GTA Soapbox

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19 hours ago, Bratva Assassin said:

I also think it would be cool if there’s actual mobsters in Vice City for them to go on missions for.

I read in the VI section discussions that the Russian mob has a decent presence in Miami, would be interesting to see those guys again. 

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5 hours ago, String said:

I read in the VI section discussions that the Russian mob has a decent presence in Miami, would be interesting to see those guys again. 

Imagine if another IV\EFLC character returns because of that...

[universetwisters]

10 hours ago, String said:

I read in the VI section discussions that the Russian mob has a decent presence in Miami, would be interesting to see those guys again. 

Semi related but like a decade ago some Cubans (working with Russians) got arrested trying to buy lawn equipment a few blocks away from me with stolen cards and it opened up a whole big can of worms 

 

https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/news/2014/12/03/ormond-police-charge-4-men-in-statewide-identity-theft-ring/30693850007/

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6 hours ago, H-G said:

Imagine if another IV\EFLC character returns because of that...

I think it will be cool to see Petrovic, we only heard of him in IV and after the fall of Dimitri/Bulgarin it's likely he will be the reigning Russian don and perhaps only grew in power as the years passed. 

 

Be interesting to see the IV/V references in VI. There's a reference about V's Jay Norris I believe. Will the events of GTA Online be referenced in VI or only in VI's Online? 

[universetwisters]

2 hours ago, String said:

Be interesting to see the IV/V references in VI. There's a reference about V's Jay Norris I believe. Will the events of GTA Online be referenced in VI or only in VI's Online? 

 

idk I really hope VI can stand on it's own feet without being too reliant on calling back to V and IV. Like how so many references to SA were literally shoehorned into the Contract DLC for V, for example. It was more cringy than a nice lil callback to build the game's lore.

 

You are right though, in the video where Jason is standing by the pool, one of the rednecks is talking about Jay Norris getting his head blown off 

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Don't think VI will be relying too much to previous games. If it's in 2025, then it's 12 years after V and 17 years after IV. That decade+ timespan is too long to include many past references, many events will be irrelevant to be talked. I understand why Jay Norris is still a topic, though. He was CEO of major social network company and was killed horribly in front of public. That's a major incident. Kinda like how people still talking about 9/11 decades later.

 

Instead of references from EFLC, V, or Online; I hope there'll be more historical references. How VC looks like back then? What the characters are doing long ago?. I want to hear people talking about the 80's drug wars. A retired drug baron talks about how he was arrested for loading coke on plane in 1981. A washed-up mobster talks about how he rose to power and had a mansion in Starfish Island back then.

 

GTA IV is rich of things like this that opens up our imagination. GTA V? not so much unfortunately. When we know so much about Liberty City's mob scenes pre-9/11, why we barely know about the 90's riots that supposed to happen in Los Santos?

Edited December 27, 2022 by wise_man

[Krymefull]

On 4/15/2021 at 5:18 PM, H-G said:

In my opinion, all of LCS' radio stations are just perfect. R* Leeds did an awesome job at putting all those songs together, and what I really liked was more use of in-house songs made by R* themselves.

I legal was impressed with how real and believable III/LCS original songs felt, whenever a company/game studio makes an original song for their game you can obviously tell it's an original song, but with Rockstar's you won't notice it first time.

Edited July 16, 2023 by DubiousThiny

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Edited June 24, 2023 by DubiousThiny

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On 7/11/2021 at 9:07 AM, H-G said:

Of course they have the right to do that but at least keep the game cohesive and consistent. As I said in the previous page, if you love a game, then find the formula that made you love it and improve upon it so that game becomes even more fun to you. The real thing about modding is to expand on the original game and introduce new content that fits right into the game's lore, as if the developers themselves made it.

Whenever I mod a game I always go for the ones that improve the game or adds new things while keeping the vanilla feel of the game, none of the dumb sh*t that I (unfortureally) keep seeing every-damn-time.

Edited June 24, 2023 by DubiousThiny

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27 minutes ago, 2L8 said:

whenever i mod a game i always go for the ones that improve the game or adds new things while keeping the vanilla feel of the game, none of the dumb sh*t that i (unfortureally) keep seeing everyday whenever i look for mods

Why don't you use the Edit button under your posts to quote multiple parts of my posts, bro? I'm sorry to say this, but I'm constantly getting notifications of you quoting me (but it's OK).

Edited January 4, 2023 by H-G

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On 12/9/2022 at 7:35 AM, String said:

Who else has gone and spoilt most of the GTA games' storyline for themselves before they finished the game? Think I did this with near every GTA I played.

Atleast with GTA/games in general there's still fun in playing the missions and exploring the game world even if you learnt of the story in advance. With books and movies spoiling the story in advance would be even worse.

I remember as a kid the first time I've ever heard of San Andreas is the final mission that I've accidentally watched on YouTube. Imagine my 9 year old self confusion when I saw Big Smoke being friendly with CJ the first time I've played the game .

