Most boring gta of all time

[Americana]

I haven't played Red Dead Redemption 2 yet, but is it really boring, or is it just like Grand Theft Auto IV, so it's immersive, has good characters and good locations, but people can't play as naked CJ, so they say it's boring?

Edited February 4, 2021 by Americana

[billiejoearmstrong8]

20 minutes ago, Americana said:

I haven't played Red Dead Redemption 2 yet, but is it really boring, or is it just like Grand Theft Auto IV, so it's immersive, has good characters and good locations, but people can't play as naked CJ, so they say it's boring?

 

It has those aspects of IV, great writing and setting etc and it's immersive and slow paced in an enjoyable way. It does also have quite restrictive gameplay in missions a la GTA V (although RDR1 kind of did as well to be fair) and there's kind of a lot of stuff to upkeep and certain aspects of that could feel like a chore to some people. But I think most people who say it's boring just aren't into the slow paced/more grounded thing and if you like GTA IV and/or RDR1 you'd probably like it.

[JaeDan 101]

This guy is a GTA 5 lover and he is a GTA IV hater

 

maybe @Nayden burns just loved GTA 5 because of the graphics

 

Here is what he said in his "iGTA5" thread:

On 1/23/2021 at 12:24 AM, Nayden burns said:

It is one most entertaining products in history. It made billions. It has one of the best single player stories ever and the game is more addicting than any other game you can think of. Gta online is the greatest online mode of all time. Gta online is also addicting and better than any online mode you can think of. Gta v has such a special place in my heart and it will always be the number one best selling game and most addictive game

 

 

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It has one of the best single player stories ever

@Nayden burns seemed just liked the story because it has rapelling and hacking missions, it seems like he don't give a sh*t of the MAIN STORY, he gives a sh*t about the mission scenarios

Edited February 9, 2021 by JaeDan 101

[BossFF007]

On 1/28/2021 at 5:16 AM, FanEu7 said:

Your problem is that GTA didn't stay a lighthearted & cartoony power fantasy and instead became a gritty crime drama that tackles serious themes. I think your type really limits the series, GTA has a lot more potential as GTA IV showed but because of the backlash we will only get goofy stories from now...and somehow you still whine anyway (lots of 3D era fans dislike GTA V which is amusing since it was basically made for you lol)

See, you're only proving my point even more. If you haven't already noticed, I have no problem with GTA IV, the only thing that bothers me is the depressing feel. Something like that should be on a Soap Opera, but of course, I get slayed when I voice my opinion on the precious GTA IV Videogame because people like you cry when anyone says something about aforementioned game. When did I ever "whine over a goofy game"? You're just putting words in my mouth at this point, I'd rather not debate with you, until you give me valid evidence against my original points instead of complaining on how I gave a valid reason to not like the atmosphere of your precious game. It will probably be the people like you prasing GTA V, once GTA VI comes out.

[BossFF007]

It also annoys me how a lot GTA IV fans assume, just because we can't do what we could in SA or V, we call it a "bad game". It literally has nothing to do with that. Then when we try to explain, we get killed by everyone, there are only a select few of the fans who understand our point of view, this is why we don't bother debating with the majority of fans because you have people like above (person I quoted), who take things out of context and make it as if we hate the game. And you have people who take any minor criticism to heart.

Edited February 9, 2021 by BossFF007

[Dr Busta]

45 minutes ago, BossFF007 said:

It also annoys me how a lot GTA IV fans assume, just because we can't do what we could in SA or V, we call it a "bad game". It literally has nothing to do with that. Then when we try to explain, we get killed by everyone, there are only a select few of the fans who understand our point of view, this is why we don't bother debating with the majority of fans because you have people like above (person I quoted), who take things out of context and make it as if we hate the game. And you have people who take any minor criticism to heart.

Yeah you pretty much made your point " you don't like it because you don't like depressing stories"( I respect your Opinion of course) mean I like dark stories but it's not an impose to like dark and depressing stories 

Not everyone is interested in this kind of stories and that's something that most of GTA 4 fanboys don't get 

They kinda remind me of batman fanboys I am a fan of the character but I hate how most of the character's fanboys keep whining in front of other character's fans about how they are not mature enough to understand batman's depressing and dark stories.

