GTA Soapbox

[DR Cherry Bomb]

13 hours ago, Cutter De Blanc said:

I always forget this, but you can speed up the clothing change animations in San Andreas by entering the Speed Up Gameplay cheat

You da man bretha! I didn't know about this fact until you mentioned it. 

Edited June 25 by DR Cherry Bomb

[ThatBenGuy1998]

I’m currently watching Boardwalk Empire. So far, I’ve seen all of season one and four episodes of season two. I also think that it’s a GREAT mixture of organized crime and politics and is ideal for organized crime, politics, and history enthusiasts alike! Also, if you like all three, this is definitely the show for you! I also personally feel like GTA VI should go its route, only set in the 21st century rather than in the 1920s during Prohibition. It could also take place over the course of several cities like NYC, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, and Las Vegas. The Mafia, Bratva, Yakuza, Triad, and Cartel can all be included! Sounds like almost endless fun if you ask me. I mean, GTA III, IV/EFLC, and VC are all kinda hard to beat but this hypothetical game could potentially be kind of a combo of those and SA to an extent.

[AkshayKumar]

10 minutes ago, ThatBenGuy1998 said:

It could also take place over the course of several cities like NYC, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, and Las Vegas. The Mafia, Bratva, Yakuza, Triad, and Cartel can all be included! Sounds like almost endless fun if you ask me.

I feel like having so many cities sounds more fun than it would end up being. I don't necessarily think bigger would be better and would rather they focus only on one or two cities and try make them as detailed as they can. 

 

Boardwalk empire huh, heard a lot of good things about that show. Would be nice to see a tv show scratch that mafia itch for me. Sopranos is great too but that show feels more of a family drama about a mobster, which is good in its own way but doesn't exactly feel like the Godfather or Goodfellas which was what I was expecting lol

[Cutter De Blanc]

"Did Somebody Say Yoga" definitely hits different if you replay it with Trevor wearing a pink dress

[DR Cherry Bomb]

Quoted from the "Vice City Stories Appreciation Thread":

4 minutes ago, DR Cherry Bomb said:

Confession/Unpopular Opinion: I don't really think Vic was that bad of a protagonist.

He lets himself do all of these odd jobs for Pete's sake. Remember, Pete suffers from Asthma, a life-threatingly bad disease that is pretty hard to cure. 

So yeah, Vic sells drugs, takes over empires and profits from them etc, all just to ensure that he has the money for the medications for his brother. Clearly, he wasn't satisfied with this type of life but what else could he have done? 

Sorry for this little chunk of paragraph I just wanted to clear things up, m'kay?

 

 

[universetwisters]

I mean Vic wasn’t a bad protag, but his sudden jump to crime seems a bit more enthusiastic than someone who actually doesn’t want to get involved

[AkshayKumar]

Taking over a vast criminal empire involving businesses like loan sharking, prostitution, protection rackets just to pay his brother's hospital bills feels overkill to me. Maybe Vic developed a taste for the criminal life, what started as a means to pay for Pete turned into ambition. I think he only didn't want to get involved in drugs but he seemed to take to crime life like a fish to water imo

 

Then again I dont remember if taking over various businesses is mandatory or not.

 

In some ways Vic feels like the proto Niko; but while Niko kept his head low in that he only did jobs for others without trying to carve anything for himself, Vic gave in to his greed even if it was partly circumstantial

[Teorhus]

the gang system is strange in some gta games, some gangs actually might not belong in a city feels weird where they're put, like gta iv that doesnt have many gangs and some buildings are meant there that dont actually exist.

[AkshayKumar]

48 minutes ago, Teorhus said:

the gang system is strange in some gta games, some gangs actually might not belong in a city feels weird where they're put, like gta iv that doesnt have many gangs and some buildings are meant there that dont actually exist.

I think GTA IV has the most gangs in the series lol, just that gang members in this game are much harder to tell from regular NPCs

 

About the buildings that dont exist, it would have been nice to have seen a sports stadium in GTA IV yeah

[DeltaV20]

Use of DEA and FBI was breaking the lore, Later in HD Universe it was termed DOA because of lore and for some stupid reason Miguel Madrazo mentions ''DEA'' in the first / intro cutscene which makes DEA canon in HD Universe , affects the lore more if next title really is narcos or smuggling themed. but meh not everybody would have noticed this / or doesn't matter that much.

[universetwisters]

^it wouldn’t surprise me if they did that to “dumb it down” for players who are just playing for the action and can’t/don’t want to get caught up with several years worth of ingame lore. Kinda like how in IV, a radio commercial specifically mentions a blacksmith “with a California accent”

[GhettoJesus]

There is a segment in VCPR that I have found particular funny. I am not sure whether it was meant to make people laugh but I always chuckle when I hear it.

