GTA V isn't as bad as you think

[RobeX]

idk why it gets a lot of hate from the community

[FanEu7]

The latest GTA always gets the most hate (at least since social media became mainstream). GTA IV was bashed so much for years and now since V released its getting more appreciation (which is great).

 

I think V will be appreciated more after VI. It doesn't help that Rockstar has been focusing so much on Online and cancelled SP DLC back in 2014 so people are frustrated. Overall GTA V is great 

 

Edited January 1, 2021 by FanEu7

[Homicidal Hipster]

No one thinks it is. Just the mass disappointment gta fan forum bullsh*t that happens with every release as the vice city and SA fans get older and bitter. Vs fine if you think people universally hate it you’re looking in the wrong place my friend 

[REVENGE777]

Anyone that’s cares about the franchise and has been following it since the beginning knows it’s a pretty underdeveloped mess. The shifts in quality of story and gameplay from IV and SA are pretty apparent. V is a very “middling” game, which for Gta standards, is pretty terrible. It’s an average game in its own merit but as a mainline GTA title it falls flat in some of the most important areas.

[Algonquin Assassin]

I think it’s pretty sh*tty when people say it’s a 2/10 game or something, but thankfully that’s the minority.

 

In general I think people are pretty fair and measured though. The problem is I feel is some people act too much in extremes. Praise something you’re a rabid fanboy. Criticise something you’re a toxic hater. Whatever happened to a middle ground?

 

I like GTA V for what it is, but the fact is many of the criticisms are warranted. It doesn’t mean some people can’t appreciate other aspects however.
 

But this is always going to happen with big AAA releases. For recent examples look no further than games like TLOU2 or Cyberpunk 2077.  Even RDR2 has its fair share of detractors.

 

 

 

 

Edited January 3, 2021 by Algonquin Assassin

[B Dawg]

The game is objectively a massive downgrade in comparison to IV, and even the older games in some ways (and you can't blame console limitations for this or at least not for the majority of it's issues, especially ones that weren't present in San Andreas which came out 9 years before V):

 

 

 

I only wish there was a ''GTA SA is better than GTA V'' video in Crowbcat's style (one could honestly be made), because from what I've seen, all the other youtubers focus on the less important aspects and don't give nearly as much attention (if any) into the gameplay mechanics themselves.

Edited January 3, 2021 by B Dawg

[Ryo256]

GTA V isn't as bad as I think?

Well gosh, I'm totally convinced now and rate it as 11/10! Thank you for showing me the light.

[Fake Lilina]

To be honest, the most hated GTA games nowadays are Online, LCS, and Advance (Plus the Game Boy games).

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I'm going to be honest with you guys, I may still dislike GTA V.

 

But I will say that I do not dislike the game as much as I did when I first joined the forums. Heck I was very upset when I found out that this game was coming to PS5/Series X.

 

Not long ago, I played the PS3 version again just to give it one more chance and my goodness. It felt like I was playing a ACTUAL GTA game.

 

I still somewhat dislike it, but not as much as I used to. In fact, I think it's alright.

[Algonquin Assassin]

1 hour ago, Fake Lilina said:

To be honest, the most hated GTA games nowadays are Online, LCS, and Advance (Plus the Game Boy games).

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I'm going to be honest with you guys, I may still dislike GTA V.

 

But I will say that I do not dislike the game as much as I did when I first joined the forums. Heck I was very upset when I found out that this game was coming to PS5/Series X.

 

Not long ago, I played the PS3 version again just to give it one more chance and my goodness. It felt like I was playing a ACTUAL GTA game.

 

I still somewhat dislike it, but not as much as I used to. In fact, I think it's alright.

As much as I dislike certain aspects of GTA V that are quite unforgivable and inexcusable (I hate it when people use that “console limitations” bullsh*t excuse) I can’t deny underneath there’s a hidden gem somewhere, but that also makes it a bit disappointing because I thought this game was going to make GTA IV and other GTA games obsolete giving me no reason to go back to them.

 

I guess it’s my fault for building up that sort of hype and expectation in my mind though. The funny thing with GTA V is when I first played it I was still on a new game high so its cracks didn’t show up until later on. I’ve spent years blurring the lines whether I like it or I don’t which doesn’t happen with other GTA games besides San Andreas. I either like them or I don’t.

At this point in time I just try to accept GTA V for it is, but there’ll always be parts that disappoint me when I think about the enormous development budget it had, marketing campaign, dev team and so on.

 

Edited January 4, 2021 by Algonquin Assassin

[Max Payne]

Feds in the story are annoying but i think it’s alright gameplay wise in free roam.

[Fake Lilina]

Fun Fact: This is the first GTA game I beaten.

[KingAJ032304]

On 1/3/2021 at 10:48 PM, Payne said:

Feds in the story are annoying but i think it’s alright gameplay wise in free roam.

Always thought that was a weird complaint.

