Can't even enjoy due to griefers

[4eyedcoupe]

@L0UDM0UTH BRO, seriously, Bro.

Edited February 18, 2021 by 4eyedcoupe

[Lonely-Martin]

5 minutes ago, 4eyedcoupe said:

@L0UDM0UTH BRO, seriously, Bro.

 

The chap's all in on this in the GTA:O section too, lol. Someone needs their fish in a barrel alright.

[L0UDM0UTH]

42 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

 

The chap's all in on this in the GTA:O section too, lol. Someone needs their fish in a barrel alright.

I came here to discuss GTA but its a bunch a cupcakes on here. Since you on my jock you must have heard what I said in the other forum which is dont let me catch yall in my lobbies lol. You would see some barrels alright

[Lonely-Martin]

Just now, L0UDM0UTH said:

I came here to discuss GTA but its a bunch a cupcakes on here. Since you on my jock you must have heard what I said in the other forum which is dont let me catch yall in my lobbies lol. You would see some barrels alright

 

Yeah, I saw you trying hard to ruffle some feathers. Predictable fluff, and inevitable you'd pop over here, bless ya. 

 

You'll never catch me bubbo. I'm far too aware of your tripe that fester in these games of R*'s. I'll never be your virtual viagra.

[LunaStrky :3]

10 hours ago, Veleno said:

Defensive mode needs to be GTA's passive mode. only difference is:

allow us to PvE and no ghost effect or whatever its called on our characters/horses.

 

I thought it was, as I play GTAO in passive most of the time, you can go in peace and IF YOU WANT, you can engage with others, do sales missions in which obviously some hostile players are expected. But in RDO no, Deffensive mode just doesn't let you shot others unless they shot first, and when that happens most of the time you have no time to fire back so is always a lost case.

 

1 hour ago, L0UDM0UTH said:

So a wild west gunslinging online multiplayer game, you want to turn into a coop pve game? You literally want to avoid all players without penalty or reduced xp and just play basically by yourself. So create all this content so you can play a multiplayer game by yourself. Get outta here. Its called Red Dead Online and you create your own character and have to survive amongst other outlaws like really whats si hard about the concept. Griefing is one thing but you just want a free ride STOP IT LMAO. Its a good thing you are not making those decisions.

 

As I said, I have no problems with shooting other players, but If I want that I'd just play adversary series or something, some free roam missions requiere an offensive playstyle, and I'm ok with that if I'm doing those missions, hostile encounters are expected, but If you're on your own bussines, hunting or just exploring and you're in defensive mode it means you don't want to attack or being attacked by other players. All the times I've got killed in  deffensive always are by players with long ranged rifles, or explosive ammo/arrows. Sometimes like you said I play the game by myself just te get rid off the coward players that shoots you in the back, from a long distance where you can't defend yourself or with explosive ammo. It's sad to play an online game as a Single Player experience? YES, It's sad that the players are the reasons that others preffers playing the game by themselves? HELL YES. But that's what it is

[kcole4001]

1 hour ago, L0UDM0UTH said:

.....You literally want to avoid all players without penalty or reduced xp and just play basically by yourself.

So create all this content so you can play a multiplayer game by yourself. ....

Yes.

Exactly.

Because more often than not other people are <insert favourite expletive here>.

 

This is like playing single player without the forced story, with different content, and my own character.

That's what I want (and get), everyone else can have whatever they want, but we don't all have to participate in another person's idea of what our game should be.

I'm not forcing anyone to play solo, and no one else can force me to play with cheaters and trigger happy morons.

[L0UDM0UTH]

33 minutes ago, kcole4001 said:

Yes.

Exactly.

Because more often than not other people are <insert favourite expletive here>.

 

This is like playing single player without the forced story, with different content, and my own character.

That's what I want (and get), everyone else can have whatever they want, but we don't all have to participate in another person's idea of what our game should be.

