GTA Soapbox

[Americana]

Vice City is somehow believable, but San Andreas... eh... I always pretend that there's a river inbetween.

[wise_man]

On 4/10/2021 at 10:20 PM, Carbonox said:

So I came across this and wanted to share with a larger audience.

 

 

Doesn't really count as a nostalgic video, being from 2019, but I'll be damned if it doesn't remind me of all that 2006 sh*t. It's even unintentionally hilarious given how music videos normally feature a lot of cuts and different angles, while this is just flying the same Camper all over the map, again and again. Made my night last night tbf.

Reminds me of that Gorillaz's GTA V video clip.

[String]

Three Leaf Clover is probably the most influential mission in GTA history considering the next game was themed around heists in part due to the popularity of this mission iirc. 

 

Imagine being such a success as a mission that a major part of the next game is based on it lol

Edited April 15, 2021 by Wayne Kerr

[Guest]

I've been replaying GTA 3 and I forgot how good the Radio stations are. It's making me consider pulling Vice City as my favourite, some of these tunes are bangers. Rise FM is amazing.

 

 

[H-G]

In my opinion, all of LCS' radio stations are just perfect. R* Leeds did an awesome job at putting all those songs together, and what I really liked was more use of in-house songs made by R* themselves.

Edited April 15, 2021 by Staunton Assassin

[Dr Busta]

Old reece is the most wholesome GTA character hands down

Edited April 27, 2021 by DR:BUSTA

[GhettoJesus]

22 minutes ago, DR:BUSTA said:

Old reece is the most wholesomeness GTA character hands down

For someone who popped a membrane he sure is a nice and sane guy.

[JetNormalGuy]

23 minutes ago, DR:BUSTA said:

Old reece is the most wholesomeness GTA character hands down

"Like a raggedy ass motherf*cker, he popped his membrane years ago!"

[Harwood Butch3r]

On 4/12/2021 at 5:11 PM, Wayne Kerr said:

Assuming their DOBs in the wiki are correct, Niko in 2021 would still be younger than Michael and Trevor in 2013. Took me by surprise when I noticed.

 

Would you be up for Niko returning as a middle aged protagonist then, only talking hypothetically of course.   

 

All issues like voice actor, not using previous protagonists etc put aside, I get the feeling a considerable number of IV fans would not want him to return whether as side character or main, cause the expectations will be too big and not meeting that would lead to some feeling the character got ruined or whatever. But I don't want to put words in anyone's mouth, just the feeling I get. 

 

Personally Nikos arc got a fine ending and I don't think he needs to return but I wouldnt be against him appearing either tbh. Anyway I am not serious about Niko returning, just when I realized Niko would today still be younger than Michael and Trevor I was like woah. Then I thought about what if a version of Niko akin to Michael were to appear and so I posted this. 

 

Agreed.

 

There's no real reason to bring Niko back because as you said his arc wrapped up nicely and I like to picture he finally got to live a normal life. It's not that I'd worry how he would be portrayed with a different voice actor. I just don't see any reason why he would come back as he wanted to put his past behind him.

 

The "nods" and mentions in GTA V were more than satisfying enough at least for me.

[Yinepi]

I always wondered if GTA could work as a film. I know there is a film called Grand Theft Auto but it was created before GTA series existed so it doesn't have the lore and pop culture references.

[String]

1 hour ago, Yinepi said:

I always wondered if GTA could work as a film. I know there is a film called Grand Theft Auto but it was created before GTA series existed so it doesn't have the lore and pop culture references.

Would be very exciting for a GTA fan but maybe it would not be so distinguishable from other crime movies? I guess it would also have the GTA whackiness to it like a Michael Bay movie or something, would be interesting to see how it would appear to an audience used to more gritty crime movies. Also idk if the 69 humor and stuff will be received so well lol. 

[Americana]

Hey, look. It's that movie based on some games, which were also somewhat based on other movies!

[GhettoJesus]

A movie of Vice City would end up as an off-brand bootleg Scarface tbh.

[H-G]

A GTA movie will just anger the fans because film adaptions never really work out, at least not too well. See Max Payne, for example.

[String]

The final mission in IV should have had a checkpoint at the beginning of the boat chase, it's annoying when you narrowly miss Jacobs helicopter or if you do manage to climb up you lose Dimitris heli because you suck at GTA IVs helicopter controls but then you have to do the whole shootout part all over again, it gets tedious. 

