How to jump the checkpoint to scope Cayo Perico as quickly as possible

[Jimbatron]

Happy New Year all!

 

If you're going to be playing the Cayo Perico Heist a lot, and don't know how to do this yet, it's possibly the best time saver going. You may or may not be aware, but it's possible to use a bike to jump the check point in the middle of the Island when you are doing the Intel Gathering mission (scoping). You can then ride the bike straight to the communications tower (the only compulsory part of the scoping). Suddenly the most tedious part of the heist becomes relatively painless. I've seen various people do this on speed run videos, but no one explain in detail how to pull this off every time. And that's important, because if you get spotted, you'll be booted back to the airport, and the bike that spawns there is confiscated.

 

Here's a very short video guide, with explanation below:

 

 

These are the important points when doing the jump:

 

1) Line up your bike in the position shown in the video. This is to the left of the small building before the checkpoint, and you will not get spotted here. So you can wait as long as you like and pick your moment to take the jump. You are aiming at the slope and need to ride between the two palm trees to the far left (these are helpful markers).

 

2) USE THE PAUSE SCREEN LARGE MAP TO CHECK THE POSITION OF THE GUARD IN THE TOWER. Don't rely on the mini-map radar: it's much less clear, as overlapping fields of vision from other guards and the security camera make it easy to misjudge who is looking where.

 

3) You only need to worry about the guard in the tower. He goes on a rotation where he looks N, then SW then SE. You need to set off to take the jump when he turns to look south east. If when you arrive he is already looking south east, don't jump, as he might turn around at any time. Wait for him to do a full rotation instead, so when he turns away you know you will have maximum time.

 

4) When you take the jump, lean back on the bike as you hit the slope. This will give you the right trajectory to get over the fence. Then, when you are air born, lean forward to level the bike off. This reduces the chance of you back wheel clipping the fence, or you having a bad landing and falling off (although if you've made sure the guard is looking away, you should have time to get back on and ride off.

 

5) You can then ride all the way to the comms tower without serious risk of being spotted - route is shown in the video a 2x speed.

 

Once you've used the security compound you can either finish up or carry on with scoping. From an efficiency point of view, if you want to do the Elite Challenge, I'd say it's then worth riding down to the main docks to check you have enough loot there to fill your bag(s) - sometimes there won't be enough (assuming you're not going solo and weren't lucky enough to get two paintings in the office). My back up is to go via the airfield and use a disguise, as there is always plenty of loot there (but will maybe add 2 minutes on to your finale time). If you're not bothered about the Elite, or have finished, you can simply get caught on purpose as a way of fast travelling back to the airfield, and you're done.

 

Hope this helps people, certainly, mastering this jump was a game changer for me.

 

 

Edited January 1, 2021 by Jimbatron

[RyuNova]

This should be pinned because it's so useful. The Gather Intel Prep becomes much less tedious once you know this.

[Tomtomsengermany]

Another option

 

 

[Nog]

Honestly? When you need a 5 step tutorial  + video to manage this jump this heist is too challenging for you.

[Jimbatron]

18 hours ago, RyuNova said:

This should be pinned because it's so useful. The Gather Intel Prep becomes much less tedious once you know this.

 

Yes this was my thought exactly. I've just finished getting Elite by all the different vehicles to get the travel plans awards, and this was the single most important time saving method.

 

17 hours ago, Tomtomsengermany said:

Another option

 

 

 

Yes this is an equally valid way of getting through. There are pros and cons to each. This way you have to be more careful with the guards on the ground and look out for patrol cars, but you don't have the risk of crashing during the jump. With the jump you only have to worry about the guard in the tower. Different players may have a preference for one method or the other, I think the important thing is to pick one way and master it. Like I say, get it wrong, you're sent back to the airport, which costs time, and you lose the bike. There is another by the North drop point as well I think, so that gives you a second opportunity, but still it'll be a time sink.