I'm not forcing anyone to play solo, and no one else can force me to play with cheaters and trigger happy morons.

 But there would be no difference from single player mode. We have to interact with other players online for it to be multiplayer. And its balanced out only certain modes are forced coop. 

[L0UDM0UTH]

38 minutes ago, LunaStrky :3 said:

 

I thought it was, as I play GTAO in passive most of the time, you can go in peace and IF YOU WANT, you can engage with others, do sales missions in which obviously some hostile players are expected. But in RDO no, Deffensive mode just doesn't let you shot others unless they shot first, and when that happens most of the time you have no time to fire back so is always a lost case.

 

 

As I said, I have no problems with shooting other players, but If I want that I'd just play adversary series or something, some free roam missions requiere an offensive playstyle, and I'm ok with that if I'm doing those missions, hostile encounters are expected, but If you're on your own bussines, hunting or just exploring and you're in defensive mode it means you don't want to attack or being attacked by other players. All the times I've got killed in  deffensive always are by players with long ranged rifles, or explosive ammo/arrows. Sometimes like you said I play the game by myself just te get rid off the coward players that shoots you in the back, from a long distance where you can't defend yourself or with explosive ammo. It's sad to play an online game as a Single Player experience? YES, It's sad that the players are the reasons that others preffers playing the game by themselves? HELL YES. But that's what it is

I never got killed in defensive mode. But the game is a lot different since launch, there used to be no defensive mode. The game is already dead because people dont know how to interact with other players. 

[kcole4001]

1 hour ago, L0UDM0UTH said:

 But there would be no difference from single player mode. We have to interact with other players online for it to be multiplayer. And its balanced out only certain modes are forced coop. 

No.

YOU have to interact with other players.

I don't give a crap about multiplayer, or pvp, or co-op.

I want the content in MY game to play out the way I want it.

So I play solo.

 

If there was an option to play single player with your own customized character, none of the content was locked behind anything but price or maybe level, and i could travel anywhere on the map I'd do that.

But they don't let you do that, so I play RDO on my own terms, doing the things I want when and where I want.

A simple solution that greedstar won't offer players, so we have to use alternate methods.

[Direwrath]

9 hours ago, L0UDM0UTH said:

But there would be no difference from single player mode. We have to interact with other players online for it to be multiplayer. And its balanced out only certain modes are forced coop.

The only players I am actively looking to engage with are friends/family.

Sure it can be fun sometimes to meet the right players who actually want an honest gunfight in the OK Corral sort of situation, but the truth is that the players who attack defensive players are only looking to get a thrill kill and run.

And they never attack when I am in offensive and looking for some resistance?

We should get that choice to play the game however we want, R* has offered it for their other titles, why are they so determined to keep private/PVE servers away from the RDR2 online players?

 

 

7 hours ago, kcole4001 said:

9 hours ago, L0UDM0UTH said:

 But there would be no difference from single player mode. We have to interact with other players online for it to be multiplayer. And its balanced out only certain modes are forced coop. 

No.

YOU have to interact with other players.

I don't give a crap about multiplayer, or pvp, or co-op.

I want the content in MY game to play out the way I want it.

So I play solo.

 

If there was an option to play single player with your own customized character, none of the content was locked behind anything but price or maybe level, and i could travel anywhere on the map I'd do that.

But they don't let you do that, so I play RDO on my own terms, doing the things I want when and where I want.

A simple solution that greedstar won't offer players, so we have to use alternate methods.

I wholeheartedly agree with this.

I just want a sandbox that I can play in with my character. Give that to me offline and I will be happy, should I want to play with family or friends I can go online and join along in their "multiplayer" dreams.

