GTA 6 Speculation & Discussion [Part 5.69]

[Xquic]

1 hour ago, Retro_Causality said:

you think they would rush a GTA 6 announcement to offset the bad from the trilogy remaster

No, they would not. However, they could follow the same pattern they did for GTAV to satisfy investors. Since rumors suggest the release date is 2024/2025, they could announce it later next year. 

[Dourvas]

Just a heads up for everyone here:

A lot of Hendersons early year cod and battlefield tweets turned out to be false...

 

Don't know the specifics but that's the info i am getting from fans of these 2 franchises.

Again i am not a cod/battlefield fan so i can't pinpoint his mistakes.

 

However i heard a couple of people stating the fact that he was wrong so i am going to trust them...

 

Also the Gta iv remaster guy turned out to be a fluke as well. He had one correct COD leak, his source got angry at him for leaking so he started throwing the leak "ball" around hoping i will land somewhere.

 

Dude even posted a fake screenshot.

 

Anyway why should you care?

Maybe the 2025 release rumor is bs after all. 

I personally don't think it is but it might be.

[Zello]

2 minutes ago, Dourvas said:

Just a heads up for everyone here:

A lot of Hendersons early year cod and battlefield tweets turned out to be false...

 

Don't know the specifics but that's the info i am getting from fans of these 2 franchises.

Again i am not a cod/battlefield fan so i can't pinpoint his mistakes.

 

However i heard a couple of people stating the fact that he was wrong so i am going to trust them...

 

Also the Gta iv remaster guy turned out to be a fluke as well. He had one correct COD leak, his source got angry at him for leaking so he started throwing the leak "ball" around hoping i will land somewhere.

 

Dude even posted a fake screenshot.

 

Anyway why should you care?

Maybe the 2025 release rumor is bs after all. 

I personally don't think it is but it might be.

[Xquic]

5 minutes ago, Dourvas said:

Just a heads up for everyone here:

A lot of Hendersons early year cod and battlefield tweets turned out to be false...

 

Don't know the specifics but that's the info i am getting from fans of these 2 franchises.

Again i am not a cod/battlefield fan so i can't pinpoint his mistakes.

 

However i heard a couple of people stating the fact that he was wrong so i am going to trust them...

 

Also the Gta iv remaster guy turned out to be a fluke as well. He had one correct COD leak, his source got angry at him for leaking so he started throwing the leak "ball" around hoping i will land somewhere.

 

Dude even posted a fake screenshot.

 

Anyway why should you care?

Maybe the 2025 release rumor is bs after all. 

I personally don't think it is but it might be.

Jason Schreier confirmed what Tom Henderson said, so 2025 release is not bs after all.

[Dourvas]

5 minutes ago, Xquic said:

Jason Schreier confirmed what Tom Henderson said, so 2025 release is not bs after all.

We he didn't explicitly say 2025.

He just said he can confirm the validity of the info.

What info though? Maybe it was the info about the map or the female protagonist.

Damn broken record mode again  

At this point if we as a forum start developing Gta Vi right now we will probably release it before Rockstars version.

[Middle Class Roadman]

Wow so Sam Housers left Rockstar?

[Kris194]

Once Sam leaves I give up on this company, I saw more than enough companies going to sh*t once their founders left.

Edited November 22, 2021 by Kris194

[BabaFamilias]

You guys are being little bit overdramatic, don't you think? Do you think Sam Houser was the guy who created the art at Rockstar or developed the gameplay? There are still many important and talented people left at Rockstar like Rob Nelson or Aaron Garbut who could easily take over without any changes visible. You may find it hard to believe, but every person in a multi million dollar company is replaceable. 

