RDR2:O Breakdown- Telegrams

[StyxTx]

6 hours ago, kcole4001 said:

OK, I found out you can't start the missions from horseback....

Great logic there.

 

I only got 0.16 for the escort mission.

Had no deaths, so no idea why the reduced payout.

Not hard on standard, just guzzle a tonic when needed and blammo with the semi-auto shotgun & Winning Streak.

 

I messed up the Mayor's mission stealth: threw my ancient tomahawk, picked it up and then tried to use it again but as it switches the weapons after you run out (because there's only 1 ancient tomahawk) I had my repeater equipped.

Still made it out of town anyway, though the coppers were swarming the joint and my weapon loadout wasn't setup to deal with them effectively, since I was planning on doing it stealthily.

Next time.

 

edit: DOH!  I need more sleep, didn't read the payouts listed above fully, 0.16G is the normal payout.  

Get that much gold a lot faster doing 1 daily. How much $ or XP?

9 hours ago, YNNEL said:

Was it really necessary to have a cool down?

Yes. So you can't make gold too fast.

[kcole4001]

1 hour ago, StyxTx said:

Get that much gold a lot faster doing 1 daily. How much $ or XP?

 

 

Honestly I couldn't recall other than the gold, so...

 

According to Cali's breakdown thread: 

• "They pay Cash, Gold, and XP
  • Gold payout stays the same
  • Standard is 100% Cash/XP Payout
  • Hard is 120% Cash/XP Payout
  • Ruthless is 140% Cash/XP Payout
• They consist of:
  • Outrider- Escort Wagon, Hennigan's Stead 
    • Standard took me 6m 53s, got $0.16 Gold, $14.45 Cash, 216 XP
    • Hard
    • Ruthless
  • A One Horse Deal- Steal Horse, Emerald Ranch
    • Standard took me 10m 33s, $0.24 Gold, $21.07 Cash, 314 XP
    • Hard
    • Ruthless
  • Rich Pickings- Steal Gems, Saint Denis
    • Stand took me 18m 10s, got $0.36 Gold, $29.10 Cash, 434 XP"

 

 

[Ring Dang Do]

1 hour ago, StyxTx said:

Get that much gold a lot faster doing 1 daily. How much $ or XP?

Yes. So you can't make gold too fast.

Not sure it was your lack of sleep as I’m pretty sure it originally said .17 then was changed

[Krommer]

18 hours ago, CaliMeatWagon said:

There is a 24 minute cooldown between missions. 

 

I hope they don't nerf that! 

Seems pretty good, when they are around 6- 18 minutes long (so not much of a wait, if you just keep doing all 3 or whatever.)

Or wait, is the 24 minute cooldown between ANY of them(even if trying to do a different one) or just if trying to do the SAME one again?

 

 

15 hours ago, IzzyBlues said:

I wonder if these new missions will be integrated into the general daily challenges.

 

Yeah, I was surprised they were not today!

 

Stupid that the thing unbuffs/switches you to the default weapon layout when you start it (as well as when you exit it....)

At least Outrider did that for me. I was also in offensive mode, when it was over and exited to free roam (so watch for that,

I'm pretty sure I wasn't in offensive mode before that..)

Edited February 17, 2021 by Krommer

[CaliMeatWagon]

2 hours ago, Krommer said:

Or wait, is the 24 minute cooldown between ANY of them(even if trying to do a different one) or just if trying to do the SAME one again?

24 minutes between any of them. Do one, cooldown for the rest. 

[BUT THE BENZ]

can I play the missions on ruthless or whatever, in order to be able to FREE AIM away, right away? or do I need to unlock that sh*t?

[Zapper]

5 minutes ago, BUT THE BENZ said:

can I play the missions on ruthless or whatever, in order to be able to FREE AIM away, right away? or do I need to unlock that sh*t?

You have to unlock higher difficulties. Lower ones put you in a auto aim only session even if you have your own settings are set to free aim.

[fryday]

Its good to see, that players have fun with these missions, but for me it takes more to get me back playing RDO.