 

17 hours ago, Nog said:

Honestly? When you need a 5 step tutorial  + video to manage this jump this heist is too challenging for you.

 

Poor attitude - it show you to be aloof and arrogant. I've given up on being patient with people like you, fundamentally you don't deserve it, and need your behaviour to be called out instead. I found the heist extremely easy, and it's not difficult to do the jump when you know how. Other people might not know this is even an option, nor exactly how to pull it off. This is a point of knowledge, not ability. And if you stuff it up, the bike's confiscated, and you're back at the start which wastes even more time. Knowing exactly how to do it from the get go is therefore useful. It's not only a time save it cuts out the most boring bit of the whole thing. If you're Johnny Big 8ollokcs and can do it blindfolded then good for you. Just stay happy sniffing your own backside, no one else cares how great you think you are and that everyone else is rubbish in comparison.

 

EDIT - Strike through comments retracted out of respect given ultimately the conversation took a better tone.

Edited January 2, 2021 by Jimbatron

[White Shark]

1 hour ago, Nog said:

Honestly? When you need a 5 step tutorial  + video to manage this jump this heist is too challenging for you.

It's called being helpful and thorough.

[Nog]

59 minutes ago, Jimbatron said:

Poor attitude - it show you to be aloof and arrogant. I've given up on being patient with people like you, fundamentally you don't deserve it, and need your behaviour to be called out instead. I found the heist extremely easy, and it's not difficult to do the jump when you know how. Other people might not know this is even an option, nor exactly how to pull it off. This is a point of knowledge, not ability. And if you stuff it up, the bike's confiscated, and you're back at the start which wastes even more time. Knowing exactly how to do it from the get go is therefore useful. It's not only a time save it cuts out the most boring bit of the whole thing. If you're Johnny Big 8ollokcs and can do it blindfolded then good for you. Just stay happy sniffing your own backside, no one else cares how great you think you are and that everyone else is rubbish in comparison.

Thanks for the kind words. Dont mix up things please.

 

1 minute ago, White Shark said:

It's called being helpful and thorough.

To both of you: I didn't say its not helpful. I just say if you cannot make this easy thing without a step by step instruction you will be lost in the heist which is much harder then jumping over the rocks. Are you disagreeing? 

I also didn't know this jump at first, but then I saw it in a video and after few tries you know how to do it.

How detailed does this jump need to be described??? Its easy as f.... goddammit.

So, my opinion: If you fail the jump without a step by step introduction. Dont do the heist finale cos its even more difficult than the jump.

[ambi3nt]

6 minutes ago, Nog said:

Thanks for the kind words. Dont mix up things please.

 

To both of you: I didn't say its not helpful. I just say if you cannot make this easy thing without a step by step instruction you will be lost in the heist which is much harder then jumping over the rocks. Are you disagreeing? 

I also didn't know this jump at first, but then I saw it in a video and after few tries you know how to do it.

How detailed does this jump need to be described??? Its easy as f.... goddammit.

So, my opinion: If you fail the jump without a step by step introduction. Dont do the heist finale cos its even more difficult than the jump.

Well it's ironic how you only learned about a jump in some video, instead of figuring it out yourself. I mean if you can't find basic jump like that, you shouldn't do the finale either. You see where it's going?

[Gaffa]

3 hours ago, Tomtomsengermany said:

Another option

 

 

 

Yep this is my preferred method. 

 

Driving in GTA can be quite intricate to the level where little tiny angular adjustments often end with differing results, and although it's possible to do that jump with things like the Squaddie as well, I find it to be more risky than just going that way. It seems hard to get the Winky up to speed or driving correctly (not getting snagged by bushes) to guarantee the jump every time, but at least that can fit through the gate and go that way, if needed. 

 

On a random sidenote, I wonder whether RyuNova has reacted to any post on this entire forum despite thinking this one should be pinned! 

