Next DLC Speculation Topic Mk XI

[Calakarad]

7 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

You know I always forget about Mumblemann and Ses-iamnotanundercovercop-santa's Contracts.

I think Tez meant Vehicle Warehouse for Import/Export

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

Wow, needing to actually have a PS5 in order to be able to redeem GTAO for free or whatever is next level of pettiness.

 

I mean, it's not like us PS4 players were unable to redeem PS+ games for the PS5 through the PS App before or anything, right?

[needforsuv]

21 minutes ago, Sepp303 said:

@needforsuv

I bet you told it every year, you already started with it  2017 or already on PS4 launch day "online mod menues aren´t far way" lmao.

Stop spreading crap.

Thanks

 

 

 

but Cyberpunk leak does point to mod menus

 

14 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

and use being a nightclub owner as the legit cover for your empire.

I got a nightclub before any businesses just for the vans

[RyuNova]

Just now, needforsuv said:

I got a nightclub before any businesses just for the vans

 

I know you can get it at any point, but narratively it makes sense for it to be your legit front.

[VitoCorleone1992]

2 hours ago, Zak Ras said:

It sounds like before you get into gameplay, it goes like this.

- Design Character (like the current build).

- Pick your desired "Career Path".

- You will then be provided with a preset shopping list of items based on your choice you can buy- with a $4,000,000 allowance to spend on whatever you like from this list, upgrades for the relevant business, weapons + upgrades, etc. .

- You can only have a maximum of $1,000,000 leftover to take with you once you start playing - so it seems like they planned ahead for anyone thinking they could just nab a Kosotka. It'd be best to spend as close to the $3m mark as possible to get the maximum value out of the "free" $4m

 

This doesn't change the fact Gunrunner will still be the best option from the list. If players are given a choice over which Bunker they buy, pick Chumash over anything else, it's right on the western highway that cuts straight through Los Santos, taking you where ever you need to go for those 1 Purchase Supply = 1 Sell Vehicle missions with ease.

I just have a question that probably everyone is asking: who sane person would just reset the character, to build a career path? I can understand new players, but veterans...i don't think anyone would do that.
 

2 hours ago, ACR said:

If there is a trailer this week we will know for sure if its gonna also be available for pc. But i doubt there is going to be trailer at all since there is nothing significant to present in terms of content like regular summer and winter update unlesss content tied to Hao's shop is bigger than it seems. 

I wonder where exactly the Hao's garage would feature inside the LSCM. Or maybe they will just add a new separate room.

Edited March 8, 2022 by VitoCorleone1992

[Calakarad]

4 minutes ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

I just have a question that probably everyone is asking: who sane person would just reset the character, to build a career path? I can understand new players, but veterans...i don't think anyeone would do that.

I almost answered this but then remembered you asked "sane person", that's me out.

[AlexVersus]

1 hour ago, Edward85 said:

this claim has already been debunked MULTIPLE times, current PC doesn't have HDR, 3D audio, raytracing, the updated fire and smoke effects, and possibly not even the new traffic and npc upgrades, enough with saying it's just PC version on consoles when that is demonstrably not true

among others I listed above

and the picture is much better on ps 5 than on pc

[Koger]

3 hours ago, needforsuv said:

No, the update folder
I know being integrated means there probably won't be dlc names yet, but...

 

there's still filenames in audios folder which may not be changed, but would be nice to look at them nonetheless

You can't even check file names if you can't open the rpf archives though. All the audio is in those archives aswell. The furthest you can get in the update folder is just looking at all the dlc folders which you can't access any further... Not much to see in there without opening those rpf files sadly.

[Tez2]

1 hour ago, needforsuv said:

or go straight to kosatka at that point

Grinding what exactly? If you reach 1.5m at that point, you would need to grind extra 700k doing what? CEO Crates and VIP Work? A bunker mixed with VIP Work would be better.

[VitoCorleone1992]

3 hours ago, Mexicola9302 said:

Still no word about the PC version, ah f*ck them seriously.

 

Pre-Load GTAV and GTA Online on PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S

 

3 hours ago, Crateman said:

PC players treated like crap again

Take it easy you two. Let's just wait until at the very least March 15th and we will have our answers.
 

3 hours ago, Gridl0k said:

Did they say the chameleon paints are exclusive to returning players? Interesting choice if so.

They weren't clear about that. They just say basically who gets into E&E, probably being returning player or not doesn't matter. What only is left to see, as usual, is if PC players will also have that exclusive content. Let's not forget that only maybe it was in the Casino DLC that they decided to give PS4 returning players such as some cars like the stallion, blista compact, kraken submarine, etc., to the PC players. And still PC players didn't got other things like the Michael's murdering mystery quest and other miscellanious stuff until Tuners DLC and that was just because R* was forced to do so, bcz they weren't able to give returning players (consoles) some bonus due to some bug and the only way to bypass that problem was to give every returning player bonus to everyone, including PC players, like...lol.
 

