GTA 6 Speculation & Discussion [Part 5.69]

[WanteD1]

12 minutes ago, CoryLVV said:

 

They delay PC release to prevent pirating of the game, and people who bought it on console might go back and buy it on steam after a year. They'll most likely stick to the same PC release window unless they implement some really good anti-pirating measures. 

Dude pirating on consoles is possible too! RDR2 wasn't cracked day1, I think it took a few months... + 3 Play station users can play with 1 digital copy of a game!  + if a developer gives a good product and respect people, people will buy their game! those who usually pirate games they will pirate that game no matter if it comes day1 or 2 years later!!!!!

It's simple....CDRP respected PC users and they put their game on steam available for wish list and pre order for a long time!! even their game was DRM_FREE!!! it sold very very well and it had more than 1 million players after launch on steam!! 



 

Edited February 3, 2022 by WanteD1

[Vice Cit]

9 minutes ago, WanteD1 said:

Dude pirating on consoles is possible too! RDR2 wasn't cracked day1, I think it took a few months... + 3 Play station users can play with 1 digital copy of a game!  + if a developer gives a good product and respect people, people will buy their game! those who usually pirate games they will pirate that game no matter if it comes day1 or 2 years later!!!!!

It's simple....CDRP respected PC users and they put their game on steam available for wish list and pre order for a long time!! even their game was DRM_FREE!!! it sold very very well and it had more than 1 million players after launch on steam!! 



 

 

Cyberpunk 2077 was pirated within a week of release. Pirating on console is a lot more difficult and riskier than pirating on PC. R* doesn't need to worry about sales, GTA5 is the second best selling game of all time, GTA6 is likely to be the first after a few years.

 

Edit: It did take almost a year for RDR2 to be cracked after releasing on PC, so R* has definitely improved their anti-piracy measures. But it's still unlikely we'll get GTA6 on PC before a year after console release.

Edited February 3, 2022 by CoryLVV

[Kris194]

5 hours ago, Orthur said:

And if it's broken at launch, good luck explaining that to the general audience who already either think R* isn't working on VI because of GTA Online or that they've had 10+ years to work on the perfect sequel.

Well, they "had" but not in a way most people think. RDRII was in preproduction for 3 - 4 years before development really took off.

[Kerminator369]

1 hour ago, BloxedRetro said:

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Dimitri Survived

and moved to Vice City it seems.

Deal ending was canon 

[Donald Lov]

5 hours ago, Orthur said:

 At least Naughty Dog doesn't seem to be rushing out their projects.

 

 

They certainly did with their last one. It's just that they weren't afraid to use the very effective technique of labor exploitation instead of putting out an unfinished product.

[geniusn8]

2 hours ago, GRANDHEIST said:

Hopefully that guy doesn't mistreat his employees anymore

 

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Ehh tbh LA Noire did have as good writing and story as Dan's games have. I do enjoy Dan's stories more though. 

[Vice Cit]

5's writing wasn't amazing so maybe new writers will be good.

[geniusn8]

2 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

VGD are considered a R* "sister studio" I think, and I believe they're in the same building as Take-Two's Sydney branch, but they have their own hiring process and so on. I could see them being fully bought after San Andreas VR.

Does that mean R* is gonna have a permanent business in VR too now? 

[BloxedRetro]

57 minutes ago, Vice Cit said:

5's writing wasn't amazing so maybe new writers will be good.

Hopefully they find people who are able to stand on the same level as Dan Houser. A story as dark as VCS but not as dark as IV would be great for 6 imo.

[Paper Mario]

10 minutes ago, BloxedRetro said:

Hopefully they find people who are able to stand on the same level as Dan Houser. A story as dark as VCS but not as dark as IV would be great for 6 imo.

what's so dark about 4's story? you're just a russian guy that was in the navy, was it the navy? and was looking for this asshole "friend" that betrayed everyone. and it's just niko cleaning the streets from these power hungry idiots that live in the big city.

the overall theme is of course darker than most gta games, but i wouldn't say it was too dark. hope the next gta is much like that or even more darker. and a bit more realistic in the sense of how the government is involved. gta 5 was so dumb in that regard...

[Zello]

Just now, Doodling Hitman said:

what's so dark about 4's story? you're just a russian guy that was in the navy, was it the navy? and was looking for this asshole "friend" that betrayed everyone. and it's just niko cleaning the streets from these power hungry idiots that live in the big city.

the overall theme is of course darker than most gta games, but i wouldn't say it was too dark. hope the next gta is much like that or even more darker. and a bit more realistic in the sense of how the government is involved. gta 5 was so dumb in that regard...