[Nog]

It is very good to know about the jump and also to teach it anyone who doesnt know yet. I have never said that you should not do that, please read what I said.

I was just making a little fun about the very, very, very, very, very detailed step-by-step instruction about this jump that is not needed imho.

 

Just would like to make clear what I was saying:

In my personal opinion that jump is very easy to manage (to manage - not to find).

If you dont know about it, thats fine, nothing to blame here. As I said, I didnt know about this at first, too (of course...).

Its good to know it, and good to have a video and/or quick explanation. All fine.

 

Now comes the point:

You know about the jump and you have seen a video and still cant manage it. Well... then this obviously is too challenging for you. How do you want to be successfull in the finale then? Isnt the finale even more challenging than the jump??

 

 

3 hours ago, Nog said:

Honestly? When you need a 5 step tutorial  + video to manage this jump this heist is too challenging for you.

Here is what I said: "If you need a 5 step tutorial PLUS a video to manage this jump..".  And I will not change my mind.

 

Lets stop this here. But when I answer one of your questions at some point, please reconsider your opinion about my "poor attitude" or "aloof/arrogant" or "not being helpful..."

 

THANK YOU!

[Jimbatron]

41 minutes ago, Nog said:

It is very good to know about the jump and also to teach it anyone who doesnt know yet. I have never said that you should not do that, please read what I said.

I was just making a little fun about the very, very, very, very, very detailed step-by-step instruction about this jump that is not needed imho.

 

Just would like to make clear what I was saying:

In my personal opinion that jump is very easy to manage (to manage - not to find).

If you dont know about it, thats fine, nothing to blame here. As I said, I didnt know about this at first, too (of course...).

Its good to know it, and good to have a video and/or quick explanation. All fine.

 

Now comes the point:

You know about the jump and you have seen a video and still cant manage it. Well... then this obviously is too challenging for you. How do you want to be successfull in the finale then? Isnt the finale even more challenging than the jump??

 

 

Here is what I said: "If you need a 5 step tutorial PLUS a video to manage this jump..".  And I will not change my mind.

 

Lets stop this here. But when I answer one of your questions at some point, please reconsider your opinion about my "poor attitude" or "aloof/arrogant" or "not being helpful..."

 

THANK YOU!

 

I'm sure you would like to stop it there: but I think it should be pointed out your somewhat flimsy attempt to reframe what you were saying is basically an obfuscation of your intention.

 

Your intention was to be condescending and dismissive. You added nothing constructive here. If you see something you don't think is worthwhile in future, then simply say nothing and move on.

[ChiroVette]

Ah this is GREAT! Even better than the moving .gif someone posted. I love how @Jimbatron explains it in his first post AND his video is slow, takes it's time, uses the pause map, and gives awesome instructions. Awesome job, Jimbatron! I wish more Youtubers did this with their instructional videos. So many people just gloss through it, never bother to slow down on their pause map when doing collectibles, and just fly right through it at warp speed! I am subscribing to your channel!

[ChiroVette]

3 hours ago, White Shark said:

It's called being helpful and thorough.

 

4 hours ago, Jimbatron said:

Poor attitude - it show you to be aloof and arrogant. I've given up on being patient with people like you, fundamentally you don't deserve it, and need your behaviour to be called out instead. I found the heist extremely easy, and it's not difficult to do the jump when you know how. Other people might not know this is even an option, nor exactly how to pull it off. This is a point of knowledge, not ability. And if you stuff it up, the bike's confiscated, and you're back at the start which wastes even more time. Knowing exactly how to do it from the get go is therefore useful. It's not only a time save it cuts out the most boring bit of the whole thing. If you're Johnny Big 8ollokcs and can do it blindfolded then good for you. Just stay happy sniffing your own backside, no one else cares how great you think you are and that everyone else is rubbish in comparison.