3 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

Except it also adds ray tracing which means under the hood changes and other misc. stuff like GTA Online UI changes which were announced in the previous article. I do hope PC gets the other stuff eventually, but this is indeed a console focused update.

 

That's why we are yet to see if we get the update 1) also in March 15th and 2) if free or not (and i don't know what bs excuse they will come out with to explain to pc players why they have to pay for a "PC port to PC". Also, let me tell you, when you say the words "PC gets it eventually" and "console focus update", it scares me, lol...even more bcz as someone from the inner-circle of exclusive and earlier information, there's the change that you already know what's the future of E&E for PC and i ask myself if you at this point aren't just prepare the forumers pc players for bad news.
 

2 hours ago, ACR said:

New feature on pc was in testing phase for some days already

Well...Ballstorture made a name for itself. He entered the annals of meme history.
 

1 hour ago, Pedinhuh said:

Nightclub is flat out the worse of the bunch.

 

Yes you get to have the best passive money maker in the game and the largest vehicle garage to store your PVs once it's maxed out.

 

But, without having neither the MC businesses, nor Hangar/CEO Warehouse, nor the Bunker, your Nightclub will essentially be a glorified safehouse, that you have to do the tedious popularity missions(including the infamous Blimp and gluing posters on random walls in the city missions) for very sh*tty payouts that demands constant replays.

 

MC Bussinesses are atleast a little bit lucrative once you got them all setup and running, they're infuriating as well but at least it won't take you as long to set it up.

R* just the passive income right basically with the Agency.

First the Nightclubs = passive income depends how many missions you do. Wouldn't be bad if a lot of missions weren't boring and burn you a lot of time, such as: blimp (a grief feast target), posters and getting the damn beer van always in the desert in that Lost trailer park. And each mision only gave you half bar of popularity.

Second the Arcades = basically you didn't need to do boring missions and you just seat yourself down and the only difference that you could make to help your passive income was to earn the biggest amount of arcades games to speed up your passive income. Still, it gets boring sometimes since you basically don't need to do nothing to kill the boredom.

 

Third the Agency = cool missions overall (less that damn humane labs missions where you have to drive a slow ass van) and your income depends on many missions you do. You don't need to do 200 missions to get 200k of income each 24h in game time, bcz 50k per day is also not bad, specially for players that already have much money. And contrary to the Nightclubs you don't need to do missions in order to receive passive income, you get the money that you worked for. If you did certain amount of missions you will get everyday X amount of money.

[Insoluble Fiber]

Could it be that the reason they arent mentioning PC is because it is considered as obvious that we are getting the new stuff too? they did mention waaay back that "E&E" will continue on PC as well. 

Also, whenever we had updates before they never mention oh its coming to consoles and PC, we already knew that. 

Although, the current situation does raise questions. It has been marketed as a newer version (which technically it is) but just how really new is it apart from graphical upgrades and a couple of new items? The confusion that arises here is the fact that it has been marketed as a new game but there was already speculation that this would be 'like' the PC version and then it was stated by r* themselves and at the same it was marketed just for ps and xbox - no mention of PC. 

I do think we will get just a silent patch on the 15th. I mean if they were working on delivering these new items for PC like versions, how much more work would be needed to implement it onto PC?

[Mexicola9302]

5 minutes ago, Insoluble Fiber said:

Could it be that the reason they arent mentioning PC is because it is considered as obvious that we are getting the new stuff too? they did mention waaay back that "E&E" will continue on PC as well. 

Also, whenever we had updates before they never mention oh its coming to consoles and PC, we already knew that. 

Although, the current situation does raise questions. It has been marketed as a newer version (which technically it is) but just how really new is it apart from graphical upgrades and a couple of new items? The confusion that arises here is the fact that it has been marketed as a new game but there was already speculation that this would be 'like' the PC version and then it was stated by r* themselves and at the same it was marketed just for ps and xbox - no mention of PC. 

I do think we will get just a silent patch on the 15th. I mean if they were working on delivering these new items for PC like versions, how much more work would be needed to implement it onto PC?

If that is the case that PC players get an update, why not mention it? It's just annoying, it would calm PC players down, if they would do that. The lack of information is annoying.

[MGgames100]

i really don't get how they are gonna do the nightclubber route, since it requires other businesses...