[StyxTx]

12 hours ago, L0UDM0UTH said:

 The consensus is fine but ultimately that will never happen. And I like how you brush past 10 to 15 like that aint a lot of bodies lol. Trust bro Im fully aware about Hollywood narratives vs actual history. But this is more of a Hollywood inspired game wouldnt you say? And not to knock you bro, I’m just sayjng why not play single player or get a  consistent crew? Its supposed to be rough out there not easy

I did not say 10-15 was not a lot. I just stated they didn't kill everyone they ever ran across like some people in this game.

Edited February 19, 2021 by StyxTx

[StyxTx]

10 hours ago, L0UDM0UTH said:

 But there would be no difference from single player mode. We have to interact with other players online for it to be multiplayer. And its balanced out only certain modes are forced coop. 

Actually there is a huge difference, especially on PC. MOST of the assholes on PC are modders, not griefers, though I guess you could say they are both. Those people are not there to play. They are there to intentionally f*ck up other players game experience. Dealing with modders is nowhere near "balanced". We should not have to be constantly changing servers in order to play.

 

I also do not wish to play with 10 year old kids whose self esteem is so low they feel they have to go in a game to kill everyone in sight to make themselves feel better.

 

I don't care how people want to play.....UNTIL it interferes negatively with how I want to play. If I'm on a server full of people who don't bother me, I'm fine with that. Interact doesn't mean we have to have a damn gunfight all the time.

 

I've mentioned it before, I have CTS, and fighting wild animals and NPCs is hard enough for me, sometimes to the point I have to stop playing. Sometimes the pain I get just trying to control the horse will chase me out of the game. I don't need or want to deal with players who have nothing better to do in their lives than f*ck with others for no reason whatsoever.

 

When I play alone or with friends, and I do prefer with friends, I can control how much "action" I have to deal with. I'm also interacting with other players, my friends.

 

But R* feels everyone who plays has perfect motor skills. Why they would think that is beyond me.

 

Playing alone is not like playing the story. The story is finite. It sure doesn't have all the roles and whatever that online has. The story, you're playing another character. Online it's the one you create which is more meaningful.

Edited February 19, 2021 by StyxTx

[StyxTx]

11 hours ago, L0UDM0UTH said:

I came here to discuss GTA but its a bunch a cupcakes on here. Since you on my jock you must have heard what I said in the other forum which is dont let me catch yall in my lobbies lol. You would see some barrels alright

You can't read apparently. You want to talk about GTA but you come to the RDO area. Brilliant!

 

I love cupcakes. Donuts too. Especially the kind with the sprinkles on them. And chocolate mousse cake. Damn that is good. Icing piled on it half way to the ceiling.

11 hours ago, Lonely-Martin said:

 

Yeah, I saw you trying hard to ruffle some feathers. Predictable fluff, and inevitable you'd pop over here, bless ya. 

 

You'll never catch me bubbo. I'm far too aware of your tripe that fester in these games of R*'s. I'll never be your virtual viagra.

His name says it all really. Before I ever read anything he said I knew the type of stuff he was going to say.

Edited February 19, 2021 by StyxTx

[fuzzyballs01]

6 hours ago, StyxTx said:

I should learn how not to triple post

 

[Nerfgoth]

On 2/17/2021 at 2:00 AM, LunaStrky :3 said:

 

Well on PC I'd wish there were at least one way to argue qith them without having a Mic, It's pretty annoying to be riding through the map, minding your own bussines (Even beeing in Defensive mode, which for I can see serves no purpose) and get sniped by a d*uch*bag, I want to tell him how Idiot he is, but is like R* cutted off my character's tongue (or fingers, you know). At least in GTA you have the general chat to insult them.

 

I´m playing on Ps4 and having the bow equipped dynamite arrows  when someone starts following me. But my first line of scaring other hostile/up to no good players away is using the emote "I´m watching you!".

 

On 2/18/2021 at 4:39 AM, eighthdoctor said:

Yep and being in Defensive Mode doesn't really do anything anyway. A lot of griefers seem to take it as a challenge and go after those in Defensive. Yeah they need to work for it to be able shoot you without auto aim, but given that they can still tag/paint your horse as long as they have the PIB ability card equipped and we are on our horse 99% of the time, they can still get you that way with a dynamite arrow or explosive round. It's sh*tty. Weirdly, I think I have had more griefers go after me when I was in Defensive than in Offensive Mode over the last lot of months.

