What is your favorite theory about GTA San Andreas?

[BennyGod]

Share your favorite theory!

[LeatherJacketSoldier]

It's possible to join the Epsilon Program. (it's not a fact, it's just my favourite theory)

[BennyGod]

27 minutes ago, LeatherJacketSoldier said:

It's possible to join the Epsilon Program. (it's not a fact, it's just my favourite theory)

I mean you could RP I guess. 

[LeatherJacketSoldier]

1 hour ago, BennyGod said:

RP

Sorry, but I'm not entirely used to forums yet. What does RP exactly mean?

[Ray Carter]

I've looked for Sharks to see if they do really spawn, but just very rarely. The files exist, and the videos I've seen seem pretty legit if not really well faked.

 

Also, I've wondered why Shady Cabin and Lil Probe Inn are separate zones. I know zones control things like weather and traffic. Some zones in San Fierro trigger fog horn sounds and some zones in Los Santos trigger gun fire sounds. I thought Shady Cabin and Lil Probe Inn had something unique about them.

[BennyGod]

5 hours ago, LeatherJacketSoldier said:

Sorry, but I'm not entirely used to forums yet. What does RP exactly mean?

roleplay

3 hours ago, Ray Carter said:

I've looked for Sharks to see if they do really spawn, but just very rarely. The files exist, and the videos I've seen seem pretty legit if not really well faked.

 

Also, I've wondered why Shady Cabin and Lil Probe Inn are separate zones. I know zones control things like weather and traffic. Some zones in San Fierro trigger fog horn sounds and some zones in Los Santos trigger gun fire sounds. I thought Shady Cabin and Lil Probe Inn had something unique about them.

Maybe for Shady Creek Cabin the atmosphere changes? No idea for Lil Probe Inn though.

[String]

That Bigfoot exists in the countryside. The good old days of myth hunting after following DarkMythHunter and DaviDustin videos (in retrospect it was obviously bs but it was fun to follow, wonder if they are still kicking), searching with the thermal goggles for heat signatures in the woods, ahh good times for a dumb kid. 

 

The Epsilon program was cool too, I remember there was a ped with a backpack who would say kifflom uncle brother and stuff and iirc there was a theory he was trying to recruit people to the program, there was this place in the countryside/desert(?) with a few buildings with blue doors or something which iirc one video said was the meeting spot of the Epsilonists. 

[Dr Busta]

I remember reading a theory from 2004 that says that CJ is the same as Carl from GTA 3 and after the events of San Andreas he has a lot of money so he decided to do a plastic surgery and become white 

And there was another that says that CJ's mom in Toni's mom and CJ and Toni are brother

I don't know if I can link other gta forums in here though 

[BennyGod]

9 hours ago, DR:BUSTA said:

I remember reading a theory from 2004 that says that CJ is the same as Carl from GTA 3 and after the events of San Andreas he has a lot of money so he decided to do a plastic surgery and become white 

And there was another that says that CJ's mom in Toni's mom and CJ and Toni are brother

I don't know if I can link other gta forums in here though 

lol, both those theories make no sense. 

[LeatherJacketSoldier]

12 hours ago, BennyGod said:

roleplay

Ah. Not entirely sure what does roleplay expect, but I'll expand a bit like the others did.

 

20 hours ago, LeatherJacketSoldier said:

It's possible to join the Epsilon Program. (it's not a fact, it's just my favourite theory)

I've made a lot of research in the web to find if joining the EP is possible in GTA San Andreas, but never could find a coherent guide or the exact place where one is supposed to perform the ritual. I'm not the type to try anything in-game to see if a myth can be true, what I do is take a look at the most probably myths in the web, then check them for myself. These include:

. The killer cowboy: this is a pedestrian that's supposed to rarely spawn in the Whetstone and Flint County woods (pardon me if it's the same area), which will attack/shoot you on sight, at night (and chances for him to appear rises in foggy weather). This is a confirmed myth, but sadly I passed 3 game days in that area and couldn't find him, even when inputting the fog cheat after the third day.