 

I agree with both of you. I'm surprised, because @Nog usually seems like a pretty good guy. But you two are right for at least two reasons:

 

First, everyone is new at this at some point. I promise you that for every ONE person out there like you, @Nog, who don't need the help, there are a thousand people who do. Moreover, I don't need his video either. I have a completely different ritual when I scope. I gather up scopes on whatever happens to be in the airfield, and if it isn't there (secondary loot, tools, whatever) then I don't bother with it. All I want are two things from my scoping away from the arifield: Cutting Powder & the water tower and the communication tower to scope the main compound.  So I have done it enough times that I memorized the 3 spawn locations of the cutting powder, the first one right near the water tower. So its easier for me to just drive off a low cliff into the water south of the airstrip, then swim for like a minute to the Main Dock. From there, I have memorized paths with almost no guards to the 1st cutting powder location, then from there to the water tower, then from there to the Comm Tower. If the CP isn't in that first location, just a very short distance north of the water tower, then I have an easy, guard-less path to the other 2 cutting powders, then an easy, empty path to the comm tower. From there, I jump and parachute to the water tower easily, then get caught or just jump off the tower and die once I have poisoned the water.

 

Now why did I post all this? To make a point. I wish that I had seen this video in the few days following the update. I kept getting caught over and over again and it was really annoying and no fun. Yes, I learned how to sneak around. Probably not as fast as you did nor as well as you can now. But my point is that I didn't come in here all pompous and douchy, for no other purpose but to show off. Which is exactly what you did when you s**t all over a guy who can probably help thousands of people who are struggling with this. Even if you and I are not.

 

tl;dr - You think anyone cares that you don't need this video to infiltrate the main areas? Exactly nobody gives a crap that I don't need it to scope. You know what people do care about? The work of folks like @Jimbatron who take their time and energy to help their fellow players.

Edited January 1, 2021 by ChiroVette

[Jimbatron]

51 minutes ago, ChiroVette said:

 

 

I agree with both of you. I'm surprised, because @Nog usually seems like a pretty good guy. But you two are right for at least two reasons:

 

First, everyone is new at this at some point. I promise you that for every ONE person out there like you, @Nog, who don't need the help, there are a thousand people who do. Moreover, I don't need his video either. I have a completely different ritual when I scope. I gather up scopes on whatever happens to be in the airfield, and if it isn't there (secondary loot, tools, whatever) then I don't bother with it. All I want are two things from my scoping away from the arifield: Cutting Powder & the water tower and the communication tower to scope the main compound.  So I have done it enough times that I memorized the 3 spawn locations of the cutting powder, the first one right near the water tower. So its easier for me to just drive off a low cliff into the water south of the airstrip, then swim for like a minute to the Main Dock. From there, I have memorized paths with almost no guards to the 1st cutting powder location, then from there to the water tower, then from there to the Comm Tower. If the CP isn't in that first location, just a very short distance north of the water tower, then I have an easy, guard-less path to the other 2 cutting powders, then an easy, empty path to the comm tower. From there, I jump and parachute to the water tower easily, then get caught or just jump off the tower and die once I have poisoned the water.

 

Now why did I post all this? To make a point. I wish that I had seen this video in the few days following the update. I kept getting caught over and over again and it was really annoying and no fun. Yes, I learned how to sneak around. Probably not as fast as you did nor as well as you can now. But my point is that I didn't come in here all pompous and douchy, for no other purpose but to show off. Which is exactly what you did when you s**t all over a guy who can probably help thousands of people who are struggling with this. Even if you and I are not.

 

tl;dr - You think anyone cares that you don't need this video to infiltrate the main areas? Exactly nobody gives a crap that I don't need it to scope. You know what people do care about? The work of folks like @Jimbatron who take their time and energy to help their fellow players.

 

Thanks for your comments. Slight digression, I'm sure @Nog is normally a good guy, on this occasion however I felt his comments were out of order and unnecessary. Most of us can be like that some times (myself included on occasion), for better for worse I'm making a point of calling these things out rather than let them slide.