Edited July 28, 2023 by DubiousThiny

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Tom Sizemore who among other roles voiced Sonny Forelli in Vice City, passed away yesterday. Sonny's role in the game was brief but memorable and Sizemore's voice was definitely part of what made it so. 

[The Coconut Kid]

2 minutes ago, String said:

Tom Sizemore who among other roles voiced Sonny Forelli in Vice City, passed away yesterday. Sonny's role in the game was brief but memorable and Sizemore's voice was definitely part of what made it so. 

Gutted. I revisited his role in Vice City and envisaged him as the protagonist of my concept Grand Theft Auto VI: Vice. I posted a tribute to him here:

 

 

Now he's asking the big man where's his cut of his new action.

[.Ryan.]

3 hours ago, String said:

Tom Sizemore who among other roles voiced Sonny Forelli in Vice City, passed away yesterday. Sonny's role in the game was brief but memorable and Sizemore's voice was definitely part of what made it so. 

Wow. That sucks big time. R.I.P buddy.

 

It’s actually kind of creepy now I think about it just how many voice actors from Vice City are now deceased. It would have the most of any GTA surely? And big stars too.

 

 

[Krooked_]

3 hours ago, String said:

Tom Sizemore who among other roles voiced Sonny Forelli in Vice City, passed away yesterday. Sonny's role in the game was brief but memorable and Sizemore's voice was definitely part of what made it so. 

He had so little screen time in the game and yet, he's one of the best antagonists in the series for me. The phone conversations between him and Tommy are my favorite part of the story. You could feel the tension between them from the very beginning.

 

May he rest in peace.

[String]

Which event do you think would have brought more attention to the public in the GTA world

 

The Union depository heist

Or

The assassination of Jay Norris? 

 

Hypothetically, what would grab your attention more; Mark Zuckerberg being assassinated or the biggest bank in the world being robbed? 

[universetwisters]

38 minutes ago, String said:

The Union depository heist

Or

The assassination of Jay Norris? 

Probably the latter just because of how it was done, the fact that it was on live television, and the fact that banks get robbed all the time (and they’re always insured against robbery so it’s not like anyone who banks with them is affected)

 

Hell it isn’t even established what the Union Depository even is. It operates like a bank apparently but it’s name is synonymous with Federal Reserve which is just where a bunch of gold is kept. Rockstar pls fix!?!?!

[Americana]

In the mission Jizzy the whore might have thought that CJ didn't want to speak with her.

 

She didn't realize that "Uh-huh, real interesting!" is how CJ converstates with all women.

[Carbonox]

The Caligula heist had no right to succeed the way it did, and I wouldn't hire CJ to plan something like that ever again. Really, the recurring theme throughout it is that the LVPD being chronically brain dead is the crew's only saving grace.

 

In Architectural Espionage, CJ gets caught snooping in the planning department after his loud distraction, and has to shoot his way out of there. No matter if you lead the LVPD to the casino, no consequences arise.

 

In Key to Her Heart, the plan is somewhat flimsy, but at the very least it's the only prep that CJ might only f*ck up at on the player's own accord, by getting Millie killed or being dumped. Even then, the keycard is successfully stolen, no biggie. Better hope no one grows suspicious of her and/or Benny's death (oh, almost forgot he kills Benny in the middle of the street in broad daylight and no one bats an eye - geez, his competence in my eyes keeps getting worse the more I look into the details.)

 

In Dam and Blast, the cops are alerted, and he makes a pretty unrealistic dive into the drink to escape. Even if he goes unsighted, suspicion has arisen, yet no one locates the explosives until it's too late.

 

In Cop Wheels, CJ's solution to obtain cop bikes is to... flat out take them from 4 different cops, onto a Packer that no one takes interest in despite its slowly growing load.

 

In Up, Up and Away, he concludes that a street level jacking isn't gucci, but breaking into an army depot, shooting his way through dozens of soldiers and a pair of gunships like it's another day in the office, stealing a sky crane and lifting the Securicar home is the perfect way to go about things. I'm sure no one at the Rockshore East depot noticed the hijacking either, right? LVPD should by now know that something is up when the bikes and now an armored truck went missing, since those could be used by impostors to rob the casino. They instead do nothing.

 

In the finale, CJ's monopoly on being a f*ck-up and overcomplicating the job is at least shattered when Zero brags to Berkley and gets the gang in trouble for it. Fair enough, it makes the mission more interesting, but what does it say about the professionalism aspect? At least the cops woke up for once. Too late to stop CJ and the wonky mission-exclusive parachute physics from stealing their chopper, though. I'd say stick to robbing 24/7's from now on, though, lightning might not strike the same place twice if you were to get funny ideas about other lucrative targets beyond the game's story.

Edited March 14, 2023 by Carbonox

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I have the same problem with GTA V.

 

All the heists are cool, but I don't get it why nobody from the law noticing and anticipating it. I'd pass "Jewel Store Job" because it's the first robbery, but people should've identified a pattern: the Vangelico robbery involves a bugstar truck and gas, which were stolen not long before.