. Big Smoke's ghost: after the last mission, if you enter Big Smoke's Crack Palace (this happens more often at the Ballas Lounge), you are supposed to hear Smoke's voice, and EVEN to watch a shadow moving on the floor through the corridors. You don't see exactly a ghost, but the explanation for the voices is that dialogue from the mission triggers again when you're around the last floor, but on a lower volume. However, Desert Eagle in hand, I never could prove this myth, though it's catalogued as a "probable myth". Maybe I should try aiming with a camera all the time or using IR/thermal goggles?

. Creepy sounds in Shady Cabin (at night, they wouldn't be creepy at daylight): these include the running sound of a chainsaw and a maniac laughter, these sounds in fact do appear in Bully SE when going through Blue Skies Industrial Park northern part during daylight (at least). I was in Shady Cabin for two nights, but didn't hear the sounds neither see Leatherface. This is catalogued as a "possible myth", instead of probable.

. Bio Wastes Well in (Montgomery?): I don't remember if it's in Montgomery or in Palomino Creek, but inside a block there is a well surrounded by a metal fence, made of bricks that glow green at night. I think the well was shut with planks, but I'm not sure. There is a popular but "unlikely myth" that says the well is that of the "Ringu" movie ("The Ring", as you may know it, is an American adaptation of the Japanese film), and that the ghost of Sadako will come out of the well at night and kill you instantly. Given the nature of this myth, I'm pretty sure it's false, but it would have been a fascinating and mind-blowing feature to add to the game.

 

10 hours ago, DR:BUSTA said:

I remember reading a theory from 2004 that says that CJ is the same as Carl from GTA 3 and after the events of San Andreas he has a lot of money so he decided to do a plastic surgery and become white 

And there was another that says that CJ's mom in Toni's mom and CJ and Toni are brother

I don't know if I can link other gta forums in here though 

Those theories are pretty weird XD

But it doesn't make much sense because Ma Cipriani wouldn't mess with a black man to have CJ. In LCS, she shows to be very devote to her late husband, whom apparently guards a good resemblance to Toni. And the plastic surgery? I can't find a reason why a guy like CJ would need that, since he's a gangster (that makes him be in danger at any moment) and has friends far more powerful and dangerous than his enemies.

[LeatherJacketSoldier]

5 minutes ago, LeatherJacketSoldier said:

. Bio Wastes Well in (Montgomery?): I don't remember if it's in Montgomery or in Palomino Creek, but inside a block there is a well surrounded by a metal fence, made of bricks that glow green at night. I think the well was shut with planks, but I'm not sure. There is a popular but "unlikely myth" that says the well is that of the "Ringu" movie ("The Ring", as you may know it, is an American adaptation of the Japanese film), and that the ghost of Sadako will come out of the well at night and kill you instantly. Given the nature of this myth, I'm pretty sure it's false, but it would have been a fascinating and mind-blowing feature to add to the game.

It was in Montgomery, and they say the myth is false (however, this classification goes for the ghost that comes out of CJ's TV in the Johnson's House, not for the ghost in the well). It's Sadako in Ringu, and Samara in The Ring. Still, the feature would be amazing to be included in GTA SA.

[Big_Smiley]

19 hours ago, Wayne Kerr said:

That Bigfoot exists in the countryside. The good old days of myth hunting after following DarkMythHunter and DaviDustin videos (in retrospect it was obviously bs but it was fun to follow, wonder if they are still kicking), searching with the thermal goggles for heat signatures in the woods, ahh good times for a dumb kid. 

We have rocks that have Demonic textures placed onto them so I wouldn't be surprised about Bigfoot still being somewhere throughout the woods of SA. Hell for all we know there's a hidden texture file somewhere in the games files that actually shows bigfoot body textures that no one would ever possibly find out unless digging majorly into SA's files that proves Bigfoot has an uknown presence in the game............

 

 

*puts on tin foil hat...starts eating chocolate* 

 

 

Edited March 1, 2021 by Big_Smiley
sh*t spelling....

[LeatherJacketSoldier]

29 minutes ago, Big_Smiley said:

Hell for all we know there's a hidden texture file somewhere in the games files that actually shows bigfoot body textures that no one would ever possibly find out unless digging majorly into SA's files that proves Bigfoot has an uknown presence in the game............

