The identity of the person who revealed the map images about the gta6 @VG_Marketing 2018 -2021

[R___045201]

someone who claims to work for a marketing company that's working with r*. 

 

- I am a AAA marketer with inside knowledge on GTA VI. and I work for a marketing company working with Rockstar for the next GTA title and have lots of information!. 

 

They also go into details that someone just working at a marketing company just wouldn't know about the game. Sure, they'd know about the map, some about the characters, and some general things about the game. But specifics like combat mechanics, missions, and other stuff they've commented on just wouldn't make sense for someone working at a marketing company to know.

 

RaFik |10 k VI_Newz on Twitter: "someone who claims to work for a marketing company that's working with r*. - I am a AAA marketer with inside knowledge on GTA VI. and I work for a marketing company working with Rockstar for the next GTA title and have lots of information!. @VG_Marketing https://t.co/ToaL94lQ03" / Twitter

[Jason]

There is absolutely no reason why Rockstar would work with or consult with a third party marketing group on a product that has not been announced. They have their own people for that.

[MrBreak16]

Yeah I know this guy, he post these "leaks" on reddit which sounds fake, unrealistic and he says things that Rockstar Games would never do. Here is his reddit profile if you guys want to read some of his bs: https://www.reddit.com/user/GTA_VI_Leak/

Edited January 20, 2021 by MrBreak16

[DarkDayz]

On 1/15/2021 at 11:09 PM, Jason said:

There is absolutely no reason why Rockstar would work with or consult with a third party marketing group on a product that has not been announced. They have their own people for that.

 

Sorry mate not true. Rockstar use third party agencies for their marketing. Especially if they are trying to target foreign territories.

 

It is pretty well known that Rockstar spend an insane amount of money with different agencies around the globe. The GTA V global campaign cost anywhere from $60m-$100m. As a comparison, some of the world's biggest alcohol campaigns by companies like Diageo often only spend $10m. 

 

https://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/agencies-line-5m-rockstar-media/1297427#:~:text=The developer currently works with,its violent and adult content.

https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/gta-6-could-be-coming-in-2023-according-to-a-marketing-budget-from-take-two/#:~:text=A marketing budget for publisher,2023 and ends March 2024.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-02-01-gta-v-dev-costs-over-USD137-million-says-analyst

 

Wether this guy is legit or not is another thing. Nobody in a big marketing agency would do anything like this. Any 'leaks' made by marketing agencies would be with strategy and intent. Nobody is going to risk their multi million tender to leak a bit of news online, especially when they probably have insanely strict NDA's. No chance.

 

If it's the same guy that keeps posting to Reddit, he is not legit. I see him regularly post things that are contradictory to what Rockstar themselves put in the media in pre-release interviews specifically about the order and manners in which they craft a game.

 

 

Edited January 20, 2021 by darkdayz

[el carlitos]

This guys goes very much into detail. I mean it´s possible that he knows all these details from working for a marketing company. He is talking the truth or he is very good liar. I mean he makes very much the impression to me, that he is not much into gaming but saw a lot of stuff from the game, stuff which could be shown at meetings etc. stuff that you show to marketing department to prepare marketing which could take also 1year+.

 

We should copy the "leaks" here and check if anything is true whenever R* announces the game.

[DistractedJack]

Don't think this is true lol. They wouldn't use third-party marketing. 

[el carlitos]

14 minutes ago, DistractedJack said:

Don't think this is true lol. They wouldn't use third-party marketing. 

I wouldn´t be too sure about that. Not saying leak it´s true, but not because of the fact that it´s about a third-party marketing company. It´s not unusual even for big companies. I mean the marketing for a new GTA game is huge and need resources. Why should R* pay for own huge marketing department, when they need this service only before game launch which is every few years and when they just can hire a third-party company when it´s needed, pay for the service and that´s it. Sure R* does have a marketing department but I´m sure they get additional third-party companies into the boat when needed.

As mentioned not saying leak it´s true but also not saying that it has to be bs. When I read the stuff it´s kind of plausible.

[DistractedJack]

Big company's like R* might use third-party marketing if they really needed it. The more advertising and attention to their service increases profit of course, so I wouldn't blame them for using third-party marketing. I have mixed feeling about this. This person could be or could not be working for R* but again we have no idea. I think everyone should be patient and stop bugging R* for GTA 6. They will do it in there own time. People that say they work for R* and have leaks etc are possibly doing it for clout/attention. Rockstar wouldn't employ someone who leaks their services/content. Even if they did they would be fired on the spot.