[VCPR]

33 minutes ago, BabaFamilias said:

There are still many important and talented people left at Rockstar like Rob Nelson or Aaron Garbut who could easily take over without any changes visible. You may find it hard to believe, but every person in a multi million dollar company is replaceable. 

 the thing is:

1. new CEO should be able to push the company in the right direction
2. they should stand up to interference of their parent company

You shouldn't take that for given that will happen

[DeltaV20]

can't really say that Sam left/is leaving / or soon going to , but here's a bit old article 
https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/celebs-tv/grand-theft-auto-red-dead-4973409

[Geisterfaust]

4 hours ago, Retro_Causality said:

but would yall be hyped if Max Payne 4 was R* next game and not GTA 6?

I would love to see that Max Payne franchise is put to sleep, but only because it was so good and logically concluded with the third installment.

[(Vip)Met]

By the way this thread was created on my birthday so this better be it 

[Spider-Vice]

I think Sam going to R* London is more believable than him leaving. R* London IIRC does have at least one of the R* writers and it would make zero sense for Sam to continue wearing R* colours when he appears in recent Circoloco pictures, forming a partnership with them last year, and the R* Instagram account reposting his birthday pics (on Stories) a few weeks ago, if he was just going to leave. Not to mention he did buy a new house in the UK as well. He could just want to take the helm closer to home instead of being in the Big Apple.

 

Plus, this:

3 hours ago, BabaFamilias said:

You guys are being little bit overdramatic, don't you think? Do you think Sam Houser was the guy who created the art at Rockstar or developed the gameplay? There are still many important and talented people left at Rockstar like Rob Nelson or Aaron Garbut who could easily take over without any changes visible.

 

[Retro_Causality]

what is this about Sam leaving as well?

 

source?

[Rm93]

4 minutes ago, Retro_Causality said:

what is this about Sam leaving as well?

 

source?

leaker:

[Len Lfc]

9 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

*Zee in that case  Wonder what he's up to nowadays.

The past 8 years have probably given him an aneurysm, tbh.

[ArthurZussman]

3 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

I think Sam going to R* London is more believable than him leaving. R* London IIRC does have at least one of the R* writers and it would make zero sense for Sam to continue wearing R* colours when he appears in recent Circoloco pictures, forming a partnership with them last year, and the R* Instagram account reposting his birthday pics (on Stories) a few weeks ago, if he was just going to leave. Not to mention he did buy a new house in the UK as well. He could just want to take the helm closer to home instead of being in the Big Apple.

 

Also, isn't possible tha Sam is helping to write the plot for GTA VI? Or he is too busy partying? 

 

2 hours ago, Rm93 said:

leaker:

Is not a "dude truste me" case. As I already said, Ash is a respectable old member of these forums, and he wouldn't talk out of his ass, only if it was misheard information.

Edited November 22, 2021 by ArthurZussman

[Donald Lov]

7 hours ago, BabaFamilias said:

 Do you think Sam Houser was the guy who created the art at Rockstar or developed the gameplay? There are still many important and talented people left at Rockstar like Rob Nelson or Aaron Garbut who could easily take over without any changes visible. You may find it hard to believe, but every person in a multi million dollar company is replaceable. 

Maybe not, but considering things we've heard about the inner workings of the studio, it's Sam who is a paranoid perfectionist that requires everyone to push themselves to the limit. With him out of the company, there would be no guarantee that whoever replaces him will keep the standards as high.

[Len Lfc]

2 hours ago, ArthurZussman said:

Also, isn't possible tha Sam is helping to write the plot for GTA VI? Or he is too busy partying? 

Sam was never a writer. Even with all his ideas and creativeness, he was never credited as a writer. I'd imagine he's doing pretty much the same as he always has in the past.

[Dourvas]

Realistically if he left indeed... When we'll know?

[Len Lfc]

26 minutes ago, Dourvas said:

Realistically if he left indeed... When we'll know?

If he took a sabbatical? Maybe 12 - 15 months after it started?

Same happened with Leslie and Dan, even if they had very different reasoning.

