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Not a technical issue but I didn't see another section that this really belonged in otherwise. If there is one, I'll re-post this there instead.

 

The short question is: are there any reliable ways as a solo player on PC to make millions of dollars relatively easily/quickly?

 

Longer explanation and question:

I've played GTA O casually since a little while after release. Copied my characters from PS3 to PS4 as I could borrow one (never owned a PS4, still don't) when more updates came to the enhanced version.

On the PS4 I built up a decent collection for my level (range) 300-400 main character with a full set of properties and vehicles, costing many millions together. My latest injection of money came in the form of the profits of ten large full CEO warehouses' stock (two characters, one account) sold at once during a double payout event and last time I checked after spending a bunch more I had around 75 million left.

 

Then I moved to PC as that became an option for me and I could play with a (at the time active) friend. That's when I found out character migration/transfer/copy/howeveryouwannacallit from PS4 to PC was closed long before and I had to start from scratch.

So while I did do that and I now have a little money, some simple cars and an arcade which I used to run the Casino heist a couple times, it's barely a fraction of what I own on PS4. Playing alone again my experience has soured somewhat since aforementioned PS4 is no longer available to me and because Rockstar will never enable transfers again. To me, PC was going to be the "end station" platform.

 

Now it seems that when it comes to the experience of having all my stuff and casually enjoying the game as a rich collector, my options appear to be either forgetting about it, hoping that they'll enable transfers so I can move to PS5 (no real interest in shelling out for that with another copy of the game) or finding a way to make good money on PC so I can try to catch up to where I was before.

 

Thoughts on the latter and clear answers for the first question are super welcome.

I wouldn't mind running business stuff solo again for example but don't know of any way to make your public session "safe" like you can on the PS4 with the MTU setting. Nor do I know if the new heist can bring in a lot of money for someone playing alone.

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Cayo Perico heist is an excellent way of making money on your own. You can do it entirely in an invite only session and it makes having/operating any of the businesses obsolete.

 

If you do want to dabble in the business side of the game, this is how you can 'make' an empty public session:

 

 

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Interesting! I think I heard something about the suspending thing before but never saw it done. Am I right to assume that instead of making it (near) impossible for others to connect to you, it "just" clears the session?

The former would be amazing but the latter should work just fine to do right before sales and things. If I decide to do that, ofcourse. Considering the Cayo heist you mentioned.

 

I'll try the process thing and look out for the next sub sale, for sure.

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I still use the old Codeswine app to get (and keep) a solo-public lobby myself. It sometimes causes connection instability though. 

CodeSwine GTA5Online-Private_Public_Lobby

 

The suspend-process method works reliably, but leaves the opportunity for someone (and consequently, their friends, and their friends' friends) to join your 'private' lobby without permission after a time. 

 

I was once nuked out of nowhere during a sale when I didn't notice that someone had appeared in my suspend-processed-lobby! The frustration of losing ~$1.4M from the nightclub sale only came to me a few minutes after I'd clambered down from my ceiling-induced surprise. 

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Cayo all the way. I've helped a few people get off the ground with that advice. Earn 2.2m buy the sub. Struggle through a few preps the 1st time. Do heist. Buy sparrow and rockets on it. Breeze through next lot of preps, repeat. Profit? The first 2.2m isn't a easy task if you don't have a friend but it's far from hard. 

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I agree with everyone here Cayo must be the most profitable way to earn cash solo, by some margin.

 

To get some cash to buy the submarine you can get reasonable payouts on what ever Adversary mode is playing double or triple, I have earned up to 250k per match before depending on the game mode. Also it does not cost you anything for things like Ammo which you have to pay for in freemode.

it is amazing how quickly the money racks up. I think it is Hunting Pack modes this week which can be a giggle.

 

Depending on what time you play you could even join me on Cayo, Casino, Doomsday or OG heists to help you start to earn if you like.

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Taking note of all things suggested so far.

 

Also a random sort-of related question. While I'm still not really planning on picking up a PS5 myself I am curious; do PS5 players of GTA O have to transfer their characters/start over or is there no difference between the account data of the PS4/5?

Heard it was backwards compatible and that just made me wonder.

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This is purely a guess, so take it with a grain of salt.