[TWIST_OF_HATE]

whatever

Edited January 17, 2021 by TWIST_OF_HATE

[TimMiller]

GTA 5 is a technical marble. No other open world game except RDR2 has this amount of amazing details, deep gameplay and realistic animations in it.

I think after the painful launch of Cyberpunk2077 (even without the game breaking bugs and glitches this game is so hollow) people started to realize how polished and ahead of its time GTA 5 truly was.

 

 

[REVENGE777]

45 minutes ago, TheDamnTrainCJ said:

GTA 5 is a technical marble. No other open world game except RDR2 has this amount of amazing details, deep gameplay and realistic animations in it.

 

 

Uhhhh GTA IV???

 

[B Dawg]

GTA 5 & Deep gameplay 

Edited January 18, 2021 by B Dawg

[Excalibur Voltaire]

Why does GTA V fanboys keep whining about how other people have different opinion on the game?

 

(Rhetorical question here)

Edited January 18, 2021 by Western Gunslinger

[FanEu7]

7 hours ago, SonofLosSantos said:

Uhhhh GTA IV???

 

 

GTA IV is better in terms of physics but the world in V feels more alive and real (especially on the PS4/Xbox One). Even so many years later there is no open world game of that type that compares. Look at Mafia 3 or the Watch Dogs series or Cyberpunk..

3 hours ago, Western Gunslinger said:

Why does GTA V fanboys keep whining about how other people have different opinion on the game?

 

(Rhetorical question here)

Because its frustrating when the game basically just gets hate here..criticism is fine but when its 99% hate its annoying. I'm sure you would say the same if it was RDR2 getting the hate

[REVENGE777]

13 minutes ago, FanEu7 said:

 

GTA IV is better in terms of physics but the world in V feels more alive and real (especially on the PS4/Xbox One). Even so many years later there is no open world game of that type that compares. Look at Mafia 3 or the Watch Dogs series or Cyberpunk..

Because its frustrating when the game basically just gets hate here..criticism is fine but when its 99% hate its annoying. I'm sure you would say the same if it was RDR2 getting the hate

bro watch the videos B Dawg posted and tell me in good faith that V is better than IV in any of the things you listed. You’re being biased. I don’t care how frustrating it is, you can’t just ignore how much of a downgrade V is. In IV people are actually going about their daily lives doing stuff and the environment feels like a hustling bustling city. In V everybody just stands around waiting to call the police, run around screaming, or get run over. if you bump into a ped thats sitting down they instantly die. What the f*ck kinda sh*t is that???

Edited January 18, 2021 by SonofLosSantos

[Excalibur Voltaire]

3 hours ago, FanEu7 said:

Because its frustrating when the game basically just gets hate here..criticism is fine but when its 99% hate its annoying.

 "Some meanie said mean thing about my favorite game"

6 hours ago, FanEu7 said:

I'm sure you would say the same if it was RDR2 getting the hate

I criticize RDRII where I see it

[Niobium]

On 1/1/2021 at 8:13 AM, RobeX said:

idk why it gets a lot of hate from the community

 

the hate that GTA V gets is something only people who play the GTA games religiously would understand.... i'm not trying to say "you're not a real fan!" or anything like that but things like the downgraded melee combat, mediocre property management and aggressive police AI is something only hardcore GTA fans who play the games regularly would notice.

Edited January 19, 2021 by Niobium

[Dr Busta]

7 hours ago, Niobium said:

 

the hate that GTA V gets is something only people who play the GTA games religiously would understand.... i'm not trying to say "you're not a real fan!" or anything like that but things like the downgraded melee combat, mediocre property management and aggressive police AI is something only hardcore GTA fans who play the games regularly would notice.

Exactly

I don't blame people for having an actual life and not taking a video seriously 

[kobeni]

because everyone here is an annoying gatekeeper just ignore them

 

i personally prefer gta iv over gta v but thats not to say that i didn't enjoy the latter.  while im not a fan of the story and characters i feel the game excels pretty well in other areas, like the driving, shooting/covering and for nailing that general early-2010s socal atmosphere. i feel people give it way too much sh*t sometimes.

Edited January 19, 2021 by DownInThePMs

[FanEu7]

15 hours ago, Western Gunslinger said:

 "Some meanie said mean thing about my favorite game"

I criticize RDRII where I see it

 

like I said criticism is fine, mindless bashing isn't

10 hours ago, Niobium said:

 

the hate that GTA V gets is something only people who play the GTA games religiously would understand.... i'm not trying to say "you're not a real fan!" or anything like that but things like the downgraded melee combat, mediocre property management and aggressive police AI is something only hardcore GTA fans who play the games regularly would notice.

