GTA Trilogy Definitive Edition Speculation Topic

[Spider-Vice]

Given the commotion in the GTA Online DLC thread which is detracting from the normal (although already not always productive...) discussion there, and what some news sites have been reporting, let's use this topic to discuss the possibility of a GTA trilogy remaster.

[Classique]

Oh boy I can't wait to hear "all you had to do was to follow that damn train, CJ" in better quality!

[VCPR Official]

IMO not gonna happen due to R* concetrating on MMOs, for SP experience T2 will have 2K brand

[Uncle Sikee Atric]

Just now, Classique said:

Oh boy I can't wait to hear "all you had to do was to follow that damn train, CJ" in better quality!

 

And 4K remasters of :

 

[ivarblaauw]

If the remasters/remakes are true there are a few options R* can go:

 

1. A HD texture and lightning update for the old games. Simple yet effective. Controls need to be updated. Game still feels old due to the differences in 20 years of level design. No online component.

 

2. Remake as in Mafia 1. Games ported to the new RAGE engine and reworked from the ground up. Voice lines possibly rerecorded and controls as well. Won't feature an online component (unlikely).

 

3. Remake just the maps and release them as 'dlc' for GTA Online 2.0. I see them releasing San Andreas with the E&E edition of GTA. The other two as seperate purchasable packs over the next few years. Focus on Online. Sharkcard sales hejjjjjj Basically the thing Fortnite, Warzone, Apex and Pubg are doing right now. 

 

4. Remake the games for online and add the story into it for SP. Both Sharkcards as SP sales. 

 

With all of these except the first, VI will be much further away than we used to think. If they are being remade, GTA Online 2.0 is probably released along the E&E edition, marking a new era for GTA into the new RAGE engine. Don't expect GTA VI in the next 5 years. 

 

I expect either 3 or 4, why? Some reasons:

- Take2 knows how popular the Mafia 1 remaster is and sold

- the new RAGE engine already features all environmental assets and prefabs needed for the areas. (Trees, biomes, foliage, animals, rocks, etc.)

- Building lists ready to use is massive. RDR, GTA, Mafia and Max Payne have thousands of buildings ready to go, most just need a simple texture update to be used in the game if they aren't on par already. (I know Mafia ain't from R*, but I have seen enough assets (trees, clutter, foliage) in Mafia 1 and Mafia 3 which are just exact the same as seen in RDR2 or GTA V. 

- Expanded and Enhanced is announced, but no gameplay shown. There must be something huge, otherwise they wouldn't hide it imo

- 'Expanded', this can either be interiors as exteriors.

- 'Enhanced', the weight, food, sleep system of RDR2 in GTA? Basically paves the way for a San Andreas remake.

- expanding the Online map will make them billions every year, since even old players who stopped will return. Plus the game needs to be bought again for the E&E edition. Profits easily outweigh the costs. Plus more time to work on VI.

- code already shows that we need to transfer our characters again. This most likely means there is a significant engine update.

Edited February 14 by ivarblaauw

[Guest]

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[Zello]

Is it just the Trilogy or the entire 3D era? I want the stories games to get remastered.

[iPeluche]

Hopefully, we got a teaser today and a reveal Tuesday.

 

Really excited to see how this trilogy will be beautiful with Unreal Engine.

[Zello]

1 minute ago, iPeluche said:

Hopefully, we got a teaser today and a reveal Tuesday.

 

Really excited to see how this trilogy will be beautiful with Unreal Engine.

Why would Rockstar use the unreal engine when they already have their own engine RAGE?

Edited February 14 by Zello

[DeltaV20]

7 minutes ago, Zello said:

Is it just the Trilogy or the entire 3D era? I want the stories games to get remastered.

i want gta london 1969 remake  , dats 2D btw 

[WanteD1]

I guess 
It will be called GTA Trilogy Definitive Edition
Announcement: March
GTA III will be a remake like Mafia 1! VC and SA will be a remaster but everyone will like it with Ray Tracing and some enhancement! 

