Smash Bandicoot Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 I never really got why Dimitri wanted Niko dead, if we go by the idea that he is a pure sadistic psychopath then there's no reason he would be the leader of any mafia suddenly after the death of it's former leader knowing how ruthless and volatile he really is and that he might or is responsible for the death of the former leader. however, if we go by the idea he killed Niko for business reasons, it doesn't make much sense either, I can see the argument that Niko's death is Bulgarin's order, but then here a bag of question: -Are the Russian mafia aware that their current leader literally ordered the death of former leader Faustin and other members of the Bratva? -If so, how in the hell can they trust Dimitri even a slight bit? -What about Bulgarin? what is his whole take on all this? -Is Dimitri even the leader to begin with, or is it Bulgarin? These questions are never fully answered within the storyline, I'd love to hear your stance on this. zyenapz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Busta Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) Bulgarian wants to kill Niko because he believes that he robbed him If Dimitri stayed true to Niko He would be an enemy to Bulgarian who has a lot of connections so he would be the enemy of everyone so he betrayed Niko to survive Edited April 9, 2021 by DR:BUSTA billiejoearmstrong8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
String Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Think Dimitri viewed Niko as a loose end which he wanted to remove especially after the ambush in Russian Revolution went wrong and then Dimitri went ahead and burnt down the Bellic business and residence so he may have feared retaliation by Niko knowing what he is capable of (he took down Faustin and his crew single handedly after all) and looked to take out any threat to his newfound position as a mob boss. That being said even I feel Dimitri goes over the top in trying to hunt down Niko sometimes. I still don't fully understand the need for kidnapping Roman, I mean I get he wanted to lure Niko to finish him but there had been a sense of quiet between Niko and Dimitri in the sense that Niko didn't come after Dimitri after getting flushed out of Broker, he was concentrating on other stuff so I don't see why Dimitri couldn't just be satisfied with that and had to needlessly go after Niko again. Also the deal ending. Dimitri is on top of the world so to speak, Niko may have escaped but he got his cut of the deal and he seems to be satisfied with that and is focusing on Romans wedding and doesnt seem inclined on retaliation, so why send an assassin after him again, couldn't you just leave it at that? Seems funny to me that a mob boss would go so out of his way to target a hitman, sure like I said Niko was no ordinary hitman but that's all the more reason you should not needlessly target him when despite all you've done to him, he isn't coming after you. MrPikmin16 and ROCKSTAR MANIC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Busta Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Wayne Kerr said: I don't see why Dimitri couldn't just be satisfied with that and had to needlessly go after Niko again. Bulgarian is the one who wants Niko so badly I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Dawg Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 On 4/9/2021 at 8:54 AM, DR:BUSTA said: Bulgarian is the one who wants Niko so badly I think Yeah Dimitri is Bulgarin's bitch/lap dog I guess The Tracker, Dr Busta and MrPikmin16 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iiCriminnaaL Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 (edited) On 4/8/2021 at 11:33 PM, Smash Bandicoot said: -Are the Russian mafia aware that their current leader literally ordered the death of former leader Faustin and other members of the Bratva? They are most likely not, but I assume that it wouldn't matter that much for them as long as they still get paid. Most of them anyway, while the closest lieutenants to him would most likely question it depending on how close they are to him. On 4/8/2021 at 11:33 PM, Smash Bandicoot said: -If so, how in the hell can they trust Dimitri even a slight bit? As I mentioned, they're most likely not aware. In case they are, then they will either lose their trust on him or will ask him for a clear justification, and might still watch their backs as long as they're with him as well. On 4/8/2021 at 11:33 PM, Smash Bandicoot said: -What about Bulgarin? what is his whole take on all this? He is one of the main reasons of Dimitri's will of taking Niko out (but most likely not the only one). On 4/8/2021 at 11:33 PM, Smash Bandicoot said: -Is Dimitri even the leader to begin with, or is it Bulgarin? Both are leaders of their own crime organizations. I