Niko wasn’t Russian

[Vice Cit]

I don't think Dan leaving is as big of a deal as people make it out to be. I'm sure R* has some of the best writers money can buy. 

[BloxedRetro]

1 minute ago, Doodling Hitman said:

what's so dark about 4's story? you're just a russian guy that was in the navy, was it the navy? and was looking for this asshole "friend" that betrayed everyone. and it's just niko cleaning the streets from these power hungry idiots that live in the big city.

the overall theme is of course darker than most gta games, but i wouldn't say it was too dark. hope the next gta is much like that or even more darker. and a bit more realistic in the sense of how the government is involved. gta 5 was so dumb in that regard...

Spoiler

The endings. Both involve people close to him dying, he had a village of his closest friends brutally murdered for $1000, he just barely survived the Navy and when he came back, he was blamed for everything and owed debt to some guy because of it, he has PTSD, he had his Cousin's business and apartment both burnt down because of some psychotic mob boss, his cousin is kidnapped and beaten simply due to the affiliation, when he finally found a gang that he could be in, he had to kill somebody who he didn't dislike and wanted to get out of the criminal life but as he did, he had to make a deal with the crazed mob boss who burnt down his house and his cousin's business, and kidnapped his cousin. If he makes the deal, he just stabs him in the back again and kills his Cousin, his only family in the city, and once he gets revenge, his girlfriend leaves him. If he gets revenge instead of making the deal, the Mafia boss you had worked with and not found too bad kills your girlfriend in anger.

 

Basically his life is full of sh*t, and it keeps coming back to bite him while he is simply trying to live a new life in America / Liberty City.

Just now, Vice Cit said:

I don't think Dan leaving is as big of a deal as people make it out to be. I'm sure R* has some of the best writers money can buy. 

Yeah however the loss of Dan will hurt. He was the main writter, and thus the stories for the next games may vary to the usual style. It'll still be good due to keeping the team as a whole, but it'll be very different due to the lack of Dan, and his style of direction.

[Spider-Vice]

2 minutes ago, Vice Cit said:

I don't think Dan leaving is as big of a deal as people make it out to be. I'm sure R* has some of the best writers money can buy. 

Not to mention Dan wasn't the only writer. I'm pretty sure Rupert Humphries for example is still at R*. No one is truly irreplaceable and some fresh blood, if that were the case, might sometimes be better than not . We don't even know if Dan still isn't doing gigs for R* (just not on an official position, not to mention his relationship with Sam seemed good) or if that the base VI story isn't written already.

[Vice Cit]

Just now, Spider-Vice said:

Not to mention Dan wasn't the only writer. I'm pretty sure Rupert Humphries for example is still at R*. No one is truly irreplaceable and some fresh blood, if that were the case, might sometimes be better than not . We don't even know if Dan still isn't doing gigs for R* (just not on an official position, not to mention his relationship with Sam seemed good) or if that the base VI story isn't written already.

 

The story was most likely at least outlined between 2014- 2016 imo. But I agree that some new blood could revive the story telling in GTA.

[Gentlebreeze]

GTA VI should definitely be darker or honest in terms of why and how cocaine benefited the governments dealing with it. 
 

and the Cuba missile crisis, hurricanes, immigration, mosquitoes, etc.

Edited February 3, 2022 by Gentlebreeze

[Len Lfc]

16 minutes ago, Gentlebreeze said:

GTA VI should definitely be darker or honest in terms of why and how cocaine benefited the governments dealing with it. 
 

and the Cuba missile crisis, hurricanes, immigration, mosquitoes, etc.

The GTA VI antagonist:

[Thomas Cavendish]

3 hours ago, WanteD1 said:

those who usually pirate games they will pirate that game no matter if it comes day1 or 2 years later!!!!!

it is not like this.
The pirate world doesn't rely only on if the product is good or not.
Your product is good, there will be no pirate. Your product is not good, there will be pirate.
if you offer the pirate option day 1, you are f*cked. They know this.

[Kerminator369]

28 minutes ago, Vice Cit said:

I don't think Dan leaving is as big of a deal as people make it out to be. I'm sure R* has some of the best writers money can buy. 