[0909090]

I am not too happy about it. The games are a product of their time and any substantial improvements (even a mere remaster) would ruin them for me and many other people who have played these games back in the day. That said Rockstar Dundee is working on multiple times for some time now, and some kind of a remaster is definitely possibility. I just expected they would chose to remaster RDR or GTA IV instead not III trilogy. Something is coming for sure that is certain.

A full remake similar to Mafia  is something Rockstar wouldn't do, I believe they still understand that would ruin the games completely. So I would expect a re-release with some quality of life improvements. Not really interested in it, and I hope they will keep the original games still available on all platforms they are on now.

[Zello]

Heres the thing though Remaster or remake? They both have different meanings. What if it's like the upcoming Mass Effect remaster where they only changed a few things.

 

 

Edited February 14 by Zello

[DeltaV20]

Even if Rockstar remaked the 3D games , people will ask for another remakes after years , or maybe after GTA VI or Bully 2 is released or any other game , the games will be drastically changed , the feeling of playing SA remake will be different than the 2004 SA , the gameplay mechanics etc 

Edited February 14 by DeltaV20

[LodwigRedemption]

16 minutes ago, 0909090 said:

I am not too happy about it. The games are a product of their time and any substantial improvements (even a mere remaster) would ruin them for me and many other people who have played these games back in the day.

Not really. Actually, not at all. If they're just remasters they're going to be basically the same games but with better graphics, so that every long-time fan is going to be happy and every new player is going to experience the games as they were intended to, just with more bearable visuals. On the other hand, if they're remakes, well it's on you if you feel like they ruined the original games, because those are always gonna stay there remake or not. By definition, a remake is another game, just like the remake of X movie is a whole other movie from the one it's based upon. If you see it this way, the only way to get disappointed is for you to assume that you are going to like the remakes as you liked the originals, but that doesn't always happen. TLDR: Don't treat remakes as replacements for the originals

Edited February 14 by LodwigRedemption

[Orthur]

So.. it's happening? I mean, Anyone here really believing that it's gonna happen? I'm just curious and definitely do not want to be disappointed.

[fryday]

I would Like the old Maps remastered in one big  online Session .

 

Keep the Singleplayer Classic and dont Touch it

[Zello]

Just now, Orthur The Boah said:

So.. it's happening? I mean, Anyone here really believing that it's gonna happen? I'm just curious and definitely do not want to be disappointed.

I don't know it could also just as well end up being another "march" situation like last year.

[Orthur]

Just now, Zello said:

I don't know it could also just as well end up being another "march" situation like last year.

That's what I fear, I definitely do not want to be pissed off again... My heart is already broken from getting hopes up too many times that I don't want to believe anything unless there's an official announcement. But this rumour, it's so interesting, and something I'd(we all would) love to see so I want to believe this so much lmao.

[DeltaV20]

Remaster =  Netflix adaptation 
Remake    = Clone with modern tech 

[Dourvas]

35 minutes ago, Zello said:

Heres the thing though Remaster or remake? They both have different meanings. What if it's like the upcoming Mass Effect remaster where they only changed a few things.

 

 

Well they oldest the game, the more radical the changes are going to be.

 

If they release a remaster it HAS to be different than those already released on the psn/modern consoles.

Countless graphical mods exist (for the pc) so yeah if they are going to do it, they would probably remake the games from scratch.

Otherwise what is the point of re-release?

It sounds too good to be true though..

But if they are going to do it, that's the way imo.

 

 

Btw do you guys remember the arcadia squad San Andreas unreal engine remake last summer? (It was created for machinima purposes btw)

 

Take Two took their trailer down... Strange if you ask me...

Edited February 14 by Dourvas

[Schuimpruim]

At this point I think `EVERYWHERƎ` releases sooner than GTAVI or a good remaster.

[DeltaV20]

One thing to keep in mind , even if theres remake of all 3 games , they will still be in 3D era with 3D universe maps (not the 2013 los santos , the 3D 1992 los santos is very different than the HD universe los santos) 

(theres 3 clones of each cities , one in 2D , 3D and in HD ) 

[0909090]

4 minutes ago, LodwigRedemption said:

Not really. Actually, not at all. If they're just remasters they're going to be basically the same games but with better graphics, so that every long-time fan is going to be happy and every new player is going to experience the games as they were intended to, just with more bearable visuals. 