 

If there could have been only one checkpoint I would have preferred the checkpoint be at the start of the boat chase than the start of the shootout in the abandoned casino, I don't even mind doing the car chase again if you fail the shootout but when you want to concentrate getting the timing of landing the boat under Jacobs heli right but have to do the whole gunfight again is pretty dumb. 

[Americana]

To be honest, in my opinion, the game should have ended in a more humble way. This whole chase was, once again - in my opinion, not necessary. I would prefer Niko to just execute the scum.

[String]

Felt like sharing this here

 

Found this interesting, so Michael never was in witness protection then. I wonder how he got that mansion then, a result of all his ill gotten money from the various bank jobs he did? 

 

GTA V's story doesn't get talked about enough. 

[H-G]

Okay, so Tommy and Toni both kill a random thug in their respective stories, take their cell phone and then suddenly everyone in the entire city has their number and people contact them as who they really are. Not to mention they don't even need SIM cards, mobile balance or chargers. It's pretty baffling, in my opinion.

[GhettoJesus]

1 hour ago, Staunton Assassin said:

Okay, so Tommy and Toni both kill a random thug in their respective stories, take their cell phone and then suddenly everyone in the entire city has their number and people contact them as who they really are. Not to mention they don't even need SIM cards, mobile balance or chargers. It's pretty baffling, in my opinion.

I always wondered how most characters got Tommy's number (which in reality is Leo's number). Only Mr. Black and Umberto knowing the number makes sense. I guess Tommy gave his number to other  people he knew but then how does Auntie Poulet, a total stranger, got his number?

[String]

24 minutes ago, GhettoJesus said:

I guess Tommy gave his number to other  people he knew but then how does Auntie Poulet, a total stranger, got his number?

It's that juju powers of hers man  

 

Speaking of Auntie Poulet, her gtawiki page says she was born in 1900, tbf it does say citation needed so idk if it is right but it would make her comfortably the oldest character in GTA if it was so (she would have been born around the events of RDR2 lol, idk if they are in the same timeline). She doesn't seem that old to me though. 

[H-G]

6 hours ago, Wayne Kerr said:

It's that juju powers of hers man

I don't think that's the case because Toshiko also gets Toni's number out of nowhere in LCS and she isn't into any juju stuff. Although, I think Ned Burner must've e-mailed her Toni's number. Anyway, either Poulet or some Haitian guy must've intimidated some Cuban guy to get his number.

 

6 hours ago, Wayne Kerr said:

Speaking of Auntie Poulet, her gtawiki page says she was born in 1900, tbf it does say citation needed so idk if it is right but it would make her comfortably the oldest character in GTA if it was so (she would have been born around the events of RDR2 lol, idk if they are in the same timeline). She doesn't seem that old to me though. 

Yeah, I agree with you there. She doesn't look too old. I think she must be 60+ or something close to that. By the way, GTAWikia can't really be trusted anymore with all that fake content and lies that are scattered around in literally every single page nowadays. I'd rather go to GrandTheftWiki instead for that purpose.

Edited May 1, 2021 by Staunton Assassin

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Is King Courtney in GTA III the only antagonist in the series who betrays the player and gets away with it for certain? I can't think of any other antagonist who does that and doesn't have the protagonist come after them in some way. Oh to know what Claude was thinking during III... 

 

The Yardies in the 3d era were pretty weird, with Courtney being this untouchable figure for some reason and even in LCS they randomly become hostile to Toni iirc despite him not targeting them and even helped them in a couple of missions? Though it's been a while so I forget. 

 

Seems the VA for King Courtney also voiced Malc in TLaD, is as big a shock to me as Wu Zi Mu's VA voicing that Police officer in IV lol

[Americana]

It's easy to betray when you are hidden behind the payphone, lol.

[String]

Vic Vance gets a lot of crap especially about building a drug empire while constantly mentioning his distaste for drugs, maybe he gets crapped on for good reason but I like him, the rough and tough fighter with a heart of gold thing he has going is nice. He doesn't seem like a maniac like the other 3D era protagonists and had things gone another way you could see him living an honorable life too, and while people may prefer a less morally conflicted protagonist to cause chaos with, Vic was a pretty endearing character too. And he built himself a mighty fine empire too even if he got screwed by being a prequel to VC which meant his fate was already decided... 

 

In a way Vic was the proto Niko. Former soldier betrayed and looking for revenge, the cousin/brother dynamic, the love interest theme (Kate/Louise) and both are tough and strong but relatively noble at heart. Niko gets a lot of love, show Vic some too dammit! 