If you are running the PS4 version of the game on the PS5 using the same PS account then I pretty sure the progress will carry over.

Not sure if it will be the case when they release the upgrade/enhanced version but I do not see why not.

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This is purely a guess, so take it with a grain of salt.

If you are running the PS4 version of the game on the PS5 using the same PS account then I pretty sure the progress will carry over.

Not sure if it will be the case when they release the upgrade/enhanced version but I do not see why not.

 

 

That's my guess too, though I am unaware of yet another version coming out for PS5.

 

EDIT: I just went to the social club to at least remind myself of what I own in the vehicle department and apparently I can only see up to 10 vehicles listed here.

Don't suppose that the smartphone app of the social club can show you what you have in all properties?

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One last thing to mention, there still is a chance that they will allow you to transfer your PS4 account to PC when E&E releases, because bottom line they want as much players as possible, so it would make sense for them to allow that transfer, hell maybe even from the generation before (provided you didn't transfer that already) because in the end returning players means more players.

 

On 4/14/2021 at 2:55 PM, BlackMilk said:

EDIT: I just went to the social club to at least remind myself of what I own in the vehicle department and apparently I can only see up to 10 vehicles listed here.

Don't suppose that the smartphone app of the social club can show you what you have in all properties?

 

Nah it only shows the last 10 used on both of those.

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Thanks for that info, saves me the time of dealing with smartphone apps. And yeah I don't see why they stopped transfers in the first place. Or rather, I'm aware of the reason given by them (allegedly as I've only read it from other users) but it seems silly with the dangers of public sessions in PC that I've also read about for years. Surely it's just as easy (if not easier) for PC cheaters to make themselves or others rich?

 

If I had known in advance that I'd lose access to the platform I played the enhanced version on the most and built up my characters little "empire" and that transfers would stop to the PC, I would've gotten the PC version and done it even before I was able to properly run the game on my computer. But like I said, I missed the boat and due to circumstances there's many hours of grinding (and its rewards) locked away for me now and it sucks.

 

I don't know what this E&E is that you mentioned, suicidal banana? Something enhanced? I'll keep an eye out for it just in case. Also don't remember if the transfer process is done from the starting point (platform), the destination or on the social club..

It's been years since I copied my PS3 characters to PS4. Will look it up.

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1 hour ago, BlackMilk said:

Thanks for that info

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I don't know what this E&E is that you mentioned

 

No worries obviously

 

And the E&E thing is the upcoming 'expanded & enhanced' (or is it the other way around?) version that's essentially the re-re-release of GTA:Online, thats going to happen in a few months for PS5 and whatever they call the latest xbawks (and possibly an upgrade for PC too?) By now a lot of people seem to think it will be GTA:O in the RDR2 engine, but it could also just be a slightly updated GTA5 engine (anti cheat for PC please and thank you?!) & it can even just be them bringing PC graphics to the new consoles and nothing else (wich would suck) We dont really know much about it besides the fact that a lot of people were not amused when they dropped the below trailer a few months ago on the playstation and rockstar youtube channels.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P20ASB1MdnI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foUaOCzfIRU

 

R* havent said anything since that 'new' trailer, its actually about time for them to start dropping teasers or anything of that nature. Considering they do "listen to the community" a lot more then most people here seem to think, that backlash will most likely mean that they are working on some sort of engine upgrade for E&E now if that wasn't the case already, oh and that trailer was like right smack bang in the middle of covid times, so theres a chance its been delayed.

 

1 hour ago, BlackMilk said:

Also don't remember if the transfer process is done from the starting point (platform), the destination or on the social club..

 

You do it at the destination but key point is that you log into the same R* account

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Ah. How nice it would be if you could choose to have an accounts characters be updated across all platforms running the same version. That'd be the dream.

It'd be pretty cool if you could switch from playing with people on one platform to another seamlessly without worrying about having to do things twice because you can't transfer more than once. Merp.

 

One can dream, right.

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11 hours ago, suicidal_banana said:

but it could also just be a slightly updated GTA5 engine (anti cheat for PC please and thank you?!)

 

Please Please Please let this be the case.

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10 hours ago, BlackMilk said:

Ah. How nice it would be if you could choose to have an accounts characters be updated across all platforms running the same version. That'd be the dream.