Edited January 1, 2021 by Jimbatron

[Nog]

Ok, well... if 9 out of 10 are having a different opinion then probably the 1 will be very lonesome at some point. I am sorry then, I have clearly misjudged this whole thing. It was not my intention being disrepectful towards anyone.

It is wrong to value anyone on something that seems to be easy for one (which this jump is for me), but might be challenging for others. There will be point where its other way around and I will also be happy to find help then.

Apologies from my side!
 

Happy new year everyone!

[Giantsgiants]

The jump never worked out for me so I just ride the bike through the gate. Both methods require precise timing anyway so I just opt for the one that's easier for me and I have had more success with.

[Vallence]

8 hours ago, Jimbatron said:

Like I say, get it wrong, you're sent back to the airport, which costs time, and you lose the bike. There is another by the North drop point as well I think, so that gives you a second opportunity, but still it'll be a time sink.

There's also a bike on the dirt track by the Power Station, which is fairly close to where you get sent back to.

[Nog]

Youtube video

I have tried this and it actually works!!

Just call your assistant right before the cutscene between LS and Cayo Perico (on the way to cayo perico) and you can call the CEO helicopter on the airstrip in on Cayo Perico.

While the helicopter is loading you can check the hanger for loot.

 

Then just set way point close to the radio tower and jump off (beware of the one guard who is sometimes there)

 

4 hours ago, ChiroVette said:

 

Can this still be done on your first scoping for a new heist?

YES!

 

Edited January 2, 2021 by Nog
FAQ ;-)

[BeatsDown]

 

[SummerFreeze]

5 hours ago, Giantsgiants said:

The jump never worked out for me so I just ride the bike through the gate. Both methods require precise timing anyway so I just opt for the one that's easier for me and I have had more success with.

If you prefer going through the gate, that's cool, but the jump does not require precise timing. You only need to check that the vision cone of the guard in the tower isn't directed towards the ramp.

 

This is also the only nitpick I have with the instruction video; it's not necessary to observe the guard's movement in the tower. Just check for the vision cone on the mini map, and if it isn't towards the ramp, you can go.

 

So when I do the jump I drive towards the ramp at speed even before the guard pops up on the mini map, and only brake if his vision cone shows he is looking at the ramp. So there is no need to stop and observe his movement -- you only need to stop if his vision obstructs the ramp, and wait for like 5 seconds until he looks another way. Most of the time you do not need to wait, so you can drive straight from the airfield to the radio tower without stopping.

  

10 hours ago, Nog said:

In my personal opinion that jump is very easy to manage (to manage - not to find).

In my personal experience, it's easy to find as well.

 

Actually I just checked the Tips&Tricks thread and Gridl0k already posted it a day before I did. (I guess it helps to read threads before posting.)

Edited January 2, 2021 by SummerFreeze

[ChiroVette]

3 hours ago, Nog said:

Youtube video

I have tried this and it actually works!!

Just call your assistant right before the cutscene between LS and Cayo Perico (on the way to cayo perico) and you can call the CEO helicopter on the airstrip in on Cayo Perico.

While the helicopter is loading you can check the hanger for loot.

 

Then just set way point close to the radio tower and jump off (beware of the one guard who is sometimes there)

 

 

 

This sounds great, but I never get sent to LSIA. I only scope once per heist, so the game usually sends me north on the map to steal the plane and fly it to the very south of the map. Can this still be done on your first scoping for a new heist? Or do you have to come back to the island after abandoning your initial scope?

[Razgriz67]

 

Jumping is not the only method to get past. that gate works just as fine

[Nog]

3 hours ago, ChiroVette said:

Can this still be done on your first scoping for a new heist?

Yes!

Forgot to mention: This also works on the initial scope mission. Just call assistant before cutscene starts.

[Jimbatron]

6 hours ago, Nog said:

Youtube video

I have tried this and it actually works!!

