

 

-James Earl Cash and Claude know eachother.

 

Edited April 25, 2021 by Algonquin Assassin

[watersgta3]

My headcanon? Just about any GTA game's storyline I rewrite. 

[Jeansowaty]

3 hours ago, Algonquin Assassin said:

-In “Revenge” Niko ends up killing Dimitri and Bulgarin in that order, but if you choose “Deal” Bulgarin ends up killing Dimitri himself instead of Pegorino and you still kill Bulgarin.

 

As great as GTA IV’s story is the fact Bulgarin is saved for Luis has always bothered me so this is how I’ve always pictured the endings to be.

 

-James Earl Cash and Claude know eachother.

 

Now that's surprising. Hate to say but I think shovelling in Bulgarin who was just "there" like that, eh, I don't think I would have liked it. Dimitri was perfect imo.

 

On-topic: I think Phil was a rat to Pegorino, not Ray, but Phil wasn't working with the feds, just the opposite, he was working with other mafia families to cover his ass from the cops and to get money and flee.

[The Journey]

6 minutes ago, Jeansowaty said:

Now that's surprising. Hate to say but I think shovelling in Bulgarin who was just "there" like that, eh, I don't think I would have liked it. Dimitri was perfect imo.

 

On-topic: I think Phil was a rat to Pegorino, not Ray, but Phil wasn't working with the feds, just the opposite, he was working with other mafia families to cover his ass from the cops and to get money and flee.

I like this. The fact that the feds were all over the Pegorinos and flipped Anthony could be explained by the fact that the Pegorinos were making such big noise at the time. Not only triggering the Commission - but the feds. You also had the ULP following Nikos every move.

 

Edited April 25, 2021 by The Journey

[Lord Criminal]

3 hours ago, Jeansowaty said:

On-topic: I think Phil was a rat to Pegorino, not Ray, but Phil wasn't working with the feds, just the opposite, he was working with other mafia families to cover his ass from the cops and to get money and flee.

Very interesting, and actually refreshing, as usually when ratting is brought up by characters it's mostly linked with the cops and feds, not too much towards rival gangs.

[String]

There was actually a misunderstanding between Tommy and Ken, Tommy never meant to cut off Ken and he gladly accepted Ken back into the fold post the events of San Andreas.

[The Journey]

3 hours ago, Wayne Kerr said:

There was actually a misunderstanding between Tommy and Ken, Tommy never meant to cut off Ken and he gladly accepted Ken back into the fold post the events of San Andreas.

What if by the time Tommy went and contacted Ken he was too busy managing Mad Dogg with CJ. The irony lol.

[The Journey]

Another headcanon: no f*cking way in hell is Online canon to the events of GTA IV and V!!!

 

Everything about it is just... I mean, in an update meant to take place in 2020 (mentioned in the included radio stations) they had the online character kill O'Neils at the O'Neil Ranch when it was BURNT to the ground by Trevor Philips, who later killed them all, in 2013!!!!

 

The GTA Wiki tried to justify it on the Ranch's page by saying "it was repaired", yeah, no way is that sh*t getting repaired... And the brothers were literally all killed, all of them!

 

Yeah, no f*cking way it's canon lol. This confirms it for me 100%.

Edited April 26, 2021 by The Journey

[String]

9 minutes ago, The Journey said:

What if by the time Tommy went and contacted Ken he was too busy managing Mad Dogg with CJ. The irony lol. 

Certainly possible lol, would be quite the sad yet funny end to their story and CJ was always nicer to Ken than Tommy too but I'll just have it that CJ did a good enough job as Madd Doggs manager and Ken felt his place was at Vice by Tommy's side as he was more involved in Tommy's journey so things worked out for everybody! 

Edited April 26, 2021 by Wayne Kerr
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[Guest]

On 4/25/2021 at 6:35 PM, Algonquin Assassin said:

-In “Revenge” Niko ends up killing Dimitri and Bulgarin in that order, but if you choose “Deal” Bulgarin ends up killing Dimitri himself instead of Pegorino and you still kill Bulgarin.

 

As great as GTA IV’s story is the fact Bulgarin is saved for Luis has always bothered me so this is how I’ve always pictured the endings to be.

 

-James Earl Cash and Claude know eachother.

 

Luis: "Oye, where did my antagonist go?"

 

15 hours ago, Wayne Kerr said:

There was actually a misunderstanding between Tommy and Ken, Tommy never meant to cut off Ken and he gladly accepted Ken back into the fold post the events of San Andreas.

I doubt if Ken would have any usefulness to Tommy, considering how he was disbarred from the law (see SA: The Introduction) and became a producer for Madd Dogg's work.

Edited April 26, 2021 by Staunton Assassin