[Jabalous]

Rob Nelson, Aaron Garbut, and maybe other veterans that I cannot recall, are probably the the true creative force at R* in the meantime. Sam Houser matters from a creative point of view, but these figures can still drive the company with no drop in the typical R* quality or production values in my opinion. I personally expect Sam and Aaron to retire after GTA6 at max. An era will definitely come to an end at some point, but it doesn't mean it'd be doomsday for R*. It could actually be the opposite of that! Be a judge only when you try a Houser-less or Garbut-less game. Would the games really be that different? Th experience and culture pass down. Many technical heads (e.g. directors, lead artists/engineers/designers) changed or left since the PS2/PS3/PS4 time and yet the games continued to impress with a consistent quality. There's always someone down the chain to carry the torch, especially in a secretive company as R*.

[Len Lfc]

27 minutes ago, Jabalous said:

Rob Nelson, Aaron Garbut, and maybe other veterans that I cannot recall, are probably the the true creative force at R* in the meantime. Sam Houser matters from a creative point of view, but these figures can still drive the company with no drop in the typical R* quality or production values in my opinion. I personally expect Sam and Aaron to retire after GTA6 at max. An era will definitely come to an end at some point, but it doesn't mean it'd be doomsday for R*. It could actually be the opposite of that! Be a judge only when you try a Houser-less or Garbut-less game. Would the games really be that different? Th experience and culture pass down. Many technical heads (e.g. directors, lead artists/engineers/designers) changed or left since the PS2/PS3/PS4 time and yet the games continued to impress with a consistent quality. There's always someone down the chain to carry the torch, especially in a secretive company as R*.

Same mentality as when Leslie left, going in to RDR2. Sure, at some point you can justifiably have room for concern. But as long as they can keep up the level of quality, I think the standards are already set, and anyone who follows will be working on a set style that's the DNA of Rockstar. Sot of like a master training the apprentice, so to speak. People just know the 'big names', but don't know the smaller ones.

 

That said, it's worth being cautious, all the same.

[Pete4000uk]

18 hours ago, philipg193 said:

It says in the Tweet.

Are you ready to dance?

With the devil, in the pale moonlight?

 

Yep

[Lukas2580]

so... @Mach1bud are you working on any new "trucks"

also @uNi whats the exparation date on your credit (shark) cards?

Edited November 22, 2021 by Lukas2580

[Volatollotalov]

2 hours ago, Len Lfc said:

Same mentality as when Leslie left, going in to RDR2. Sure, at some point you can justifiably have room for concern. But as long as they can keep up the level of quality, I think the standards are already set, and anyone who follows will be working on a set style that's the DNA of Rockstar. Sot of like a master training the apprentice, so to speak. People just know the 'big names', but don't know the smaller ones.

 

That said, it's worth being cautious, all the same.

 

I would agree with you, but maybe not everyone would.

 

"In the entertainment business by the way, if you want a little trick, you can predict the performance of entertainment companies based on the longevity of the senior management team. It's a direct correlation... it's very 'pi r squared', amazingly enough..."

 

Strauss Zelnick, Jefferies Virtual Global Interactive Entertainment Conference, 11-11-21

 

[TKDSnovelist]

On 11/16/2021 at 5:16 AM, Zello said:

Here's the thing though. Crime real crime the stuff that happens on the streets is actually boring it's not like the movies or TV shows where there are explosions every 5 seconds and dudes from the streets are hopping out of jets and helicopters. GTA IV captured that realistic gritty crime tone it was going for very well. I guess it's what you prefer I grew up watching gritty dark crime movies and TV shows and IV gets me close to that.

 

Hell, i want an even darker story, tbh. It just feels odd to me, when you're playing Luis in TBOGT (who seems like a good guy, kinda) killing hordes of police and SWAT (NOOSE) as if they're nothing. It ruins the immersion for me. After you killed your first officer, you should feel like your ass is wanted. Like in "The Getaway", where you're basically hiding out and gotta respect the traffic rules (atleast if cops are nearby). I wish GTA would go into this direction, tbh. 