 

I think it is a possibility that because you are in offensive mode you can easily auto aim them back and that is no fun for ass-hats......

 

But mostly I have no issue with other players.....

[yeezy203]

On 2/16/2021 at 6:28 PM, Sam Doe said:

I recently started playing again after a long break and had a surreal encounter.

 

I was delivering moonshine solo while in defensive, when a player started blasting me with ex rounds. Wagon dead, cargo lost, a few kill exchange later he sends me a novel explaining that because of PVE players we would not get more updates and that I was responsible as a role player. 

 

Tried to tell him about business 101 (i.e = sales numbers mean updates and rdr sure doesnt sell as much as gta, even worse for the gtao/rdr comparison) 

 

Im still bugged about his way of thinking

 

That guy probably looked like this. That logic makes no sense at all.

[eighthdoctor]

On 2/16/2021 at 11:28 PM, Sam Doe said:

I recently started playing again after a long break and had a surreal encounter.

 

I was delivering moonshine solo while in defensive, when a player started blasting me with ex rounds. Wagon dead, cargo lost, a few kill exchange later he sends me a novel explaining that because of PVE players we would not get more updates and that I was responsible as a role player. 

 

Tried to tell him about business 101 (i.e = sales numbers mean updates and rdr sure doesnt sell as much as gta, even worse for the gtao/rdr comparison) 

 

Im still bugged about his way of thinking

That idiot is nothing but a toxic griefer looking to blame you for his boredom & holding you responsible for his own pathetic entertainment instead of him playing something else. His way of thinking there is absolute b*llocks. His fault, not yours!

[StyxTx]

14 hours ago, eighthdoctor said:

That idiot is nothing but a toxic griefer looking to blame you for his boredom & holding you responsible for his own pathetic entertainment instead of him playing something else. His way of thinking there is absolute b*llocks. His fault, not yours!

Yup. That logic of playing a game you're bored with (and f*cking with other players who are trying to enjoy the game) rather than just find one you enjoy is befuddling.

 

They fall into the category of a kid/adult kid who needs to bolster their low self esteem by killing people in a game because in real life they are getting picked on every time they step out the door. You can picture them, skinny as rails and scared of their own shadows.

Edited February 20, 2021 by StyxTx

[KatzeFive]

Somehow RDO is a strange game .. Kind of schizophrenic - they made a online game, apparently with the intend of bringing PvP in focus (they did kind of succeed with this goal) - but at the same time brought in these roles, where grinding and long hours of repetitive action is the way to succes .. The mix is odd, as these two game styles will and do collide - because those who like PvP often dont like the tedious grinding (trader, moonshiner, naturalist) that is the preferred part of the game other kind of players like..

 

I'll give you my story (as short as I can) how me and my two sons plays this game ..

 

I'm 53 (rank 113) and play this game with a minimum of PvP - I'm not good at it, and do not care.. I'm grinding my way through Trader, Collector and Naturalist, and do love it .. The short interactions with NPC's is a part of it all, but I seldom even kills NPC's, unless I have to, in order to obtain my main goal .. If online players do attack me, I'm nearly always changing server .. 

 

My oldest son is 26 (rank 85) and plays a lot like me, but do enjoy a good PvP now and then .. He rarely shoots first, but fights back when shot at, and can more often than not, give them a run for their money ..

