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How would you feel if the next few GTA's are PERIOD PIECES?


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CynicalMexican

Yeah, it definitely is a generational thing, and it goes back to the point I was trying to make. 

 

GTA 4, to me at least, is a period piece now. It took place during a pretty big time in history (2008-09 recession) and playing it today, I could really feel the vibe.

 

But younger generations can find older times pretty interesting. Joker took place in the late 70s-early 80s yet it was a hit. Synthwave is heavily influenced by 80s pop. 

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I've heard good arguments for why gta should remain modern or return to past settings all I know is I would just be happy to have 6 instead of V and online being rereleased. 

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2 minutes ago, Copcaller said:

I've heard good arguments for why gta should remain modern or return to past settings all I know is I would just be happy to have 6 instead of V and online being rereleased. 

If Online became its own thing and marketed to casual people/kids that would be fantastic. They could turn it into Mortal Dragon Ball Power Rangers SuperSpider Adventures and that'd be fine as long as it wouldn't encroach on proper GTA titles grounded in reality. 

 

But knowing T2, it ain't happening. 

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4 hours ago, CynicalMexican said:

If Online became its own thing and marketed to casual people/kids that would be fantastic. They could turn it into Mortal Dragon Ball Power Rangers SuperSpider Adventures and that'd be fine as long as it wouldn't encroach on proper GTA titles grounded in reality. 

 

But knowing T2, it ain't happening. 

Yeah I don't see them deviating from the current model I don't oppose online I really enjoyed it in 4 I just hate how it's taking away from single player content. 

 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Copcaller said:

Yeah I don't see them deviating from the current model I don't oppose online I really enjoyed it in 4 I just hate how it's taking away from single player content. 

 

 

 

Thing is, GTA 4's OG MP isn't really comparable to GTA Online.

 

GTA 4 MP is mostly extra game modes that seamlessly fit in the original game. It's mostly an extension of GTA 4, rather than a standalone thing. The game doesn't force MP on you, and there are no lootboxes or obvious differences between players except skill.

 

GTA Online feels like it's forced on you. It's always there advertised on the load screen, and the base SP game hasn't been updated since 2013 (aside from radio), with no SP plans in sight. Want to play the latest hottest GTA trends? Well you'd better get online, start grinding, and buying shark cards. Don't like it? Go play something else. That's the obnoxious vibe I get from it.

 

R* has kind of become what I feared - sorta like Blizzard where they mostly focus on online gaming. GTA, and R* titles in general, were always about individual experience but again, those days are gone. 

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On 5/26/2021 at 8:02 PM, Kris194 said:

Yes, we are and as a person who lived in 2000's I can definitely say, that way more has changed between 80s and 2000's than between 2000's and 2020's.

 

OT: I would feel great. I miss those period pieces in GTA series.

As someone who also lived in the 2000s,I gotta say the world has changed at least as much between 2000s and 2020s as between 80s and 2000s.In the 2000s you had video stores and DVDs (even VHS tapes were still a thing in the early 2000s) and now we have streaming services,back then almost all the cars were petrol or diesel,and now we're getting more and more hybrids and electric cars (most of them being SUVs),back then we had old school cell phones like Nokia 3310, Siemens C60 and Sony Ericsson K750,and now we have smart phones which are "smarter" than most computers and laptops from 15-20 years ago,back then the social media was still in the early days and was mostly popular among the youth,now everyone's grandpa has a facebook account,trends in music and fashion were different,and the biggest difference is that back then the only people wearing masks on the streets outside of halloween were those who were about to commit a crime.IMO,a lot has definitely changed since back then.

I'd personally be happy with either the decades I grew up in (90s and 2000s) or those before I was born (such as 70s or 80s).

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On 6/4/2021 at 2:19 PM, GTA-Biker said:

As someone who also lived in the 2000s,I gotta say the world has changed at least as much between 2000s and 2020s as between 80s and 2000s.In the 2000s you had video stores and DVDs (even VHS tapes were still a thing in the early 2000s) and now we have streaming services,back then almost all the cars were petrol or diesel,and now we're getting more and more hybrids and electric cars (most of them being SUVs),back then we had old school cell phones like Nokia 3310, Siemens C60 and Sony Ericsson K750,and now we have smart phones which are "smarter" than most computers and laptops from 15-20 years ago,back then the social media was still in the early days and was mostly popular among the youth,now everyone's grandpa has a facebook account,trends in music and fashion were different,and the biggest difference is that back then the only people wearing masks on the streets outside of halloween were those who were about to commit a crime.IMO,a lot has definitely changed since back then.

I'd argue that "as much" has changed between 2000 and 2020 as between 1980 and 2000. Most of the things we had in 2020 are the same things we had in 2000, just with different technology, whereas these simply didn't exist in 1980 (or weren't ubiquitous):

- Mobile phones

- Internet

- Plastics

- Computers (including ATMs and anything with a screen and a CPU)

- DNA and other new methods of crime investigation

 

And then other things have almost completely disappeared between 1980 and 2000:

- Green spaces in cities and towns

- People socialising and playing sports

 

In terms of technology and the thought supression - yes, there have been massive developments since 2000, but they wouldn't affect the experience of playing a GTA game. I mean, driving an electric vehicle is no different than driving a petrol vehicle; but having to visit people in person rather than call them is a massive change.

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16 hours ago, Lioshenka said:

I mean, driving an electric vehicle is no different than driving a petrol vehicle; but having to visit people in person rather than call them is a massive change.