[Insoluble Fiber]

5 minutes ago, Mexicola9302 said:

If that is the case that PC players get an update, why not mention it? It's just annoying, it would calm PC players down, if they would do that. The lack of information is annoying.

as i said i think the reason they are not mentioning is because it is implied we are getting it 

and also because of marketing purposes i believe, it sounds more exciting to present it as a new game on new consoles 

Edited March 8, 2022 by Insoluble Fiber

[Mexicola9302]

2 minutes ago, Insoluble Fiber said:

as i said i think the reason they are not mentioning is because it is implied we are getting it 

and also because of marketing purposes i believe, it sounds more exciting to present it as a new game on new consoles 

Then they clearly suck in marketing, that is for sure.

[CaliMeatWagon]

2 hours ago, Tez2 said:

you would have to do a lot of grinding to reach the trick that allows you to source top-end cars only.

Not really. There are 10 Standard, 10 Mid Range, and 12 Top Range. If you sell the Top Range as soon as you get it, but keep the others, at least every 3rd stolen vehicle would be a Top Range. But as you start storing them, the chance of getting a Top Range increases with each car. 

Also, if you start with $4M, you'll need most of that to upgrade the Bunker (The combined cost of the upgrade is ~$2M).
With the Bunker alone you are making ~$60K+/- an hour (at peak it makes $1K worth of product a minute). To make it worth it you would also need to run VIP/CEO work. This is about ~$170K+/- an hour. Combined that is ~$230K+/-.

An Office plus I/E warehouse is only about $2.5M combined. Selling Top Range cars is ~$192K+/- an hour. Now with this you won't be able to fully grind VIP/CEO work, but, you should still be able to bust out 4-5 of them in between steals and sales. This works out to an average of ~$290K+/- an hour. 

Time to a million for Bunker+CEO Work = ~$1,050,000+/- in 5 hours
Time to a million for I/E+CEO Work= ~$1,138,000+/- in 4 hours

And I could be wrong in how I read it, but I read it as you get one property plus $4M. 
If you get the Bunker free, you'll need to spend $2M to upgrade. Plus $1M for an office (I know you can run it as VIP, but why?). Leaving you with $1M left over. To get the sub you would need to grind for an extra ~15+/- hours. 

If you get the Office free, you'll need to spend $1.5M for the I/E Warehouse, which would leave you with $2.5M left over. 
To get the sub you would need to grind for an extra ~6+/- hours.

In my opinion, the Office plus I/E Warehouse is the way to go. 
 

[Spider-Vice]

8 minutes ago, MGgames100 said:

i really don't get how they are gonna do the nightclubber route, since it requires other businesses...

Maybe there's gonna be changes in how that works? Or they might just give you (or you spend part of that $4M) one or two of the other businesses.

[TheCoolDean]

Dear Rockstar Games,

 

you better release the E&E edition (or whatever it's called) as a patch on March 15th for us PC players,

 

or else,

 

I'm putting bounties, mercenaries, airstrikes -_-

 

Also, if we were to get it on PC, do they have to rework all the textures to benefit from RTX features?

[Insoluble Fiber]

1 minute ago, Mexicola9302 said:

Then they clearly suck in marketing, that is for sure.

they lack communication with players a bit id say which is again a marketing technique? xdd

[VitoCorleone1992]

8 minutes ago, Insoluble Fiber said:

Could it be that the reason they arent mentioning PC is because it is considered as obvious that we are getting the new stuff too? they did mention waaay back that "E&E" will continue on PC as well. 

Also, whenever we had updates before they never mention oh its coming to consoles and PC, we already knew that. 

Although, the current situation does raise questions. It has been marketed as a newer version (which technically it is) but just how really new is it apart from graphical upgrades and a couple of new items? The confusion that arises here is the fact that it has been marketed as a new game but there was already speculation that this would be 'like' the PC version and then it was stated by r* themselves and at the same it was marketed just for ps and xbox - no mention of PC. 

I do think we will get just a silent patch on the 15th. I mean if they were working on delivering these new items for PC like versions, how much more work would be needed to implement it onto PC?

If you asked me,  i'm i affraid that PC will not get E&E? I will say no, bcz even i think it was Tez or Wildbrick (i don't want to give this credit to the wrong person...), one of them said that Hao's new garage map icon was found in PC files, so...like..."tell me batman, you're the greatest detective of the world..." it's not rocket science...it's pretty obvious that will come to PC.