 

And then there is my youngest son at 21 (rank 139) who is so different from me (must be his mothers genes) He is a beast at PvP (played a lot of CS:GO and those kind of games) so he moves around like a cat on a hot metal roof, never standing still, taking tonics and cooked meat a long his way - so deadly in this game, and so hard to kill .. Unfortunately these skills brings up a kind of not being challenged by the game (he does his bounty stuff, and trader things) but NPC's are too weak for him - when doing trader supply runs, he often has the NPC's killed before I even are finished talking to Cripps .. So he has a tendency to try and pick a fight with any online player he meets, just to see if they can end up in a gunfight (or his latest is fistfighting in towns)

 

I dont blame the game - it is his choice to play as a good or bad player - I'm constantly trying to drag him in another playstyle direction, telling him to find players who like to fight, or take on large posses on his own .. He has begun to play a bit different lately, warning players about his intends, before unleashing hell upon them (that is a start) But it is sometimes hard for him to find qualified resistance - last day he took on a 5 man strong posse (rank 450 to 110 roughly) and scored 50 kills on them, only being killed 10 times back - they ended up leaving the server all 5 of them ..

 

I wouldn't call him a griefer (had my fair share of those, and also ran in to af few modders/hackers - griefers, are what they are - but hackers are the worst.. I do hate this cheating/modding..) But I cant deny he is a bully sometimes .. On the other hand he isn't whining when other players are blowing his trader wagon to kingdom come - this is to be expected, when you do this yourself ..

 

Apart from all this, I do enjoy the full advantage of his and his brothers PvP skills - whenver I meet a bully or a griefer, I ask them to join my posse, and blow the bastard in to the next county .. The griefer often ends up leaving the session, and I can get on grinding ..

 

So - the game is kind of leading players in all kind of directions - and sometimes these directions lead up to unwanted behavior from some players .. I wont defend them, and hate this as much as anyone else - but the game is so confused in which direction the action is wanted, and some players are so much more skilled than others, that some of us mostly are biting the dust with no reason at all .. This should/could be adressed by the game developer, where those who prefer PvP can meet, murdering eachother as much as they want - leaving the rest of us alone, in our grinding universe ..

[StyxTx]

23 minutes ago, KatzeFive said:

This should/could be adressed by the game developer, where those who prefer PvP can meet, murdering eachother as much as they want - leaving the rest of us alone, in our grinding universe ..

We've discussed different servers for different player types many times. For some reason R* doesn't like the idea.

[Faltskogian]

There's always one to ruin me fun, take today for some reason a player ran up to me and placed a (obviously) dead deer on the back of my horse then just as i got through saying thanks he shot seven shades of shinola outta me!

 

 

 

 

Edited February 23, 2021 by Faltskogian

[KatzeFive]

3 hours ago, Faltskogian said:

There's always one to ruin me fun, take today for some reason a player ran up to me and placed a (obviously) dead deer on the back of my horse then just as i got through saying thanks he shot seven shades of shinola outta me!

 

Never tried that .. It may be because I would never let a unknown player get so close to me - and that is what it has come to (for my part) .. I'm so nervous about other players intentions, that I'm always loading my Winchester (Lancaster) my Navy's and my shotgun with explosive ammo, when not hunting or doing missions where NPC's are my target .. If a player gets to close, and has any weapon drawn, or draws any weapon as they approach me, I'm gonna aim any weapon I have drawn at the moment, at the player - if this doesn't stop them getting near me, I'm firing away ..

 

I have been suckerpunched a couple of times - Once shot in the back, when a player spawned in Blackwater, followed me out of town, and cut me down (I was in defensive) - And oddly enough, the same thing almost happened today (deja vu) - a player followed me out of Blackwater, the same road as when I was "cheap killed" .. This time my Criollo "Spot On Girl" was too fast for the pursuer, so he or her gave up - but later I was thinking about, if the player only wanted to exchange emotes .. Here is where text chat, or something else, that would stop us non-PvP'er from suspecting all other players just want to kill us, could be nice ..