 

Chavez: Pastor Richards...

Pastor Richards: What?

 

Timed YT link below for reference. Pastor Richard's interruption is so natural and so on the spot, I wonder if this was a random mistake on behalf of his voice actor that they decided to leave in the game or whether this abrupt interruption was scripted. Does anyone else find this part funny?

 

 

[Carl Theft Kumar]

Has any of you seen this before? I think it's my first time seeing this. 4 people in a car and they're not in a cop chase.

[H-G]

1 hour ago, Carl Theft Kumar said:

Has any of you seen this before? I think it's my first time seeing this. 4 people in a car and they're not in a cop chase.

Looks like some kinda DLC crossover easter egg or something. But still cool, nonetheless. 

Edited July 12 by H-G

[sabitsuki]

I'm surprised people aren't already bored to death of GTA Online. The game's almost a decade old, the main map itself hasn't been updated much and it's just been the same update after update of the same go from point A to point B crap, with the new cars looking a lot more like Hot Wheels versions of their real-life counterparts rather than the traditional collaged pastiches the games used to have. People still getting mad over griefers and sh*t like that, like I've lost count as to how many videos like that pop up in my recommendations to this day.

 

Maybe Righteous Slaughter 7 was on to something.

Edited July 24 by sabitsuki

[AkshayKumar]

Whenever Ryder accidentally gets killed in a mission there would be a unique mission fail text Ryder is history and idk why I find that so funny 

 

There were some memorable mission fail lines in the classics,  one mission in GTA 3 called you a loser taunting you for not winning a race. I don't like to rail on GTA V more than it already gets but now we have Trevor killed innocent people which is perhaps memorable too but for the wrong reasons

[Space Cowboy]

8 hours ago, AkshayKumar said:

Whenever Ryder accidentally gets killed in a mission there would be a unique mission fail text Ryder is history and idk why I find that so funny 

 

There were some memorable mission fail lines in the classics,  one mission in GTA 3 called you a loser taunting you for not winning a race. I don't like to rail on GTA V more than it already gets but now we have Trevor killed innocent people which is perhaps memorable too but for the wrong reasons

Nothing will ever top this mission fail message.

[Ondr4H]

GTA V tasteless car damage with exploding upon impact on ground is worst thing that I can imagine from any rockstar game...

My biggest fun from San Andreas was jumping from Mount Chilliad, this is forbidden in GTA V, because car always explode.

[AkshayKumar]

I'm sure there will be some at least but I rarely see people mention San Andreas as their least favorite GTA. There's plenty who will say V. IV has a lot of detractors too who may like it the least. I've seen the Vice sh*tty group too before. Thinking about it I haven't seen too many GTA III haters but compared to San Andreas, SA likey has more people who will say it's their favorite and as many who will say it's their least. 

 

All these are citation needed kinda statements ya, but I do feel San Andreas is perhaps the most popular singleplayer GTA even near two decades after it's release. It's got a huge fanbase and very few detractors relatively imo which is quite the feat. People still mod the game to this day, saw a CJ become a cat or something like that come on the news. There's a whole DYOM based section in GTAF that I think is purely based on San Andreas, don't think any other GTA has anything like that? 

 

San Andreas is popular for a reason too. The grand story, the sprawling map, the various side missions and cool content.

 

The magnum opus of the series? I think its the closest to being an objective one but maybe these things are more subjective?

Edited July 30 by AkshayKumar

[Americana]

I don't think that Niko would be able to tell that Roman's Taxi is actually a cab in the intro. 

[Carbonox]

4 minutes ago, Americana said:

I don't think that Niko would be able to tell that Roman's Taxi is actually a cab in the intro. 

What actually happened was they misplaced the dialogue, it was supposed to come after he got in and read the name of the car in the bottom right of the screen.

[H-G]

On 7/30/2022 at 8:54 AM, AkshayKumar said:

People still mod the game to this day, saw a CJ become a cat or something like that come on the news.

Dude, that was a mod for some other unrelated game called Stray:

 

https://kotaku.com/stray-cat-mod-gta-cj-san-andreas-pc-horse-1849325755

[AkshayKumar]

3 minutes ago, H-G said:

Dude, that was a mod for some other unrelated game called Stray:

 

https://kotaku.com/stray-cat-mod-gta-cj-san-andreas-pc-horse-1849325755

My bad G. it still is a mark of how popular/recognisable San Andreas is, they aren't modding in the characters from the recent games but the game from 18 years ago. 

Edited July 31 by AkshayKumar

[H-G]

Just now, AkshayKumar said:

My bad G. it still is a mark of how popular/recognisable San Andreas is, they aren't modding in the characters from the recent games but the game from 18 years ago. 