 

I'm a "hardcore" GTA fan and still love it. Property management was never something that's needed in a GTA game. The downgraded melee combat is a shame but doesn't make it bad. And the aggressive police AI makes it more challenging

[El Zodape]

V is an amazing game and is another worthy entry in the franchise, despite what they'll tell you here. GTA IV got way more hate than V when it released because while it did a lot of great things in terms of engine physics and gameplay, it scaled back a lot from San Andreas in terms of sheer amount of features and general variety of, well, ANYTHING (SA had an extremely varied map, extensive character customization, a loooooot of weapons, planes, boats, jetpacks, car customization, you name it). GTA IV didn't even have planes, something that was present since f*cking Vice City lmao. So yeah, this rightfully so pissed off a sh*tton of people and the game was shunned for a loooong time. It took GTA V to release so people could appreciate the things it did right.

 

Similar thing is happening with V (but not nearly to the same extent). Some deluded people here think that "when VI releases nobody will miss V! I-It's not same case as IV!" lmao f*ck off. You're gonna tell me that the most succesful PRODUCT IN HISTORY that still sells like hotcakes almost a DECADE after it's been released, will be remembered as "just some mediocre game"? Are you people seriously this high on copium? GTA V will be fondly remembered by the majority wether you like it or not. Look, people love IV and you don't see me complaining about it! It's really such a trivial thing to complain about.

 

And for the record, I'm not saying that More sales = Better product. We're talking about the general consensus about the game after all. Making that clear just in case.

 

I do agree with a lot of the criticisms to V though, regarding physics, car deformation, health system, police being really aggressive and so on. But I also think that V also refined a lot of aspects in gameplay such as the shooting, driving, cover system. And also added back a lot of features missing from San Andreas, which adds a lot of replay value. Overall I also think it has better missions and better pacing than IV (Scouting the Port is still the worst mission in history though), I could go on but I can't be arsed to since this is besides the point of the thread.

 

San Andreas is better than both anyways lmao

 

On 1/18/2021 at 8:54 AM, B Dawg said:

GTA 5 & Deep gameplay 

 

To be fair no GTA game has deep gameplay. Driving and Shooting has always ranged from clunky at worst to serviceable at best. What GTA does good is how the mediocre gameplay elements work well together in a sandbox.

Edited January 19, 2021 by El Zodape

[REVENGE777]

5 hours ago, DownInThePMs said:

i feel the game excels pretty well in other areas, like the driving, shooting/covering....

Boy you drunk as sh*t. The driving is arcadey as hell, the handling flags keep cars from going full speed and if you crash into a car going full speed you come to a complete stop. There’s no reason why if I’m driving a semi truck and I hit a smart car that I come to a 100% complete stop. The driving isn’t “better” by any stretch of the imagination, it’s just much more accessible to a casual audience. The first two saints row games had better driving physics than V and one of those games is 15 years old!

 

the shooting takes zero skill. None. Nada. It’s just lazer like pinpoint accuracy with all of the guns being reskins of one another with minimum stat changes. And as far as cover goes, you can’t even crouch lol so do with that what you will. 
 

nobody is tryna gatekeep anybody but when we see bullsh*t and call it out that doesn’t make us the bad guys. People give these companies too much slack and are way too lenient, that’s why they feel like they can get away with watered down, bloated, empty boring games. If someone enjoys V over IV Thats their business but at the base fundamental level of the game, the core of the mechanics and the world Thats built around it, IV is UNDENIABLY better. Hands down no contest.

Edited January 19, 2021 by SonofLosSantos

[B Dawg]

2 minutes ago, SonofLosSantos said:

The driving is arcadey as hell

The first two saints row games had better driving physics than V and one of those games is 15 years old!

- Being arcadey isn't really a problem, but San Andreas definitely did do that better.

- No way any of the Saints Row games have driving better than GTA V (maybe better collision physics but not the driving itself).

[REVENGE777]

2 hours ago, B Dawg said:

- Being arcadey isn't really a problem, but San Andreas definitely did do that better.

- No way any of the Saints Row games have driving better than GTA V (maybe better collision physics but not the driving itself).

respectfully disagree. Being arcadey is a big downgrade from what we had in IV. but that’s an argument that will persist even without being brought up.

[REVENGE777]

5 hours ago, FanEu7 said:

The downgraded melee combat is a shame but doesn't make it bad. And the aggressive police AI makes it more challenging

the melee combat is awful. It’s on par with vice city or gta 3 levels of uselessness.

 

and the police are artificially difficult. they automatically ram you off the road with the slightest bump, they have a sixth sense to know where you are even without them reasonably being able to find you, and they will auto spawn in impossible locations like on top of mount chilliad. They’re super buffed up and have aimbot accuracy. None of that is in any way dynamic difficulty. it’s an artificial challenge. And most importantly, it’s just not FUN. It takes the sport out of rampaging. In IV you could flip the city on its head in a 6 star police war. You could actually engage in combat and escape but in V it’s just a race to outrun the polices line of sight before they snipe you from their helicopters.

[kobeni]

3 hours ago, SonofLosSantos said:

The first two saints row games had better driving physics than V and one of those games is 15 years old!

 

Hard disagree with saints row 2 man that game driving was clunky as hell.