 

But lately I think it seems to be a bit more calm in RDO .. Today I had three online players who got near, but not too close (no weapon drawn, although I had my Winchester out) and made an emote (it was emote day)

 

All other players I have seen, steered clear of me - never got near - and I was also keeping a distance to them .. But maybe I'm just lucky at the moment .. Got the "Igugu Cougar" today - Made of course a coat out of it - Miss Davenport can wait, or maybe she never gets a sample - She sprays me almost every time (wonder why .. )

 

Edit:

 

This is maybe what you need :

 

Edited February 24, 2021 by KatzeFive

[aaronBLUEeyes]

I rarely have an issue with public free roam griefing.

 

About 2/3rds of the time our posse is together — but even when I’m alone it’s not much of an issue for me.

 

I play on Xbox, what platform are you playing on?

Edited February 24, 2021 by aaronBLUEeyes

[KatzeFive]

Oh dear .. What a day..

 

Just said yesterday, that griefers seems to be absent in RDO (PC) at the moment - oh yeah, there still here...

 

We had two deliveries (trader) today, and the first went fine ..... Number two went okay, we even met 5 or 6 online players, but none of them paid any attention to us ... But, 50 yards before we hit the yellow marker at the delivery point two online players suddenly appeared, hiding amongst the NPC's that was in the classic gunfight at the delivery spot .. One of my boys was suddenly shouting "ONLINE PLAYERS" - and we had not seen them before they emerged in front of us .. Next thing that happen was, the trader wagon was blown to pieces by a dynamite arrow, and all hell broke loose .. I'm not good at PvP, but managed to kill one of them, by emptying BOTH my Navy's from close range in to him  (I thought) .. He took 12 bullets, but did not die .. Well, I took a dynamite arrow right after, and died in an instant ..

 

The boys would not give in, and started to kill the two attackers, getting them to spawn further and further away .. They boys did get killed a lot too, but managed by working toghether, to drive them back .. I was charged with the task (being the worst PvP'er) to salvage what was left of the goods (it was not my cargo, it was one of the boys) and he wanted to continue the fight, and told me to deliver what was left ..

 

Then they fought with the two attackers up the hills, and I was able to look them up in the players list - they was from the same country, a western european country (not eastern) But not going to tell which .. They were Rank 400+, and one of them was actually very close to Rank 500 ..

 

The attackers was on their heels - only managing to keep my boys away with dynamite arrows, and when they suddenly didn't have any more of them, they got beaten badly  - actually they cought one of the attackers with bolas, and killed him instantly after ..

 

Then the fun part started - they did not want to talk over the mic, so they sent a lot of messages, accusing us for cheating, and that they had made a video they would send to Rockstar .. Well, okay - You do that .. We dont cheat, so just send away ..

 

What is my main goal with this story (that happened only a "Deadpool 2" movie away ..) Well, first of all - griefers are still out there - yes, I think they were griefers, as they did not want the cargo, they just wanted to blow the wagon to atomic waste .. They were also cowards, hiding among the NPC's - instead of trying to take us on in the open .. And yes, they did kill our horses several times, as a true diehard griefer always does - And when they was beaten in PvP skills, they shouted cheater ..

 

They also switched to being blue, before the fight was over (can you do that ?) and even more mysterious, when the fight was coming to a halt, one of the boys was killed, and the game was shut down on his computer (??) Could just have been a game fault - but never seen this before ..

 

So - what to say ... The boys had a good fight (I think) - a bit sorry for the loss of some of the goods ..

 

I will end this story with saying; that it's not the game that is bad - it's the players that inhabit the game world that have a bad approach to the game .. The boys thought is was okay with the attack, although the way it was done was a bit sneaky - but then the attackers were beaten, and turned in to bad loosers .. Oh dear ..

 

 

Edited February 26, 2021 by KatzeFive

[Ragnar Stalheim]

On 2/16/2021 at 9:18 PM, CosmicBuffalo said:

I wish there were more griefers.

Were you playing when it was in beta? I think it was worse than GTA. Total murderfest.

