GTA 6 Speculation & Discussion [Part 5.69]

[OOI]

On 7/10/2021 at 11:55 AM, Len Lfc said:

Again, note; I didn't find this, don't credit me. Just speculating on it with you fine people.

Forgot to ask. Was that the only texture that they found?

 

Also, would they really want to spend resources bringing E&E to PC? Or would they rather finish GTA 6 as soon as possible?

 

2 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

Also the ending of TBOGT. It's Packie in the plane and the rest you can see for yourself. Muted cos copyright.

 

 

 

Wrong timestamp? Also, an oversight, there's no one in the pilot's seat!?

 

 

Edited August 6, 2021 by OOI

[17th]

5 hours ago, Len Lfc said:

I miss the days when a game was announced only 2 or 3 years after the last entry in a series, and it didn't result in this level of hyper analysis and conspiracy theories. Rockstar have made us into disgusting, desperate, tin foil suit wearing crazies.

announce gta6 in 2016 and make us wait for release 8 years?

[Len Lfc]

3 hours ago, OOI said:

Forgot to ask. Was that the only texture that they found?

I think so. But I'm not sure. I wasn't there for all the discussion, I just woke up to that discovery, one morning.

EDIT: At the time, I didn't know their GTAF username. Now I do, so let's ask them about it?

@rollschuh2282

Edited August 7, 2021 by Len Lfc

[Len Lfc]

41 minutes ago, 17th said:

announce gta6 in 2016 and make us wait for release 8 years?

Eh, probably not. BGS did that with TESVI, but knowing about a game officially and still having to wait anyway doesn't really change much.

 

(TESVI was officially announced in 2018, but BGS openly admitted in 2016 "of course we're making it", but that they were making 2 other games first.)

[Spider-Vice]

I think there's more but you would have to go through all of Cayo Perico's assets and that's a huge pain in the ass. Basically there's props in Cayo Perico that have extra texture channels that current GTA V doesn't use in its graphics pipeline, such as "ma" which is "metalness/roughness/AO", something used in more modern material pipelines like the one used in RDR2. Regardless of that find, the overall quality of Cayo Perico, the amount of vegetation, and even the ridiculous resolution of some of the Tuners assets (some posters and small banners are a whopping 2048x2048!) are some more pretty good indicators E&E must be getting an engine upgrade IMO.

[Vice Cit]

@Len Lfc do you have any actual reasoning behind your announcement prediction

[Len Lfc]

Just now, CoryLVV said:

@Len Lfc do you have any actual reasoning behind your announcement prediction

Yes, the speculation thread linked below it. Although my original opinion was 2022, before changing due to new discoveries, at that time. Can be seen in the web.archive version, so it's not me backtracking.

[Vice Cit]

27 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

Yes, the speculation thread linked below it. Although my original opinion was 2022, before changing due to new discoveries, at that time. Can be seen in the web.archive version, so it's not me backtracking.

 

Can you summarize? 

[sefus]

Nobody ever noticed this, but at the end of TBOGT, Luis parachutes next to a sign that says "Visit Los santos", so Rockstar  definitely does put hints and nods to the next games locations, you just have to have a keen eye.

https://files.catbox.moe/gzw9m0.png

[Zello]

3 minutes ago, sefus said:

Nobody ever noticed this, but at the end of TBOGT, Luis parachutes next to a sign that says "Visit Los santos", so Rockstar  definitely does put hints and nods to the next games locations, you just have to have a keen eye.

R* didn't do that man  that was  a fan made edit by GTA series videos.

Edited August 7, 2021 by Zello

[sefus]

1 minute ago, Zello said:

R* didn't do that man  that was  a fan made edit by GTA series videos.

Inb4 mandela effect.

[Len Lfc]

Just now, Zello said:

R* didn't do that man  that was GTA series videos.

Literally the reason I brought it up, too! 

 

6 minutes ago, CoryLVV said:

 

Can you summarize? 

Not really. It's very long and super in depth. I wrote it in February 2019, so over 2 and a half years ago, now.