 

 

[kcole4001]

I forgot to mention you can't pick up collectibles when on these missions except for flowers apparently.

There was a bottle in the abandoned saloon at Emerald yesterday so I tried to get it after killing all the enemies but it wasn't there.

Confirmed by OnlyPvPCat.

 

I'll still do the missions, but only because of the fun and challenge of completing at least one by stealth.

The payout per minute is not profitable compared to anything else, and like legendary bounties your camp and shack stop producing while you're in the mission, which is another stupid point to these.

 

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6 hours ago, BUT THE BENZ said:

can I play the missions on ruthless or whatever, in order to be able to FREE AIM away, right away? or do I need to unlock that sh*t?

Each difficulty unlocks after completing the lower one for that mission, hopefully after you do all three you can choose each time you replay that mission.

Edited February 17, 2021 by kcole4001
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[BUT THE BENZ]

why, just, WHY?!

[fuzzyballs01]

On 2/16/2021 at 12:00 PM, fryday said:

 

 

I catched mine out of my box and ignored it for 5 minutes. after taht it was greyed out and it says" I cant open telegrams atm"

 

maybe another player on the server opened his?

 

well you need to be on foot, can't read the telegram on horseback because they didn't bother adding the animation

 

6 hours ago, kcole4001 said:

 

Each difficulty unlocks after completing the lower one for that mission, hopefully after you do all three you can choose each time you replay that mission.

you mean like how you can't select lower difficulty bounties? don't hold your breath, you won't be able to select a lower difficulty telegram

 

Edited February 17, 2021 by fuzzyballs01

[Krommer]

20 hours ago, StyxTx said:

On 2/16/2021 at 12:03 PM, YNNEL said:

Was it really necessary to have a cool down?

Yes. So you can't make gold too fast.

 

That kind of ruins them bothering to have this "update" at all.

 

I was hoping that the cooldown was per telegram mission type, so you could do one of the other ones; you can do a Bonnie free roam mission, then a Langton one

but would have to wait to do a Bonnie one again. Imagine if you had to wait 24 minutes to do ANYONE'S free roam mission after doing one?

This makes about as much sense to me, basically kind of ruining it.

 

What could have been cool, being able to do these solo things to get away from it all, ends up being something you can only do after waiting 24 minutes to do any of the three again.

So it kind of breaks up the monotony, but not really enough.

 

It obviously took them a bunch of work to even do these three missions and update the game, so the limitation is so

backwards.

Edited February 18, 2021 by Krommer

[YNNEL]

They don’t even make you wait that long in GTAO for the VIP work. The cool down is way too long and yes it would have made sense just to have a cool down per mission. I hope they change it but I’m not holding my breath because this is Rockstar and they can’t possibly allow us to earn an extra .24 gold.

[CaliMeatWagon]

During the Mansion "Heist" escape the police kamikazed my horse, sending me flying, then continued to instant spawn around me n groups of three until I was dead. 

That is enough Red Dead for today. 

[Direwrath]

19 hours ago, YNNEL said:

They don’t even make you wait that long in GTAO for the VIP work. The cool down is way too long and yes it would have made sense just to have a cool down per mission. I hope they change it but I’m not holding my breath because this is Rockstar and they can’t possibly allow us to earn an extra .24 gold.

They do it so people cannot spam the mission and make money, which is kind of the opposite of giving us something to keep us entertained. I hope they change it too.

 

You would think that the climbing difficulty would be the thing that determines whether someone decides to spam these missions or not?

 

Edited February 19, 2021 by Direwrath

[Krommer]

Is there a way to turn OFF free aim? I'm on "ruthless" on outrider now, which I don't see a way to turn off?

I thought you eventually enabled free aim, at higher levels of the telegram mission, but that it wasn't FORCED.

Nothing on the web searches I did tells how, to then do it not in free aim.
 

So it puts me in the mission in "free aim", which I'm horrible at. I still managed to complete it, by pumping potent

health tonics; I'm very bad at free-aim and even have trouble hitting the horse the guy is on (this is on Xbox One, with

all sliders for moving/aiming faster at the highest.)