[Direwrath]

42 minutes ago, Ragnar Stalheim said:

Were you playing when it was in beta? I think it was worse than GTA. Total murderfest.

You are correct on that one. Back then the griefers would literally chase you across the map because they could see where you were. I had a posse of seven chase me and my husband relentlessly until another posse stepped in and helped us out. 

 

Although I miss the many times players would congregate in towns and have brawls in the saloons and streets. Not meant to be griefing, but just plain fun, rambunctious ways we would find something to do.

 

I have video of a town full of players in Blackwater just crawling on top of the buildings and trying to jump on light poles and balconies we cannot normally reach. Stupid antics but lots of fun.

 

 

4 hours ago, KatzeFive said:

Then the fun part started - they did not want to talk over the mic, so they sent a lot of messages, accusing us for cheating, and that they had made a video they would send to Rockstar .. Well, okay - You do that .. We dont cheat, so just send away ..

They were probably trying to get you to say something that they could send to R* to get you banned, I've had sore losers try the same with me. 

[Krommer]

1 hour ago, Direwrath said:

You are correct on that one. Back then the griefers would literally chase you across the map because they could see where you were. I had a posse of seven chase me and my husband relentlessly until another posse stepped in and helped us out. 

 

Yeah, I loved fishing in single player so was under Bacchus Bridge right away fishing for salmon (especially after discovering how much Salmon sold for at the time! (nerfed later, but

initially about the best way to make money in the early beta.))

I still remember how it was around the start of the beta, where I'm out there fishing for salmon and guy comes up and kills me from behind; people were making

videos of them doing stuff like that at the time (shotgun blast to the back of the head, of some poor soul just out fishing...)

 

I think about the decision of that player, seeing my "blue dot" just sitting still on the map for some time; then that player decides to go ALL THE WAY 

out where I am, just to kill me when it looks like I'm doing something like fishing. Of course, there wasn't a lot to do in the game back then 

 

 

I never do "Long Distance" deliveries, unless the wagon has "one" or so "goods" and it is very obviously the tiniest wagon

for the "distance traveled by wagon 15000/whatever" daily; so no one EVER messes with my sales or junk.

If my wagon is full, or even half or so, it is just a local delivery. If the daily is only for long distance, but NOT in wagon, the wagon

gets blown up and the 1-10 goods (one bag) is just on my horse where I especially have never had a player mess with me.

 

This is on Xbox, where mostly no one ever messes with me if I even SEE another player, mostly in the Hennington's Stead area, which seems delightfully unpopular!

 

Also remember "Wilderness Camp" is a GREAT "quick griefer escape." 

You can pop it from your menu pretty fast, with it instantly moving you a bit away from where you were and you can rapidly 

select travelling somewhere. There are some places where it might not be available, but it often has been the few times I've used 

it to escape.

 

I've also been going to minimize the possibility of encountering players more one day by just doing Legendary Bounty, Legendary Animal/Harriet and Telegram missions

then revolving back around as each cools down.

Edited February 26, 2021 by Krommer

[StyxTx]

On 2/22/2021 at 10:55 AM, KatzeFive said:

Somehow RDO is a strange game .. Kind of schizophrenic - they made a online game, apparently with the intend of bringing PvP in focus (they did kind of succeed with this goal) - but at the same time brought in these roles, where grinding and long hours of repetitive action is the way to succes .. The mix is odd, as these two game styles will and do collide - because those who like PvP often dont like the tedious grinding (trader, moonshiner, naturalist) that is the preferred part of the game other kind of players like..

 

I'll give you my story (as short as I can) how me and my two sons plays this game ..

 

I'm 53 (rank 113) and play this game with a minimum of PvP - I'm not good at it, and do not care.. I'm grinding my way through Trader, Collector and Naturalist, and do love it .. The short interactions with NPC's is a part of it all, but I seldom even kills NPC's, unless I have to, in order to obtain my main goal .. If online players do attack me, I'm nearly always changing server .. 