 

-Distracted Jack

Edited January 20, 2021 by DistractedJack
Needed to add more

[DarkDayz]

12 minutes ago, DistractedJack said:

Big company's like R* might use third-party marketing if they really needed it. The more advertising and attention to their service increases profit of course, so I wouldn't blame them for using third-party marketing. I have mixed feeling about this. This person could be or could not be working for R* but again we have no idea. I think everyone should be patient and stop bugging R* for GTA 6. They will do it in there own time. People that say they work for R* and have leaks etc are possibly doing it for clout/attention. Rockstar wouldn't employ someone who leaks their services/content. Even if they did they would be fired on the spot.

 

-Distracted Jack

 

I see you edited your original comment.

 

Rockstar currently work with UM London in the UK for media planning. Previously they worked with MJ Media (now Once Upon A Time)

https://www.thedrum.com/news/2014/08/06/rockstar-games-hands-5m-media-account-um-london

 

It is just entirely not possible that anybody that Rockstar works with would leak anything on Reddit. 

 

Edited January 20, 2021 by darkdayz

[DistractedJack]

5 minutes ago, darkdayz said:

 

I see you edited your original comment.

 

Rockstar currently work with UM London in the UK for media planning. Previously they worked with MJ Media (now Once Upon A Time)

https://www.thedrum.com/news/2014/08/06/rockstar-games-hands-5m-media-account-um-london

 

 

 

Thank you for stating that.

[Jason]

2 hours ago, darkdayz said:

Sorry mate not true. Rockstar use third party agencies for their marketing. Especially if they are trying to target foreign territories.

 

It is pretty well known that Rockstar spend an insane amount of money with different agencies around the globe. The GTA V global campaign cost anywhere from $60m-$100m. As a comparison, some of the world's biggest alcohol campaigns by companies like Diageo often only spend $10m. 

 

Yea, they work with marketing companies on games announced and getting close to release. Why would they be working with one on a game not announced? Rockstar marketing when they announce a game is done through their own socials these days.

[DarkDayz]

18 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Yea, they work with marketing companies on games announced and getting close to release. Why would they be working with one on a game not announced? Rockstar marketing when they announce a game is done through their own socials these days.

 

They are probably working with agencies on various things. Games at market, games not announced, company branding and image. Points of purchase for their advertising, ad messaging. Where the spend goes for anything that is paid geographically. There's thousands of aspects to marketing outside of what we see when they upload something.

[navvar]

On 1/20/2021 at 1:08 PM, DarkDayz said:

 

If it's the same guy that keeps posting to Reddit, he is not legit. I see him regularly post things that are contradictory to what Rockstar themselves put in the media in pre-release interviews specifically about the order and manners in which they craft a game.

 

 

Would you mind elaborating?

 

I'm not in the industry so I'm unable to give an objective opinion on the guy being legit or not. Although one should take what he has to say with a grain of salt, I think a lot of it is plausible enough that I wouldn't dismiss it entirely - the guy has been at it almost every day for 8 months answering questions in detail.

 

If it's a ''haha, got you'' scheme then I really don't know what to say, because most people are gonna be highly sceptical until official info is released anyway. And if it's a call for a small amount of attention, then it's the most elaborate attempt I've seen at that.

[nicktestbranch]

I've been pegging this guy for months over a few fallacies:

 

- I work for marketing, a highly-responsible position to ensure the product is excellently promoted, and while I normally don't have the nitty-gritty details of the product, I know its selling points far more than Point A to B. But I apparently know way too much about the game, and just HAD to share it to Reddit because holy sh*t so cool they let my unprofessional ass on this

- Working for marketing, I am ignoring not only the set practice for promoting the product that has been tried-and-true for decades, I'm also tossing out common sense like a Russian whistleblower. IDGAF if anything happens to me. Besides, they get rid of me, I could potentially put my fellow workers at risk if information I received was irrelevant, and coming under NDA.

- I've been doing this for years, so I perfectly understand how my words on the internet can disappear overnight. Nothing to worry about, the minute I get wind Rockstar has knowledge of the leaks and which department, I'll delete it all, totally ignoring there are things called removeddit, Google Cache, the Wayback Machine, and generally people who copy my words into .txt files so they can keep track for personal reasons and won't share them

- Best of all, I'm on reddit in case you didn't know. Years and years of credible leaks on GTA Forums thanks to a rigorous process that "respected" leakers are vetted through by the site's crack moderation team, piss on that, I'll start a generic-sounding GTA VI Leaks account on Reddit where I post all my leaks on it

- Oh and did I mention there's no way you can be tracked on the internet?