 

Please don't say "get better at free-aim", that is like telling someone who says they can't walk to just get

better at walking 

 

 

[KatzeFive]

Just out of curiosity - could these missions be used to make solo lobbies ?  Just for half an hour, or so - thinking, that one could make a long trader delivery, now and then ..

[Direwrath]

49 minutes ago, Krommer said:

Is there a way to turn OFF free aim? I'm on "ruthless" on outrider now, which I don't see a way to turn off?

I thought you eventually enabled free aim, at higher levels of the telegram mission, but that it wasn't FORCED.

Nothing on the web searches I did tells how, to then do it not in free aim.
 

So it puts me in the mission in "free aim", which I'm horrible at. I still managed to complete it, by pumping potent

health tonics; I'm very bad at free-aim and even have trouble hitting the horse the guy is on (this is on Xbox One, with

all sliders for moving/aiming faster at the highest.)

 

Please don't say "get better at free-aim", that is like telling someone who says they can't walk to just get

better at walking 

 

 

I don't believe that you can.

It's kind of like the legendary bounties. They keep going up in level and difficulty and unlike the Moonshiner missions we aren't allowed to choose the level we want to play.

 

 

42 minutes ago, KatzeFive said:

Just out of curiosity - could these missions be used to make solo lobbies ?  Just for half an hour, or so - thinking, that one could make a long trader delivery, now and then ..

I'm not sure, it would depend on whether the camp is available to you during the mission? 

[Krommer]

35 minutes ago, Direwrath said:

I don't believe that you can.

It's kind of like the legendary bounties. They keep going up in level and difficulty and unlike the Moonshiner missions we aren't allowed to choose the level we want to play.

 

Yeah, they kind of lied then (well, lied by omission.)

 

The way it was phrased was something like, then you can use free aim after getting to the highest mode; this was rather than saying you are "forced" into using free aim in the highest mode

(and from then on, forever.) Hmm, actually I could not find anywhere that Rockstar mentioned it; I guess it was players saying after completing

the highest/getting to the highest/ you could always do them free aim.

 

I just did it again, to see if it changed and allowed selection after doing it in the highest mode, and you indeed are stuck with free aim.

This time I made liberal use of "paint it black", which helped. I just seem REALLY BAD at free aim, on Xbox one (again, with all selections for

max free/acclerated whatever aiming/turning/view.) It seems like the thing doesn't want me to kill guys with free aim.

The coach driver died this time, making it harder but I still made it pumping health tonics and killing a few of the guys in pursuit with

paint it black. The reward was still that low amount of gold, .17 or whatever, making it REALLY seem not worth it.

 

So much for me doing these for solo play sometimes, just too aggravating being free aim only with no

choice to turn it off or do the lower difficulty  ones but stuck on "ruthless" with free aim.

I don't mind "ruthless difficulty", if it was just the more guys but making it free aim only ruins it.

 

So there is no point in more telegram missions for me, since they are really an only do each one 'twice" deal.

Edited February 27, 2021 by Krommer

[Krommer]

1 hour ago, KatzeFive said:

Just out of curiosity - could these missions be used to make solo lobbies ?  Just for half an hour, or so - thinking, that one could make a long trader delivery, now and then ..

 

Like all solo stuff missions, no opportunity to interact with the camp stew/start a delivery/whatever (or fast travel.)

I think the only thing you can do still is turn in animals to Cripps, as you can while doing any of the solo mission stuff still.

 

 

[Direwrath]

23 minutes ago, Krommer said:

So much for me doing these for solo play sometimes, just too aggravating being free aim only with no

choice to turn it off or do the lower difficulty  ones but stuck on "ruthless" with free aim.

I don't mind "ruthless difficulty", if it was just the more guys but making it free aim only ruins it.

 

So there is no point in more telegram missions for me, since they are really an only do each one 'twice" deal.

I thought the point of these was to give us something to do when we are going solo? The difficulty is one thing and I can understand some of the reasoning behind why they are like this, but not giving players a choice on whether they want free aim or auto aim for these missions just seems like a way to discourage players from redoing them to me.

