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Why Does Catalina Even Shoot Claude To Begin With?


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This is the most undiscussed major plot point in the entire GTA franchise, was there any reason for Catalina to kill Claude? how did Claude survive? what happened between the events of him getting shot and being taken to prison?

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36 minutes ago, Smash Bandicoot said:

was there any reason for Catalina to kill Claude?

You know Catalina is the 3D version of Dimitri; she backstabs almost everybody she gets associated with. But she at least has a reason; she has no use for him.

 

 

 

36 minutes ago, Smash Bandicoot said:

what happened between the events of him getting shot and being taken to prison?

The police arrested him? Self-explanatory.

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1 minute ago, OH76 said:

You know Catalina is the HD version of Dimitri; she backstabs almost everybody she gets associated with. But she at least has a reason; she has no use for him.

Atleast Dimitri had a reason to betray you, which was Bulgarin. also it seems really f*cking odd for Catalina to "have no more use for Claude" even though they spent an entire decade together.

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The police arrested him? Self-explanatory.

What I was trying to ask is how did he recover?

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6 minutes ago, Smash Bandicoot said:

Atleast Dimitri had a reason to betray you, which was Bulgarin. also it seems really f*cking odd for Catalina to "have no more use for Claude" even though they spent an entire decade together.

She had a plan where she would be using Claude for nine years where they rob every bank from SA to LC and when they reach liberty city she would kill him and take his cut and do the same with Miguel 

She's like the Margret Albert of GTA

7 minutes ago, Smash Bandicoot said:

What I was trying to ask is how did he recover?

He's a strong boi

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1 minute ago, DR:BUSTA said:

She had a plan where she would be using Claude for nine years where they rob every bank from SA to LC and when they reach liberty city she would kill him and take his cut and do the same with Miguel 

She's like the Margret Albert of GTA

I can get that, but nine years? really?

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1 minute ago, Smash Bandicoot said:

I can get that, but nine years? really?

Nine years of patience = Dozens of money

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1 minute ago, DR:BUSTA said:

Nine years of patience = Dozens of money

-Catalina

-Patience

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1 minute ago, Smash Bandicoot said:

-Catalina

-Patience

Claude isn't like CJ he would just do what he's told so she won't have any problem with him unlike CJ

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1 minute ago, DR:BUSTA said:

Claude isn't like CJ he would just do what he's told so she won't have any problem with him unlike CJ

Even though CJ did everything he was told.

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Just now, DeltaV20 said:

what can you expect from a 2001's game's Story ? a cheap betrayal ? 

This is why GTA 3 is the GTA the most needing of a remake/reimagining, it's extremely outdated and f*cked up by today's standards.

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5 minutes ago, Smash Bandicoot said:

This is why GTA 3 is the GTA the most needing of a remake/reimagining

Why? The story is the most consistent and coherent, and I don't find much to be rewritten.

 

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10 minutes ago, Smash Bandicoot said:

Even though CJ did everything he was told.

CJ was complaining sometimes and was working with her just to get the money and didn't give a f*ck about her that made her hate him unlike Claude who can't complain even if he wanted to

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9 minutes ago, OH76 said:

Why? The story is the most consistent and coherent, and I don't find much to be rewritten.

 

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4 hours ago, Smash Bandicoot said:

Even though CJ did everything he was told.

 

This might be the only good post you've ever made. CJ is the most obedient little simp in the whole series. 

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2 minutes ago, KGBeast said:

 

This might be the only good post you've ever made. CJ is the most obedient little simp in the whole series. 

Niko is a bigger simp for working for Elizabeta Torres even though she's a lesbian

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Catalina put stuff up CJ's ass and then nice personed him with Claude. I can see why some of you guys look up to him.

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2 hours ago, KGBeast said:

Catalina put stuff up CJ's ass and then nice personed him with Claude. I can see why some of you guys look up to him.

love your status dude

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12 hours ago, Smash Bandicoot said:

I can get that, but nine years? really?