- Also if Rockstar saw any of these and took it down, they risk making it look real!

- I saw the map, and despite being in marketing and can memorize tons of unnecessary details that even my own job would barely need to cover, I can't draw the goddamned map for the life of me or consult anyone to assist in it as if we're doing a suspect sketch.

 

So in a rare moment where the bullsh*tter calls out the bullsh*t, I'm 99% sure this guy has posted a beautiful fanfic that they couldn't resist posting somehow. The sources and likelihood of his supposed knowledge though is near-impossible. While I think he's full of sh*t and leading people on, he is by far one of the most dedicated for letting countless GTA fans flock to his account to read detail-by-detail what could be in the next game. And he never, ever stops, and despite not being credible, you might as well put up a fake story about your credentials as the "my friend works there" trope is stale, nobody buys it. I'm mildly entertained, and to a degree impressed he wastes this much time on it.

 

However, there it is. The one reason I believe there's a 1% chance he could be real, and that's solely in how much time he's put into it for so long. Granted there is a pandemic, but even with the long games of complete lies I've told, I get exhausted. So kudos, GTA_VI_Leak. You have tried to bullsh*t the bullsh*tter, but maybe the bullsh*t was the friendship we made along the journey.

[Volatollotalov]

On 3/18/2021 at 2:11 AM, nicktestbranch said:

However, there it is. The one reason I believe there's a 1% chance he could be real, and that's solely in how much time he's put into it for so long. Granted there is a pandemic, but even with the long games of complete lies I've told, I get exhausted. So kudos, GTA_VI_Leak. You have tried to bullsh*t the bullsh*tter, but maybe the bullsh*t was the friendship we made along the journey.

 

I think you're being too generous. To me, the persistency and quantity of this "leaker's" drivel only compounds the certainty that he hasn't got a clue. He doesn't know his Lârss from his Elbö.

 

On 1/20/2021 at 2:12 PM, DarkDayz said:

Rockstar currently work with UM London in the UK for media planning. Previously they worked with MJ Media (now Once Upon A Time)

https://www.thedrum.com/news/2014/08/06/rockstar-games-hands-5m-media-account-um-london

 

It is just entirely not possible that anybody that Rockstar works with would leak anything on Reddit. 

 

 

Not anymore, that was nearly seven years ago. Typically a studio like Rockstar might work with a few different agencies depending on what they want. Rockstar's marketing team is based from the New York office.

 

Put it this way: that was just a £5m contract, probably only for some UK work. The global marketing budget for Six could easily be $100m+

 

[Lioshenka]

On 1/20/2021 at 12:08 PM, DarkDayz said:

Wether this guy is legit or not is another thing. Nobody in a big marketing agency would do anything like this. Any 'leaks' made by marketing agencies would be with strategy and intent. Nobody is going to risk their multi million tender to leak a bit of news online, especially when they probably have insanely strict NDA's. No chance.

Don't underestimate people's stupidity. While any "official" leaks will be pre-approved by the client, you can never discount some idiot in the reception leaking a genuine piece of information they saw on someone's desk because they want to bring down the violent patriarchal culture of oppression or something.

 

Or think about an innocent selfie someone takes in the office forgetting about the next project timeline expressed in detail on the whiteboard behind them. We've seen a few of these :D

Edited April 1, 2021 by Lioshenka

[nicktestbranch]

On 4/1/2021 at 10:12 AM, Lioshenka said:

Don't underestimate people's stupidity. While any "official" leaks will be pre-approved by the client, you can never discount some idiot in the reception leaking a genuine piece of information they saw on someone's desk because they want to bring down the violent patriarchal culture of oppression or something.

 

Or think about an innocent selfie someone takes in the office forgetting about the next project timeline expressed in detail on the whiteboard behind them. We've seen a few of these

The old whiteboard leak is a classic as you're typically able to track the source, the department, as long as it's the person taking the selfie who posts the photo. It's also a great way to stage a fake leak if done just right, and fairly easy to mildly convince people. However, the piece that would appear to confirm the source as valid is crucial, and requires something fairly elaborate that I won't get into detail about as anybody could take my comments like a "How to Fake a Leak Playbook" and my own method of discounting a fake leak would be challenging.

 

Then again it may also give way to people comparing leaks that could be one way or the other, to the rules in a said book, and healthy skepticism could build for a lot of people. They would go "oh yeah, rule 4, dumbass leaker took an intentional blurry image like it was spur of the moment and iPhones aren't stable, this is fake." It would be hilarious and fairly ironic considering I enjoy calling out my very own bullsh*t, almost like highly-skilled hackers turning into security advisors.