It'd be pretty cool if you could switch from playing with people on one platform to another seamlessly without worrying about having to do things twice because you can't transfer more than once. Merp.

 

One can dream, right.

 

It would be nice but,

Unfortunatly at the moment the reasoning for not allowing transfers anymore is due to modded money on the Xbox 360, PS3 and PC versions.

I do not see them ever allowing transfer from these platforms unless Rstar can stop the modding online and are able to remove any finances gained from it.

But transfer from PS4 and Xbox 1 should be allowed in my opinion.

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7 hours ago, MechanicMammal said:

I do not see them ever allowing transfer from these platforms unless Rstar can stop the modding online and are able to remove any finances gained from it.

 

Considering even we can get a pretty good idea of if somebody used cheats to get money by looking at their profile on the R* social crap site, im 100% sure R* can see that easily and just go "nope you cant transfer this" or a slightly nicer option (piss off less people) that would be something like "okay we let you have your character, clothes and rank, but nothing else".

 

Combine that with the recent hints towards anti-cheat and im pretty sure there will be character transfers again, from all previous platforms to PC and latest consoles. (remember how lots of core parts of the game broke a few months back? why would that happen? would make a lot of sense if they added some sort of 'administrator script' that double checks mission deliveries etc, wasn't working well at first so lots of false positives/bugs, but seems to work fine now and there's a fair chance they will have a 'more powerful version' for E&E. Bottom-line it really isnt that hard to add anti-cheat to a P2P game since it already has some sort of master servers & considering this is the most profitable GTA and they wanna run it for a few more years, honestly it would be surprising if there was NO anti-cheat)

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Lot of good points you're all making but the problem there seems to be the overwhelming amount of logic. Rockstar has made plenty decisions when it comes to maintaining and updating GTA that (IMHO) aren't exactly logical. Or that would reasonably swing in our favour as the playerbase. But I'm gonna keep an eye on that transfer now!

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13 hours ago, suicidal_banana said:

Bottom-line it really isnt that hard to add anti-cheat to a P2P game since it already has some sort of master servers & considering this is the most profitable GTA and they wanna run it for a few more years,

 

My worry is that it has taken 6 years so far and mod menu's etc are still here, I am not saying it is impossible for this to happen I just have my doubts.

It is almost like a arms race Rstar will find a way to tackle current cheaters, and then the Mod makers will find a new way to bypass this.

 

12 hours ago, BlackMilk said:

Rockstar has made plenty decisions when it comes to maintaining and updating GTA that (IMHO) aren't exactly logical.

 

This is one of the many reasons I still have my doubts :)

 

I can see a once off transfer happening from every platform with a account review process, but a multi platform shared progression or crossplay which BlackMilk wished for (which I think would be brilliant) I do not see happening.

 

 

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13 hours ago, suicidal_banana said:

Considering even we can get a pretty good idea of if somebody used cheats to get money by looking at their profile on the R* social crap site,

 

If you look at my profile it looks really dodgy even tho I have never personally cheated,

Back on the xbox 360 on the first week of online release I did a bounty which paid me about a Billion GTA$.

At the time I did spend some of it on my first apartment and cars to fill it up etc. But quickly realised that it ruined the game for me so I sent a ticket asking for it to be removed.

After a long time Rstar finally removed the cash but left what had been purchased. (I still own the Apartment and cars to this day)

 

My social club says I have earned 1.4 billion I have spent 412 million and I currently have about 20mill saved for something at some point. The only figure that is correct is my current funds.

But I have transfered this account twice now from X360 to Xbone and then to PC just before they cracked down on transfers. So I guess that they can tell when in a situation like this where the player is not actually guilty.

 

(edit) to bring it back on subject of earning cash.

 

BlackMilk, a friend of mine wants to do Criminal Mastermind on OG heists. I have already done it (a few times) but happy to do it again.

If you want to earn over 12 million you can tag along if you like.

 

 

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Making the game with RDR2 engine doesn't mean squat, mod menus exist for RDO. Until they get rid of P2P and use dedicated servers, cheaters are here to stay. 

 

OP, if you need someone to help you out, let me know. I  have never done the Casino Heist but I have one ready to go with all setups completed, lol.  Well, I did one on PS4 back in 19 but don't remember anything about it.

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