 

But i understand if the majority of people just want fun, explosions, crazy stories, nuclear submarines and stealth bombers. IV was great, V went into the wrong direction for me, and now it almost feels like Saints Row with their laser weapons and flying bikes. At this point i wouldn't be surprised if GTA VI would be free to play with microtransactions worth $1500, lol.

[Zello]

53 minutes ago, TKDSnovelist said:

 

Hell, i want an even darker story, tbh. It just feels odd to me, when you're playing Luis in TBOGT (who seems like a good guy, kinda) killing hordes of police and SWAT (NOOSE) as if they're nothing. It ruins the immersion for me. After you killed your first officer, you should feel like your ass is wanted. Like in "The Getaway", where you're basically hiding out and gotta respect the traffic rules (atleast if cops are nearby). I wish GTA would go into this direction, tbh.

Woah woah there’s difference between dark tone and boring. Adding realistic traffic laws and whatever adds nothing to a dark story.

[TKDSnovelist]

 

2 minutes ago, Zello said:

Woah woah there’s difference between dark tone and boring. Adding realistic traffic laws and whatever adds nothing to a dark story.

 

You know, boring is subjective... i know many people who loved to play SAMP with this roleplaying stuff, working as if it was a real job. Like hell, it was boring for me, but it was fun for them. This is just my opinion, that is all. And as i said, "realistic" laws if police are nearby. You can still haul ass in The Getaway, as long as you don't do it in front of the cops. Personally i liked it, as it makes you feel less like you can do whatever you want. 

 

By the way, didn't R* hide stuff in other games before? Some GTA V vehicles were seen on pictures in Max Payne 3. Also this:

 

Spoiler

 

On 1/23/2013 at 11:09 PM, rsgtafan said:

Here's a pic that I found on igta5.com

http://www.igta5.com/images/los-santos-in-max-payne-3-l14-cp5.jpg

 

 

 

[Zapper]

54 minutes ago, TKDSnovelist said:

 

Hell, i want an even darker story, tbh. It just feels odd to me, when you're playing Luis in TBOGT (who seems like a good guy, kinda) killing hordes of police and SWAT (NOOSE) as if they're nothing. It ruins the immersion for me. After you killed your first officer, you should feel like your ass is wanted. Like in "The Getaway", where you're basically hiding out and gotta respect the traffic rules (atleast if cops are nearby). I wish GTA would go into this direction, tbh. 

 

But i understand if the majority of people just want fun, explosions, crazy stories, nuclear submarines and stealth bombers. IV was great, V went into the wrong direction for me, and now it almost feels like Saints Row with their laser weapons and flying bikes. At this point i wouldn't be surprised if GTA VI would be free to play with microtransactions worth $1500, lol.

That goes diametrically opposite to the core identity of GTA. GTA was never supposed to be a dark, ultra realistic crime. It was always an over the top satirical parody of America. Even IV, which is the most grounded in the franchise, is incredibly over the top in many, many ways.

 

And after how 3D era fans responded to IV at launch surely Rockstar reconsidered their approach regarding future GTA titles and you can see it in many ways V was a response to IV's detractors but to my utter surprise it was just as bleak as IV thematically but presented in a much much more colorful way that lets them design the gameplay loops closer to the 3D era games. Rockstar made RDR in the meantime which shared many of the same design goals of IV (and is a companion piece in may ways), expanded on it considerably with RDR2 and both were incredibly well received so now it is their pseudo-realistic franchise.

 

Maybe it could've been a possibility if Rockstar were still making smaller scaled GTA games or experimental new IPs, but for the mainline projects, which costs more that $400-500+ million to make and market nowadays, it is just impossible to deviate from the current formula that much. Best thing they can do is to add a Hardcore difficulty mode which could implement those mechanics along with reducing the number of enemies while making them more deadly and smarter. That'd be the better compromise for Rockstar honestly (I strongly believe Casino Heist, Cayo Perico Heist and RDO's new Blood Money Opportunities are the testing grounds for mission design in future Rockstar games).