[Vice Cit]

Just now, Len Lfc said:

Literally the reason I brought it up, too! 

 

Not really. It's very long and super in depth. I wrote it in February 2019, so over 2 and a half years ago, now.

 

Does it take into account E&E + whatever R* is doing for the 20th anniversary?

[Zello]

1 minute ago, Len Lfc said:

Not really. It's very long and super in depth. I wrote it in February 2019, so over 2 and a half years ago, now.

 

This will be Len if it gets announced on Tuesday October 19th 2021 2PM BST 

[Len Lfc]

Just now, Zello said:

 

This will be Len if it gets announced on Tuesday October 19th 2021 2PM BST 

If it happened I'd do a 24 hour livestream playing GTA III in celebration. Then scream victory!

Sadly, seems more likely to be next year.

3 minutes ago, CoryLVV said:

 

Does it take into account E&E + whatever R* is doing for the 20th anniversary?

Like I said, I wrote it over 2 and a half years ago, so no. But I did frequently update it with new information. I didn't think E&E had a huge impact on VI, though. COVID-19 and WFH felt like it had a significantly bigger impact, though. It's changed everything all over the world. Nobody could have predicted that.

[Spider-Vice]

9 minutes ago, sefus said:

Inb4 mandela effect.

Go replay the game if you own it and you'll see that's not there. The only real possible clue was right at the end of the actual credits where Packie's (presumably, based on the story) plane flew onto the horizon and the camera stopped to show a "V" on the ground.

[Zello]

4 hours ago, OOI said:

Wrong timestamp? Also, an oversight, there's no one in the pilot's seat!?

Here you go buddy

 

[Len Lfc]

11 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

The only real possible clue was right at the end of the actual credits where Packie's (presumably, based on the story) plane flew onto the horizon and the camera stopped to show a "V" on the ground.

I'm torn on that. It's not uncommon for runways to have markings like that. So it's definitely not there for that (Besides it was in GTA IV at launch, anyway). But I'd say it's a safe bet it's a happy coincidence that Rockstar played on, using that final shot.

 

I just really hope GTA V E&E does something legitimate to indicate or hint at VI.

[Razed-]

3 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

I think there's more but you would have to go through all of Cayo Perico's assets and that's a huge pain in the ass. Basically there's props in Cayo Perico that have extra texture channels that current GTA V doesn't use in its graphics pipeline, such as "ma" which is "metalness/roughness/AO", something used in more modern material pipelines like the one used in RDR2. Regardless of that find, the overall quality of Cayo Perico, the amount of vegetation, and even the ridiculous resolution of some of the Tuners assets (some posters and small banners are a whopping 2048x2048!) are some more pretty good indicators E&E must be getting an engine upgrade IMO.

 

Rockstar uses the "ma" label for spec maps per RGB channel and the game reads them just fine, so I'd say it's already part of their graphics pipeline. They've slowly been updating shaders with every other new GTAO update for the past year or so. Red channel is for metal materials and Blue / Green is for plastic or painted materials. You can currently use this on any model. I use it in my project too.

Edited August 7, 2021 by Razed-

[Kris194]

5 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

and even the ridiculous resolution of some of the Tuners assets (some posters and small banners are a whopping 2048x2048!) are some more pretty good indicators E&E must be getting an engine upgrade IMO.

RDRII also had 2K textures for some assets like for example posters (at least some of them). It gets completely crazy when you'll realize, that only one generation before you could find 2K textures basically only in x360/ps3 linear games on PC, for example in Max Payne 3.

Edited August 7, 2021 by Kris194

[Gettin up]

GTA will be much bigger than RDR2.

[Rajder]

41 minutes ago, Gettin up said:

GTA will be much bigger than RDR2.