 

I don't get it why nobody rises an eyebrow when a big boring machine was stolen, and a train was hijacked in the short span of time, after a series of costly stickups across LS and Blaine County.

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3 minutes ago, wise_man said:

I have the same problem with GTA V.

 

All the heists are cool, but I don't get it why nobody from the law noticing and anticipating it. I'd pass "Jewel Store Job" because it's the first robbery, but people should've identified a pattern: the Vangelico robbery involves a bugstar truck and gas, which were stolen not long before.

 

I don't get it why nobody rises an eyebrow when a big boring machine was stolen, and a train was hijacked in the short span of time, after a series of costly stickups across LS and Blaine County.

 

I think the most erroneous of them is how for the Paleto Bay heist, you needed to pull that off to buy a helicopter, even if you stole one before for the Merriweather heist 

[Americana]

I hate doing The Paleto Score because we murder such a crazy amount of people to buy a vehicle.

[E Revere]

I've been putting some thought into how well-trained each protagonist is.

 

Niko likely wrestled with his brother and maybe the other boys in the village during his childhood. It was a normal thing to do for those from his background and generation. He also grew up in a brutal guerilla war. I'm not sure if he received actual military training but everything he had to do during the war was probably equal to one and more anyway. He also got right into working for mobs in Southeastern Europe, specifically a prominent one like Bulgarin's. So his line of work was probably still very violent during his early young adult years. Niko is probably the most powerful protagonist, in both hand-to-hand and firearm combat.

 

Johnny K. was said to hang out around Billy with his older brother Michael when he was 12. He may have been exposed to bashing people with bats from a young age. Michael is a military man as well, though I don't know if he passed anything down to Johnny.

 

Luis Lopez comes from a hood and we all know the type of upbringing experienced by such people. But he was a cage fighter during his youth and apparently came out of jail much stronger and victoriously. Cage fighters are no joke. Luis is definitely pretty strong.

 

Trevor worked for the airforce so he definitely had official training as well, just as Vic Vance. Though Victor's buildup of experience was cut short, to what avail, I don't know. He seemingly worked for the national guard though. That's probably different from those who work to get deployed overseas.

 

As for Claude, CJ, Tommy, Toni Cipriani and others. They probably didn't hone any sophisticated skills like the listed protagonists here.

[E Revere]

I like how the only 3D protag (minus Vic) that can swim is the very one that's canonically afraid of the water.

[String]

I'd like to see the next GTA have getaway driver for hire type missions. You're the designated driver for crews hitting a store, attempting a prison break etc. Escape the cops and clear out the wanted stars, make your way to the destination within the time limit etc. It could be fun if a bit repetitive.

 

It would be like taking part in robberies/heists but you're the recruit for hire rather than the orchestrator. While you also are able to plan your own scores/robberies whether in story or out of it. 

 

Would it be a good idea for GTA to have an infamy system? I think there's a reputation system between Lucia and Jason based on how close they are or something like that or so I read somewhere, maybe they could have something like that in general? 

Edited April 30, 2023 by String

[GhettoJesus]

Does anyone else find it weird how protagonists, with the exception of the GTA V protagonists, don't own vehicles canonically? You would except them to buy something with their newfound wealth but nope.

[Dave Mustaine 1998]

I’ve already discussed b4 in the Unpopular Opinions thread how Asuka Kasen, Ray Boccino, the ULP contact, Mike Toreno, and Lester Crest are amongst my fav non-protagonists within the GTA franchise based on their dry humor and intelligence. I’d also like to add Wu Zi Mu and Zero, both from SA to this list. Zero’s missions may be a pain in the arse but I think he’s quite intelligent and hilarious. He’s grown on me. Wu Zi Mu is pretty baller IMO. He’s blind yet he somehow manages to be an influential mobster and even beats CJ in a video game!

[Blue carpet]

Why do none of the windshield wipers work in any of the GTA games whats the deal?

[String]

On 5/31/2023 at 9:14 PM, GhettoJesus said:

Does anyone else find it weird how protagonists, with the exception of the GTA V protagonists, don't own vehicles canonically? You would except them to buy something with their newfound wealth but nope.

I consider each protagonist to have their own vehicle it's just that for gameplay purposes it isn't being shown like that in game. Even if they aren't seen buying; cases like Johnny's Hexer, Tommy and Niko's Infernus are their own personal vehicles imo, and even cases like San Andreas where for example CJ's mom's house has this big garage, I'd like to imagine CJ isn't just having stolen vehicles in there lol, he's got his own personal vehicle but because there was no 'buying vehicle' gameplay mechanic it isn't shown in the game. 

Edited June 2, 2023 by String

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12 hours ago, Blue carpet said:

Why do none of the windshield wipers work in any of the GTA games whats the deal?

Because I guess there's no first person mode aside GTA V. It also sounds like an pointless feature but, can we see it see in VI?