Edited May 9, 2021 by Wayne Kerr

[Yinepi]

On 4/28/2021 at 7:37 AM, GhettoJesus said:

A movie of Vice City would end up as an off-brand bootleg Scarface tbh.

Which is exactly what Vice City is.

[wise_man]

On 4/28/2021 at 9:37 PM, GhettoJesus said:

A movie of Vice City would end up as an off-brand bootleg Scarface tbh.

and GTA V movie will be no different to Heat if Michael Bay directed it.

[Yinepi]

We're kind of at that point in the film industry anyway where all movies seem alike. Which is why I don't watch many movies. People can ask me have you seen x popular movie and I'll be like nope.

Edited May 10, 2021 by Yinepi

[Harwood Butch3r]

On 5/9/2021 at 11:13 PM, Wayne Kerr said:

Vic Vance gets a lot of crap especially about building a drug empire while constantly mentioning his distaste for drugs, maybe he gets crapped on for good reason but I like him, the rough and tough fighter with a heart of gold thing he has going is nice. He doesn't seem like a maniac like the other 3D era protagonists and had things gone another way you could see him living an honorable life too, and while people may prefer a less morally conflicted protagonist to cause chaos with, Vic was a pretty endearing character too. And he built himself a mighty fine empire too even if he got screwed by being a prequel to VC which meant his fate was already decided... 

 

In a way Vic was the proto Niko. Former soldier betrayed and looking for revenge, the cousin/brother dynamic, the love interest theme (Kate/Louise) and both are tough and strong but relatively noble at heart. Niko gets a lot of love, show Vic some too dammit! 

The two biggest factors I feel

that go against Vic are that VCS isn’t as popular as most of the main line GTA games and he literally feels like an afterthought considering in Vice City he was just an NPC that gets killed a few seconds of being on screen lol.

 

I get that Vic and Niko share some similar traits, but their personalities are completely different which is probably the deciding factor for most people.

 

It’s like Tommy and Trevor for example. They have similar character traits when you break it down, but they couldn’t be more polar opposite in personality.

 

I don’t think any of us can deny Niko resonates with a large portion of the fanbase. Even people who aren’t necessarily fans of GTA IV seem to really like him, but I just don’t don’t see that same “It” factor with Vic.

 

 

 

 

[String]

29 minutes ago, MiamiViceCity1986 said:

The two biggest factors I feel

that go against Vic are that VCS isn’t as popular as most of the main line GTA games and he literally feels like an afterthought considering in Vice City he was just an NPC that gets killed a few seconds of being on screen lol.

I think you nailed it here, the fact that VCS is probably the least popular of the five main 3d era games and that his fate was already decided really went against him. But I dont know about Vic not having that it factor, maybe compared to Niko yeah but with his 3D era peers he appears quite different to Claude, Tommy, Toni and even CJ to an extent who are maniacs. Vic is a criminal too but he feels like a lot more of a noble character relatively and the 3D era protagonist you would most want to hang out with, his more righteous character stands out from the more maniacal 3d era portagonists except maybe CJ but Vic also has that badass fighter vibe to him which makes him stand out to me. Then again 'it' factor is subjective tbf

 

Tbh I like Tommy and CJ a lot more than Vic because they are a lot of fun to play and cause chaos as, I can see that ludonarrative dissonance or whatever happening with Vics character but story wise his character is as interesting as any and his descent  from naive soldier looking to provide for his family to crime lord and mass murderer would have been a lot more popular and captivating had VCS been a trilogy game rather than a Stories game imo.

 

Also I think Vic and Niko arent that dissimilar hehe, maybe Niko is a far more interesting character but they have more in common than say Tommy and Trevor who besides being maniacs have nothing else in common lol. In general Vic and Niko have the feeling of wanting to be more than a criminal though they keep getting sucked in to that life for different reasons which is really alluring to me (though I also enjoy maniacs who embrace it  like Tommy V), I think both are great protagonists but its a shame that primarily due to the reasons you mentioned imo, VIc doesnt get a tenth or even a hundredth of the love Niko gets lol.(though Niko is on a class of his own but we need moar luv for Vic!)

 

 

Edited May 10, 2021 by Wayne Kerr

[JetNormalGuy]

On 5/1/2021 at 6:31 AM, Wayne Kerr said:

Felt like sharing this here

 

Found this interesting, so Michael never was in witness protection then. I wonder how he got that mansion then, a result of all his ill gotten money from the various bank jobs he did? 

 

GTA V's story doesn't get talked about enough. 

I always thought it was common knowledge that Micheal was lying about it, this just proves me that GTA V's story isnt given enough credit for what it is.