I mean all of what the guy did is having a different taste from you.

Edited February 9, 2021 by DR:BUSTA

[BossFF007]

14 minutes ago, DR:BUSTA said:

Yeah you pretty much made your point " you don't like it because you don't like depressing stories"I mean I like dark stories but it's not an impose to like dark and depressing stories 

Not everyone is interested in this kind of stories and that's something that most of GTA 4 fanboys don't get 

They kinda remind me of batman fanboys I am a fan of the character but I hate how most of the character's fanboys keep whining in front of other character's fans about how they are not mature enough to understand batman's depressing and dark stories.

I mean all of what the guy did is having a different taste from you.

Exactly what I'm trying to say, they act as if no other GTA story exist outside of GTA IV. It gets tedious having to explain to why we are not as fond of the story/atmosphere when talking to them, because you get bashed left, right and centre.

Edited February 9, 2021 by BossFF007

[Dr Busta]

5 minutes ago, BossFF007 said:

Exactly what I'm trying to say, they act as if no other GTA story exist outside of GTA IV. It gets tedious having to explain to why we are not as fond of the story/atmosphere when talking to them, because you get bashed left, right and centre.

I actually enjoy the story and the atmosphere of it atleast during my second playthrough because before it I felt like it's just GTA 3 over again since all the missions seemed to be about working for someone and not doing anything for yourself but after playing it knowing the full story I enjoyed it and I think that's why some people don't like it since they played it once and they were like I am just a generic hitman(that's why I don't like the Italian Mafia arc because Niko became literally a generic hitman)

And yeah they make you feel like GTA 4's story is the scale of how good a story is and if it's not a perspective thing.

What is really annoying is how some of them have Zero respect to the other games in the series  

I mean even if you hate the whole series except for GTA 4 . Have some respect to the other games and the lore of the series.

[Jinx.]

I'm not a fan of the game by a long shot, I like some aspects of it and I dislike others, but jesus I loathe and despise it's fanbase. Maybe things would be different if the mods didn't lock all threads criticizing the game back when the game launched. In fact I'm glad that Drunken Cowboy dude is not around here anymore, because he 100% is also one of the reason this place became what it is. Now it grew and it's full of pretentious "fans of the GTA series" that use the same buzzwords when talking about how "good" the game is or how GTA shouldn't be goofy anymore despite it being the case for GTA 2 and the entirety of the 3D Era. And don't even dare to criticize the game or you will be labeled as a "troll" by every drone on this section. What's that? I can criticize GTA V  as much as I want because GTA V is not canon now go be a troll somewhere else. And this is not all, by a long shot. They will find a reson to defend IV's lack of content cause "it wouldn't work with Niko" while more or less dismiss all girlfriends as "not suitable for Niko" because of how they are written. They will talk about how GTA IV was a change to the franchise while crapping on GTA V for not focusing on criminal organizations. Yes, GTA V is also full of issues like story or lack of interior etc, cut content and stuff not backported from older games, but that doesn't give any right to the same bunch of users to go in the V section (and even outside the forums!!! I bet if you visit Darkflame's videos or any place on the internet you'll see B Dawg posting his list from his profile) and do what they cry about. Algonquin Assassin and KGBeast already said that people have a hardon for hating this game even after 13 years. Meanwhile users here have GTA V living rent free in their head for almost 10 years despite it being disliked by the fans, with a truck load of seething about Johnny's death, and no, it still being sold on new consoles doesn't mean Rockstar cares about the game. The only reason it even got on PS5 is because of GTA Online, which was always bundled with the game. They didn't even add anything to SP for a long time and I doubt they will care about it either. And I'm sure GTA V will become less popular with Online becoming standalone.

 

Say whatever you want about the game but it is in no way "dark" and "depressing" just because of the colors or certain moments in the game. It's still full of satire just like the 3D Era games, it's still full of jokes, just like billyjoearmstrong8 said here. A lot of people just go ahead and parrot what youtubers and ecelebs like Gypsy, Badger or whatever any of them say, without going in any detail why. That's not to say everyone does it. Algonquin Assassin is a fanboy but atleast goes in depth in his posts and that is worthy of respect.

