AmyStone Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 hours ago, CosmicBuffalo said: Maybe watch more twitch. Its simply a repetitive act of playing with PIB...these people flop after each shot and look pathetic. I don't think Twitch is a good indication of the average player. Are you coming up with that figure based on the streamers' scores? You aren't going to get poor players streaming on Twitch. I think if you went by the score cards at the end of the game you would see that 90%+ of players get nowhere near that. Do not Bogart that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyStone Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 54 minutes ago, Do not Bogart that said: 50-2 KD or less I'd call it a cheat. If he dies more often it will simply be way harder to get back into the fight again and again. There are a lot of cheaters in Showdowns. It's why I only bother to do them now when it's a daily to finish the set of 7. There are players who beat me who do it legit and you can tell they are just very accurate and fast. Then there's a huge jump to the ability of the Cronus (aim bot) users. They stay in deadeye constantly, get instant one shot kills 100% of the time and take next to no damage. They are quite easy to spot so I leave when I recognise them. Do not Bogart that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonko Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Guys, it's old news but PVP is a joke in RDO. Lonely-Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do not Bogart that Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 48 minutes ago, tonko said: Guys, it's old news but PVP is a joke in RDO. Fair enough, it could be better... yes! But afaic I get my fair portion of daily fun and gold out of the Shootouts and Free-Roam-Events. And after finishing '7/7 & 9/9' it's yet one of the only methods to earn gold while actually 'playing' the game (not that I'd still have to grind). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do not Bogart that Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 7 hours ago, AmyStone said: There are a lot of cheaters in Showdowns. It's why I only bother to do them now when it's a daily to finish the set of 7. There are players who beat me who do it legit and you can tell they are just very accurate and fast. Then there's a huge jump to the ability of the Cronus (aim bot) users. They stay in deadeye constantly, get instant one shot kills 100% of the time and take next to no damage. They are quite easy to spot so I leave when I recognise them. This plus the score card 90% who'll never even make a 20+ kills average - my exact point, thanks. I don't wanna pick on a specific number(s) but from now on, I'm definately going to keep my eyes open. As I'm always up for the competition/fight (I play against the lvl.1000s - don't vote them out please) and probably to stubborn to really spot an aim-botter (cheater), I hardly ever rash exit the session as well as I feel a certain responsibility to my team... but right, the moment I realize s.b. is 'continuously one-shot headshooting me with a Evans-Repeater after circling 28 times' and I just cannot snipe that fu.king hat of their heads with my long scope Carcano (or it magically reappears the next moment without him/her picking it up) I will first of all yell at my TV then hardcore Karate-fight the living room furniture, then exit the shootout and restock ammo before I foolishly go back in for some more :-D... Have a nice day and stay healthy, y'all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBuffalo Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, AmyStone said: I don't think Twitch is a good indication of the average player. Are you coming up with that figure based on the streamers' scores? You aren't going to get poor players streaming on Twitch. I think if you went by the score cards at the end of the game you would see that 90%+ of players get nowhere near that. Did I say an average player...I think you said that. I said slightly above average players which are, unfortunately, the only people that stream this game...because its a dead game. So, this is all we have. Nothing impressive and maybe they are expert gamers, but its hard to believe expert gamers would be broadcasting themselves killing 50 noobs using some trash mechanics while they are flopping around looking like a clown. I have replicated their tactics and got 30+ kills with little effort. I think showdowns are a shadeless boring than collector. Want to know whats even more boring, watching someone actually play them. It takes approximately 15-20 minutes to see exactly how they get this many kills. I would rather walk right up to a flopper and blast him with a shotgun because its funny...people who take showdowns serious with PIB and no lobby choice, give me a break. Edited January 18, 2021 by CosmicBuffalo XerostarTG and tonko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyStone Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just to get this back on topic. It seems that the problem doesn't affect everyone. At least not all of the time. Mark has experienced this in the past but doesn't have an issue at the moment. Tonight we did some tests and there is a clear difference in the paint speed between our two characters. We have the same ability cards. Me with a delay: Mark with no delay: Is anyone else experiencing this? I've raised a ticket for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StyxTx Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 36 minutes ago, AmyStone said: Just to get this back on topic. It seems that the problem doesn't affect everyone. At least not all of the time. Mark has experienced this in the past but doesn't have an issue at the moment. Tonight we did some tests and there is a clear difference in the paint speed between our two characters. We have the same ability cards. Me with a delay: Mark with no delay: Is anyone else experiencing this? I've raised a ticket for it. I can give you the response to your ticket. Verify your files, update the drivers for your graphics card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyStone Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, StyxTx said: I can give you the response to your ticket. Verify your files, update the drivers for your graphics card. PS5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direwrath Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, AmyStone said: Just to get this back on topic. It seems that the problem doesn't affect everyone. At least not all of the time. Mark has experienced this in the past but doesn't have an issue at the moment. Tonight we did some tests and there is a clear difference in the paint speed between our two characters. We have the same ability cards. Me with a delay I've always had the delay that you do, no matter which gun and what cards I have equipped with PIB. Been wondering why people were so upset over the PIB card being used because it was always so slow to work for me? But after seeing Mark's video I can see why that card can be used to get the upper hand. Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonely-Martin Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 @AmyStone. Just a thought, could be way off but worth a mention. Are you on wifi and the other chap on a wired connection? Just in case that has any effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyStone Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said: @AmyStone. Just a thought, could be way off but worth a mention. Are you on wifi and the other chap on a wired connection? Just in case that has any effect. No I have the playstation on a wired connection. I have thought about trying using my phone data to see if that makes a difference. If anything it should be worse but it's worth trying anything really. The odd thing is that it used to be perfectly fine. It only started being delayed about a week ago. 12 minutes ago, Direwrath said: I've always had the delay that you do, no matter which gun and what cards I have equipped with PIB. Been wondering why people were so upset over the PIB card being used because it was always so slow to work for me? But after seeing Mark's video I can see why that card can be used to get the upper hand. Wow! This is how fast it used to paint for me. It's a very recent thing. Direwrath 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonely-Martin Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, AmyStone said: No I have the playstation on a wired connection. I have thought about trying using my phone data to see if that makes a difference. If anything it should be worse but it's worth trying anything really. The odd thing is that it used to be perfectly fine. It only started being delayed about a week ago. Ahh, no worries. Like you, I imagine the phone data not being any better but it's surely worth trying just in case. It's a bit weird how this game can be so good for one but not so for the next player. Damn gremlins in RDRO, lol. Hopefully we see a better year from R* as last year it did seem to take a backseat to GTA towards the end. The game needs going over with a fine tooth comb of QoL with upcoming contents. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direwrath Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 hours ago, AmyStone said: This is how fast it used to paint for me. It's a very recent thing. Darn, this whole time I just thought that PIB was deliberately slowed to stop players from spamming it, and it was my character all along. It's why I removed the card in the first place because it just didn't seem to be of much assistance to me. So this is good to know. Now if they could fix it for everyone that would be nice. 2 hours ago, Lonely-Martin said: Are you on wifi and the other chap on a wired connection? My console is hard-lined to the modem, but I do use wireless controllers. Would that have any effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonely-Martin Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Direwrath said: My console is hard-lined to the modem, but I do use wireless controllers. Would that have any effect? I don't believe so, but I'm not 100% as I'm not too sure about the technical aspects of it all really. Just see people mention lag or the like when on wifi for GTA so much and along with this being a P2P game too, I'm sure if the host of any given session for either game isn't having the best internet connections, could have knock on effects around a lobby. Direwrath 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StyxTx Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 10 hours ago, AmyStone said: PS5? In that case they'll tell you to clear your cache. 1 hour ago, Lonely-Martin said: I don't believe so, but I'm not 100% as I'm not too sure about the technical aspects of it all really. Just see people mention lag or the like when on wifi for GTA so much and along with this being a P2P game too, I'm sure if the host of any given session for either game isn't having the best internet connections, could have knock on effects around a lobby. The host does play a big part in how the game functions. In solo lobbies things worked a lot more quickly and it was quite easy to see the difference. Even the drawing speeds are faster as well as fast travel and loading into the game. Direwrath and Lonely-Martin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarksunDaFirst Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 9:46 PM, AmyStone said: No I have the playstation on a wired connection. I have thought about trying using my phone data to see if that makes a difference. If anything it should be worse but it's worth trying anything really. The odd thing is that it used to be perfectly fine. It only started being delayed about a week ago. This is how fast it used to paint for me. It's a very recent thing. Have to second this because I used PiB a lot when using bows (mainly for hunting, but also versus SB Scopers). I always got near instantaneous paint when using PiB, so long as the reticle was over the player center-mass or head already. If you're near the edge of their box, it typically wouldn't mark them (which I would prefer, I need a painful/lethal hit, not a grazing flesh wound). If they changed it to nerf it...ugh, that would really hinder the counter to the SB Scopers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyStone Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 8 hours ago, DarksunDaFirst said: Have to second this because I used PiB a lot when using bows (mainly for hunting, but also versus SB Scopers). I always got near instantaneous paint when using PiB, so long as the reticle was over the player center-mass or head already. If you're near the edge of their box, it typically wouldn't mark them (which I would prefer, I need a painful/lethal hit, not a grazing flesh wound). If they changed it to nerf it...ugh, that would really hinder the counter to the SB Scopers. I've played around with it a bit more to try to figure out what's going on. It seems that if you activate deadeye and move the cursor slowly over the body then it will paint fairly quickly. But if you move the cursor fast (and to the head in a smooth action) then there is a delay. If I was going to take a guess then it would be that this is an intentional change to stop the rapid headshots. But this means that PiB will only give you body shots - which you get get anyway from just using auto-aim with no aim adjustment. Also, if you managed to accurately aim on the head and before any targets have been painted, when you pull the trigger the gun with jerk upwards which sends the shot over the top of their head. All this kind of makes the card completely pointless now as there is no real defense with this card against slippery or slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUT THE BENZ Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 I will have to look closely into that aswell, using PiB here since "day 1". after the last update something felt a bit different about shooting?! maybe? I couldn't pin-point it right now - and remembering the hideout at quaker's cove, which I've turned into a slaughter-house this morning, I must say I placed and pulled off the headshots I was aiming for. my hands and reactions play a big part in this I suppose, the motor skills that I bring to the table. sometimes I just got a good steady hand with fluent aiming 'n sh*t, and sometimes I'm just shooting left and right and up in the sky, not in sync with my character, always slightly off. don't know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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