People are even modding GTA SA characters into Yakuza 0, and the resulting visuals are stunning:

 

[Algonquin Assassin]

I honestly think GTA VI is in danger of becoming like Cyberpunk 2077 already and no not because I think it’ll share anything in common with it gameplay wise or even the disastrous launch (lets hope not), but because of massive overhype.

 

Ironically I feel it’s the opposite though. CDPR began hyping up Cyberpunk 2077 years in advance yet with GTA VI R* have only acknowledged its existence and it’s the fans overhyping it.

 

I suppose with every succeeding GTA they’ve become more and more susceptible to overhype especially when R* were trying to sell GTA V as their “most ambitious game to date” (lol. That’s what every developer says), but I am curious to see how R* tackle it.
 

Normally they’re pretty silent on matters anyway, but I’d love to know if they’ll push GTA VI as the greatest game in existence like they tried with GTA V and CDPR with Cyberpunk 2077 or maybe take a more subdued approach since it’s been so long between drinks.

[AkshayKumar]

I expect they will push GTA VI as their most ambitious game once they announce it formally. There have been rumours that GTA VI will take a grounded approach compared to GTA V from what I think I read on here and the net in general, but will that grounded approach extend to marketing? I don't think so I think they will push it big especially since it's their flagship and it's been a decade since their last GTA. They will likely want it to smash records in sales so all aboard the hype train maybe.

 

TBF with the fans overhyping VI thing (and I do agree with you on that for sure) it's been so long since V released that the long wait probably made people go wild with speculating and hyping lol. If you want to be optimistic there are popular games like Elden Ring (and maybe more ) recently that were hyped quite a bit (probably not Cyberpunk level) and went on to get popular acclaim.

 

GTA IV and V were successful with sales and critic scores but divisive with fan opinion (though GTA IV has aged really well when it comes to being remembered), VI will probably go down that route too regardless of how much they hype it, then again I'm just another internet face with an opinion. We will have to see eventually.

 

I wonder if VI will beat V in sales. V was sold on three console generations I don't know if VI will have that same reach. GTA IV sold marginally less than San Andreas according to wiki stats iirc maybe for different reasons but there is precedent, then again there are probably more gamers today than 2013?

Edited August 1 by AkshayKumar

[Americana]

3 hours ago, Algonquin Assassin said:

I suppose with every succeeding GTA they’ve become more and more susceptible to overhype especially when R* were trying to sell GTA V as their “most ambitious game to date”

 

It's 2022 and I still can't see what's so ambitious about Grand Theft Auto V. 

Edited August 1 by Americana

[Carbonox]

So this isn't a huge revelation or anything, but I was recently reminded of the fact Vice City only has a grand total of 21 missions mandatory for story completion and 28 when including as few optional asset missions as possible, provided that watching the Pole Position stripper counts as one. I already knew Avery, the Cuban-Haitian gang wars, Phil and the phone missions didn't count, but even All Hands on Deck and the Love Fist/Bikers arc turned out to not contribute to unlocking the ending either, as if the number wasn't already small enough.

 

Now what if this was because they had designed this short main story during the time when it was still planned to be a spinoff of GTA 3, and as it developed into a full game, Rockstar went into a bit of a panic mode since they couldn't come up with enough new story missions to pad things out, so they ended up creating those aforementioned strands in a bit of a rush, and left Cap the Collector's unlock condition ambiguous on purpose to create the illusion of a much bigger game and longer story?

[GTA Plus Enjoyer]

On 8/1/2022 at 6:58 PM, Americana said:

 

It's 2022 and I still can't see what's so ambitious about Grand Theft Auto V. 

 

Maybe the amount of content they were able to push into 7-8 year old hardware at the time, 3 playable protagonists, etc. Of course, we saw how it ended - with some of the best features from GTA IV & previous GTAs completely getting removed or nerfed. Them calling it ambitious was most likely just marketing talk.

Edited August 3 by GTA Plus Enjoyer

[AkshayKumar]

GTA V did introduce features that will likely be a part of the games to come like multiple protagonists, wildlife, eventually first person mode. Had it's own interesting gimmicks like special abilities, stock market which may not have been universally popular but added character to the game imo. Had a crazy large map; even if you disregard all the mountains it's still got towns, countryside, a sorta-desert, a full fledged underwater and a city as big as Liberty City. 

 

It may not have been as ambitious as could have been maybe, but I think it's perhaps worth more than a lot give credit for. 

 

1 hour ago, Carbonox said:

I already knew Avery...didn't count

What?! 

I knew the rest didn't count but didn't know about the Avery missions. So you mean to say the Demolition Man struggles were for nothing

Kinda like San Andreas' zero missions, all the struggle to later find they weren't necessary to finish the story

Edited August 3 by AkshayKumar