That part of the plot wasn't written until San Andreas. You can only look at Claude and Catalina from III's perspective. In the game nothing is said about the duration of their partnership. It could have been a few months.

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Plot hole? She literally explains it - "Sorry, babe, I'm an ambitious girl, and you... You're just small time". Clearly she has bigger plans (SPANK) and has no use for Claude anymore.

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16 hours ago, Smash Bandicoot said:

This is the most undiscussed major plot point in the entire GTA franchise, was there any reason for Catalina to kill Claude? how did Claude survive? what happened between the events of him getting shot and being taken to prison?

Well, I think the only reason that Catalina decided to shoot Claude was that she was treating him just as a business partner besides having some love feelings, that were short-lived. All she really wanted was to rob, kill and make big bucks out of it. She betrayed Claude, then Miguel too. She was a bad chiquita, who treated people objectively in other words. And about events after Betrayal and before Jailbreak, well, all we know is that Claude was taken to the convoy with 8-Ball and Oriental Gentleman, that's about it.

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Dude, Catalina shooting Claude is the exact reason why the whole game happens. It's Catalina's character to backstab just about anyone, regardless of how loyal he/she is. Not to mention she left CJ earlier, so Claude kinda had it coming too. The reason why Catalina shot Claude is that Miguel and his gang were making huge profits off their new SPANK product and Catalina saw more money in the opportunity than doing small-time bank robberies with some silent dude, so it's waaay obvious why she did it.

 

As for what happened to Claude after he got shot, I think he got sent to a hospital and then to a police station where he stayed until the courts decided to give him a 10-year prison term. And in that time, he got introduced to 8-Ball and the Old Oriental Gentleman.

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2 minutes ago, Smash Bandicoot said:

@Staunton Assassin

It's in character for Catalina to backstab someone, what's not is her staying with said person for 9 whole years, it makes 0 sense.

That's because she couldn't find anyone better than him until she came to Liberty City, where she met Miguel and everything. Take CJ for example, she kept up with him but as soon as she found Claude, she left CJ.

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2 hours ago, Smash Bandicoot said:

@Staunton Assassin

It's in character for Catalina to backstab someone, what's not is her staying with said person for 9 whole years, it makes 0 sense.

Quoting myself because I refuse to believe that you aren't seeing this.

 

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That part of the plot wasn't written until San Andreas. You can only look at Claude and Catalina from III's perspective. In the game nothing is said about the duration of their partnership. It could have been a few months.

 

And even if we consider that plot that doesn't mean Catalina can't backstab Claude. Maybe she thought Claude wasn't cut out for the drug business. Maybe she started liking Miguel more and they decided Claude is unnecessary.  It is entirely possible for someone to betray people with whom they have had years if not decades of relationship. There are characters throughout the whole franchise who betray long-time friends. Smoke, Dmitri, Sonny. The list goes on.

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19 hours ago, OH76 said:

Why? The story is the most consistent and coherent, and I don't find much to be rewritten.

 

Agreed. I’d say that GTA III, IV, TLAD, TBOGT, and even CTW all have the most coherent and consistent storylines of all GTA games. I don’t find much to be rewritten about any of them honestly. Must be an NYC GTA game thing. With the exception of LCS of course. That one is in need of a rewrite alongside VC, VCS, SA, and V.

2 hours ago, Smash Bandicoot said:

@Staunton Assassin

It's in character for Catalina to backstab someone, what's not is her staying with said person for 9 whole years, it makes 0 sense.

Who knows? Maybe Claude is a bigger simp than what he is given credit for. I also am in agreement about Niko Bellic, Johnny Klebitz, Luis Fernando Lopez, and CJ being the series’s biggest simps. I really don’t say it as a bad thing at all though. Arthur Morgan and John Marston from the RDR games are kinda the same way too. It just kinda shows that they’re criminals who still have a lot of respect for women. Plus, admittedly I’m quite the simp myself IRL. So are a lot of my real life friends. 😛

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