 

And don't even get me to the modding community, or specifically, the coders of that section, because the car modders are actually cool guys. The coders close source their mods, which in time makes users go nuts over Rockstar releasing updates and breaking script support because there is no one that can update the scripts because there are no coders, exactly like it happened with patch 8 and CE at the time, thus creating a stupid status quo that new = bad. Seriously, fire up both IV patch 7 and CE side to side. CE loads faster than normal IV. That is if you can even compare them since you can't even start patch 7 normally without mods. And the most stupid reason no one makes script mods for CE is because of "no multiplayer" (yes I am refering to Zolika), even though no one even uses it anymore ever since GTA Connected became more stable, or that "it is unstable". Meanwhile whoever uses patch 7 or 8 has fastman's limit adjuster installed, which makes the game unstable, according to people like C1aude_III, which works on merging the DLCs in one game, and more. The audacity of them is that they cry about GTA Online being a bad game (which it is), while they hide multiplayer telemetry options in mods that don't involve multiplayer in any form and the servers being full of hackers just like in GTA Online. There is also this Steam review if anything. And if I had to mention singleplayer mods, I'd bring this mod up because at one point it removed gay people from the streets, a thing from vanilla IV. Bonus points for OpenIV calling itself open while it is closed source. There are no other tools with open formats at the moment this post was written. Maybe Rockstar and Take Two should've taken it down so that other modders remake an actual open source tool.

 

So yeah, I tolerate the game. I hate most of the community with a passion.

Edited February 9, 2021 by Jinx.

[B Dawg]

2 minutes ago, Jinx. said:

There is also this Steam review if anything.

I am 100% sure he reviewed the wrong game.

[Jinx.]

Just now, B Dawg said:

I am 100% sure he reviewed the wrong game.

Point proven.

[Payne]

sh*t like “it doesn’t suit Niko” sounds cancer as f*ck when it’s still an open world game. So you’re telling me it suits Niko to push people around like an idiot? It suits Niko to go on V stars rampages?

[Dr Busta]

Lol I am sure Nayden will be surprised  by all of this when he returns after buying his cigarettes

[BossFF007]

1 hour ago, Jinx. said:

I'm not a fan of the game by a long shot, I like some aspects of it and I dislike others, but jesus I loathe and despise it's fanbase. Maybe things would be different if the mods didn't lock all threads criticizing the game back when the game launched. In fact I'm glad that Drunken Cowboy dude is not around here anymore, because he 100% is also one of the reason this place became what it is. Now it grew and it's full of pretentious "fans of the GTA series" that use the same buzzwords when talking about how "good" the game is or how GTA shouldn't be goofy anymore despite it being the case for GTA 2 and the entirety of the 3D Era. And don't even dare to criticize the game or you will be labeled as a "troll" by every drone on this section. What's that? I can criticize GTA V  as much as I want because GTA V is not canon now go be a troll somewhere else. And this is not all, by a long shot. They will find a reson to defend IV's lack of content cause "it wouldn't work with Niko" while more or less dismiss all girlfriends as "not suitable for Niko" because of how they are written. They will talk about how GTA IV was a change to the franchise while crapping on GTA V for not focusing on criminal organizations. Yes, GTA V is also full of issues like story or lack of interior etc, cut content and stuff not backported from older games, but that doesn't give any right to the same bunch of users to go in the V section (and even outside the forums!!! I bet if you visit Darkflame's videos or any place on the internet you'll see B Dawg posting his list from his profile) and do what they cry about. Algonquin Assassin and KGBeast already said that people have a hardon for hating this game even after 13 years. Meanwhile users here have GTA V living rent free in their head for almost 10 years despite it being disliked by the fans, with a truck load of seething about Johnny's death, and no, it still being sold on new consoles doesn't mean Rockstar cares about the game. The only reason it even got on PS5 is because of GTA Online, which was always bundled with the game. They didn't even add anything to SP for a long time and I doubt they will care about it either. And I'm sure GTA V will become less popular with Online becoming standalone.