It's already confirmed that it will be a smaller game than RDR II 

[Punkd]

1 hour ago, Rajder said:

It's already confirmed that it will be a smaller game than RDR II 

 

officially even the existence of a "gta-next" is not confirmed

[Spider-Vice]

7 hours ago, Len Lfc said:

I'm torn on that. It's not uncommon for runways to have markings like that. So it's definitely not there for that (Besides it was in GTA IV at launch, anyway)

Well, it's more the way the cutscene was set up, of course the markings would already be there in base GTA IV.  By the time the expansions/EFLC released, GTA V was already in development anyway. It really isn't that far fetched.

 

5 hours ago, Razed- said:

 

Rockstar uses the "ma" label for spec maps per RGB channel and the game reads them just fine, so I'd say it's already part of their graphics pipeline. They've slowly been updating shaders with every other new GTAO update for the past year or so. Red channel is for metal materials and Blue / Green is for plastic or painted materials. You can currently use this on any model. I use it in my project too.

Ahh, interesting, cheers! I could've sworn I saw someone make some texture finds that simply weren't used in GTA V's current unmodded graphics pipeline as other objects didn't have them but most textures in RDR2 did, etc, unless I got the suffix wrong and it wasn't the "_ma" textures. Still, I think there's still signs some of the more recent DLC's are more, let's say, "E&E ready" than previous ones overall, detail and asset-size wise.  

[Kris194]

2 hours ago, Rajder said:

It's already confirmed that it will be a smaller game than RDR II 

Is it?

 

Quote

Strauss Zelnick

 

I'm not sure I entirely follow your question. The development cycles for our core immersive releases are still significant. It takes some time to make, what we hope will be the best titles in the business. And development cycles are not getting shorter for core immersive releases. And I wouldn't necessarily expect them to.

 

[Americana]

Imagine this:

 

There's one character, but we see how he develops as a criminal from 1950's to 2020's. The game is set in three periods: 1950's, 1980's and 2000's.

 

The main menu has three modes, one for each period. You unlock them by playing the game. And then, after you finish the game, you can just choose. That would be something new.

Edited August 7, 2021 by Americana

[seth297]

43 minutes ago, Kris194 said:

Is it?

 

 

in terms of story length yes probably. 

in terms of map rdr 2 size id imagine of florida . 

bear in mind rdr 2 and gta v are basically the same size map wise using a horse makes it feel bigger.

[Kris194]

26 minutes ago, Americana said:

Imagine this:

 

There's one character, but we see how he develops as a criminal from 1950's to 2020's. The game is set in three periods: 1950's, 1980's and 2000's.

 

The main menu has three modes, one for each period. You unlock them by playing the game. And then, after you finish the game, you can just choose. That would be something new.

Kids playing game when action takes place in 2000: Controls are even more "clunky" than in RDRII. I'm also dreaming about something like this but not many people would be able to appreciate it. Look at this topic. Even here you'll find people who don't care about story and that's quite sad. Just give them some shooty, shooty, some cars and they will be happy. Ffs, it's open world game, not Michael Bay movie. Not to mention, that expectations of many players nowadays are flatter than plot of pr0n videos...

Edited August 7, 2021 by Kris194

[Orthur]

30 minutes ago, Americana said:

Imagine this:

 

There's one character, but we see how he develops as a criminal from 1950's to 2020's. The game is set in three periods: 1950's, 1980's and 2000's.

 

The main menu has three modes, one for each period. You unlock them by playing the game. And then, after you finish the game, you can just choose. That would be something new.

Reminds me of The Irishman, absolute masterpiece.

 

It's quite sad we may never get a GTA like that 

[BabaFamilias]

12 minutes ago, Americana said:

Imagine this:

 

There's one character, but we see how he develops as a criminal from 1950's to 2020's. The game is set in three periods: 1950's, 1980's and 2000's.

 

The main menu has three modes, one for each period. You unlock them by playing the game. And then, after you finish the game, you can just choose. That would be something new.

 

They would have to basically develop 3 different games with their each individual licenced music and tone. Rockstar couldn't even add barber shops to GTA IV or Burger Shots/Cluckin' Bells to GTA V. It could work, if the game wasn't an open world sand box game. Rockstar really needs to revive "Agent" and make it a semi open game like Hitman, then the fans would have their 60s-80s nostalgia.