 

My oldest son is 26 (rank 85) and plays a lot like me, but do enjoy a good PvP now and then .. He rarely shoots first, but fights back when shot at, and can more often than not, give them a run for their money ..

 

And then there is my youngest son at 21 (rank 139) who is so different from me (must be his mothers genes) He is a beast at PvP (played a lot of CS:GO and those kind of games) so he moves around like a cat on a hot metal roof, never standing still, taking tonics and cooked meat a long his way - so deadly in this game, and so hard to kill .. Unfortunately these skills brings up a kind of not being challenged by the game (he does his bounty stuff, and trader things) but NPC's are too weak for him - when doing trader supply runs, he often has the NPC's killed before I even are finished talking to Cripps .. So he has a tendency to try and pick a fight with any online player he meets, just to see if they can end up in a gunfight (or his latest is fistfighting in towns)

 

I dont blame the game - it is his choice to play as a good or bad player - I'm constantly trying to drag him in another playstyle direction, telling him to find players who like to fight, or take on large posses on his own .. He has begun to play a bit different lately, warning players about his intends, before unleashing hell upon them (that is a start) But it is sometimes hard for him to find qualified resistance - last day he took on a 5 man strong posse (rank 450 to 110 roughly) and scored 50 kills on them, only being killed 10 times back - they ended up leaving the server all 5 of them ..

 

I wouldn't call him a griefer (had my fair share of those, and also ran in to af few modders/hackers - griefers, are what they are - but hackers are the worst.. I do hate this cheating/modding..) But I cant deny he is a bully sometimes .. On the other hand he isn't whining when other players are blowing his trader wagon to kingdom come - this is to be expected, when you do this yourself ..

 

Apart from all this, I do enjoy the full advantage of his and his brothers PvP skills - whenver I meet a bully or a griefer, I ask them to join my posse, and blow the bastard in to the next county .. The griefer often ends up leaving the session, and I can get on grinding ..

 

So - the game is kind of leading players in all kind of directions - and sometimes these directions lead up to unwanted behavior from some players .. I wont defend them, and hate this as much as anyone else - but the game is so confused in which direction the action is wanted, and some players are so much more skilled than others, that some of us mostly are biting the dust with no reason at all .. This should/could be adressed by the game developer, where those who prefer PvP can meet, murdering eachother as much as they want - leaving the rest of us alone, in our grinding universe ..

Just a tip on those deliveries. Stupid me didn't realize this for a long time. Maybe everyone else isn't as stupid as I was.

 

If there is an NPC battle going on you can take the wagon into the yellow and get off to fight the NPCs. The delivery won't officially register as completed till all NPCs are dead but since the wagon has technically been delivered you won't have to move it once the fight is done.

 

Whether it's safe from other players?

Edited February 26, 2021 by StyxTx

[aaronBLUEeyes]

10 hours ago, Ragnar Stalheim said:

Were you playing when it was in beta? I think it was worse than GTA. Total murderfest.

I concur, before R* removed global player dots across the map during beta — you could be minding your own business fishing out in the middle of nowhere and a posse could see you from across the map and ride right to you to grief the sh*t out of you.

 

Myself and allot of players back 5hen asked Rockstar to remove the global player dots, thank God they listened.

[roggek]

Today i has played 10 hours straight and not come across any kind of griefers at all. In defensive mode (which sometimes triggers griefers or tryhards!)

And my main purpose was collecting herbs to the doctor, so I just strolled around on my horsse collecting herbs, in the vincinity of Valentine all day. And i had no encounter at all with anyone!

 

RDO played on XBox is probably the nicest and calmest playerbase (of course there is asshats here too) on RDO, what so ever.

Sure i was killed several times today in Valentine, by lawmen, but that was I who started the fight with them.

 

So I say again: The biggest mistake was R* making RDO for PC!

Edited February 26, 2021 by roggek