 

Say whatever you want about the game but it is in no way "dark" and "depressing" just because of the colors or certain moments in the game. It's still full of satire just like the 3D Era games, it's still full of jokes, just like billyjoearmstrong8 said here. A lot of people just go ahead and parrot what youtubers and ecelebs like Gypsy, Badger or whatever any of them say, without going in any detail why. That's not to say everyone does it. Algonquin Assassin is a fanboy but atleast goes in depth in his posts and that is worthy of respect.

 

And don't even get me to the modding community, or specifically, the coders of that section, because the car modders are actually cool guys. The coders close source their mods, which in time makes users go nuts over Rockstar releasing updates and breaking script support because there is no one that can update the scripts because there are no coders, exactly like it happened with patch 8 and CE at the time, thus creating a stupid status quo that new = bad. Seriously, fire up both IV patch 7 and CE side to side. CE loads faster than normal IV. That is if you can even compare them since you can't even start patch 7 normally without mods. And the most stupid reason no one makes script mods for CE is because of "no multiplayer" (yes I am refering to Zolika), even though no one even uses it anymore ever since GTA Connected became more stable, or that "it is unstable". Meanwhile whoever uses patch 7 or 8 has fastman's limit adjuster installed, which makes the game unstable, according to people like C1aude_III, which works on merging the DLCs in one game, and more. The audacity of them is that they cry about GTA Online being a bad game (which it is), while they hide multiplayer telemetry options in mods that don't involve multiplayer in any form and the servers being full of hackers just like in GTA Online. There is also this Steam review if anything. And if I had to mention singleplayer mods, I'd bring this mod up because at one point it removed gay people from the streets, a thing from vanilla IV. Bonus points for OpenIV calling itself open while it is closed source. There are no other tools with open formats at the moment this post was written. Maybe Rockstar and Take Two should've taken it down so that other modders remake an actual open source tool.

 

So yeah, I tolerate the game. I hate most of the community with a passion.

You literally exposed the whole GTA IV community, congrats (not being sarcastic). It's about time somebody exposed all of the IV-worshippers. 

[Jinx.]

Just to be clear, I don't have anything with people who think IV is the best GTA and have some common sense, but I don't like the fanboys.

[BossFF007]

12 minutes ago, Jinx. said:

Just to be clear, I don't have anything with people who think IV is the best GTA and have some common sense, but I don't like the fanboys.

Same here, it's just the fanboys who can't let the game take any criticism and the ones who have no evidence to back up their points.

[Dr Busta]

34 minutes ago, Damien Scott said:

I hope VI will be similar to IV and TLAD not only because those are the best games in the series, but also to annoy the salty San Andreas fanboys who don't understand that the 3D Universe is gone for good and the series has taken a different direction. 

How and when?

[rml_gta]

As a GTA IV fan, I accept too criticism about the game if it is supported with a solid argument or something that is totally objective, as the lack of customization on clothing, cars, etc. But I can't accept the idea of bad game and BORING because of the story, R* tried to make a game that was something close to Red Dead Redemption ambience, in the sense of caring about life and your family and friends, like John Marston did to save his family in the first RDR and Niko just wanted to have a normal life in the USA with Roman, he wasn't motivated because of greed and mafia's stuff, let's be fair, he is the only one apart from Franklin and CJ that wasn't motivated because of "greed" or "money", and Niko is the most human GTA character I have ever seen, even they planned to put some deaths music if you got wasted in GTA IV, like in RDR1 when you die, you hear a music instead of a single chime, but it was discarded, they wanted to do that to represent a more mature and dark game compared with the rest of GTA games, maybe they wanted to focus GTA to a more mature group of players like RDR, but watching the hate GTA IV got, they decided to return to a less mature story in GTA V that seems to be a sitcom lol, even GTA San Andreas is more mature than GTA V, and I love GTA V too, but I think it's obvious

 

[Dr Busta]

6 minutes ago, Damien Scott said:

The HD Universe singleplayer titles have taken a more mature and story driven direction, that's what I meant.

Yeah but when did San Andreas fanboys or people want rockstar to return to the 3D era?

I have never seen something like that before 

[Niobium]

12 hours ago, Jinx. said:

or you will be labeled as a "troll" by every drone on this section.

 

that topic was meant to be an appreciation thread but for some reason it got filled with people saying that johnny is a "meh" character so of course that ticked me off. if someone really wanted to sh*t on johnny instead of admire him, they should just make a new thread.