don't really think that Dimitri works for Bulgarin, but rather with him, even if Bulgarin was somewhat more powerful (at least in the beginning). From what we know, they're friends, and they have common interests. Bulgarin wants Niko dead, and while Dimitri doesn't have to take him out, it's beneficial for him in more than a way. He will establish a powerful partnership (or expand on it), and he will get rid of an assassin that might get in his (and Bulgarin's) way at any time in the future. Edited April 10, 2021 by iiCriminnaaL MrPikmin16 1 My workshop of modifications Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smash Bandicoot Posted April 10, 2021 Author Share Posted April 10, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 11:54 PM, DR:BUSTA said: Bulgarian is the one who wants Niko so badly I think Too bad his character was rushed, he just ends up being a pathetic villain with a pathetic death in an addon due to rushed writing. iiCriminnaaL and The Tracker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) Bulgarin would be a very good antagonist - however, some dude at Rockstar thought that Grand Theft Auto: The Ballad of Gay Tony was a good idea and here we are. Edited April 11, 2021 by Americana ROCKSTAR MANIC, lol232 and iiCriminnaaL 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattineu Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 He woke up one day, and sayed: I WILL KILL THE FIRST PERSON I SEE ON LOVEMEET.NET, then he saw SweetBellic's profile and decided to hunt him. Dr Busta, MrPikmin16 and iiCriminnaaL 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iiCriminnaaL Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) I have a little theory that might also be one of the reasons behind Dimitri's will of taking Niko out: In case he wasn't lying to Niko about the meeting he had with Kenny Petrovic and that the later is aware of Niko's involvement in his son's death, could Petrovic be involved in this as well? After all, it wouldn't make much sense for him to spare the murderer of his own son, even if he was just a hired gun. If this theory was canonically true, then this also creates another motivation for Dimitri to go after Niko: establishing a solid affiliation with Petrovic (in addition to Bulgarin already), which makes even more sense seeing as how powerful Dimitri and his syndicate became eventually. Edited April 12, 2021 by iiCriminnaaL billiejoearmstrong8, Algonquin Assassin, String and 1 other 4 My workshop of modifications Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lol232 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) Dimitri was a rat, he ratted out Faustin for power, then proceeded to rat out Niko in order to gain trust (or whatever) from Bulgarin by ratting him out. Bulgarian believed he robbed him and he went after anyone who would do such a thing to him. When he failed to kill Niko after the ambush, he was definitely scared of Niko after seeing what he was capable of (taking down Faustin and his crew single handedly, surviving the ambush), so he burned his sh*t and tried to lure him by kidnapping Roman. He wanted to cut loose ends because he was aware that Niko would come after him eventually. Which happens if you take revenge. And if you take deal, he double crosses you, steals your heroin and leaves Niko in a situation where he'd know Niko would fight for money, e.g. another chance to take him down without doing anything himself. Then that fails and then he just hires a guy to come to the wedding and kill Niko and that fails and then Dimitri hides in some sh*thole from Niko and does everything to run away from him. Edited July 12, 2021 by lol232 MrPikmin16, billiejoearmstrong8 and iiCriminnaaL 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhettoJesus Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) Dmitri killed Faustin for power and for making peace with Petrovic. Two birds with one stone. The average grunt doesn't need to fear Dmitri because he and his men rely on each other. Dmitri needs the men to do his bidding and the grunts gain money via Dmitri's wise leadership. Dmitri will kill those who betray him or who are liabilities but as long as you are working for him and do everything he says you shouldn't worry. Sure, he backstabbed Niko but his case was special. A powerful and rich man wanted him dead, this can't be said about most of the Russian gangsters. Dmitri could have wanted to tie up loose ends as mentioned before but to be honest I think he started a form of partnership with Bulgarin once the two got to know each other. Then Dmitri must have figured that Bulgarin is a lot more beneficial than Niko. Edited April 15, 2021 by GhettoJesus MrPikmin16, iiCriminnaaL and Dr Busta 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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