Man... There are 16322 files in gta3.img, and given that some models have more than one texture, you'd have to check around 8000 files to see if a model is weird enough to resemble a monster... Or check the other 8322 files to find a weird texture. It's an insane job anyway, and nobody has that much free time to do it. I tried to check the game files of GTA III to find a hint of Salvatore's ghost, which is a probable myth (I couldn't find it in-game), but got tired after 10 minutes of search. You need to have a lot of patience and perseverance.

[Big_Smiley]

2 hours ago, LeatherJacketSoldier said:

but got tired after 10 minutes of search. You need to have a lot of patience and perseverance.

Exactly.....there really can be a possibillity.....it just hasn't been found yet in almost 20 years................

 

 

*Continues to eat chocolate* 

Vago gang member: *ay dogg pass me that tin foil hat homie* 

 

Edited March 1, 2021 by Big_Smiley

[LeatherJacketSoldier]

7 hours ago, Big_Smiley said:

Exactly.....there really can be a possibillity.....it just hasn't been found yet in almost 20 years................

Right, you got me. I've read on GTA Myths about phantom files (I encourage you to do so). As soon as I complete my translation of american.gxt, I'm gonna hunt down the model files of all .img's. I hope I can bring some enlightment over this old myth.

[BennyGod]

20 hours ago, LeatherJacketSoldier said:

Ah. Not entirely sure what does roleplay expect, but I'll expand a bit like the others did.

 

I've made a lot of research in the web to find if joining the EP is possible in GTA San Andreas, but never could find a coherent guide or the exact place where one is supposed to perform the ritual. I'm not the type to try anything in-game to see if a myth can be true, what I do is take a look at the most probably myths in the web, then check them for myself. These include:

. The killer cowboy: this is a pedestrian that's supposed to rarely spawn in the Whetstone and Flint County woods (pardon me if it's the same area), which will attack/shoot you on sight, at night (and chances for him to appear rises in foggy weather). This is a confirmed myth, but sadly I passed 3 game days in that area and couldn't find him, even when inputting the fog cheat after the third day.

. Big Smoke's ghost: after the last mission, if you enter Big Smoke's Crack Palace (this happens more often at the Ballas Lounge), you are supposed to hear Smoke's voice, and EVEN to watch a shadow moving on the floor through the corridors. You don't see exactly a ghost, but the explanation for the voices is that dialogue from the mission triggers again when you're around the last floor, but on a lower volume. However, Desert Eagle in hand, I never could prove this myth, though it's catalogued as a "probable myth". Maybe I should try aiming with a camera all the time or using IR/thermal goggles?

. Creepy sounds in Shady Cabin (at night, they wouldn't be creepy at daylight): these include the running sound of a chainsaw and a maniac laughter, these sounds in fact do appear in Bully SE when going through Blue Skies Industrial Park northern part during daylight (at least). I was in Shady Cabin for two nights, but didn't hear the sounds neither see Leatherface. This is catalogued as a "possible myth", instead of probable.

. Bio Wastes Well in (Montgomery?): I don't remember if it's in Montgomery or in Palomino Creek, but inside a block there is a well surrounded by a metal fence, made of bricks that glow green at night. I think the well was shut with planks, but I'm not sure. There is a popular but "unlikely myth" that says the well is that of the "Ringu" movie ("The Ring", as you may know it, is an American adaptation of the Japanese film), and that the ghost of Sadako will come out of the well at night and kill you instantly. Given the nature of this myth, I'm pretty sure it's false, but it would have been a fascinating and mind-blowing feature to add to the game.

 

Those theories are pretty weird XD

But it doesn't make much sense because Ma Cipriani wouldn't mess with a black man to have CJ. In LCS, she shows to be very devote to her late husband, whom apparently guards a good resemblance to Toni. And the plastic surgery? I can't find a reason why a guy like CJ would need that, since he's a gangster (that makes him be in danger at any moment) and has friends far more powerful and dangerous than his enemies.

The Killer Cowboy myth sounds fake to me. Probably just someone using the riot and recruit everyone cheat or something.