The million dollar question is if the update will be free for pc and if will come at the same day as consoles. What people are (maybe with an ureasonable level of paranoid) is that if the case is clearly logical that PC players will not have to buy for the E&E since they aren't doing any port, what? Would we be porting PC to...PC? It doens't make any sense! So, some people believe that due it's going to be free R* decided to, in order to not pissed off the console players that will have to buy the game agian while PC players probably not (but is really R* giving a damn f*ck about the "feelings" of "envy" and "rage" fromm console players towards PC players bcz they aren't (in theory) paying for E&E like them? Do even console players giving to much case about PC players?). Not to mention that probably that stuff of Sony want exclusivity for the first 3 months have to do with the rivalry between PS and Xbox and they don't care that much about PC lore, since PC and consoles are quite two separate worlds that don't care what happens in each other's side.

Maybe what contributes to the feeling of paranoia is the fact that R* had the balls to give a DE for 60$ and well...it was pretty non deserved. Due the fact that it was basically a new layer of painting over the graphics that those games had from the 3D era, without any major improvements, neither cut content, neither new content, nothing. Still they were bold enough to ask for 60$ like the DE was something revolutionary and "new-new" in what concerns a remaster of the old trilogy. So yeah...i would also say that because of that fact i wouldn't 100% discard the possibility of R* press the f*ck you button and here we go 60$ for the E&E to PC, but i don't think they would do that, bcz if so, then i guess they would make a E&E propaganda towards PC too, sine it's not due the fact that it's nothing about a new port or better saying, since they can't win that "battle" of give a plausible excuse to charge the E&E towards PC, what they will probably do is just a silent free update and i don't see why they would post-pone the release for PC, bcz, whatever comes with the E&E in terms of content, despite R* will not profit from PC players in what concerns the purchase of the E&E, they still can get profit via the shark cards from the new content that will come with the E&E. So, it what makes for sense from a bussiness perspective, bcz what matters is if there's stonks or not to get.

[ACR]

15 minutes ago, MGgames100 said:

i really don't get how they are gonna do the nightclubber route, since it requires other businesses...

To sucker some uninformed players (and there are a lot of them) into the moneysink. Wait until they find out you need biker and other businesses to have decent passive income and all of those require millions investing in them therefore time and therefore for some newbie who wanted to roleplay as some nightclub mogul eihter wasting a lot of time or couple of nice sharkcards. Out of those 4, the only ones viable are ceo and somewhat gunrunner, but noobs don't know that and are too lazy to inform themselves on internet.

[VitoCorleone1992]

10 minutes ago, TheCoolDean said:

Also, if we were to get it on PC, do they have to rework all the textures to benefit from RTX features?

Good point...some expert here can asnwer this please?

[arisfelbonilla]

20 minutes ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

If you asked me,  i'm i affraid that PC will not get E&E? I will say no, bcz even i think it was Tez or Wildbrick (i don't want to give this credit to the wrong person...), one of them said that Hao's new garage map icon was found in PC files, so...like..."tell me batman, you're the greatest detective of the world..." it's not rocket science...it's pretty obvious that will come to PC.

The million dollar question is if the update will be free for pc and if will come at the same day as consoles. What people are (maybe with an ureasonable level of paranoid) is that if the case is clearly logical that PC players will not have to buy for the E&E since they aren't doing any port, what? Would we be porting PC to...PC? It doens't make any sense! So, some people believe that due it's going to be free R* decided to, in order to not pissed off the console players that will have to buy the game agian while PC players probably not (but is really R* giving a damn f*ck about the "feelings" of "envy" and "rage" fromm console players towards PC players bcz they aren't (in theory) paying for E&E like them? Do even console players giving to much case about PC players?). Not to mention that probably that stuff of Sony want exclusivity for the first 3 months have to do with the rivalry between PS and Xbox and they don't care that much about PC lore, since PC and consoles are quite two separate worlds that don't care what happens in each other's side.

Maybe what contributes to the feeling of paranoia is the fact that R* had the balls to give a DE for 60$ and well...it was pretty non deserved. Due the fact that it was basically a new layer of painting over the graphics that those games had from the 3D era, without any major improvements, neither cut content, neither new content, nothing. Still they were bold enough to ask for 60$ like the DE was something revolutionary and "new-new" in what concerns a remaster of the old trilogy. So yeah...i would also say that because of that fact i wouldn't 100% discard the possibility of R* press the f*ck you button and here we go 60$ for the E&E to PC, but i don't think they would do that, bcz if so, then i guess they would make a E&E propaganda towards PC too, sine it's not due the fact that it's nothing about a new port or better saying, since they can't win that "battle" of give a plausible excuse to charge the E&E towards PC, what they will probably do is just a silent free update and i don't see why they would post-pone the release for PC, bcz, whatever comes with the E&E in terms of content, despite R* will not profit from PC players in what concerns the purchase of the E&E, they still can get profit via the shark cards from the new content that will come with the E&E. So, it what makes for sense from a bussiness perspective, bcz what matters is if there's stonks or not to get.

the hot coffee did irreparable damage to rockstar which is why pc receives later
they need a delorean to ask the modder not to discover it xd

[ACR]

I think they need directx 12 for RT, i doubt they reworked textures for PS5 and XBOS versions from scratch. Possible scenario for PC is updating with new content but without new graphical options available for consoles with maybe adding those later or completely cutting them off for PC but continue with content support alongside consoles until GTA6. 