You can’t buy talent. People fell in love with GTAs writing and Dan houser has huge part to play in that. Downplaying the departure of the cofounder and lead writer of rockstar games is funny af

[Badman_]

7 minutes ago, Kerminator369 said:

You can’t buy talent. People fell in love with GTAs writing and Dan houser has huge part to play in that. Downplaying the departure of the cofounder and lead writer of rockstar games is funny af

 

Finally someone sensible. Downplaying the departure of Dan Houser is like saying The Rolling Stones would be fine without Mick Jagger because there are a hundred other singers just as talented as he is. It is not that simple.

[Paper Mario]

1 hour ago, Zello said:

Niko wasn’t Russian

he sounds russian, therefor he is  :]

[Vice Cit]

17 minutes ago, Kerminator369 said:

You can’t buy talent. People fell in love with GTAs writing and Dan houser has huge part to play in that. Downplaying the departure of the cofounder and lead writer of rockstar games is funny af

 

You can definitely buy talent. How do you think movies and music are made? By buying the talent to make them. Dan wasn't some all knowing, once in a life time writer.

[Zello]

4 minutes ago, Doodling Hitman said:

he sounds russian, therefor he is  :]

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“I ain’t Russian.” - Niko Bellic 2008

[Kirsty]

The proof will be in the pudding if there is any knock-on effect of Dan leaving. Story, dialogue, radio, all that kind of writing stuff that he'd have been involved with. He could still have had a hand in the foundation of everything before he left, though.

 

Remember the pre-RDR2 days and how many people would insist the game would have a terrible launch without the Benz? There's a ton of veterans still at R*, and in contrast there's a lot of devs where RDR2 was their first game credit as well. 

[BloxedRetro]

11 minutes ago, Vice Cit said:

 

You can definitely buy talent. How do you think movies and music are made? By buying the talent to make them. Dan wasn't some all knowing, once in a life time writer.

Difference is that the Writers make the stuff, or at least present it in a way that makes it great. If they are purchased, chances are the passion isn't there, and that's why, imo, alot of remakes are crap. They are ordered by the executives and a writer is just told "You, do this" and then we get bad remakes by otherwise great writers.

 

When a writer is purchased, it almost always means that they never wanted to be involved with it directly, so they will lack the passion and care to make a compelling story.

[Americana]

I wanted to write something controversial but I have second thoughts.

[Gentlebreeze]

I'm sure even the Benz had a hand in GTA VI; it was probably the last conversation before the success of GTA Online. Remember I think the Benz wanted to cancel GTA Online at one point but I guess they decided to cancel him. 

[Vice Cit]

2 minutes ago, BloxedRetro said:

Difference is that the Writers make the stuff, or at least present it in a way that makes it great. If they are purchased, chances are the passion isn't there, and that's why, imo, alot of remakes are crap. They are ordered by the executives and a writer is just told "You, do this" and then we get bad remakes by otherwise great writers.

 

When a writer is purchased, it almost always means that they never wanted to be involved with it directly, so they will lack the passion and care to make a compelling story.

 

GTA is one of the biggest games of all time, the people hiring writers for those positions are most likely looking for people who have some passion towards the game. Even if they're not a die hard fan they've most likely played it before. Writers aren't gonna work on something for 7-8 years and not feel any passion towards what they're doing. 

1 minute ago, Gentlebreeze said:

I'm sure even the Benz had a hand in GTA VI; it was probably the last conversation before the success of GTA Online. Remember I think the Benz wanted to cancel GTA Online at one point but I guess they decided to cancel him. 

 

In an interview someone linked he sounded like he liked online a lot.

[BloxedRetro]

2 minutes ago, Vice Cit said:

 

GTA is one of the biggest games of all time, the people hiring writers for those positions are most likely looking for people who have some passion towards the game. Even if they're not a die hard fan they've most likely played it before. Writers aren't gonna work on something for 7-8 years and not feel any passion towards what they're doing. 

 

In an interview someone linked he sounded like he liked online a lot.

True, that's a point. It's quite possible to find somebody who is both a fan of GTA and a person with stories to tell, however I still think there may be some things here and there that may be a little bumpy in terms of general direction.

[Vice Cit]

1 minute ago, BloxedRetro said:

True, that's a point. It's quite possible to find somebody who is both a fan of GTA and a person with stories to tell, however I still think there may be some things here and there that may be a little bumpy in terms of general direction.

 

If the story hasn't already been done by Dan before he left, like Spider said maybe some new blood will refresh things and give us something new in terms of telling the story. Dan leaving definitely shook the boat but I don't think we'll feel it.