Just call your assistant right before the cutscene between LS and Cayo Perico (on the way to cayo perico) and you can call the CEO helicopter on the airstrip in on Cayo Perico.

While the helicopter is loading you can check the hanger for loot.

 

Then just set way point close to the radio tower and jump off (beware of the one guard who is sometimes there)

 

 

 

That's cool, thanks for sharing I will try that on my next run. I have a nasty suspicion that's going to get patched out with R*'s next update/hotfix, but this is definitely worth making hay with while the sun shines.

[Jimbatron]

3 hours ago, SummerFreeze said:

 

 

This is also the only nitpick I have with the instruction video; it's not necessary to observe the guard's movement in the tower. Just check for the vision cone on the mini map, and if it isn't towards the ramp, you can go.

 

 

 

I get what you are saying here because there is no reason in principle why the mini-map can't be used, but I found it harder to see with the guards on the ground and the camera. Perhaps I'm just going blind in my old age, but I think it's going to vary by individual - things like how far you sit from your screen. I think it's sometimes easy to forget the big map in the main menu is there as an option to check hostile positions, and it definitely helped me.

 

I would say for anyone planning on driving through the gate it is also worth a check on the big map to see if any jeeps are coming. I'm not sure, but do you only get two of these if you do it on hard? I can't remember for certain what it's like on normal as I always wait for Pavel's message and restart the heist immediately to put it on hard for the cash boost, but my impression was there were fewer patrols on normal.

[SummerFreeze]

9 minutes ago, Jimbatron said:

I get what you are saying here because there is no reason in principle why the mini-map can't be used, but I found it harder to see with the guards on the ground and the camera. Perhaps I'm just going blind in my old age, but I think it's going to vary by individual - things like how far you sit from your screen. I think it's sometimes easy to forget the big map in the main menu is there as an option to check hostile positions, and it definitely helped me.

 

I would say for anyone planning on driving through the gate it is also worth a check on the big map to see if any jeeps are coming. I'm not sure, but do you only get two of these if you do it on hard? I can't remember for certain what it's like on normal as I always wait for Pavel's message and restart the heist immediately to put it on hard for the cash boost, but my impression was there were fewer patrols on normal.

Don't get me wrong; your video is great for explaining how to do the jump.

 

It's just that in my case, after having done it so many times, the mini map is all I check for whether the jump is "clear".

 

Like I said, I'm driving towards the ramp, and once the tower guard's blip pops up on the mini map I check where his vision cone is directed. If it is towards the ramp, I hit the brakes, and if not I just keep going. So it's just one check for me and I don't need to stop driving unless the guard looks at the ramp.

[ambi3nt]

When you freshly start scope out mission and approach that guard post first time, tower guard will always be looking away. And tbh it's better to jump from a bigger  rock that is a bit closer, go full speed, flip bike upside down during jump to gain more horizontal pull to fly past that small pit ahead and if there are no patrol cars blocking you off, you can proceed to comms tower at full speed.

[Gridl0k]

The guards always spawn at the same point in their routine so yeah, fortune favours the bold, have an approach ready to go in your head and just floor it.

[ChiroVette]

7 hours ago, Nog said:

Yes!

Forgot to mention: This also works on the initial scope mission. Just call assistant before cutscene starts.

 

Ha! I will definitely try this my next scope mission. I have a heist all ready to go, and when I do it and start again, I will give this a shot. Can you clarify, though? Because when I start an initial scope mission, while the Prep and Finale tabs are locked, there is no cut scene. A yellow dot just magically appears on my map. Unless you're talking about right before you fly the plane into the southernmost part of the LS where the checkpoint to the island is?

[Nog]

1 minute ago, ChiroVette said:

Unless you're talking about right before you fly the plane into the southernmost part of the LS where the checkpoint to the island is?

Yes!

One thing: I call her when I am above the harbor. I don't know what happens if you call too soon and leave the box open for a while.