[MGgames100]

14 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Maybe there's gonna be changes in how that works? Or they might just give you (or you spend part of that $4M) one or two of the other businesses.

I don't think they are gonna do that. It's quite obvious that this whole edition is quite lazy and R* pretty much never updates older mechanics. You're probably right, they probably gonna give those players heavy discount on the cheapest nightclub and then you have 3 mil or so to invest in the rest, but still, you'll be able to buy cheapest sh*t only. Even if they would grant a boosts to specific routes (i.e faster production times for Nightclubber route), it wouldn't still make it really profitable.

[Edward85]

seemed pretty clear to me, you can spend some or all of up to GTA$4M, you get to keep the remainder up to GTA$1M, so if you spend GTA$2,999,999 you would get to keep GTA$1M, and GTA$1 would be wasted

[Zak Ras]

1 hour ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

I just have a question that probably everyone is asking: who sane person would just reset the character, to build a career path? I can understand new players, but veterans...i don't think anyone would do that.

Certainly not. When it comes to newer players though I have undeniably seen a bunch of brand new players over the last 5 months. I joined Reddit a few weeks back purely to do a bit of self-promotion of my MGS content along with clearing any confusion people have about the deep lore of that franchise, however when it comes to the questions people unironically ask on the GTA Online Reddit, that taps into my Heist Randoms rage - the f'ing decisions people on there make followed by stupid questions like; "hOw Do I mAkE mOnEy WiTh ThIs?".

 

I now understand and partially agree with this mentality;

 

Edited March 8, 2022 by Zak Ras

[arisfelbonilla]

29 minutes ago, Zak Ras said:

Ciertamente no. Sin embargo, cuando se trata de jugadores nuevos, indudablemente he visto un montón de jugadores nuevos en los últimos 5 meses. Me uní a Reddit hace unas semanas simplemente para hacer un poco de autopromoción de mi contenido de MGS y aclarar cualquier confusión que la gente tenga sobre la profunda tradición de esa franquicia, sin embargo, cuando se trata de las preguntas que la gente hace sin ironía en GTA Online Reddit , que aprovecha mi furia de Heist Randoms: las jodidas decisiones que toma la gente allí seguidas de preguntas estúpidas como; "¿CÓMO GANO DINERO CON ESTO?".

 

Ahora entiendo y estoy parcialmente de acuerdo con esta mentalidad;

 

I confirm
o'sea this for new players is good for them xd
that are many

[CaliMeatWagon]

30 minutes ago, ACR said:

To sucker some uninformed players (and there are a lot of them) into the moneysink. Wait until they find out you need biker and other businesses to have decent passive income and all of those require millions investing in them therefore time and therefore for some newbie who wanted to roleplay as some nightclub mogul eihter wasting a lot of time or couple of nice sharkcards. Out of those 4, the only ones viable are ceo and somewhat gunrunner, but noobs don't know that and are too lazy to inform themselves on internet.

Nightclub popularity produces $44K (+$2.5K-$5K) for doing one popularity mission once every 4 hours. The Terabytes Clients Jobs are also the highest dollar per minute earner out of the possible options. In fact, it is one of the highest DPM earners outside of Cayo Perico. 

Headhunter ~$5,125
Top Range Cars ~$5,333
Large Crate warehouse ~$5,842
Diamond Shopping ~$6,200

[Spider-Vice]

49 minutes ago, TheCoolDean said:

Also, if we were to get it on PC, do they have to rework all the textures to benefit from RTX features?

Nah, not all of them, perhaps only glass materials and so on if they intend to ray trace reflections in buildings or similar. That work would've already been done for the next-gen version anyway so... I'm not sure where we'd stand on the rest of the textures if the game were to switch to DX12 though, it could be a pretty beefy download if they had to re-export everything - honestly don't know.

 

34 minutes ago, ACR said:

I think they need directx 12 for RT, i doubt they reworked textures for PS5 and XBOS versions from scratch.

Yep, needs DX12. I doubt they reworked textures too (just select materials to allow for ray tracing) but I'm not sure if they need to be exported again within their dev pipeline as I was mentioning above.