 

 

[KatzeFive]

9 hours ago, Direwrath said:

I'm not sure, it would depend on whether the camp is available to you during the mission? 

The reason for asking is, that I did a Naturalist mission some time ago - and when the mission was over (with a good result) I was the only player in the lobby .. One of my boys joined me, and we did a trader delivery together, in total peace, because all online players was absent .. When the delivery was done, the lobby started to be flooded with players again ..

 

Now I would like to know if anybody has had the same experience with missions in a solo lobby, and the lobby was being kept solo after the mission was over ?

 

I know about the stranger missions, where you are being put over in a solo lobby, but this can only be done the first time - after that, they are not a stranger anymore, and you can't use it .. I'm not interested in any kind of modding/altering the files of the game .. Only to use things that the game provides us with, intentionally or unintentionally ...

Edited February 27, 2021 by KatzeFive

[Direwrath]

15 minutes ago, KatzeFive said:

The reason for asking is, that I did a Naturalist mission some time ago - and when the mission was over (with a good result) I was the only player in the lobby .. One of my boys joined me, and we did a trader delivery together, in total peace, because all online players was absent .. When the delivery was done, the lobby started to be flooded with players again ..

 

Now I would like to know if anybody has had the same experience with missions in a solo lobby, and the lobby was being kept solo after the mission was over ?

 

I know about the stranger missions, where you are being put over in a solo lobby, but this can only be done the first time - after that, they are not a stranger anymore, and you can use it .. I'm not interested in any kind of modding/altering the files of the game .. Only to use things that the game provides us with, intentionally or unintentionally ...

It happens at times for me, usually after doing the Moonshine story missions and sometimes after going for a legendary Harriet mission. But the servers don't stay empty for too long though.

[Krommer]

3 hours ago, KatzeFive said:

The reason for asking is, that I did a Naturalist mission some time ago - and when the mission was over (with a good result) I was the only player in the lobby

 

Ah, yeah. For these I saw that sometimes VERY briefly; like I was in a solo lobby when it ended but it was only for a second.

 

Then, it destroys all of my buffs/gold cores for something like 3 times. Eat stew, take tonics, do a couple things and everything gone (lobby merged/whatever.)

Then rebuff, then it all goes away again (with lobby merging again.) Couple that, of course, with the fact that when you started the telegram mission you had

all buffs/gold cores removed when it started (as well as the stupid default weapon/whatever set up.)

Edited February 27, 2021 by Krommer

[StyxTx]

4 hours ago, Krommer said:

 

Ah, yeah. For these I saw that sometimes VERY briefly; like I was in a solo lobby when it ended but it was only for a second.

 

Then, it destroys all of my buffs/gold cores for something like 3 times. Eat stew, take tonics, do a couple things and everything gone (lobby merged/whatever.)

Then rebuff, then it all goes away again (with lobby merging again.) Couple that, of course, with the fact that when you started the telegram mission you had

all buffs/gold cores removed when it started (as well as the stupid default weapon/whatever set up.)

I don't think they will ever fix that buff removing problem. I have sent so many reports to them about that happening over the past year when lobbies switch but their solution was to increase the lobby merges. It does make using gold cores pointless anymore since you lose them within minutes after leaving camp. This is on PC. I don't know about the situation on consoles.

Edited February 27, 2021 by StyxTx

[CaliMeatWagon]

On 2/26/2021 at 3:13 PM, Krommer said:

Is there a way to turn OFF free aim? I'm on "ruthless" on outrider now, which I don't see a way to turn off?

I thought you eventually enabled free aim, at higher levels of the telegram mission, but that it wasn't FORCED.

Nothing on the web searches I did tells how, to then do it not in free aim.
 

So it puts me in the mission in "free aim", which I'm horrible at. I still managed to complete it, by pumping potent

health tonics; I'm very bad at free-aim and even have trouble hitting the horse the guy is on (this is on Xbox One, with

all sliders for moving/aiming faster at the highest.)

 

Please don't say "get better at free-aim", that is like telling someone who says they can't walk to just get

better at walking 

 

 

At lower levels, Free aim players are locked to using the aim bot.