 

you'll never see me go into a trevor appreciation thread just to sh*t on him, as much as i loathe him.

 

i always elaborate and articulate my arguments on why i like IV and don't like V. what do you people want from me?

[Dr Busta]

Watching people fighting over a bunch of pixels on a screen everyday is always fun 

[Dr Busta]

5 hours ago, Niobium said:

that topic was meant to be an appreciation thread but for some reason it got filled with people saying that johnny is a "meh" character so of course that ticked me off. if someone really wanted to sh*t on johnny instead of admire him, they should just make a new thread.

Well that's literally what people do in every GTA 5 appreciation topic (like the one made by Nayden ) and before the SA section was dead the same used to happen a lot and GTA 4 fanboys always say weird stuff there like having more features = less fun , talking about the game without remembering sh*t about it and try to Force their opinions on you like if it's the absolute truth

Edit : Double post but I am sure Nayden wouldn't mind

@Nayden burns you wouldn't mind right?

Yep he's okay with it

Edited February 10, 2021 by DR:BUSTA

[Jinx.]

7 hours ago, Niobium said:

you'll never see me go into a trevor appreciation thread just to sh*t on him, as much as i loathe him.

 

 

[Niobium]

1 hour ago, Jinx. said:

 

 

that was 5 years ago.

 

do you really believe this is some kind of self-own?

 

news-flash: people can grow up! people can change! shocker, right?

[Jeansowaty]

eh, as much as I love GTA IV and it's my fave GTA, some people really gotta  grow up and stop lurking the V section just to sh*t on it. It's not a bad game, just if it's not your cup of tea, let people enjoy it as much as they want I guess.

[NikoLiberty2008]

I'm afraid of being cringe so I'll say just one thing: Bruh

2 hours ago, Jeansowaty said:

eh, as much as I love GTA IV and it's my fave GTA, some people really gotta  grow up and stop lurking the V section just to sh*t on it. It's not a bad game, just if it's not your cup of tea, let people enjoy it as much as they want I guess.

On the end of the day, everything that matters are if you're really having fun playing.

[universetwisters]

On 2/10/2021 at 10:09 AM, Niobium said:

that was 5 years ago.

 

do you really believe this is some kind of self-own?

 

news-flash: people can grow up! people can change! shocker, right?

 

IDK man you haven’t changed your rhetoric despite five years passing so gg hypocrite lmao 

[billiejoearmstrong8]

5 hours ago, RenegadeAngel said:

It wasn't the mature story that caused the negative feedback, it was the story-driven nature of the game in general. Too many gameplay restrictions in contrast to San Andreas took people by surprise(in a bad way), so it took some time for the game to prove its worth and for players to adapt to the new vision of the franchise.

 

I disagree that it has gameplay restrictions. It has less variety of side content and customisation. But gameplay (movement, physics, driving, combat, climbing, interacting with the environment etc, as well as the amount of freedom in mission gameplay) is better, more detailed and more free than in any other GTA game.

[rml_gta]

26 minutes ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

 

I disagree that it has gameplay restrictions. It has less variety of side content and customisation. But gameplay (movement, physics, driving, combat, climbing, interacting with the environment etc, as well as the amount of freedom in mission gameplay) is better, more detailed and more free than in any other GTA game.

Exactly, GTA V in gameplay is more "arcade" than "realistic", c'mon, you can try a punch fight in GTA IV and GTA V and you can see that GTA V punch fights are sh*t compared with GTA IV variety of movements, lucky that they recovered that variety on RDR2

[The Artist]

9 hours ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

 

I disagree that it has gameplay restrictions. It has less variety of side content and customisation. But gameplay (movement, physics, driving, combat, climbing, interacting with the environment etc, as well as the amount of freedom in mission gameplay) is better, more detailed and more free than in any other GTA game.

Missions are very basic and repetitive, lack of over the top missions. Lack of vehicle customization, tanks, parachutes. City being mostly boring brown-grey everywhere because of the filter they used. Lack of countryside. Bad driving physics. These are the main things IV was criticized for.

Edited February 12, 2021 by StuntMaster100