[LeatherJacketSoldier]

1 hour ago, BennyGod said:

The Killer Cowboy myth sounds fake to me. Probably just someone using the riot and recruit everyone cheat or something.

Nah, I'm almost sure it's pretty real. It's always the same pedestrian, armed with guns like the Country Rifle, the Sawn-Off Shotgun, and the Desert Eagle. And, if I'm not wrong, sometimes spawn unarmed and punches the hell out of you. The recruit everyone cheats don't feature those guns (only 9mm, AK-47 and Rocket Launcher), and the riots cheat doesn't make pedestrians spawn in isolated areas like the woods or the desert (I mean, zones like El Castillo Del Diablo or the airstrip at Verdant Meadows, which don't have any pedestrians). And I didn't see around in the web a mod that adds such pedestrian spawn, but instead I read about many players showing evidence of the Killer Cowboy appearing at night in the woods (didn't bother watching the videos, they mean less to me than written evidence).

Edited March 1, 2021 by LeatherJacketSoldier
He can spawn with assault rifles, but that doesn't explain why he can spawn with an unusual weapon like the Desert Eagle.

[Americana]

That we are being watched by someone... 

[LeatherJacketSoldier]

34 minutes ago, Americana said:

That we are being watched by someone... 

Lol, that's the player, who watches all the pedestrians

[BennyGod]

1 hour ago, LeatherJacketSoldier said:

Nah, I'm almost sure it's pretty real. It's always the same pedestrian, armed with guns like the Country Rifle, the Sawn-Off Shotgun, and the Desert Eagle. And, if I'm not wrong, sometimes spawn unarmed and punches the hell out of you. The recruit everyone cheats don't feature those guns (only 9mm, AK-47 and Rocket Launcher), and the riots cheat doesn't make pedestrians spawn in isolated areas like the woods or the desert (I mean, zones like El Castillo Del Diablo or the airstrip at Verdant Meadows, which don't have any pedestrians). And I didn't see around in the web a mod that adds such pedestrian spawn, but instead I read about many players showing evidence of the Killer Cowboy appearing at night in the woods (didn't bother watching the videos, they mean less to me than written evidence).

Maybe I'll investigate. 

[Lioshenka]

My favourite is the Epsilon. I spent so many ingame hours trying to find the members' houses, following and bumping into them to get them to say stuff.

 

Also Mr Hat, who I have pushed more often than I'd like to admit.

 

And of course yeti, I remember exploring Panopticon at night when the fog has set, and I was too afraid to even walk on the group, so I exited the car and ran towards the nearest pile of logs to climb on them. Spend some time jumping from roof to roof lol.

[BennyGod]

21 hours ago, LeatherJacketSoldier said:

Nah, I'm almost sure it's pretty real. It's always the same pedestrian, armed with guns like the Country Rifle, the Sawn-Off Shotgun, and the Desert Eagle. And, if I'm not wrong, sometimes spawn unarmed and punches the hell out of you. The recruit everyone cheats don't feature those guns (only 9mm, AK-47 and Rocket Launcher), and the riots cheat doesn't make pedestrians spawn in isolated areas like the woods or the desert (I mean, zones like El Castillo Del Diablo or the airstrip at Verdant Meadows, which don't have any pedestrians). And I didn't see around in the web a mod that adds such pedestrian spawn, but instead I read about many players showing evidence of the Killer Cowboy appearing at night in the woods (didn't bother watching the videos, they mean less to me than written evidence).

I investigated this "Killer Cowboy." I went in Angel Pine and Back O' Beyond, and he didn't pull out a gun once when I provoked him. He seemed to run away from me more than fight me. Once, I even hijacked a truck with him in the passenger seat to the Shady Creek Cabin, and he didn't attack me then either. 

[LeatherJacketSoldier]

12 hours ago, BennyGod said:

I investigated this "Killer Cowboy." I went in Angel Pine and Back O' Beyond, and he didn't pull out a gun once when I provoked him. He seemed to run away from me more than fight me. Once, I even hijacked a truck with him in the passenger seat to the Shady Creek Cabin, and he didn't attack me then either. 