That's not really the way the phone works in GTA, though. You still have to visit people in order to accept missions. The phone's really just there to add a little depth to the story and characters. They'd likely just replace it with slightly longer cutscenes and/or more car ride passenger conversations. It certainly wouldn't be a massive change to the usual GTA formula.

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2 hours ago, DexMacLeod said:

That's not really the way the phone works in GTA, though. You still have to visit people in order to accept missions. The phone's really just there to add a little depth to the story and characters. They'd likely just replace it with slightly longer cutscenes and/or more car ride passenger conversations. It certainly wouldn't be a massive change to the usual GTA formula.

Hell, maybe an 80s GTA would throw in those old school computers and pagers because why not? 

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On 6/9/2021 at 11:52 AM, Lioshenka said:

I'd argue that "as much" has changed between 2000 and 2020 as between 1980 and 2000. Most of the things we had in 2020 are the same things we had in 2000, just with different technology, whereas these simply didn't exist in 1980 (or weren't ubiquitous):

- Mobile phones

- Internet

- Plastics

- Computers (including ATMs and anything with a screen and a CPU)

- DNA and other new methods of crime investigation

 

And then other things have almost completely disappeared between 1980 and 2000:

- Green spaces in cities and towns

- People socialising and playing sports

 

In terms of technology and the thought supression - yes, there have been massive developments since 2000, but they wouldn't affect the experience of playing a GTA game. I mean, driving an electric vehicle is no different than driving a petrol vehicle; but having to visit people in person rather than call them is a massive change.

Mobile phones did exist in the 80s,but at the time only rich people could afford them,they just became more commonly used and advanced in the 2000s.In both the 80s, 2000s and 2020s the protagonist would still need to visit people in person since no criminal with any brain in his head would talk business over the phone.Computers and even internet were around too,but only companies had computers,and the internet was mostly used by the US military and the scientific communities,both just started to be used by regular people in the 90s.Plastic was first made in 1907,and while DNA was first used in forensics in 1988,it was first discovered as early as the 1860s.Also,I remember people still socialized a lot in person in the 2000s,it wasn't until social media and smartphones got big in the late 2000s that people started,as old people would say,"staring at the screens all the time".Not to mentioned stuff that disappeared between 2000 and 2020,like video stores, payphones, non-dirt bike two stroke motorcycles, cable and satellite TV, etc.Same with the stuff that appeared or got big since then,like online shopping, social media or streaming services.2000s were definitely a lot different from 2020s.

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4 minutes ago, GTA-Biker said:

Mobile phones did exist in the 80s,but at the time only rich people could afford them,they just became more commonly used and advanced in the 2000s.In both the 80s, 2000s and 2020s the protagonist would still need to visit people in person since no criminal with any brain in his head would talk business over the phone.Computers and even internet were around too,but only companies had computers,and the internet was mostly used by the US military and the scientific communities,both just started to be used by regular people in the 90s.Plastic was first made in 1907,and while DNA was first used in forensics in 1988,it was first discovered as early as the 1860s.

That's why I explicitly said

 

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3 minutes ago, Lioshenka said:

That's why I explicitly said

 

 

Still,the point is,there was a lot of differences between 2000s and 2020,about as much as there were between 1980s and 2000s.

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On 3/21/2021 at 3:10 PM, Zello said:

Whenever that first trailer comes out. Half of us will be celebrating and the other half will either be pissed off or crying.

The trailer obviously won't show most of the features.
For example, RDR2 don't show even Dutch, John, Guarma, New Austin.

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Hey guys, I just watched a hidden gem called "Scarface" and an underrated series called "Narcos" (I don't know, if you watched those, give it a try) and I was like you know, what if like the next GTA was set in the 80's in Miami and Colombia you know. The story could be something like: a little mobster called Tony Tommy smuggles cocaine from Colombia to Miami and wants to build his own drug empire, isn't that awesome? And the other protagonist could be maybe like an undercover agent called Steve Mur...uh Steven Morrey idk maybe give him a brown leather jacket and a mustache or something. And I don't know, maybe add many flashy neon lights and make the menu and logo pink cause i really think that is very authentic for the 80's, cause you know everything was in blue and pink back then. Idk the 80's had a very good vibe you know what I am saying, the other day I was like listening to the greatest hits album and I realized how so much better the music was back then, you know? I was definitely born in the wrong generation! like I was hearing the other day to "Bill Eyelashes" on the radio and I was like cmon cuh, do I look like 14 or what? I am a grown ass man! Gimme them old school! I don't know if anyone likes my original story, but it was a little unique idea I had in my head you know, cause the next GTA will obviously be set in Vice City, cause you know of the (VI)ce City.  

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15 hours ago, Thomas Cavendish said:

The trailer obviously won't show most of the features.
For example, RDR2 don't show even Dutch, John, Guarma, New Austin.

 

First Rockstar trailers are always teasers that focus more on the world and atmosphere rather than the characters, but of course, they subtly show us the core motivations of them:

 

 

 

 

 

So in conclusion, when GTA VI's first trailer releases, we'll know how the world will feel, but we won't know what the hell the story will be about, or how it will play out. 

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1 hour ago, The Tracker said:

First Rockstar trailers are always teasers that focus more on the world and atmosphere rather than the characters, but of course, they subtly show us the core motivations of them:

And the best thing is that world itself is enough to make people hyped for a new Rockstar's game. We always get as highly realised world as possible, no matter if it's a Bully or Grand Theft Auto, it's never half-baked sh*t.

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