A remaster does not always come out as a better game than the original. Just take a look at GTA San Andreas remaster for X360 and PS3 (similar version is on mobile). A lot of people agree that the game doesn't look better and it what's more it brought a lot of other problems that weren't present in the original. Take a look at this video:

It's not just bugs. It's debatable that the game looks any better in any aspect, really. Of course there is a chance that a remaster will bring just minor improvements, and in that case it may turn out great. But I doubt that's the case, Rockstar Dundee is working on some projects for quite some time and if it's this III trilogy, it's gonna be more substantial than a re-release with very minor improvements.

 

13 minutes ago, LodwigRedemption said:

On the other hand, if they're remakes, well it's on you if you feel like they ruined the original games, because those are always gonna stay there remake or not. By definition, a remake is another game, just like the remake of X movie is a whole other movie from the one it's based upon. If you see it this way, the only way to get disappointed is for you to assume that you are going to like the remakes as you liked the originals, but that doesn't always happen.

A remake would mean an updated map, updated mocap, voice acting etc. it's not going to happen. Resident Evil 2 for example perfectly fits with modern RE games because every aspect of that game is updated and reworked. If GTA received a remake, it would mean a complete rework of combat mechanics, map, mocap, and even writing to bring it up to the standard of modern R* games. It just won't happen. If that happened, it would be a completely new game, and there wouldn't be any point in making that. The "remake", depending on the level of the rework, would either ruin the original or be a completely different game, nearly unrecognisable from the original. I think Rockstar understands that and given their very sporadic release schedule they wouldn't want to focus on a remake of an old game instead of making a new game.

[Orthur]

1 minute ago, Dourvas said:

Well they oldest the game, the more radical the changes are going to be.

 

If they release a remaster it HAS to be different that those already released on the psn. Also countless graphical mods exist (for the pc) so yeah if they are going to do it, they would probably remake the entirety of those games. Otherwise what's the point?

 

 

Btw do you guys remember the arcadia squad San Andreas unreal engine remake last summer? (It was created for machinima purposes btw)

 

Take Two took their trailer down... Strange if you ask me...

Well tbh I'm perfectly fine with a PC and Next Gen remaster that's proper and not half assed like the current versions, Where VC didn't even open without using mods in my PC for some reason, not to mention countless game breaking bugs still present after nearly 20 years. If they just fix all of those bugs and made them into one package, with support for 4k & uncapped framrates, I'd be down.

 

Also, Just to note, Take Two has took down a lot of things and I don't think it's anything significant.

[DeltaV20]

2 minutes ago, 0909090 said:

 

 

i'm pretty sure that , Rockstar North didn't remastered gta Sa , this version of gta SA is more like a based vaseline pie , lets hope Rockstar dundee will not do that bullsh!t , anyone knows who worked on mobile ports / remasters for 10th anniversary ? 

i mean which subsidiary 

[Zello]

2 minutes ago, DeltaV20 said:

i'm pretty sure that , Rockstar North didn't remastered gta Sa , this version of gta SA is more like a based vaseline pie , lets hope Rockstar dundee will not do that bullsh!t , anyone knows who worked on mobile ports / remasters for 10th anniversary ? 

i mean which subsidiary 

They outsourced them to War drum studios 

[WELLGAMER789]

 

 

Was it in those posts where the hints started? ( Click to be redirected to the post showing the image, I don't know why they don't appear here. )

Edited February 14 by WELLGAMER789

[0909090]

8 minutes ago, DeltaV20 said:

i'm pretty sure that , Rockstar North didn't remastered gta Sa

Yeah, if they wanted to do something like a complete re-imagining of III trilogy, I am sure they wouldn't outsource it to some (at the time) third party studio.

[DeltaV20]

and now it's also pretty clear that R* dundee will do that stuff