Have you tried inputting BGLUAWML? And also, check (if you want to try again) only the woods, since it's a common pedestrian and you may have bumped into an inoffensive one. Inputting the cheat (pedestrians attack you with guns) raises the chances for the KC to show up. And before you say it, the cheats give people the guns featured in the recruit everyone cheats, not uncommon ones. One last note: I was in the woods for three game days and couldn't find him, it's no wonder one has to look for him for more days to have more chances to find the KC.

[BennyGod]

1 hour ago, LeatherJacketSoldier said:

Have you tried inputting BGLUAWML? And also, check (if you want to try again) only the woods, since it's a common pedestrian and you may have bumped into an inoffensive one. Inputting the cheat (pedestrians attack you with guns) raises the chances for the KC to show up. And before you say it, the cheats give people the guns featured in the recruit everyone cheats, not uncommon ones. One last note: I was in the woods for three game days and couldn't find him, it's no wonder one has to look for him for more days to have more chances to find the KC.

I've played this game for years and I haven't seen any pedestrians or creature in Back O' Beyond/Shady Creeks. And most peds will attack you with weapons if you use the riot cheat.

[Lioshenka]

8 hours ago, BennyGod said:

I've played this game for years and I haven't seen any pedestrians or creature in Back O' Beyond/Shady Creeks. And most peds will attack you with weapons if you use the riot cheat.

I once saw a car turn from the main road by the timber mill in Angel Pine into the Shady Cabin area. I haven't been that excited and intrigued for a very long time!

 

I immediately followed it, but the guy followed the road through the Back of Beyond and emerged back onto the main road just outside of Los Santos. I was expecting him to stop at the cabin, so was a bit disappointed, but I never knew that there were car paths in the woods. This was the only time I saw a car driving there.

[BennyGod]

1 hour ago, Lioshenka said:

I once saw a car turn from the main road by the timber mill in Angel Pine into the Shady Cabin area. I haven't been that excited and intrigued for a very long time!

 

I immediately followed it, but the guy followed the road through the Back of Beyond and emerged back onto the main road just outside of Los Santos. I was expecting him to stop at the cabin, so was a bit disappointed, but I never knew that there were car paths in the woods. This was the only time I saw a car driving there.

I checked the path map, and yes, there are car paths in Shady Creek and Back O' Beyond that are off road. I thought they were used for races though. Maybe it's a glitch that causes the cars to go on race paths? Or maybe bigfoot car?

[Lioshenka]

1 hour ago, BennyGod said:

I checked the path map, and yes, there are car paths in Shady Creek and Back O' Beyond that are off road. I thought they were used for races though. Maybe it's a glitch that causes the cars to go on race paths? Or maybe bigfoot car?

 

That's interesting, I wonder when they are used. Maybe there was a reason why they were put there.

[BennyGod]

2 hours ago, Lioshenka said:

 

That's interesting, I wonder when they are used. Maybe there was a reason why they were put there.

Yes, it appears to be the race maps. I tried to overlap them to the best of my ability, and here are the results compared to the car map.

[LeatherJacketSoldier]

On 3/3/2021 at 1:11 AM, BennyGod said:

I've played this game for years and I haven't seen any pedestrians or creature in Back O' Beyond/Shady Creeks. And most peds will attack you with weapons if you use the riot cheat.

Man, this isn't the riots cheat. It is STATEOFEMERGENCY. And, people attack everyone during riots, not just you (in fact, in riots you are the less attacked pedestrian). BGLUAWML is the "everybody attack you with guns" cheat, and here people attack ONLY you, and take care specially of rocket launchers. Don't worry anyway, I'll add "check out KC" in my "things to do next time I MASSIVELY play San Andreas" list.

[BennyGod]

16 minutes ago, LeatherJacketSoldier said:

Man, this isn't the riots cheat. It is STATEOFEMERGENCY. And, people attack everyone during riots, not just you (in fact, in riots you are the less attacked pedestrian). BGLUAWML is the "everybody attack you with guns" cheat, and here people attack ONLY you, and take care specially of rocket launchers. Don't worry anyway, I'll add "check out KC" in my "things to do next time I MASSIVELY play San Andreas" list.

I checked him out pretty good already, and I didn't find anything unusual.